stephanopoulos begins now. >> love him or not, donald trump dominating the race for president right now, drawing a record-hattering amount of viewers to this week's gop debate. calling trump out for his latest attack on megyn kelly. those predictions have been proven wrong before. donald trump standing by live to take on his critics after this report from jon karl. >> reporter: has trump finally gone too far? this latest, this insult directed at fox news host megyn kelly. >> you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. >> reporter: if the conservative group red state there was enough to boot the candidate. >> i don't want my daughter in the room with donald trump. >> reporter: from jeb bush. >> come on, give me break. i mean, do we want to win? mr. trump ought to apologize. >> reporter: trump later tweeted he meant to say nose. it's an hour no be uninvited. . with trump at war with both fox news and a prominent consecutive groups, one of the big questions, is he really a republican? at thursday's debate, he drew jeers after he refused to rule out an independent run and trump's liberal past is coming under fire, including support for a single-payer household. >> i didn't get a phone call from bill clinton before i jumped in the race. >> reporter: another question, will trump fade? some of his opponents are now turning up the heat. >> he's used to buying politicians. >> reporter: but trump is not turning down the bombastic that put him at the top. can in anyone step out of trump's shadow? jeb bush and scott walker did little to stand out. the two who may have helped themselves the most, marco rubio. >> and ohio governor john kasich, an experienced optimistic alternative 20 trump. >> if people who want to tune them out, they're making a mistake, now he's got his solutions, some of us have other solutions. >> reporter: whatever happens with trump if the ring, more people are paying attention to this campaign than anyone could have guessed. >> thanks to jon karl for that. donald trump joins us now on the phone. good morning, mr. trump, thank you for joining us. you're hearing the rivals stepping up the rhetoric. jeb bush said you should apologize. carly fiorina had this tweet. >> i'll start off with jeb bush on women's health issues, just destroyed his relationship with women a couple of days ago. what he said about women and women's health issues is ridiculous. i'm the exact opposite. i have always had a great relationship. two top level employees. i was one of the first people in the construction industry to put women in charge of projects. carly is having a loft fun. she doesn't discuss the fact that her stint at hewlett-packard was a disaster. >> so, no apologies to megyn kelly, you don't think you crossed the line there? >> no, not at all. look, she asked me a very nasty question, i have nothing against megyn kelly, but she asked me a very, very nasty question, but in the middle of her questioning, i brought up a statement rosie o'donnell and the entire place, the biggest combination of laughter and applause. the place went crazy. it obviously shook her up a little bit. she was angry. i made the statement blood was pouring from her eyes and blood was pouring from wherever, when i said that, i wanted to get -- >> excuse me, george, i was referring to nose, ears, a very common statement, only a deviant would think of -- some people would think that. >> i mean, it was widely seen as that. i mean -- >> no, they built that up. george, they built it up. like only literally a sick person would think that. i stopped. because i wanted to get on to the next subject, which i think was jobs which was much more important to me. i wanted to -- stop, rather than saying nose or ears, that's common. what it means is, a person is angry. she was very angry. i didn't want to finish the statement, i stopped the statement short. >> you explained what you meant to say. many people took it another way. your relationship with women. >> george, they should not have taken it another way. >> you mentioned the women you hired in your businesses. but those comments megyn talked about, they did check out, there were also from your best-seller the art of the comeback, women have one of the acts of all time. the smart ones act very feminine and needy but inside they are real killers. >> i say that with great respect. women are tremendous. i have had such an amazing relationship with women in business, they are amazing executives, they are killers, when i say that about a man, i'm very sad. when i say that about a man it's great honor. the same with women. they are phenomenal. i have many executives that are women, they're doing a phenomenal job. i pay them a tremendous amount of money, they make money from me, they make money for themselves and in many cases they truly are really talented and they can be killers. you know what that statement means. as a man they love that statement and women love it also. george, part of the problem we have in this country, we're trying to be so politically correct that nobody can say anything anymore. >> that's the country you're trying to become president of right now and there is this impression out here, you have this history of misogynist statements. how are you going to combat that impression, is it a problem for you? >> i don't think so at all, george. in the meantime, i'm doing well in the polls with women. i