and yet, it really was a day of love in the city of brotherly love. >> and sisterly affection. >> and sisterly affection. >> many women out there, too. can i just say that the city really deserved an "a" on this one. i mean, we didn't have the warning, "oh, no! oh, no! isis, al-qaeda, somebody's gonna come and terrorize it!" none of that came up. we actually had peace and harmony for the most part. i mean, young people -- i mean, it was truly a multi-generational, multi-love event. and, yes, the national media had its fun with us after the first night, sunday night, and you had a few knucklebucks that acted really crazy, but for the most part, this was so smooth. i mean, when you talk to people from end to end, whether you're in south philly all the way to the art museum, it was a smooth event, and people walked away, said, "this felt good. i feel good about being a philadelphian." >> you know, larry, i feel as though, in this country in the last year, the story has been about how we didn't know each other and we're so divided, yet i was out along the parade route at broad and hartranft, and people had come from everywhere. they couldn't have been nicer to each other, they couldn't have been more bonded, kids, everything out there -- i mean, i think people are getting the story wrong on who we really are underneath it all. >> i think that's exactly right. what was really heartening about this and the challenge now for the city is to take this feeling and advance it in our everyday civic life, right? because what you saw at that parade was a cross-section of philadelphians. you saw the most diverse crowd -- young, old, black, white -- all with common purpose and a sense of joy together. and you're absolutely right. the city deserves tremendous credit. i don't buy the 700,000 number. >> i think -- yeah. >> that's from some survey in england. they're still upset about the revolution. [ laughter ] i think there was more. i was at the phillies parade in '08. this was more than that. >> it dwarfed the phillies parade. it probably even dwarfed -- no offense, but i think it dwarfed the pope. >> it didn't dwarf the pope, okay? >> not necessarily in viewers -- >> says our catholic boy here. >> ...people there, people there. i mean, they weren't scared away -- that's the difference. >> yeah. well, you know what? i was a little concerned, too, when first they were saying, "we're not gonna inspect bags," and all this other sort of thing, 'cause i was concerned -- you know, i love the way it worked out, but you were concerned that some knucklehead would try something. the diversity of the crowd was amazing. i mean, and i know people who were down there with their kids -- you know, 4-year-olds, and 5 years old, and 90-year-old people as well, and black and white and hispanic and you name it. and that was a great kind of feeling. so, it really kind of felt like that xoxo campaign for, you know, the place that loves you back, about the city. i think the city showed really well. i mean, you see some of the new york media and they're talking about that speech and, you know -- kelce's speech and everything, but at the same time, it gives the city character, this kind of -- >> absolutely. >> you know, it's a fun place to be, and i think it's gonna do a lot for tourism as well, and the brand image. >> it also builds on everything else that we've been doing. i mean, when we talked about the pope, we talked about the nfl draft. we're talking about big events. for years, philadelphia's sort of had the chip and say, "well, it's a second-class city." >> or second-choice, third-choice city to have your event. >> exactly. we're a global city. i mean, clearly, these types of events show that not only can we host them, we can do them well and that people will come out and support them and behave. and i actually -- honestly, i had no doubt about this. this town loves the philadelphia eagles for everything that they represent, and particularly this team and the members of this team. >> well, let's talk about that, because, you know, in the time that i've been here, we've seen the team go through a number of iterations. there have been some players that have seemed to really be all about themselves who have gotten in a lot of trouble -- where they had a more prickly persona. and now we have a team where you can go through the list -- the contributions, the charities, the philanthropy. this is a good group of guys. would it have been different, let's say, if it was the team with shady -- you know, lesean mccoy -- i mean lesean jackson and -- desean jackson. >> those guys weren't as successful as this team, and i think it's about grit. you know -- i mean, they're just tough, i mean, and when one goes down, the other one comes back up, and people filling in different roles, and things like this. >> but they're also humble. you know, they also tell a lot of people, "be good." >> grit, creativity, character, and fun, too. i mean, and there's a certain -- i mean, where have you seen... it's what happens in that locker room that's really what determines what happens on the field... >> absolutely. >> ...in those moments of amazing crisis, which this team faced. and you just saw it come through. they're really hitting it hard. >> that's exactly right. the eagles -- and howie roseman deserves a tremendous amount of credit. i've never seen a general manager where every decision they make, like, turns out in the affirmative. but they put this team together with an eye toward character. character matters. and they eschewed what we would think are more talented players for grittier -- i think resilience is a key component of that locker