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Captioning sponsored by cbs welcome to face the nation. Speaker john baner with us. This interview had been planned for some time. We will talk about the popes visit but the big announcement. So i want to talk to you about that lets get right to the news. Four days the government runs out of money is throwing go to be a shut down . No. Senate is expected to pass, house will take up the senate bill. Also take up select committee to investigate these horrific videos that weve seen from abortion clinics that in several states, raise questions about the use ever federal funds and raise questions about abort the fetuses. Dickerson the continuing resolution will that require votes . I sect my colleagues will keep the government open. Dickerson what about the rest of the business you want to get done before october 30th . Ive got another 30 days to be speaker. Ill make the same decisions the same way i have the last four and half years. To make sure that were passing conservative legislation. That good for the country. I expect a little more cooperation from around town to get as much finished as possible. I dont want to leave my successor a dirty barn. I want to clean the barn up before the next person. Dickerson lets talk about the state. A lot of your colleagues ive talked to who have served with you, used the word dysfunction say that you had to resign because its a sign of how things dysfunctional are with the house. I wouldnt call it dysfunction. Disagreement, yes. I said on friday i was planning on leaving at the end of last year when my prepared lost his primary election in july of also year. I just couldnt belief. I had to provide transition for the next leaders. I planned on serving through this year and on november 17 i was going to make announcement. On thursday evening friday morning, why do i want to put my colleagues through this when ill make my colleagues why put institution through this. It was the right decision. I thought we handled it the right way. When you talk about decision they were going to have to go through. Going to be motion to vacate the chair. Kick you out of your job. Help at home. Winning that vote was never an issue i was going to get the overwhelming numbers of votes. But make my members republican members walk the plank. Because criticized at home. By some, who think ought to be more. Accomplished a lieutenant over the four and half years that i was speaker. Whether it of the largest deficit, saving 2. 1 trillion 899 of the American People from increase in taxes or first major entitlement reforms in 20 years. All done over last foyer and half years with democrat president all voted against by my most conservative members because it wasnt good enough. Really . This is the part that i really dont understand. Gave us system of government, majority of the house need 60 votes. The president gets to decide. Some parliamentary system if you won the majority you got this long slow process. Change comes slowly. Too slowly for some. Are they unrealistic in government . Absolutely. But the bible says, beware of false paragraph pets. There are people out there spreading. Noise about how much can get done. I mean this whole idea that were going to shut down the government to get rid of obamacare in 2013 never had chance. But over the course of the august recess in 201 course of september. Lot of Republican Congress who knew it was a fools errand, all this pressure to to do this we have groups here in town, members of the house and senate here in town whip people into a frenzy. They know are never going to happen. But 25 great years here in washington, great staff great colleagues, very thankful. To my family and my constituents for giving me the honor. Dickerson is ted cruz a false prophet. Pick a lot of names out ill let you choose them. Dickerson you dont debate that . Ill refer to you my fundraiser in august in colorado. Dickerson let me put up a picture as you as member of gang of seven 25 years ago the last member of gang still serving, do you got some things changed do you see any of yourself in these current conservatives who are giving you deprive now . No. I was a rebel. It wasnt about shaking up the republican. The house was run as one democrat chairman called it the last plantation in america the post office scandal. My share of members to jail over ism proper activities in the house. But all that have bee we began to question how the house was being run ther from of the house helps us write the contract with america get into the majority. Its been a great run. Dickerson let me ask you about you called, i believe you word jackass. Button that up for the america people. Switching to a much more bigger topic what was the bigger topic being named speaker or dash. Grew up as altar boy was a big deal. Ive tried with the last three popes to get them to address joint session of congress. The first time i did this, back in 1995 or 96 somehow showed up my mother called my, still alive then, my mother never called me. I answered the phone john, its your mother. Now listen i see youre inviting the pope, if hes there, im there, you got it . Dickerson he was with you this time. Well, looking from above. Dickerson thats what i mean. Tell me about that day. The impression it left on you big deal, then youre in his presence. Yes. A nice greeting when he came to the capital once the cameras were gone and hope sat down i said, your holy father youre on boehner time. He looked at me funny that means youre on time or youre early. Youre early. We had wonderful chat and Cardinal Rolle and myself got in the conversation about education and the kids. Then the meeting broke up, my family came in my six week old grandson allister was