have thousands working for me right now, they're doing phenomenally well at top levels. i'm doing great in the polls. speaking about new hampshire, i'm leading new hampshire, i'm leading iowa, i'm leading north carolina and south carolina. i'm leading -- when i say leading, big numbers leading. the numbers just came in from georgia, i'm leading georgia by big numbers. i'm leading in every national polls. those are women voters largely and i'm doing very well with the women voters. >> some other questions from conservative, whether they'll still support you after your entire record is known, single-payer health care, back in 1999, you went on "good morning america," you also wrote in your book, calling for a wealth tax. take a look. >> this would be a one-time tax, 14.25% against people with a net worth of over $10 million or more. it would pay off in its entirety the national debt of $5.7 trillion. save $200 billion a year. >> you now say you're against that, why were you for it then? >> at the time, i was willing to do it. i was wealthy even then. that was a long time ago. i was willing to do it. it was a suggestion. i would have loved to see the national debt be paid off. we're close to $19 trillion. we're going to be over $20 trillion. we should have paid off the national debt one way or another. >> let me ask you about that. >> excuse me, you were for single-payer. you were that. you're not for it now. how can conservatives trust that you're not going to change again? >> ronald reagan was a democrat. he was on the liberal side of being a democrat and he changed. he did a really good job. i worked with him. he was a terrific guy, but he was a democrat and george, he was sort of a liberal democrat and he changed. i have evolved. i have evolved very strongly. i'm a conservative. i have tremendous support. when you do your polls, if you look at your polls, i have support from all over the place and people are actually shocked by it. i'm leading in every poll. >> you have supported democrats more recently, back in 2006, you and your son gave $77,000 to democrats, that was the election that brought nancy pelosi to power, harry reid to power, they have since passed president obama's agenda, conservatives are against that. how can conservatives trust you? >> because, george, i made a net worth, i have net worth of over $10 billion, i have been a world-class businessman, which is by the way for this country to make good trade deals. we're being ripped off by china and japan. i was a businessman, i was a business person and i supported everyone. when i needed something people were always there for me. if i supported somebody and three years later i needed something there was always there for me. by the way, george, that's what's wrong with the system, the lobbyists, the donors. >> that's exactly what i wanted to get it. a question from twitter, you've essentially confessed to bribing politicians, would you fix this or perpetuate it? >> i would support a lot of people, until two months ago, when i announced that i'm going to run for president and make our country great again, which i'm going to do, and people see it, i understand the system better, look at jeb bush, he's rais raised $100 million, i guess, by the way, people putting up that money are friends of mine. these are people that are putting it up because they want something and they're going to get something and with me i don't want anybody's money, i can actually straighten out the country without having people come, special interests come and say, no, no, no you can't do that because so and so supported you. that's one of the reasons i'm killing everyone in the polls. >> full speed ahead on the campaign. you'll be in the next debate. >> we're doing fantastically well, the numbers are incredible. you know that better than anybody because you report them. >> donald trump, thank you for your time. and we're joined by another candidate who broke through on thursday night, governor john kasich of ohio. thank you. donald trump is full speed ahead, is that a problem for your party? >> george, i don't think about things that way. what happened on thursday, i was relaxed and i was able to talk about my record. balancing the federal budget. turning ohio around. george, i don't really pay any attention to these other things, because it's most important for me to be able to tell people who i am and, you know, i'm kind of a positive guy, i want to lift people, i want everyone to be included once we create economic growth. i want everyone to share in it. look, i enjoyed myself on thursday night and i'm enjoying being on the campaign trail. >> you don't agree with lindsey graham. >> george, if i'm the nominee and you have known me for a long time, i'm going to have a positive mess sang of inclusion, economic growth, strong national defense, that's the way i have always been. i have been in politics for a long time. i have run in a lot of elections. i feel like, you know, frankly i can help to shape this party, you know i talked about economic growth not being an end to of itself and a need to reach out to people who live in the shadows. when you pay attention to what's being said in many corners of the republican party people are beginning to talk about that. i consider that to be great progress. the miracle we call america is people can be a part of it. >> you tried to express that on