we have two sources, congre congressional sources saying that o that osama bin laden is dead. dead. one of one of those sources says the the u.s. has the body in afghan afghanistan and that he was shot shot in the head. now now that tells you that obviou obviously this was not a predato predator drone strike but this m this must have been an on the the ground operation. that that had a good enough locati location on him so that they co could risk putting u.s. troop troops or special operations forces forces or more likely cia op rattiv rattives on the ground to go after after bin laden. and and if this accous corre correct, that means they probabl probably went into pakistan and and took him out of pakistan back back to afghanistan. we'll we'll wait to see what the pakista pakistanies think of this. but i but i think the u.s. positi position would be to act first first and apologise later for for having violated pakist pakistani sovereignty. >> mit >> mitchell: david, i posed this q this question to chip reid at the at the white house a few moment moments ago. you ar you are at the pentagon. how wo how would you describe the mood th mood there tonight, the buzz there there? >> >> well, the place here is absolu absolutely baking. nobody nobody is answering their phones phones. these these either their office phone phones or cell phones. and and when you finally get someon someone on the line, they say it say it will all become clear. clear. you kn you know, they've been sittin sitting on this for some time be time because it probably took a took a number of hours, if not not days to go through the proces process of confirming that yes, yes, indeed, this was osama bin bin laden. becaus because this was something you do you don't want to make a mista mistake about. so you so you would want to have a dna dna confirmation that the body body you had was that of osama osama bin laden. >> mitc >> mitchell: david, you touche touched on this a moment ago but but let's go over it again, if if we can. what d what do we know about where the b the body is right now and where where it many be taken? >> well >> well, all i can tell su that t that the one congressional source source says that the body is in in afghanistan. and and this same source says that that the body is going to be disposed disposed of as opposed to being being given a burial that would would then create a grave site site that would be a tomb that, that, of a martyr that true believ believers and radical islam could could visit. but but that, again, that kind of of detail only comes from one sou one source. so we may be getting ahead of of ourselves here. >> mit >> mitchell: david martin at the e pentagon. we'll we'll be back to you in just a momen a moment. again again to remind folks t is 11:03 11:03 sunday night, cbs news confir confirmed that the osama bin laden h laden has been killed. his body his body is in u.s. hands. we we are waiting for a statem statement from the president of the of the united states that was sup was supposed to company could could at 10:30. 33 33 minutes ago. we we have yet to be given the 2 2 minute warning that the white white house occasionally gives gives us in moments like this. this. we we do not have it the questi question. we don we don't know exactly when the pre the president will speak but it sho it should be very shortly. let's let's go back to our washin washington bureau and lara logan logan. our our chief terrorism corres correspondent bob orr. let me let me ask you as someone who has who has been to that part of the wo the world many times, how would would you describe the terrai terrain that osama bin laden worke worked in and lived in. >> rus >> russ, you know when you look look out at that border region region it is literally mountai mountains as far as you can see. see. i i mean there is nothing e there there. and y and you know what is so strang strange about it is that even t even though it's remote, there there are so few structures. they'v they've no instrau instra instrauk-- infrastructure f f something mov, you know it. it. you you know there is nothing that c that can move in that area withou without the people who live there there being aware of it. they a they are the eyes and ears of the of the pakistani intellig intelligence services out there. there. i mean i mean it's literally like, you kn you know, there isn't the smalle smallest thing that happens out out there that the people don't don't see. becaus because just imagine these stagge staggering mountains up to 10, 10, 12,000 feet and tiny little little mud houses that are built built into the side of it. and and having to travel days to get to get to the nearest market. but y but you know, there are areas areas there, there are towns there there which are very, very highly highly populated and congest congested. so yo so you have a big contrast betwee between very congested areas where where it would be, you know, relati relatively easy for someone to to hide, but not to hide withou without being known about. and t and the same thing out in the the remote areas. there there are caves in those mounta mountains that are imposs impossible to track. there there are trails that smuggl smugglers have used to go across across that border from pakist pakistan into afghanistan and th and the other way for centuri centuries. i mean i mean there are more trails than than anyone, even with drones drones would ever be able to stay stay atop. but at but at the same time, if you are are connected to those local people people, there is nothing that that moves out there that you you can't find out about. and we and we've never had that connec connection before. and and that's always been the bigges biggest problem, is the human human intelligence. what what this seems to indicate, and at and at this point the detai details we don't have as david david was pointing out, we don't don't have all the details right right now. but ju but just the fact that the u.s. u.s. is said to have osama bin bin laden's body indicates that that they've been able to penetr penetrate to that degree where where they were able to cover cover his-- recover his remain remains. and y and you know, that is done throug through human intelligence, by by traditional means. that's that's not done-- i mean, you you know, if we weren't on the the ground there it would be very very hard to get that body away away from osama bin laden innerc innercircle. and and his security around this. this. so so penetrating his innerc innercircle is more than just just being able to say that osama b osama bin laden is big. it it