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along with analysts chuck rosenberg and lisa rubin. what can we expect based on arguments put forward in advance by both sides? reporter: to set the scene, because donald trump is here in person the security has really been ramped up. there s a much greater police presence. in terms of in the courtroom, this is a long shot for donald trump, this idea that a former president can t be prosecuted for any acts whited while serving in offense, it s belied by the fact that gerald ford pardoned richard nixon. this three-judge panel is an all-female panel with two judges appointed by president biden and one appointed by former president george h.w. bush. in addition to arguing immunity, trump lawyers are also making the argument that this produce is improper under double jeopardy. ken, i need to interrupt you because the hearing is starting. let s listen in right now. our jurisdiction was challenged by an amicus. you are not questioning our collateral order jurisdiction? ....

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On a collateral order theory is possible. there are other circuits, i think 1st, 2nd and 10th that keep following that line of thinking and it requires an explicit constitutional or statutory language that says you cannot be tried. so, two responses. one, i think in cases like sas cisneros, this court has spoken. i think the only one there is the 1st circuit discussion in joseph, a court was raising an immunity defense to a criminal prosecution. as this court acknowledged this both rostenkowski and durenburger, didn t acknowledge that, but the court there talked about claiborne and hastings, which are 9th circuit and 11th circuit cases. i think judge easterbrook in his shock opinion noted when it deals with a personal immunity like that, it is different than the kind of transactional immunities that were considered in the 10th and 2nd circuit ....

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