thursday night. lot of democrats were watching the debate and thought that the whole party was creating problems with women's voters. it included this quote from margaret hoover, republican strategist. not one candidate attempted to persuade women voters. there's a difference between pandering and vote-courting. thursday night, gop candidates did neither for women weary of the republican brand. your response? >> look, george, i can just tell you what i'm hearing. in some ways i feel like an astronaut who just splashed down out of the capsule and put me on the deck of an aircraft carrier. all of a sudden people took my picture. people are beginning to know who i am. everywhere i'm going people are slapping me on the back. to me george, i felt the republican party needed to be more for things than against things. because it's ideas, it's innovation, drives excitement and support. if you spend your time worrying about somebody else, being negative, then you're not breathing life and energy into what you're doing. >> you hope that's going to be successful for you. you're going to be the nominee, thursday night, you pledged to support the republican nominee no matter what, does that stand even if it's donald trump? >> i'm a republican. whoever the nominee i'm going to stand behind him. >> one of the hurdles is going to be the conservatives. you weren't at the red state event over the weekend. eric ericsson who organized it, he said this, i will not vote for president in 2016 if god and republicans decide to punish us with john kasich as the presidential nominee or vice presidential nominee. not-gonna-happen. do you have a problem with consecutives? >> george, george. look, i was the chief architect of balancing the federal budget, we paid the largest amount of publicly held debt. i was very involved in welfare reform. i want to reform the pentagon while building a strong defense, in ohio, we went from $8 billion in the hole to $8 billion in the black. i have cut taxes more than any standing governor, including killing the death tax, our credit has risen. but because i think that people who live in the shadows, who have been inignored, the mentally ill who we stick in prison, they don't belong in priso prison. the working poor, we want to help them. but it's like my mother used to say, it's a sin not to help people who need help. so, i think that's -- i mean, i don't know what's more consecutive than that or has a better record. i do care about people. >> it looks like you have a lot of confidence this morning. you're full speed ahead as well. governor kasich, thank you for joining us. much more to come. mike huckabee and rick perry are live. our roundtable breaks down the debate. later this week, marked the anniversary of the voters rights. >> announcer: "this week" brought to you by sap. can a business have a mind? 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>> he'll try to pivot to what his strength is, he'll start talking about jobs, economy and trade. his campaign is more professional than people realize, they're do more of the things of organizing thinking about an advertising strategy. going forward the accomplishment the other candidates, the press, kind of an triangle says trump is dead, this is the beginning of the end. the people he's bringing in, i don't hi he's going to go up after the debate. >> john, how he now established a wall? he walled off lay tinos, walled off women. >> george, new hampshire, a couple of weeks ago i did a focus group. i gave them a lot of negative information about trump to see if they knew single-payer health care. all of that stuff, and they didn't care. they were not moved off their enthusiasm for trump. they kept rationalizing him. there's a chance that 20% may be his ceiling but also his floor. hard to go past that. they may stick with him in the long haul. 20% is enough to make a loft trouble in iowa, nump heew hamp. >> is it a trap if donald trump hangs out there over the course of this summer fling? >> i also think that those other candidates should be happy that donald trump is occupying so much ses space, i think what i saw on thursday, many of them don't have foreign positions, they have a lot of sound bites, but not a lot of foreign positions, i think is beyond politics, this is about common decency and mr. trump attacked not just megyn kelly but other women, that will have a qu cumulative effect not only on trump but the republican brand. >> i thought the governors were very substantive. you're right, as this campaign unfolds there's going to be more substance to this race and republicans should feel very good about the breadth of their talent right now. >> the biggest mistake on that stage made, someone should have stood up and took him on the women's issues at the debate. this shouldn't be, oh, don't attack megyn kelly. don't attack rosie o'donnell, don't attack wendy davis in texas, this is not defend your friends, somebody should have stood up and waited two days later and say trump should have done that. >> george, i heard it that night, when he said to megyn kelly, i treated you nice. he was like, if you're not a nice girl i'm going to get mad. >> there are two scenarios. it doesn't make it misogyny. >> what i think is the real story now in the second scenario, most people think who's prepared for that moment, who's prefard for the scrutiny that will come? 