room. and the other thing -- look, everyone's gonna talk about the jason kelce speech, and it was hilarious and fun, but for me, what's new about the story is the earnestness and humility of, like, a nick foles, a carson wentz. that's not the typical philadelphia story, right? that sort of spirit -- this is a spiritual team. >> even when they're wearing a full fur coat. >> i mean, but that's the fun part. it put a smile on your face. but i did -- no matter what your religious background or even if you don't have one, when, after the game, they prayed, i mean, that was a moment of -- i found that really very -- >> it's cohesion. and it's cohesion. again, this team is probably more reflective of this city than a lot of teams in a lot of years. we've always had the superstar, kind of clownish kind of personality. who can forget "for who? for what?" with ricky watters. i mean, it goes down in lore. but here's a team that paid homage to those who came before them. >> yes, remembering the greats. >> absolutely. and not just in their sport. i mean, anytime chris long has an allen iverson jersey on -- >> and he said, "this win is for you." >> exactly. i mean, across the board -- i mean, you saw dawn staley watching the super bowl and how she screamed. when you saw kobe bryant watching the super bowl and how he was in -- >> will smith was hilarious. >> you know, everyone kind of came back and touched to this. >> hats off to jeff lurie, too. when he first came to town and he spoke to people about investing in the team, people were really skeptical. "this is the son of a wealthy guy. what has he really done? what's he know about philadelphia?" and, you know, he went through the beginning, kind of transition errors, but it's really, 20 years into it now -- 24 years into it -- he's created something magnificent. >> after that grinding it out. he waited. >> oh, my gosh, yeah. >> and we should say that... >> what a great investment, too. >> ...they put together the most socially progressive organization in professional sports. people don't know this, but they were ahead of the curve in terms of environmental standards for their stadium -- so much so that when they play an away game and they're not convinced that the opposing stadium has the -- does recycling to their standards, they actually load the team plane up with their own trash to bring it back to philadelphia. >> fun fact you didn't know. >> they also have, through -- don smolenski and anne gordon and julie hirshey have redone... other teams, you know, write checks to the community, to community groups. they do that, still, but they mentor non-profits. they open their doors and let non-profits who qualify use their social-media expertise and so forth. it's this "really, we're all in this together" ethic, which the team embodies. >> let's talk about this the way it was talked about on the national stage. everybody focused on monday night. and, of course, there were people bringing down canopies and raiding gas stations and knocking out store windows. meanwhile, in amherst, you know, 2,000 people rioted, 6 got arrested, 12 were injured. nobody talked about that. you get to the point where you say, "this is a little unfair. any big event, there are going to be things that happen." but people almost look for it in philadelphia in a way that may not be fair. >> well, it plays to a -- you know, i mean, if you're in chicago and you're reporting about philadelphia, you want to kind of talk about that aspect of it, so you find it, and even though the facts aren't there. you know, i mean, it was disappointing to drive by macy's the next day and see the broken window. at the same time, of all the places that there were windows around town, i mean, there was just a handful that happened. so, i think the city's done so much in the last 20-some years of shedding that old image, that inferiority, that second class in so many different ways. talk about the eagles -- one low point for me for the eagles -- i'm sure you appreciate this, too, here -- was earlier in the season when they were banning people from the box -- some of the journalists. i mean, that's not to the -- i mean, it's not to their strength, that's not really what it's about, and that's -- luckily, they got over that period. >> and, you know, the nfl has had a difficult year overall, wherever you stood with the protests and, you know, free speech versus what have you. but when you looked at this, the reason why people can still rally -- even people who protested throughout the year, and i talked to several of them. they said, "you know, it's the embodiment of the team, it's the embodiment of contributing to the community that this team has that you're not seeing across the nfl." and that's why, they said, this was something that we can celebrate all together. didn't matter your political stripe. >> because the team did speak out on a number of issues. it wasn't just, "well, we're just here to play football." >> this was the most "woke" team in the nfl. >> but let's talk about this, because the police are getting a lot of kudos for the way that they've handled it, but there were some naysayers who said, "okay, when it's a largely white crowd, it's just people being boisterous and rowdy, but if this had been black lives matter, or when there's a black lives matter event, it's a lot more frosty, a lot more tense." where's this kind of, "okay, we're just --" where's the attitude? where's the similar attitude? though the police would argue, "we do show up, we do try to be respectful, we do just focus on everybody's safety." do people have a point that there's a difference in the attitude in how the two