goes to every al qaeda leader leader out there, that the u.s. u.s. can reach out and touch you. you. and and that is significant in and o and of itself. and i and i was just speaking to someon someone who was at the highest highest levels of the u.s. govern government, part of this search search for osama bin laden for for many, many years. and and he was making the point that th that they have never stopped lookin looking for him. that t that the u.s. has never been a a time since 9/11 where the u.s. u.s. said oirx, okay, we don't don't care about aline laden. laden. we are we are not going to look for him an him any more f he pops up that that is great. that is that is the no the case. this this has been an effort that has has involved hundreds and hundre hundreds and hundreds of peopl people for years and years. who who never stopped looking for hi for him. instea instead we pounded and pounde pounded and pounded and never never gave up. and y and you know, he said that the the people who were in power now now obviously this is going to to be a credit for them. he he said but this is an effort effort that has gone on for a very a very long time and most of the peo the people who have been involv involved in it will never, ever ever be known publicly. >> mit >> mitchell: it is 11:07 on the eas the east coast, thank you very m very much, lara. to to remind folks you are watchi watching cbs news special live live coverage. specia special live coverage, cbs news news has confirmed that the united united states, osama bin laden h laden has been killed. his his body is in u.s. hands. we're we're waiting to hear from the wh the white house tonight. presid president obama expected to make a make a statement any moment now. now. want want to go back to the pentag pentagon and david martin. david david you talked about how nobody nobody there is answering their their phones and it has been a a very busy time there tonig tonight. we've we've gone on the air, been on the on the air for about 20 minute minutes. what d what do we know, anything new new at this point? >> we >> well, cbs producer howard rosenbe rosenberg has talked to former former cia officer hank crimpt crimpton and crumpton was one of one of the man in charge of the the cia war in afghanistan and and pakistan. so he so he was once intimately involve involved in the hunt for osama osama bin laden. and h and he said that he had been hearin hearing for the past three or or four weeks that the u.s. was was getting close, getting some s some sort of location on bin laden. laden. probab probably searching first with with a drone and trying to correl correlate what the drone was seein seeing with reports they were were picking up from agents on on the ground. and th and then obviously, at some point, point, that all came togethe together. and t and there was enough certai certainty so that you could risk risk american lives in the attemp attempt and send cia op rattiv rattives in after bin laden. >> mit >> mitchell: lara just touche touched on this, david, you can te can tell us how tight was osama osama bin laden's incert incertificate-- innercircle? this i this is someone that the united united states, has been lookin looking for for more than a decade decade he was able to avoid us us at all costs. how how tight was that innerc innercircle? >> >> if you are's asking me, russ russ, i think itas a very limite limited innercircle. becaus because he communicated throug through, according to those wikilea wikileaks documents, he commun communicated through one trust trusted courier can. and and he must have known that if if he had a retinew of suvs as his as his security guards, he would would create a signature that that would give himself away to to any drone flying overhe overhead. so so his innercircle was both tight tight and very, very restr restricted. so so that at one time there simply simply were very, very few peopl people who could give up bin laden laden's real location. and th and the story behind how this this happened is going to be a very a very interesting one. maybe maybe bin laden got carel careless. he had he had been reading stories about about how the relationship betwee between the cia and pakist pakistan's intelligence agency agency had almost broken comple completely apart. maybe h maybe he got careless for a day day or two, whatever it was, just just that little something allowed allowed people to start gettin getting a track on him. >> mit >> mitchell: david martin at the p the pentagon, thanks. we'll we'll talk to you again shortl shortly. those those of you expecting to see see your local late news, you ar you are watching cbs news live co live coverage, a special repor report. cbs cbs news has confirmed that osama osama bin laden has been killed. killed. his bo his body is in u. is hands. we're w we're waiting for president o o bam -- obama to make a statem statement to the people in just just a few minutes. now now to chip reid. a a lot of folks joining us now now, had not heard the news. reset f reset for us what you are hearin hearing there. >> wel >> well, russ, just to recap, that w that we is heard from multip multiple sources that osama bin bin laden has been killed. appare apparently he was shot in the the head. certainl certainlied predator drones that h that have been flying over, that po that portion of western pakist pakistan and eastern afghan afghanistan for some time, certai certainly likely had a role in in locating him. but but we certainly don't know the the details a at this point. we have we have been told that the presid president was going to speak to to us 40 minutes ago at 10:30 10:30 p.m. eastern time. apparen apparently they are still gather gathering information and the pre the president is not prepar prepared to speak yet. we're we're supposed to get a backgr background briefing from white white house officials in five five minutes. that w that will probably be delaye delayed also. but but again certainly this is someth something that has people here a here at the white house, certain certainly pleased. it it is something that both the the bush white house and the obama obama white house worked for for for many years. it's it's been a decade since 9/11 9/11, of course. and and certainly there could never never be anything approa approaching the end of al qaeda w qaeda without doing away with o with osama bin laden. you m you may recall that a week or s or so ago some wiki leaks documen documents came out, relating exact exactly what happened with a bib bib laden and his top deputy eye man eye man al zoo what heri after after 9/11. that