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>> i have joined with senator leahy in a step before that. i don't think you need a constitutional amendment. i think there are things we can do legislatively. there has to be some kind of a halt done that deny people votings rights. for me, right now, i look at the voting rights act, before the ink was done, it was blood and effort of many people to expand voting access to americans. what we also see in this country since the 1970s is a great restriction of voters rights in this country. in 1976, about 1.7 million americans were denied their voting rights because of previous convictions. they had felony disenfranchisement. since the 1970s, we had this explosion oi drug war, incredible massive incarceration in this country, and now we have come to a point in america, in 2010, we had 5.85 million americans who have lost their voting rights because of previous convictions, they paid their debt to society, many of them nonviolent criminals, if that was a state, that would be 220th biggest station in our nation. >> we have seen the rise of the black lives matter movement over the last year as well, it's gaining some steam. bernie sanders was out in seattle where he was trying to speak, he was talked down by members of the black lives matter protest. >> we will fight for black lives no matter what it takes. >> is he getting fair treatment there and what more should be done to address this issue. >> first of all, bernie sanders is a friend and a colleague. i'm supporting hillary clinton in this election, but bernie has become someone i have tremendous respect for as an ally of mine addressing issues that affect minority communities. but the anger you saw there, from the protesters, this is a legitimate degree of frustration in this country in a nation that has yet to confront what i believe are persistent human rights issues. now, we know that we see, there are some statements that one in five black americans don't have a right to vote because of this felony disenfranchisement. we have a prison system where we see there's no difference between americans. some studies show that young whites have more of a chance of being drug dealers. yet we have an incarceration rate for drug selling that's dispor portion ately seen. it has created these. we have a nation that has states like mine that has 14%, 15% african-americans, but the prison population is over 60% black. so, when you know there's no difference, when you're after african-american -- equal justice under the law. please understand that there's going to be an understandable reaction to that in our country. the criminal justice is so overbroad right now that we as a nation is spending quarter of a trillion dollars a year, we have one out of over four prison person in this country. yeah, there's a reason to be upset. >> senator cory booker, thank you very much. next up, gop candidates mike huckabee and rick perry both here live. that other big moment in politics this week, jon stewart's last show. >> rather than saying good-bye or good night, i'm just going to say i'm going to go get a drink. it seems like this election about a person who's very eye in the polls but doesn't have a clue about how to govern, a person who has been filled with scandals and who could not lead and of course i'm talking about hillary clinton. >> a little misdirection there from governor mike huckabee, presidential candidate. governor huckabee, thank you for joining us this morning. you had a nice turn at the end of that debate thursday night. donald trump hasn't backed down at all since that debate. what do you say about him now? >> look, he is connecting with a lot of people, but i think the rest of us are doing what we're supposed to do and that's focus on getting a message out which is sometimes hard to do because all of the air in the balloon is going to donald trump right now, but that's okay, because this is a long process and it's a like a baseball season now, george, there are some early games, doesn't necessarily determine who's going be in the world series, when we go to a debate, there wasn't a lot of substance, it's hard to do a lot of substance when you're given one minute or 30 seconds. i would love to have a minute on that stage to go into details why i believe in fair tax. >> but at what point does that become a real problem for your party and do you have to stand up and do the other candidates stand up and say, enough is enough, he's not going to be our nominee, we will not support him if he is? >> i don't think that's our role, i think our role is to run for president, it's the voters' role to determine who they're going to connect to, my job is to connect to the voters, not to disconnect them from donald trump, he's going to give his message. i'm going to give mine. in time, we'll see who speaks to the sense of option and opportunity for the american people inspect in the long term, when i get a chance to talk with people how do we bring wages up, 90% of people in this country, wages have been flat for 30 years. there's some real hurt out there. people are angry and donald trump is touching that. now people are going to start to say, over the coming months, how do we fix this? we have thought through quite a bit. we have been through this process of not only running but governing. that's when the race is going to get more serious. >> one of the