different sorts of groups are viewed? >> i think it's the perception. and part of the perception into the attitudes -- not even just so much the police officers but those who are around the police officers or speaking on one issue to the other, for some reason, it's acceptable for the "boys will be boys." i mean, look at state college. they went out and acted crazy there. "oh, it's okay." it's not okay. it's not okay in any situation. but if you do not hold people accountable in one situation, then how do you say, "i'm protesting for my civil rights," and "oh, that's horrible"? it gets down to cultural perception of what it is, and if you have a cultural perception that, "oh, you think the police are bad and pigs, and you're one of those people," then you're gonna stick with that mind-set regardless, and that's unfortunate. >> you know, i introduced malcolm jenkins, who writes a column for us at the citizen on criminal-justice reform to mike chitwood, the superintendent of upper darby police, decorated philly cop. and chitwood makes -- and they just did -- if you get a chance to watch it -- a great video on nfl.com. and chitwood makes the point that, "we police have to do a better job talking to people." and he's instituted this race training among his police officers that's far and away beyond the training about diversity that usually occurs in police forces around the nation. and so, there's another case where a football player is bridging a divide. malcolm jenkins isn't just protesting, he's actually going to meet with police... >> saying, "how do we fix this?" >> ...and say, "how do we fix this?" >> though it is a little surprising in philadelphia, because you do have a lot of leadership that is black and brown, a lot of cops that are black and brown. so it still kind of raises the question of why do they feel they continue to have this sort of friction with a police force that might be a little bit more aware or cognizant than in another city. >> i think anytime you have, you know... first of all, i think the perception is largely inaccurate. i don't think the police really -- number two is, i think anytime you have a political matter behind you, there's gonna be a certain kind -- whether it be right, left, you name it, i think, so that's a different dynamic. i think one of the great things was to see those photos and the video of african-american cops, white cops laughing with the fans of all kinds. i mean, that was a diverse crowd. >> they were really -- the cops were part of it. they were getting the crowd amped up. >> and they -- their brand of attributes went way up yesterday, and i think it was a great day for the police. it really -- you saw the side that, frankly, is the real side of it, which is these are guys just trying to do their job. but it came through. >> all right, we just have a few minutes in this block left. let's talk a little bit -- tom wolf came out, mainly started with the eagles and how excited he was, didn't give a budget, short speech -- 20 minutes. he did ask for more money, a billion dollars, but largely seems to think that he will just have revenue projections to protect him. and marcellus shale, which is back after three tries of it not working. did it make any sense, when everybody's just thinking about trying to take his job, to bring up marcellus shale again? >> i -- i guess it's worth throwing it out there again. it's a non-starter, i think, with the legislature. i'm struck by just how much he is the incredibly shrinking governor. when you look at his first budget address and how lofty it was and how kind of ridiculous it was in terms of liberal policies, and now what does he stand for? i don't know what he actually runs on. what accomplishment does he run on? >> "i'm not that guy." >> it's a very slim résumé. "i'm not that guy." >> yeah. i think he has -- i think his first two years... when you get elected as a governor, which is fantastic, but you have to remember -- you're elected governor, somebody else was elected state representative. they represent their district, too, so it wasn't like you're elected king and they're your vassals. i mean, they have their own... and for the first two years, he really kind of foolishly just battled over things that weren't gonna happen. i think he's, you know -- i think he wants to get re-elected. i think he's got a great chance of getting re-elected, in fact -- >> but is it smart that people just see him going out and talking about things people can agree on -- opioid crisis, let's have better schools? they don't see him being big on the stage and battling back and forth. >> no, i think this is actually -- i think this is in the great tradition of kind of a fairly moderate state, like pennsylvania is, where people are finding we're not alabama, you know, kind of a thing. and i think people are trying to find ways to get things done, and they want leaders who can get things done. now, i will -- i don't know why we have to have a 3% increase in taxes again and all the ways -- you know, given what they're doing, some big thinking would be great. >> really quickly, the republicans had a straw poll. a couple of interesting factoids. the people with the most money -- that would be scott wagner and paul mango -- they've given themselves a lot of money. they've got over $5 million in the bank, but the straw poll said it's about turzai and wagner. if you're mango, do you just say, "forget it, i'm getting out"? or, like, who's really -- and then you see a picture of laura ellsworth, a lawyer, who also is not really hitting the boards. who are really the frontrunners here? is it wagner's to walk away with, or it's kind of jump