Wall. Dickerson well have plenty of analysis on all the political news plus well talk about the legacy of muhammad ali. Who died friday at the age of 74. Its all coming up on face the nation. Captioning sponsored by cbs good morning welcome face the nation im john dickerson. Less than a month ago we traveled to california to sit down with Democratic Front runner Hillary Clinton. And asked her about her strategy in the fall campaign. Dickerson sat down with mr. Trump at his home in Beverly Hills on friday thats where our in ii view began. On thursday Hillary Clinton gave speech very tough on you said that you wanted to bring back waterboarding, go after the families of terrorist, she says youve said that you no more about isis than the generals, what policy of yours did she mischaracterize. It was really trump policy. She had it all wrong. First of all, she talked that i wanted to nuke all of these countries is ridiculous. I want these countries to pay for protecting them. We have 19 trillion in debt very soon going to 21 trillion in debt i want these countries to reimburse us at least for our cost. She made many statements that she knows were wrong. Dickerson do you feel like you know more about isis than the generals. They dont know much because theyre not winning, i you this theyre not winning for a different reason. I think o dickerson how so . From what i hear its being run from the white house. Its all being run from the white house. Ive spoken to certain generals ill keep it quiet, highly respected people. We could knock them out fast. Dickerson in office now generals . In. One case in office. One case out of office. They said, both said the same thingf we had the leadership, mean can the go ahead, could knock them out fast. For some reason obama is not doing that. Dickerson let me ask you about libya youve been highly critical of libya. You were also for military action to oust gadhafi and take action in libya, you supported this. You say supportive, i supported libya . You supported did i . Where do you see that. Dickerson in video blog from 2011 you said we should go in, we stop this guy which would be very easy and very quick, we could do it surgically. Stop him from doing it and save these lives. Big differencero were talking about. Im only one, i made lot of money with gadhafi. He came to the country and he had to make a deal with me because he needed a place to stay, they paid me a fortune, never got to stay there it became a big joke. But the fact is, that libya was a disaster from the standpoint of way it was handled. Dickerson for intervention . Just to clear that up . For something, but for what you have right now. Right now isis has their oil, john. Ice is selling among finest oil in the world. Isis has taken over the libyan oil and we dont do blockades or anything, making a fortune with it. We go out, we do libya, we do it poorly as poorly as you can do it. You cant do worse. And then now if you look at whats happened, the end results isis is selling the oil and its a total mess. Dickerson this is one of the things that confuse some people about your position you said you werent for intervention but you were for intervention. I didnt mind surgical. I said surgical. Do you a surgical shot you take but i wasnt for what happened. Look at the way look with benghazi all of the problems it was handled horribly. Dickerson you said you were never for intervention. I was never for strong intervention, i could have seen surgical where you take out gadhafi and his group. Dickerson you said Hillary Clinton should go to jail. If fbi which is investigating if theres no indictment, will your attorney general go so, i have spoken to, ive watched and ive read many, many lawyers on the subject. Socalled neutral lawyers. Not even on one side or the other. Everyone of them without a doubt said that what she did is far worse than what other people did like general petraeus who got twoyear jail term. General petraeus and others have been treated lives have been in a sense destroyed, she keeps campaigning. What she did is a criminal situation. She wasnt supposed to do that with a server and emails all of the other. Now, i rely on the lawyers. These are good lawyers. These are these are lawyers that know what theyre talking about and are very well versed they say shes guilty as hell. Dickerson sounds like youre making promise for attorney general that if you were electet you were making. To have very fair. But i would have my attorney general look at it. Dickerson even if it investigation you have a five maybe sixyear statute of limitation. Dickerson current investigations dont find anything youd have your attorney general go back . Yes, i would. Everyone knows that shes guilty. Now, i would say this, shes guilty. But i would let my attorney general make that determination. Maybe they would disagree i would let that person make the determination. Dickerson what for you is she exactly guilty of . Shes guilty of the servers, guilty of you look at confidential information, i mean all of the information that probably has gotten out all over the world. And then you know what shes also guilty of stupidity and bad judgment. Dickerson if that were criminal im not saying that part is criminal. But certainly guilty of that. In terms of this country, she is guilty of having bad how could she do it dickerson what gets to jail, though . What whats the difference between rhetoric and law . What the lawyers are say can what she did in terms of national security, very strict rules and regulations, shes broken all of them. Dickerson classification issue . Course it is. But shes broken so much. But shes so if you look at from the standpoint i dont have did she do it . Judgment, the word judgment, this is not criminal judgment you make bad judge the. Actually under those rules and regulations judgment even criminal. Werent supposed to do it. If you make a mistake they dont take that into account, why would a person and how can a person with this kind of judgment become the president of the United States . Now, think of this. In a cyberworldn is a very complex, were in world like weve never been in before. If we were in cyberworld she cant even handle her emails how can she be president . Were being hacked all over the i mean, to the best of everyones knowledge it seems to be. Listen to this, were