issues that candidates agreed with was defunding planned parenthood. you went further on thursday night. >> i think it's time to do something even more bold, i think the next president ought to invoke the fifth and 14th amendments to the constitutional, now thatter with clearly know that woman, that baby is person of conception. >> there was a recent headline when you spoke back in kansas, where the headline said mike huckabee, republican presidential candidate won't rule out employing u.s. troops, fbi to stop abortion, is that the fallout from invoking the 14th and 15th amendments. >> those weren't my words. that was something that the rolling stone reporter said, we know how reliable rolling stone is as a journalistic tool. so, what i'm saying is, the real issue not are we going to give money to planned parenthood the bigger issue is, is that unborn child is a human being, because if it is, then the amenltdmentes apply. >> what does that mean, though, in practice? >> it means that you guarantee due process under the fifth amendment. it means under the 14th amendment there's equal protection under the law. how that plays out is one of the ways we discover, what does it take for americans to wake up to the fact that we're violating the constitutional rights of human beings. >> would that mean calling in law enforcement to prevent abortions? >> i think the bigger question is, let's establish the personhood of the individual, let's make sure that america comes to grips with that. george, we can't keep defending the loss of human lives over the past 42 years, we're not acting like civilized people in the way of abortion. even the politicians who pretend they're not really for it, they're personally against it. they'll say things like let's keep it safe, legal and rare. it's not safe. i don't think it's legal. i think it violates the fourth and 15th amendments and it's not rare. it happens 4,000 times a day. >> governor huckabee, thank you for joining us. hope you'll come back soon. rick perry joins us now, former governor of texas, also presidential candidate. he was there thursday, in the early debate. he joins us from iowa. what do you think of invoking the fourth aifth and 15th amend? >> that's what we need to be focused on these operations that are clearly outside the bounds of not just humanity, outside the bounds of our criminal law. one of the reasons we shut down planned parenthood in texas and i might add, replaced those dollars with women's health care dollars that really went to the core and didn't protect what the people of state of texas wanted to do which was not be a place that expanded abortion, we had parental consent notification and we also had laws that son gram bills and protect the life and also to protect the life of those mothers. the real issue is to give real options on women's health care and to restrict these groups that are using out of the norm procedures to do these abortions. >> you know, you held your own in that first debate on thursday, had about a quarter of the viewers of the primetime debate on fox news, what will it take to get into the second debate. ? >> this a long game. george, it's six months until iowa. that's the reason i'm in iowa now. it's going to be iowa, new hampshire and south carolina that puts our nominee on track. that's one of the things i learned in 2011, you got to spend a lot of time in iowa new hampshirened south carolina. debates are important. but there is nothing that's more important than sitting in a town hall meeting or in a roping arena as i was last night in iowa falls, iowa, talking to the people. they're the ones that are going to show up for the caucus and the primaries in new hampshire and south carolina, that's where you better be spending your time. >> you're in for the first votes even if you don't get into the debates. >> sure, we're going to be engaged in this process and it's going to be a fluid up and down, back and forth. it's always is. back in '07, rudy giuliani led the polls for almost a year, he and fred thompson, there was some celebrity going on there, we may be seeing a bit of that right now, i think this is a very fluid process and it's going to change a lot. i feel they're confident in who has the executive experience, who's created jobs, i'm one of the few who have worn the uniform of the country. who the solution-oriented can't is going to be. >> in the meantime, you have to contend with donald trump, has he finally gone too far? >> we'll see about that. that's frankly up to him. any time a candidate, i don't care who it is, having been the governor of texas and had very close relationship with our men and women in uniform, as a matter of fact, marcus terrell lived with my wife and me for two years. what donald trump said about him and others who have served our country so nobly was really offensive to me. i'm not going to go quiet. i'm going to call mr. trump or anyone else for offending young people giving up their lives for us, it's not a political game with me. so, i'm going to be very strong when it comes. i'm going to speak out loudly when anyone offends those men and women who's doing everything they can to defend us. >> thank you for join ughs. the roundtable back with more on that i'll never forget you, jon, but i will be trying. >> good riddance, smartass. >> don't go, come back. jon, i'm being sarcastic. >> and just when i'm running