blessed by the hope. Dickerson when you you told another store row what the hope said to you about prayer. We left where the hope addressed all the people in the capital we came through my office the hope went down to the firster from on my elevator i took the steps down to the first floor, in which we now call freedom foyer i was standing there with the pope, the cardinals and the entourage was all moving out to their vehicles and the pope takes his left arm grabs my left arm pulls me near him and saying nice worse, i wouldnt repeat because it cause me to cry. Then put his arm around me and pulled me right into him and said, please pray for me. Well, you can imagine, i was a mess. Who am i to ray for the snow but i did. Dickerson there is belief in the Catholic Church that the holy spirit can move us. Did it after that visit to make this decision for you . It helped clear the picture. I never related one of these instances to the other. But by friday night it was obvious, its time to do this j. So you woke up thursday night. Woked up to starbucks and back. Walked to at 7 45 i said, yeah, its time to do this. Dickerson in a year or so you will be back in the hall nor the unveiling of your portrait. What do you want them to stay about you at that ceremony some. He was a good man. Dickerson thats it . All. Dickerson and do you have anything that you can say now that youre headed out the door that you wouldnt have said if you had to go through another election . No. I love my colleagues. Even ones may disagree with me. I love the institu i tried to do the best thing every day. Im a simple guy. Do the right thing for the right arenas the right things will happen. Dickerson tell us about your thoughts about president obama. You worked on that grand bargain, didnt come through. Reflect on that for a moment . Its probably one of the best egg disappointments in my speakership. We were so close to having two days later the president walked away from it. Save about 5 trillion. Been good for our economy, good for the country good for the kids and grandkids. But its washington. Things happen. And on friday morning, nice conversation with my dear friends george w. Bush. All my legislative colleagues. Dickerson what advice do you leave for your successor about the job. Do the right things for the right reasons. Keep the country best interest in mind. And have courage to do what you can do. Its easy to have the courage what you cant do but the courage to do what you can do. Our system of government is not about hail mary passes, its the woody hayes school of football. Three yards and a cloud of dust. Its a slow methodical process. Dickerson one last, what are you going to do now by the way . I dont know. I made that decision, well figure it out. Dickerson one thing this i heard a rumor about that you might be able to admit now that year leaving, do you do yoga . I do. Not as diligent as i used to be a year ago. But i do. Matter of fact i thought about it this morning because its great far my back. Ive had back problems for 50 years but older you get all those tendons muscles wall want to tighten up. Dickerson thanks so much for being with us. Nice being with you. Dickerson we hope to see you again. Youll come back in retirement . Well see. Dickerson lots to talk about. Well be back with democratic candidate bern my name is watson. Im helping doctors keep people healthy. Take ted here. Im pulling together data he shared from his wearables Health Records and family history, so we can analyze it. Hes doing everything right. For the most part. No pain, no gain. You are a beast, ted. My name is watson. How can i help you . Dickerson joining us now is vermont senator Bernie Sanders. Welcome. I just wanted to get your reaction to John Boehners news, he came to congress with him at the same time. Well, john has had impossiblely difficult job trying to reconcile the conservative wing of his caucus with the extreme right wing of his caucus that will not do anything, pass any legislation that barack obama will sign. Its an impossible job i admire him for hanging in there. Dickerson another piece of news this week, scott walker folded his campaign youve talked a great deal about the billionaire class that influences politics by getting money to candidates. The Koch Brothers were a big supporter, he dispoured from the president ial race. Is that a rebuttal to your argument that big money calls the tune in politics . I wish it were, i wish that the Koch Brothers say gee, now take the 900 million that we machined to spent supporting right wing republicans than either the Democratic Party will spend were not going to spend it. I dont think they live that lesson. The power of money over political process is horrendous. I think that super pacs are playing destructive role in our political system and i will do, if president everything that i can to see that this citizens united, Supreme Court decision is overturned. American democracy is not about billionaires trying to buy elections. Dickerson you did something you went into audience that is not there just to applaud you automatically you went to Liberty University, fundamentalist university you brought your same message one of the things that you said that the audience knew you had disagreement on the question of worse on or same sex marriage but asked to put them aside. The inequities, would you have the same message for liberals that on those issues that really stopped fighting about though focus on the big thing which is the economic inequality . This is what i said at liberty. This is what i believe. I am pro choice, ive always been pro choice. I am strongly in favor of gay marriage i know that at Liberty University people there have honest disagreements with me. I said, any