Transcripts For WTXF Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace 2016

Transcripts For WTXF Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace 20160501

Fiorina. Well ask cruz about maneuvers that are being called either daring or desperate. Plus what about those comments from john boehner . Lucifer in the flesh. We will ask our sunday panel why cruz is so hated in washington. And this Program Marks its first 20 years. Good morning, im tony snow. You did foxs video on this show, you did your conservative hit job on me. I can do that. Not going to do that. All right now. On Fox News Sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. This week Fox News Sunday marks 20 years on the air and today as the republican race for president approaches what could be a Tipping Point well speak with the top two candidates, donald trump and ted cruz. Trump hasnt appeared on a sunday show in almost a month, but he agreed to an exclusive interview today to mark our anniversary. And after landslide victories on the east coast, hes looking ahead to indiana tuesday where a big win could effectively clinch the nomination. Mr. Trump, welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Good morning. You were the target of sometimes violent protests in california this week, opposing your hard line immigration policy. Are you concerned that if you are the republican nominee these demonstrations could disrupt your campaign . No, we were at that particular moment we had 31,000 people in the stands, it was packed, they have never had a crowd like that, its the biggest crowd they have ever had. We had 31,000 people. Didnt we didnt have a riot, we didnt have anybody raise their hand, it was a lovefest for an hour and a half. I didnt even see the riot. These are wise guys that stomp on policemens cars. These were professional agitators, they were wearing masks, the cops tell me anytime you see a guy with a mask you know hes a professional. These people have to be dealt with very strongly. You cant allow that to happen to a police car, you know, essentially. This was an amazing this was an amazing evening where we had 31,000 people and almost never other than a couple of helicopter shots did anybody see the crowd, the massiveness of the crowd, a record setting crowd and nobody even saw it, they only showed some guys making noise outside. Mr. Trump, it isnt just as you say professional agitators, youve angered a lot of people in this country beyond even the illegal immigrants. In a real poll 15 of hispanic voters have a favorable view of you, 81 unfavorable. I dont have to tell you, you cannot win in november with those numbers. Well, i say those numbers are going way up once i start going. I have two more people i have to get rid of, i started off with 17 and one by one i knocked them off, i knock off jeb bush who was easy, i knocked off walker, i knocked off a lot of very talented people and frankly i have to you know, i have to do what i have to do. Now once i start on hillary you will see the numbers change. I mean, look, when i started this everybody said, well, hes not im not a professional politician, which is a good thing, by the way, but its true, but one by one i won and now 81 watch what happens with hillary and watch what happens with my numbers. Ive been hit with 55,000 negative ads, 55,000, over 100 million of negative ads. Kasich hasnt been hit with one ad, he is not anyanywhere anyway. He hasnt been hit with an ad, neither has cruz. Ive been hit with 55,000 ads and still leading in a landslide and i think doing really well, as you probably have seen, im doing really well in indiana. The last two polls that have come out have me tied with hillary, one has me winning. Lets talk about your standing with women, too. In that same poll that showed you overwhelmingly negative among all hispanic voters 24 of women have a favorable view of you, 75 unfavorable and yet in your victory speech on tuesday night here is what you had to say about clinton. I think the only card she has is the womans card. Shes got nothing else going. And frankly if Hillary Clinton were a man i dont think shed get 5 of the vote. Now, i have to tell you strategists in both parties say if you consciously went about it, if you specifically planned you couldnt have said anything that would drive your numbers among women even lower. Really . Okay. Well, imply own strategist and i like that what i said and its true. I only tell the truth and thats why people voted for me. Wait a minute. Dont forget in the republican primaries which i just beat by cruz by numbers like 50 , i was up by so much, i had 62 in new york and i was 63 and 64 mr. Trump, with all due respect whether or not you let me just ask the question. But, chris, all of the polls coming out i won with the women by landslides, i beat cruz and i beat kasich i understand, but Hillary Clinton is a different deal. And regardless of whether you like her or not or think that she should be president or not to say i mean, she was a senator, she was secretary of state for four years. To say if she were a man shed get 5 , isnt that kind of dismissive . Well, Bernie Sanders said a lot worse than that. He said that she almost shouldnt be allowed to run, that shes not qualified to run and shes not capable. I mean, Bernie Sanders, what he said was a lot worse than what i said and im going to use that. We will have that teed up. But Bernie Sanders said she shouldnt be allowed to run, that shes not capable. And, you know, what he said is incredible. Its a sound bite, in fact, as soon as he said it they broke in and said i can just imagine donald trump watching these statements Bernie Sanders is making about clinton. Look, shes a strong person, shes going to have to be able to take it. The fact is the only card she has is the womans card. Shes done a lousy