in a cyberworld and shes playing around with servers and emails. How can she be running this country. She doesnt know what shes doing idea move on to another development. Paul ryan now come out and endorsed you. Youve talked to him several times. Which of his ideas of the famous ryan ideas are most appealing to you . Hes most appealing. Hes a good man. He wants good things for the country. We will agree on many things, were not going to agree on all is things. Well agree on many things. I think well agree on, as an example he really focuses on poverty. He wants to take people out of poverty. So do i. Were going to come up with a plan. Dickerson why do you think people are poor . Because they dont have jobs. Poor in many cases because they dont have jobs. I will tell you will bring jobs back to this country like nobody has ever seen before. And people like carrier and ford and nabisco leaving chicago and moving to mexico. Theyre all moving to mexico. I will stop that very quickly. Dickerson do you see yourself as implementing paul ryans agenda as president or is paul ryan implementing the donald trump . I think compromise, honestly. I can see a proceed mice. Dickerson on issues of trade, entitlements, you and immigration, trade, entitlements, immigration are no small issues you are on exactly the opposite end those arent differences. I dont know. To be honest. Weve spoken about it very briefly. They are big subjects. What my deal is on trade i want good deals. Somebody said, what is your position on trade n i said, i want good deals. Whether its free trade, not free trade, i want good deals for our country. We dont make good deals we have a trade deficit with china with mexico, were have trade deficit with japan. We make bad deals whether its the military, whether its trade, we only make bad deals. Dickerson he was asked by cnn, two things. One about deporting of the 11 million undocumented immigrants which the president by the way called a fantasy. He said if you asked him to do that hed say, no, dont do it. Also said about temporary ban on muslim integration, no, dont do it. Based on these promises. How are you going to get past the establishment to keep those promises . You have to watch and see. Ive done a lot of things nobody thought i could do. Dickerson youre not backing down on the promises based on we have to do something. We have a problem in this country. We have a radical islamic terrorism problem in this country. By the way, throughout the world. Throughout the world. Its a problem. Its a temporary thing im not talking permanent. We have to find out what is going on. Dickerson what does the members cab heritage of the trump heritage. Jump University Case . Ive had terrible rulings forever. I had a judge previous would have been a very quick case. Own Summary Judgment. This is street case, nobody writes this, they dont like to write it, the plaintiff in the case is a woman. She was so bad that under deposition it was over. She couldnt have been it was a disaster. They went before the judge, they said, we dont want her to be the plaintiff. We want to put somebody else in. We said, well, thats fine. Dismiss the case. You have to dismiss the case. Wait a minute. She gave letters, the most incredible reviews that youve ever seen, of the university. She had most incredible. On top we have a tape where shes talking about it in the most glowing terms. You wouldnt speak about your college dickerson but the judge from mexico were getting terrible rulings. We go to the judge, say to the judge, you cant let her out of the case. He let her out of the case. Shes the plaintiff. The case is over. The case isnt over. Now, give dickerson but for him, how is his mexican heritage have to do with him not ruling hes a member of a a club or society very strongly pro mexican. Which is fine. But i say hes got bias. I want to build a wall. Im doing very well with the latinos, mexicans, very well with them in my opinion. And were going to see youre going to see, because you know what im providing jobs. Nobody else is giving jobs. But just so you understand. This judge has treated me very unfairly. Hes treated me in a hostile manner. And theres something going on. When a woman can be a plaintiff in a case then say, i dont want to be you know why they dont want to be a plaintiff, they didnt want her, lawyers asked that she not be a plaintiff because they boo have lost the . Dickerson if his members an heritage is bear dash members an heritage, why would any mexican voter vote for you when they be theyre going to vote because im going to bring dickerson the same problem because you want to build a ll by made speech last night, hundreds of signs, latinos for trump. All over the place. You know what, they are here legally. They dont want their homes taken away, they dont want their job taken away. They like what im doing. People can come in but they have to come in legally. Dickerson what if he was a muslim. Youve been tough on temporary muslim immigration ban. Would a ms. Limb judge be allowed . Tremendous numbers of people coming into this country that we know nothing about. We have a problem in this country, were going to have big problems. Ive been good at predicting thing, john. Well have people coming into this country totally undocumented they dont know anything about them. They dont have paperwork. I interviewed talked to the best Law Enforcement people in the business, no way of knowing where they come from. And were taking them in from the socalled migration. They are being sent all over the country. We have people that dont different. Would a muslim judge not be able to treat you fairly because of that policy of yours . Its possible, yes. That would be possible, absolutely. Dickerson isnt there sort tradition in heck that w dont judge people by who their parents are . Im talking about common sense. Hes somebody is proud of his heritage, thats great that hes proud dickerson youre saying barrier to him doing his job. Hes in the treating me narrowly. Dickerson not because who his parents are . I have a case where thousands of people have said it was a great school. They have written reviews where they say its a great school. Not a good school, like great. Gave highest marks. I have thousands of these papers. Should have been Summary Judgment case meaning the case should have been