time when we have grotesque level of income and wealth inequal. All the wealth going to the top 1 when we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country on earth many millions of americans are working two or three jobs just to sustain themselves can we not get together and talk about creating an economy that works for all ever us and not justionaires and billionaires. When children go hun america, that is an issue. When 51 of African American kids are unemployment or under employ at Liberty University among these communities you have some very sincere honest people who take these issues seriously. By the way many are concerned as pope francis is, about Climate Change. The need to transform our Energy System away from fossil fuel they believe that the earth created by god cannot be destroyed by grief. My question was can we Work Together to address those issues dickerson like to play something for that you jeb bush said on the campaign trail and get your reaction to it. Message one of hope and aspiration, wasnt one of did i kicks, get in line, well tear care of with you free stuff. Our message one that is uplifting you can achieve success. Dickerson that kind of argument that will be used against you if you use the no, maam knicks. Your Promising Health care for all free college bunch of free stuff. Unrealistic, what is your reaction . Lets be clear that jeb bush is proposing massive tax breaks for the richest people in this country. While he will fight to cut Social Security and medicare and programs that tens of millions ever elderly people and middle class people are working class people are depend upon. I happen to believe that in Democratic Civil rised society all people should be entitled to health care. I do believe that. Is it radical no. Every other Major Industrial crisissed country does the same. Yes, i believe that it is absurd that highly competitive Global Economy with hundreds ever thousands ever bright young people, cant because their family doesnt have the income. I believe that public should be tuition free. Germany does it. Other countries around the world do it. They know investing in their kids is good for the economy. Well pay for that on tax. Dickerson on free College Hillary clinton weighed in on free college lets listen to what she said. I am not going to give free college to wealthy kids. Im not going to give free college to kids who dont work some hours to try to put their own effort into getting their education. Dickerson what is your reaction to that critique, senator . My reactions that i think if you look at my agenda the wealthy people are not particularly supportive of it. Because we are going to ask the wealthiest people in this country to pay substantially more in taxes because we have situation where they are almost earning almost all of the new income. We are going to ask large corporations profitable corporations some cases zero in federal income taxes to paying their fair share. But i do believe that we need a system, Free College Education for all free tuition in public colleges and universities. I think it is simple, straight pore ward, it exists inner countries in fact 50 or 60 years ago used to exist in the United States of america. Dickerson Hillary Clinton had, quote no interest in attacking you. Youve said you wont attack her. Do you take her at her word . I certainly do. I hope that that will be the case. One of the reasons our campaign is doing well is we are focusing on the real issue that impact the middle class and working families of this country. Decline of the middle class Climate Change could runt campaign affordability of college, et cetera. That is what i do. I happen to have known Hillary Clinton for the last 25 years, i respect her. I admire her. Im not going to get into the business of attacking her. I have never run a negative ad. There are very ugly ads against me. I hope that in this campaign we can have civil discourse discussing our differences of opinion which are many on important issues facing our country that is what the American People want us to do. Dickerson the super pac ads is that her promise ex spends to those . I would certainly hope so. Dickerson let me ask you one final, what is status of the debate more of them, any chance going to be more democratic debates . I have a feeling there will be. I think debates are good for the American People, its of it promotes serious discussion, in our kelp see see id like to see more. Dickerson thank you sore much well be back in a moment. 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To move your company from what it is now. To what it needs to become. Dickerson some of our cbs stations are leaving us now. Well be back. Including republican president ial candidate john case i can. Stay with us. They interrupted him before he could finish. Do unto others as you [ applause ] dickerson it was possible that it had been loosened. The work that could get done with ideological foes recognized the good. How long would it last . Days, weeks . Months . Thenswer, less than 24 hours. Just a few minutes ago Speaker Boehner announced hell be resigning. Dickerson that was not applause for John Boehners years of service what one boehner colleague called unseemly competition of grave dancing it wasnt democrats doing the cheering it was members of boehners own party. Thats good. Thats one down. Thats 434 more to go before we done. You want to know how much each of you terrify washington . Yesterday, john boehner was speaker was house. [ applause ] yall come to town somehow that changes. Dickerson congressman tweeted it look like christmas is coming early this year, speaker bane tori sign from congress in october. Congressman told, it couldnt be better day politically for