job in so many ways and even women dont like her, they dont like her. But it is the womans card and she plays it and i will let you know in about six months whether or not she plays it well, but i dont think shell play it well. I dont think shell play it well at all. Its true, if she were not a woman she wouldnt even be in this race. All right. Lets talk about your big Foreign Policy speech this week, which i think its fair to say got mixed reviews, one of the concerns, the biggest criticism is that there were contradictions, for instance, in how you would handle the middle east. Here you are. Were getting out of the nation Building Business and instead focusing on creating stability in the world. The question is if were going to disengage from that part of the world, how do we promote stability . You talk about in your speech the futility of creating democracies. Would you like to see a return to strong men in the middle east, people like knew bar rack and Saddam Hussein . Isnt it true that we knocked them out in the first place. If our president s went to the beach for 365 days a year wed be a lot better in the middle east than we are now. Now you have a mess. You have a big fat mess and i called that a long time ago, in 04 and 03, i said dont knock out when you knock out iraq you are going to ruin the balance and the balance has been horrible. Then you had libya and syria and everything. I mean, they couldnt have been worse. The people that advised our president s or our president s, whoever was the one that came up with this plan, i mean, what weve done in the middle east, weve spent 4 trillion and were far worse than the first gunshot that was fired. What weve got to do is weve got to knock off isis and weve got to at some point get out of there. We have to rebuild our country. Our country is becoming third world, our airports, roadways, train systems. You go to china and you go to other places, they have trains that travel 300 miles an hour. We have the Long Island Railroad that can hardly move. I mean, we are like a third world country, but we have to get rid of isis and we have to get rid of them very decisively. Ive been saying for a long time keep the oil. Isis now has libyan oil. Isis now has the libyan oil, we dont even do anything to stop it. Theyre making a fortune with libyan oil. If we would have left gaddafi you wouldnt have that. Every move we made in the middle east was wrong and a lot of times they want me to get these great foreign advisors and these great geniuses and theyve been involved for 15 years. I dont want the people that have been involved for 15 years because those are the people that have absolutely what theyve done to this country and our country and on top of it we owe 19 trillion in debt. Let me pick up on this because when you talk about, you know, we need to stop spending money overseas and spend it at home, that sounds more like a liberal democrat and the question i have is you talk about the mess, your words, that bush and obama and clinton have made in the middle east, interventions in iraq and libya. It almost sounds like you would be as a general election candidate you would be criticizing Hillary Clinton from the left, that we should be less intervening in the rest of the world. I want to rebuild our country. I want to rebuild our military, make it bigger, better, stronger than ever before. I want to take care of our vets. We have to handle education, we have to get rid of obamacare. Our Education System is a disaster and weve got to get rid of common core. So would it be fair to say that Hillary Clinton would be the hawk in this race . Chris, we have so many things to do with our country we cant have this anymore. We are spending all of our money in the middle east, and on top of that were defending the world. Would it be fair to say and this country cant afford to do it. Would it be fair to say that Hillary Clinton will be the hawk in in race and you will be the dove. I will be much tougher than her, i will have much more respect than her from foreign countries. I read today where theyre very concerned with me, they feel im very strong, very tough and theyre very concerned. Thats a little opposite of what youre telling me. Thats a psychological thing which frankly is good, let them be a little concerned, were defending germ gee, japan, saudi arabia with all of that money and not getting properly reimbursed. Were like the policeman to the world. Whats going on is crazy. We are going to strength on our military big league, its the cheapest money you can spend and weve got it pulled back because that is just a big mess. Thats a revolution, thats a civil war, thats a religious war going over there. Were in the middle of it. For 15 years weve been wasting time, killing lives and i mean lives on both sides. Mr. Trump, were running out of time. Hundreds of thousands, even millions of people have been killed. Mr. Trump because of horrible decisionmaking. For my 20th anniversary let me ask a couple of questions. Okay . Yes. President obama took some shots at you again at the white house Correspondents Dinner last night. Here is one of them. They say donald lacks the Foreign Policy experience to be president. But in fairness he has spent years meeting with leaders from around the world, miss sweden, miss argentina he also said that you could close Guantanamo Bay because youre good at running Waterfront Properties into the ground. Well, i guess im good at something because i made 10 billion and i started with a 1 million loan. So now i have over 10 billion of net worth so i guess im good at something and i have the best Waterfront Properties in the world so i dont even know what hes talking about. I have some of the great Waterfront Properties in the world, you look at all of the jobs ive done in los angeles. But your reaction to