ball? >> but, you know, it's really interesting -- in the legislature, both turzai and wagner, they have, let's say, distinct personalities, and so if they go out... i think the gop has a real challenge right now. do they want to come out with a really stringent brand, which would be either turzai or wagner, or do they want to come out with something a little different and perhaps palatable in this purple state, which would be represented by the others? >> ...when you look at the money and then you look at the straw poll. >> it's confusing. >> you're our republican. >> first of all, i also don't think the party will endorse anyone, because i just don't think they know, really, where it's gonna be, and nobody wants to endorse one person and somebody else wins. wagner's a character -- you know, and some would say a kook. and i just don't know whether or not this is a good year for that. >> i've been really impressed with ellsworth. and i feel like -- >> they're, like, giving me the wrap, so it sounds like we'll have to see. >> this might be a woman's time. >> okay. we'll see what happens. we'll be right back with more "inside story." >> 6abc's "inside story" is presented by temple university. ♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "inside story." i'm tamala edwards. so, the supreme court said, "no, that's okay. we don't want to listen to this case out of pennsylvania, this argument over the gerrymandered map." taking it back to the state supreme court, which said, "this is a problem. you need to send back a redone map." what needs to happen is supposedly the republican-held house and senate needs to come up with something, get wolf's sign-off, and send that to this court. and if they don't, the court says, "then fine, we'll have to draw it." republican leaders have come back with something interesting. this is all supposed to be done by next thursday. they said, "well, maybe we don't have to actually pass something. maybe we can just submit something, the draft of something, and then later have people come back and finalize it." is this gonna fly with the court -- that as long as you submit something, it's the same as passing something? >> well, it starts with the fact that, unfortunately, in pennsylvania, we elect our supreme court. many states don't do that. they're appointed. and they're -- you know, go through a process, and this is an esteemed man or woman, and they're gonna be -- we have an elected political -- so it's inherently political on the other side, and the democrats control the supreme court. so, i don't think that's gonna float. look, redistricting -- you know, some call it gerrymandering, others call it whatever -- it's intensely political. and, i mean, that's what it's going to be. and you could make the case that the one district, the meehan district, looks a little crazy in terms of it, but where you draw that line, a block or two this way could make the difference between this person winning or that person winning. so, it starts -- and it has been for 200-and-some years an intensely political process. >> but it sounds like they have to do it. they're not even trying to appeal anymore. they know this has to happen. >> if the don't, the court will write the map. >> but it has been more political, even more intense -- it's just like anything else, when we started figuring out algorithms, and people got a little more wicked and said, "oh, well, i can really fix it this way." when you talk to the average pennsylvanian -- or anyone across the country -- and say, "well, if you have this many registered voters and they all vote, then why is it that the house delegation or, you know, the pennsylvania delegation looks this way?" most people cannot understand why we have a majority republican delegation in pennsylvania when you have a majority of democrats that are registered to vote in pennsylvania. and i have to say, for the legal team that tried this court -- i mean tried this case and went to the supreme court, they were really smart because they focused on the state constitution, and so that kept the feds out of this. it was a really smart strategy. so, moving along, yes, the republicans are looking at this saying, "yes, we have to do something about it." they just got caught this time, and so you have to take care of it. >> larry, what's the chance we get a map that looks like a bunch of squares or triangles or circles or something that makes sense -- it just is what it is? >> if politics is out of it, i think pretty good. i talked to dave daley, who's the author of "rat-blanked," the definitive book on this. and dave actually said that it's good that there's a short time table, because you don't want politics interceding. the state constitution says that these districts should be aligned, basically, in accord with county lines. so, there could be a delaware county seat, there can be a montgomery county seat. now, some of those don't have enough voters, so you have to figure out, but there is technology -- the philadelphia-based company azavea has it -- where you can just draw up these lines in an instant. >> but it shouldn't look like goofy kicking donald duck. >> but it is intensely political on the other side, too... >> yeah, absolutely. >> ...where democratic incumbents saying, "you know what, okay, i want to keep --" "well, why don't we give you lower murray because that's pretty democrat now." >> it's horse trading, absolutely, but when it gets down to it, it has to be about representation. so, again, kudos to those citizens that said, "i'm signing up for this, and yes, i'm suing because i want my vote to count." and for too long, it has not counted. >> do