for president, what a bummer. >> what has 9 1/2 fingers and won't miss you at all, this guy. >> i'm sure you'll be missed by somebody. >> there are a lot of things happening around the world that keep me up at night which is why i relied on you to keep me to sleep. >> i'm jon stewart, i'm dumb, i'm stupid. so long. >> little payback for jon stewart's final show. i'm back now with the round table. i want to stick on the debate, mark. we heard sara fagen said that some of the governors did well. what is your analysis? >> there are a lot of debates to go and i think, you know, jeb bush needs to do better than that if he wants to be a nominee. he was much better at red state yesterday. none of these guys, guys on the ten-person debate, are rise something far to the occasion, but it is the summer. all of them left there having learned even the people who got the best review were strong to win the general election. >> we did see carly in that undercard do quite well in the first debate, i want to take a bit of issue with the summer debates, lot of time, of course there's a lot of time left, there's no fact the debates this time around do have the e kwif lechbt of what the straw polls used to be. >> republican party restricting the number of debates, having one per month. there aren't many big debates between now and the first votes are cast in iowa. that audience the other night was enormous. i think it matters a lot. i think carly fiorina was the one who broke through the undercard. i can't see how they cannot get the one woman in the race up on that stage. >> do you agree with that? >> well, i think she's earned the right to be there. at the same time, you can't have a debate with 150 people on the stage, it simply isn't going to work. >> what do they do if she's still at 1%, 2%? >> she's not. in the aftermath, she had an audience of 6 million people for an undercard debate. and the play she got three days after, after trump, she ghoot t most play. the person most likely to drop out of the top ten, is chris christie, the leading candidate a year and a half ago. >> despite that exchange with rand paul. >> but he was strong. >> not in the aftermath that hasn't been forgotten. >> a fair point. in the aftermath of this debate, everything has been forgotten. the only thing people are talking about is donald trump. if you look at the way the delegate process works you need over a 1,000 delegates to win. the first 15 days, we're going to decide 45% of our delegates por portion. if all of these delegates are decide decided proportionally. this is going to be a long debate. >> most of those delegates will be chosen during the process on march 1st. >> he's got money, too. >> that's right. >> ted cruz -- >> his ability to break through. >> jeb bush has money. ted cruz. >> they both have money and the only two really focused on a 35-state strategy going forward. >> money -- i'm going to speak a little hersy, money isn't going to matter in this race. whoever gains momentum -- >> what if you have split winners? scott walker wins iowa, jeb bush wins new hampshire -- >> large candidate field, the more other candidates are helped in that process. one thing, we talked about all of this and how it's going to hurt the gop, if a republican emerges from this process, who is thoughtful, who is reasonable conservative, who's expansive in how they approach the country that's going to give hillary clinton if she's the nominee a run for the money. a distrusted by the country and who the current incumbent president -- >> last night, bernie sanders got spoken down in seattle. right after that event, 15,000 people in seattle. >> he's gone to portland, oakland, bernie sanders is really hot, he's hot right now, hot in terms of the passion of the democratic party, the passion of independents. . what matt said about hillary clinton, her numbers, she have suffered since announcing her race, look at her favorability. i'm not concerned about hillary clinton right now because she has an opportunity to regain all of that momentum once we begin our debate season in october. >> john, 15 seconds. >> you can't look at the enthusiasm of bernie sanders and not be worried if you're the clinton campaign. he could beat her in iowa, he could beat her in new hampshire. >> then hit a firewall. >> you know what, that's all we have time for today. thank you for sharing part of your sunday with us. come right back tomorrow for "good morning america." >> those papal zones -- too much? -- on "inside story" right now. ♪ good morning, everyone. i'm matt o'donnell. it is sunday, august 9, 2015. let's meet our panelists of this week. george burrell, nonprofit executive and attorney, joins us. >> good morning, matt. >> hello, george. christine flowers, attorney and journalist. >> hi, matt. >> good morning, christine. >> nelson diaz, attorney. hey, nelson. >> i don't know what i am. [ laughter ] >> i think you ran for something. and val digiorgio, attorney and also chester county republican head. how you doing, val? >> good morning, matt. >> before we begin with our pope topic -- you ran for mayor, you didn't win the nomination for the democrats. i could ask you a lot of questions, nelson, but did you learn anything? >> yeah, i learned a lot -- that it takes a machine, it takes money, and when dougherty got dwight to endorse, then you had

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