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About these kind of stalin era tactics that we re hearing about, that nbc has not yet been able to confirm. the kidnapping of ukrainians in the city of mariupol and then the shipping of these ukrainians, sending of these ukrainians to russian areas, to russian cities, amidst all of the uncertainty and fear that exists in your war-torn country, what do you make of it? we heard about these tactics at 7 march when the first idea appeared in russian media that russia is able to provide humanitarian corridors, but the corridors have to lead to russia itself. and then we published an open statement which was supported by dozens of human rights organizations of ukraine and we described that it s very dangerous for civilians to be transferred to russia. take nothing to account especially the fact that russia ....
And it was only on 17 march that they finally got that advice. and they met to discuss it in a committee room in parliament, and were so disturbed by it, they immediately wrote to the prime minister, saying, we feel deeply uncomfortable about this nomination, about evgeny s nomination. and would you reconsider, or would you consider an alternative ? which they proposed. and he did indeed end up becoming a peer. that s right. so two days after that vetting report was discussed, evgeny met with boris johnson at downing street, and a few days after that, borisjohnson, the long and short of it, pushed his name through. so evgeny took his seat later that year. well, lionel barber, i mean, let me bring you in here just for your response to all of that, but also, you know, you would have watched the entrance ....