us. Took john boehner 20 years to convince pope to come do congress. Frances spoke of mercy less left indelible mark on the speaker but not his opponents. Weve had a little tech income call problem with governor kasich were going to start with our panel. Susan page with the usa today and ed okeefe for the Washington Post our own nancy cordes of cbs news. Kim, start with you, what is the boehner put the boehner decision in larger context of the Republican Party. Hes being put out as scapegoat for ought the frustrations. Probably bigger scapegoat ought to be mitt romney he failed to win the presidency. He left president obama with a veto pen from the minute that happened what was very larry they were never going to get through anything that rolled back the obama agenda they have been hitting their heads on the wall ever since. I think the real measure how you would look at boehners tenureship ought to be not what they managed to roll back but what they stopped. It was two years into the Obama Presidency there was plenty more the president wanted to, do lot more spending. A Climate Change, all kinds of things did he m did manage. But never able to force him to give up op his agenda. Dickerson nancy, the speaker said, false prophets. Thats pretty tough weve seen him. Business earl but false prophets is about has hard as hes been on the conservative, inside outside of the house. What always frustrated him was not just that he felt that their agenda was unrealistic they knew it was unrealistic that they pushed for members towards anyway. Basically set up no win situation where they tried to gain these symbolic victories that put in tactical disadvantage. He was always trying to convince his members trying to educate them, word he used a lot to play the long game. To be tactical that is reason that he stuck around as long as did he through all the ups and down because he was tactical guy it was very frustrating to watch a lot of these members celebrate some of these shortterm gains. In fact on friday ally told me that this even pushing him out to symbolic victory. Even if they didnt agree with boehner, at least he was willing to take a lot of slings and arrows for him. Dickerson ive heard two things in my reporting with members on the hill. One group conservatives say we are on the rise here. The next speaker is going to have to listen to us we have to listen. Then another group of boehner alloys who say conservatives are going to have to be chased because theyre going to kick out two speakers in a row if the next speaker doesnt deliver, what is your sense how it plays out. That is the last six seeing speakers have all left not of their own devices. Seems to me most conservative forces in the house are emboldened by what happened to john boehner. This creates very difficult situation for the next speaker, probably Kevin Mccarthy and republicans running for president. We already see this in the republican president ial contests where the rise of the outsiders create enormous problems for people we think are more realistic nominees. This is story not finished with john boehner leaving at the end of next month. This is tori that will unfold over the next year. Dickerson let me ask you one of the arguments conservatives made he didnt take on mitch mcconnell. They want new speaker to beat up on mock continental. How much control does speaker of the house have over majority leader. Its not just in grass roots as well. Made it clear they would work more closely. Im truck not only by rank and File Republican lawmakers but president ial candidates saying lets iris the rules of the senate get rid of the filibuster rule get things done. Mcconnell has stood firm that absent 60 votes on republican side not going to get this legislation through. Hes fanned standing by. Dickerson what do you think the message is . Mitch mcconnell said, how disappointed he was, he knew that john boehner was a straight shooter even the democratic leaders, nobody seems more disappoint than them. Nancy pelosi. Cant be overstated how much itch can going to miss john boehner because he had to wrangle this very restless conference of multiheaded boast, if you will. And he never over promised. He said, this is what i can do. Now hear that extended conference where they talk about hopefully not what leader they want but what they want out of the a leader. Because they got two brain cells to rub together, they can spend the next year beating their heads or whether or not they can defund planned parenthood or if want to get something done pick the battle, is that they have do the investigations that they can do put out a message that is going to help them keep the house, and keepment senate and put republican in the white house. That in the end is only way they ever accomplish things that they say they want to accomplish. Dickerson how do they do that . President ial context weve been discussing you have candidates who are running against that just precisely what kim outlined will continue to be what john boehner calls the false prophet. Very sensible plan, the energy of the Republican Party is lets battle. Lets call to arms, its not worked for us we keep winning elections in the getting the results we want to see. I think it is a force has been unleashed, it is unlikely that that things are going to be done in the next 30 days by john boehner deciding im going to pass some stuff that my folks may not like. To clean out the barn as he said in his inner view. Doing he go for longer funding bill so you dont have crisis on december 11. Try to pass the infrastructure bill. Does he choose to do that which hell have to do with democratic notes. And mccarthy look likes the next speaker does probably have better relationship with this crowd, the Freedom Caucus if you will. Than boehner did simply because generational low hes closer to them. He worked to get a lot elected. Dickerson he doesnt hatch the scar tissue that boehner has. All of you sit tight. Well have more from our panel and well get to governor kasich. Can a business have a mind . A subconscious. A knack for predicting the future. 