you think there's a chance they come up with something and say, "look, it's gonna be back and forth" -- to your point -- "either way. let's just go to a company like this and agree to something." >> well, you know, right out of college -- i graduated from college in 1979 -- i worked for the republican national committee. and back then, redistricting was coming up in the '80 census, and it was all about using computers the size of this room, and it was like, "wow, they're gonna use computer technology to do it." so, it has gotten -- that size computer could be on your phone, probably, now. i think the issue is -- if i was in the legislature, i'd say, "let's draw districts that look pretty reasonable but we think are more of an advantage to us as a republican, and let's see if we can get this through." >> okay. >> and the optics will be -- when you look at the map, "that looks reasonable." >> bob brady says he's out of the 1st district. we'll see whether or not the district survives. it feels as though everybody is now running for this. we have two new names that have come up, people wanting to get into it. we've got joanna mcclinton, who is a state rep, and we've got kevin johnson, who's a known minister. and they're joining nina ahmad, they're joining michele lawrence, willie singletary, lindy li, and richie lazer, the deputy mayor, supposedly also thinking about getting in. do all of these people stick around through may, or does it start to get weeded out? >> i think a couple will drop out just because it takes some money to be really credible, and people are gonna say, "hey, you know what, for the good of the party and for your own personal future, why don't you drop out." i think joanna mcclinton -- la salle grad, villanova law, african-american, state rep, worked for tony williams. i think, in a crowded field, she has a lot of advantages. >> and female. >> and female -- that's right. >> let's not forget that, with the demographics. >> is it surprising that brady has said sort of favorable things about lazer rather than saying, "you know what, i'm taking my dog and going home. i'm just gonna retire. now you guys figure it out." >> well, i think he wants to have a hand in picking his successor. i think this relates to the last topic we talked about, because what the lines of that district is, is gonna be important here. there's a fight going on behind the scenes because delaware county might not -- the meehan seat -- have enough voters, so they've got to get about 150,000 voters. kenney and brady want them to take it from south philly. but, you know, the delaware county people want to have a say in that, too. so, we have to see how this shakes out in terms of what the actual districts are. >> i'm predicting a female will take this seat, and we need another female -- we need a female in our pennsylvania delegation, 'cause right now we don't have one. >> all right, well, we'll take another break and come back to our inside stories of the week. ♪ >> 6abc's "inside story" is presented by temple university. >> time now for inside stories of the week. larry, we'll start with you. >> tam, you know i'm writing a book with jon dorenbos, the longtime eagles long snapper and "america's got talent" magician. what a great move. jon had a heart condition, almost -- well, it was life-threatening. the eagles brought him back for the parade, and jeffrey lurie gave him a championship super bowl ring. what a mensch move. >> all right. let's go on over now to nia. >> the euphoria of the parade is dying down, and that means politics are heating up. but that being said, you have to really pay attention to the issues that are powering women. we're a month after the whole women's march, and now folks are really focusing on education issues. the represent pac is gonna be a force to be reckoned with, criminal-justice reform is gonna be a strength, so is fundraising. so, you see a lot of female candidates coming up. she can win is gonna be one of those powerhouses to watch out for. >> okay. and, brian, you get some fun. >> well, you know, if you had to say one thing that kind of captured the imagination of the entire region, as well as perhaps the country, it was this thought of underdog. everybody loves the underdog. and in fact, what happened is the underdog masks were unavailable. whoever was manufacturing must have thought, like, "oh, my gosh, i should have made more." but it was great to see the city embrace it and to see -- independence, an advertiser on channel 6, 6abc, created this because there was a shortage. independence came out with underdog masks, so everyone can have them and wear them, and things like this, and kids. and it was fun to see people wearing them. fox news nationally, msnbc as well -- their people holding them up. so, underdog united the entire country. >> and to our underdogs, we love you always. that's it for "inside story." aim nydia han with gray hall. coming up next on "action news" cold ground and heavy rain lead toss major flooding issues across the delaware valley, we will look at some of the hardest hit areas and when this rain will stop. plus tragedy in russia as a plane with 71 people on board, crashes to the ground. local union raises concerns after corrections officer was attacked by a new ly released inmate. those stories, accu weather forecast and more, next on "action news". "action news", delaware valley's leading news program, with gray hall, nydia han and meteorologist chris soars. good afternoon, it is sunday, february 11th i'm nydia han along with gray hall >> here is a look at some of the stories we are following for you on "action news". it is a wet, miserable day