that they drove around by car i car in afghanistan after watchi watching 9/11 on tv, eventua eventually making their way into t into the tora bora mountains where where osama bin laden became very c very close to being captur captured. he th he then escaped into pakist pakistan and has been there ever s ever since. but but now we have these repor reports that he has been kill k kill kd. and and that his body is in the hands hands of the united states. which which certainly poses an intere interesting situation. so so we're waiting to hear from t from the president on the detail details. and th and then get some more detail details after that. but th but the bottom line is that sourc sources, multiple sources say say that osama bin laden, the the perpetrator, the leader behind behind the 9/11 attracts is-- a is-- attacks is dead. >> mit >> mitchell: you said the white white hoe is pleased tonigh tonight. i woul i would have to think that is is an understatement. >> i c >> i can krol only tell you by by the mood that people are in, in, as i went into the lower press press office here and found some some people there. they they were running around to. say th say they are joyous maybe is not qu not quite the right mood. but but certainly they feel that they they have accomplished somethi something extraordinarily importa important. they w they would not talk about it. it. you you could grab them by the lapels lapels and try to stop them and g and get them to say exactly what what is going on and they will n will not say. they they rush back and forth here. here. behind behind us every once in a while while, back over to the reside residents, to the east room where where the president is going to to give his statement, as they they are setting things up. they w they will not say exactly when i when it is happening. but but you can see the sense of excite excitement, really, that someth something that they have been been working on for two and a half a half years and that the bush-- bush-- mrtion worked on for seven seven years has finally been accompli accomplished. >> mit >> mitchell: and just from your your perspective here, this statem statement was supposed to be made made about 43 minutes ago how how unusual is it to be pushe pushed back. >> it' >> it's not unusual at all. even even on a situation that has alread already developed, the postpon postponement, a delay is not unlike unlikely. and and in a situation like this where where they are obviously still still trying to gather the facts facts and know as much as they they possibly can, confirm as as much as they possibly can from a from a remote region of pakist pakistan, it is not surpri surprising at all that this would would be delayed. >> mit >> mitchell: chip reid, we'll we'll talk to you again in just just a moment. right right now back to our terror terrorism consultant, expert, juan juan zarata in washington tonigh tonight. we we spoke a few moments ago. let me let me ask you that question again. again. we we probably have a new audien audience now. how how big of a deal is this? >> >> this is a huge deal. not not only should the white house house be extremely happy and ecstat ecstatic but i think all america americans should. this this closes a key chapter on the war the war on terror. osama osama bin laden has been the symbol symbolic, strategic, moral leade leader, for not just al qaeda qaeda but the broader global sunni sunni extremist movement. and yo and you cannot imagine 9 end of al al qaeda without his death. death. and so and so his death tonight, the the reports of it, are just a grea a great moment in the war on terro terror. for for those of us who are involv involved, i was with the prior prior administration trying to to hunt bin laden. solara solara's earlier point, the hunt never ended. but the but there was often periods of ti of time when you wouldn't get a get a whiff of where he was. fortuna fortunately, our in2e8 agains against officials, our military military were on his trail and cer and certainly got him tonig tonight. and i and i think it's a remarka remarkable moment in the war on on terror and i think we should should all celebrate it. >> mit >> mitchell: as someone involv involved in that hunt for years, years, how would you describ describe the frustration that y that you went through when you we you were in that position? >> >> usually frustrating. i i said publicly my greatest disappo disappointment was leaving my pos my position at the white house, house, not having seen bin laden laden killed or captured. so so for me this is a wonde wonderful night. i i congratulate those who were were involved and very thankfu thankful that they got him. because because i think it's not just a just a symbolic move. as as lara was saying earlier, this this demonstrates that there is is persistence to american po power that nobody is beyond our re our reach. and th and that somebody who commit commits acts of terror agains against americans since the mid mid 1990s will be gotten. and i and i think it's a great message message to be sent, not only to bin to bin laden and the inner corps corps of al qaeda but to other other terrorists and others who ma who may seek to do us harm. i thi i think this is a graement moment moment for america. >> russ >> russ, one thing i wanted to say to say, the delay and the stateme statement may be also becau because the white house wants wants to calibrate this not just f just for an american audien audience but also for the audien audience abroad. and al and also for our enemies. and i and i think that maybe why you you are getting calibrations from t from the white house and some some delays. >> mit >> mitchell: juan zarate in washingt washington. we will we will be back to you in a bit. bit. now now back to bob orr at the washin washington bureau. you you have new information for us, us, bob? >> >> russ, we talked a lot about about obviously the death of bin lad bin laden and that is import important. but we but we also have to focus a little little bit on what comes next. next. so so around the world every govern government has taken note of this, this, and they have to move perhap perhaps another strategic positi position in terms of defens defense. we're we're hearing from a reporte reporter in pakistan, a key strate strategic places in pakistan they h they have beefed up security there. there. in a in a preventive way to try to a to anticipate what might come i come in the way of retali retaliation from al qaeda if anythin anything. but one but one thing that's very intere interesting that i observed a coup a coupl