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But also says something about state of the Republican Party. Significant states are out and meanwhile retired neurosurgeon a former ceo and celebrity billion theyre are still in the race in the hunt. It tells you something about the mood of the republican electorate which is, we dont like what weve been seeing, were willing to entertain candidates that seem quite extraordinary. Dickerson what does something do to have been in politics in their life . I think you are seeing that. Scott walkers support appears to have gone to marco rubio has been in poll techs his entire life. What you have seeing here, theres some other lessons roswell. Lot of talk about super pacs, one of the reasons you had 17 people in the republican field that alone cannot actually get you over the finish line. And i think what youre going to see you can probably have some more poem dock out thats probably good for the field. Its allowing focus to go you are seeing some people begin to congeal around the top make their way up. Probably have better debate Going Forward as result of this. In part the resumes are the rope they got out. Rick pear and scott walker, i am clearly not going to be president i have Better Things this do there are lot of other people who maybe dont hoof as much going on. Behooves them to stay in the race. A big week for candidates on both sides. The fundraising quarter comes to an end. The in the next few days here rumblings some who ran out of money cant continue going. Weve seen Hillary Clinton jeb bush, seib other others, raise as much as possible to sigh license the critic. Because fundraising knobs will be proxy how theyre doing. And the shine come off too. Some of the outsiders. Donald trump did not have good week following that debate. You see go to other people. And others going to some of those candidates that have been in politics their whole life because theyre putting out policy proposals that are getting attention. Dickerson where is is jeb bush in all of this. Not in the conversation as much as he would like. Down single digits. He needs to win needs to win some police maybe New Hampshire not doing well. I think he is tal money is not everything. Money is not everything. But money is something. He does have fair amount of money, lot of experience in running these elections. He does need to do better. Debates hes been disappointing. But he needs to show a little more passion he needs to be a little more like his brother when it comes to getting tea attacked getting back in cutting way. Dickerson switch democrats with news weve got. Nancy, another person going to do well is probably Hillary Clinton. But more questions about email this week, what is the state of her campaign do you think at this moment . I think shes trying to talk about this as much as see can take some of the air out of the balloon he they found when he was answering it was stonewalling had nothing hide. Shes admitting to a large degree this is now out of her control which is something you never want to have to admit if youre candidate you like to have everything be under your control. The fbi inquiry she has no control over that. The Benghazi Committee will call her to testify next month. She has no idea what theyre go tg ask or how that is going to go. Now the state department and intelligence officials are certifying more emails that she had not and handed over. There are questions are why they werent in the original batch. Shes doing what she can which is to answer the questions and troy to move forward. Its definitely going to be ongoing challenge throughout election day. Dickerson part of the reason its interesting that the supporters of the Vice President , joe biden are still talking and saying do whatever hell do. Indications are that at some point maybe into november now make decision. Dickerson what about Bernie Sanders and his campaign, were always talking about how hes doing well but what is his next stage for bernie standers . I think hes won the battle but may well lose the war. Hes won the battle that hes pushed Hillary Clinton to the left. Hes helped define the conversation on the democratic side, as the conversation more on issues he wants to push like income and equality, for instance. But i think he continues to struggle with the idea that he is not a likely nominee. That the democrats are unlikely to nominate someone who is the democratic social list from is the and 73 years old even if theyre unhappy with Hillary Clinton. What is your sense of the republican attack against Bernie Sanders. Theres a lot of conventional wisdom, be so much easier to attack. What is your sense about him as target for republican . He would be easier to attack than Hillary Clinton. A lot of his views are out there. But susan makes valid point. Articulate the main messages that any nominee is going to make. On women Climate Change, the environment and things like this. The interesting thing when you look at Bernie Sanders how many people out there in the party are passionate brought Bernie Sanders bid how much is protest vote against Hillary Clinton. And those are the numbers that the biden hell, for instance, are like can at. Lets just wait there for us to scoop up if we get in this race. Dickerson thanks so much. Thanks all of you. Well be right back with governor john kasich. Dickerson we fixed our satellite issue. Republican