dismissed. I had a judge who was very fair. A lawyer that came in when he came in. The lawyer on other side sort of entered the case when did he, trying to figure out what that is dickerson throw this out because now that we didnt know before. Mexican heritage . Because of other things. Dickerson you said you want to how do you allow a case to proceed when the plaintiff asks to be dismissed from the case. The plaintiff, the one that brought the suit, said, i dont want to sue any more. Then you know why they didnt want to . She cant win the case because she was a disaster. The the lawyers want her dismissed. They go before the judge he lets her out . Well, he can let her out but you have to dismiss the case. Dickerson i guess im confused what his mexican parents have to do with that. Excuse me, i want to build a wall. I dont think its very confusing. Has nothing to do with anything except common sense. We have to stop being so politically correct in this country. We need a little more common sense, john. Im not blaming, im proud of my heritage, were all proud of our heritage. But i want to build a wall. Hispanics, many of them like what im saying theyre here legally they dont want people coming taking their jobs and their house and everything else. They dont want that. Dickerson let me ask you about Trump University youre going to reopen it, anything do you differently when you reopen it . Look, i guess in life you always do things differently. The thing that we did very well we had evaluation reports done by all of the students. Without that, it would be my word against their word i guess. Or somebodys word against their word. We have evaluation reports where we have thousands of them. Thousands of them. And these reports, very detailed reports. What did you think of the instructors, what do you think of this. One to file. Mostly five. Five being excellent. Its from one to five. Five being the best. People circled, im being sued by people that have given this tremendous theyre going to say, they were forced. Who forced them . Nobody forced them. They forced thousands of people to sign reports . Nobody forced them to sign reports. Many says remarks, many have been handwriting, beautiful statements about the school. Look, its very simple. Its called if i have chance to get my money back let money back. Dickerson last question, should the u. S. Go to the olympics with the threat of zika in brazil . The answer to, yes. But certainly as an athlete wouldnt want to do it. Dickerson thank you very much. Thank you very much. Dickerson well be back in one minute with a look back at the life of muhammad ali. Wearing powerful sunscreen . Yes neutrogena® ultra sheer. Unbeatable protection helps prevent early skin aging and skin cancer with a clean feel. The best for your skin. Ultra sheer®. Neutrogena®. Dickerson we lost muhammad ali on friday. Man whose impact went far beyond his sport. Ali was a boxer and as he let the world know, so much more. Thats im the greatest. Im a movie star. Im an actor. Im a fighter. And most of all, im pretty. J three time heavy weight champion of the world he was known for unorthodox style. Rolling along the ropes to avoid a flurry of blow. Im going to net like a butterfly and sting like a bee, his hands cant hit what his eyes cne his living dancing around the ring he became a legend when he took a stand. In 1964 he announced he was giving up what he called his slave name of cassius clay. And converting to islam. Cassius clay is a name no no more. Yes, sir. Its muhammad ali. Muhammad means worthy of all praise, ali means most high. Dickerson he was a militant over what it was like to be black in america. In some parts of the country a black man who did that could be killed for it. A 1967, ali became a per rye i cant refusing to join the army on religious grounds during the vietnam war. At the height of his talent, he sacrificed his fame, title and liberty for his beliefs. Marking new era in political activism by a star athlete. His come back bouts with George Foreman and joe frazier made him a global celebrity. And in 1981, he even put his fame to use. The former heavy champion, reportedly yelled, im your brother, i want to help you. Dickerson by talking suicidal man back from the brink. The last half of his life ali battled parkinsons diseasal rallying in 1996 to carry the olympic torch. Once scorned he was now a hero. Ali hasnt changed, the times had. Writing in his auto buy byeography he wanted to be remembered a man who stood up for his beliefs no matter what. As a man who tried to unite all humankind through faith and love. I wouldnt even mind, he wrote, if folks forgot how pretty i was. Muhammad ali was 74. Joining us now to New York Times sports columnist William Roden in new york, muhammad ali biography, author of his life and times and new book out today, muhammad ali, a tribute to the start with you, explain for people who may not have seen whole course of muhammad alis life, where you put your finger on the greatsness of muhammad ali, was it boxer, civil rights, humanitarian . So much, john. Covered everyone. For me the first thing was, i never thought id feel . Sad. I knew this was coming, i thought the first this guy has been in my life since i was like 13 years old. And boxing, i was the only black kid in harvey, illinois, catholic school. Everybody talking all this trash about ali. I remember getting ready to watch my father was a joe louis guy. It was february, so, just before the fight went on my dad put on his coat, over coat. He was going i said, where are you going . Im going out to that was known for opposite ends. But dickerson meaning hes going to get knocked out. He thought liston was going to knock him out so he was going to catch him. Every day of my life when im 16, 17, the war was real. This is 67. The war is real. Were thinking, what are we going to do about every phase of my life, including now, ali was there. Dickerson thomas, tell me about muhammad ali as a boxer. Why was he so good . Let me just get one thing off my chest. I was listening to donald trump at the top of this telecast, it brought back a memory of a dinner i had attended at the taj mahal. The trump taj mahal a as it was known then in the mid 1990s, one of those dinners where muhammad was given an award gala event. Donald trump was sitting at the same table at