president ial candidate and Ohio Governor john kasich joins us from columbus. Thank you. You heard some cheering when John Boehners resignation was announced, youve known him for awhile. Long time. Dickerson give us your reaction to his resignation . Im saded. John was a very hes a great guy. Interview described it all. Its a shame that people werent seeing that earlier on you did a very good job in the interview. I was there in the 90s when we got things done. Think about it we changed welfare system which had been in place 40 years. We balanced the budget of which i was chief architect. And we cut taxes the economy was growing we were doing great and when i left washington we had a 5 trillion surplus. Boehner sat right next to me. That was some of the most productive time that republicans or conservative has had. Think budget which people think is fiction, reforming welfare and cutting Capital Gains taxes and creating economic growth. We need to reflect on his accomplishments then and riding and becoming speaker. Dickerson what about his in terms of why that is harder to do today what patrol do you think the group that he calls false prophet in your own party what rule do you think that plays in the current state of things . With its about ingenerals. The people who keep saying they want things to happen what have they accomplished . What have they got done . They are serving in the congress have they accomplished anything . When i served there we achieved thing. I achieved things. I was referee former, ive been reformer all my life i shake up the system all the time, you know how much reform and change it took to balance the federal budget . I stepped on more toe, is that you can i am handling in. Coming to ohio and reformings things out here this state was a he bout debt, now were doing well. People didnt think i could do it. You know how much we had to shake up . A lot of people who were doing the complaining maybe they ought to look in the mirror. Are they just speech makers, just people out there yelling and screaming . I have to disagree with your panel. When i travel around this country, i was just in south carolina, new york boston, in iowa maybe people are yelling loud but at the end of the day people are now beginning to say what can you do, governors to bring people together to accomplish things. Sometimes you hear loud voices out here who get the attention get the headlines. I tell you at the end of the day i believe the Republican Party will pick somebody who is reformer who is a change agent what accomplished things have experience. These people yelling and screaming. You ask them what have you accomplished at the time that youve been in public office. Would be interesting question, wouldnt it . Dickerson we appreciate your help there. The question asking front. Let me ask you this. Who are the people now out of the republican race, they did stuff, governor perry Governor Walker they had experience, no longer able to run for president. What does that say about the climate which youre crying to make the case that you just made . Three things you need to be president in my opinion. Said by smart democrat. One you got to have issues. Two, vision, you have to be likable. You got to have at least two of those three. I think in regard to scott walker hell come back, he may be president some day. Just got over spent a lot of money they ran out. You have of to laugh your resources. My campaign has gone on for slightly more than just two months john. Im in the top tier in New Hampshire, im beginning to rise in iowa. If what im saying is not true, then i should be getting out of the race, which i am not. Because i think were making really Good Progress and connecting. But remember, people want change. They want reform. They want to see something done but just whine about it making speeches doesnt get it done. America needs to solve problems. Some ways it its Even National security issue when the world looks at mesh being unable to solve problems they love at us then they worry is america failing . We need to be able to solve problems in this country. And send a message to the world. Dickerson let me go on that theme there are now two groups in siders and outsiders running in the 2016 republican field. Youve worked both in the Public Sector and private sector those who are coming from the private sector who running are they making unrealistic and whip it all into shape . I respect people need to know how it all works how you have to maneuver things bring people together. Now, i want to repeat one more time. Nobody is shaking up the system more than i have. Military reformer andre play can party, i challenge can my own party on balancing the budget and driving change. Coming into ohio where they said i was going to have to raise taxes rather than balancing the budget by cutting taxes . Ive always been unorthodox in this, against the grain. But you know what, i know how to get it done. Again, john, if we elect somebody that doesnt know how to get it done, who makes a lot of promises, what have we achieved . Even if republicans win we have to solve the problems of immigration, of balancing budget. Dealing with entitlements, rebuilding the military. By the way you better reform the pentagon. I sat on that committee for 18 years i know the challenges in terms of the delivering resources that get to the men and women and the services and not into the bureaucracy. Lot of challenges out there. The other thing i was struck by you point out dickerson im afraid im going to have to interrupt you weve run out of time. Well do it longer the next time, john. Dickerson op the campaign trail. We appreciate it. Ill see you. Dickerson well be right back. 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