what the president had to say. I think it was fine. Its a comedy. I thought he did a nice job, it was food. I wasnt there. But i thought he did a nice job. My children went, actually. Finally lets turn to the indiana primary on tuesday. We talked with ted cruz earlier and we will play that in the next segment, but here is how he posed the choice for voters in indiana. Here he is. You want a contrast of this entire race, it is donald and mike tyson, a convicted rapist versus me standing with Carly Fiorina and mike pence. Its interesting, the Cruz Campaign is making an issue of your support for mike tyson back during the time of the rape conviction in 1992. Your reaction to that . It just shows what a liar he is. So mike tyson over the internet endorsed me. He said i endorse mr. Trump. He said that. That was it. No big deal, i didnt have a meeting or anything, i havent seen mike in years but he said he endorsed me. Cruz is now saying he was a rapist. This guy is a real liar. Thats why we call him liesen ted cruz. I have Bobby Knights endorsement, we go around, in fact, im going right now after this show im going to indiana, we will have bobby knight, other people that are unbelievable and by the way, if you really take a look at mike pence, i think he gave me more of an endorsement than he gave cruz. He started off with donald trump and what a great job he has done. I mean, look, his donors and special interest obviously made him give an endorsement, but you know, chris, because youve covered it, most people think it was more of an endorsement for me than it was cruz. It was the weakest endorsement anyone has seen in a long time. Final 30 seconds. If you win indiana tuesday is this race over . Yes, its over. I think its over now, but its over. Cruz cannot win, he is a he got no highway, hes got nothing, hes way behind. Im leading him by millions and millions of votes and im leading him by 400 or 500 delegates. He cant win. Mr. Trump, thank you. Thanks for your time and thank you so much for coming in today, sir. Thank you very much. Happy anniversary. Thank you. Up next, its do or die for ted cruz in indiana. Well talk with him about the extraordinary steps he took this week to try to save his campaign. And as Fox News Sunday marks 20 years on the air well play some highlights. The first from an interview i did with the original host, tony snow, about a day none of us will ever forget. Good morning. Im tony snow and welcome to Fox News Sunday. Over the sevenplus years is there one show, one sunday that stands out . Right after september 11th. You choked up at the end. Yeah. Of course i did. A solitary candle, a flag, a tear, these are the tokens of our renewal. At the end i got choked up by saying were not going to lose and i get choked up even thinking about it now. Bend me shape me, any way you want me as long as you love me, its alright bend me shape me, any way you want me. Shape the best sleep of your life. Sleep number beds with Sleepiq Technology adjust any way you want it. The bed that moves you. Only at a sleep number store. A look outside the belt way at Notre Dame University in indiana. On tuesday voters in the Hoosier State go to the polls in a primary that senator ted cruz hopes wont be his last stand. I spoke with him yesterday about his effort to breathe new life into his campaign. Senator, i want to start with some of the unusual steps you took this week to shore up your campaign. First of all, your deal with john kasich where hes staying out of indiana and youre going to stay out of oregon and new mexico. You like to rail against the washington cartel, but isnt your deal with john kasich the essence of a cartel . Well, chris, good morning, its good to be with you. Thank you for having me and congratulations on your 20th anniversary as a show. Its always a pleasure to join you. Thank you. Listen, it is very simple, with kasich he made a decision about allocation of resources, i made a decision about allocation of resources. He decided to pull out of indiana to focus elsewhere, i made the decision to go all in on indiana and to focus on indiana and thats a natural thing, both of our campaigns did it from the perspective of where we thought we were best positioned to win and i will tell you what john kasich and i do agree on, we disagree on some policy issues, but we agree that Hillary Clinton would be disastrous as the next president of this country and that nominating donald trump ensures that Hillary Clinton wins. So neither one of us want to see donald trump as the nominee handing the general election to Hillary Clinton and thats why i am campaigning so hard in indiana to win the great state of indiana. But, sir, it is a deal, you would certainly agree. And i want to put up what you said about the deal this week. Here it is. I recognize that the media is all eager to talk about an alliance, there is no alliance. But shortly after john weaver, kasichs chief strategist tweeted this, i cant stand liars, clearly implying that it is an alliance and there was an agreement between the two camps. Listen, our focus is on winning indiana. I will tell you what the voters of indiana care about, they care about jobs, they care about bringing jobs back to america, they care about bringing manufacturing jobs back to america, they care about raising wages for working men and women who have been left in the cold. They care about ending this administrations war on coal which is wrong and immoral and they care about expanding opportunity for young people. That is my focus, we are barn storming the state. I have to say, chris, this has been an incredible week. In this past week we received just a couple days ago the support of indianas governor mike pence, an incredibly well respected strong conservative in indiana, we received just yesterday the support of former governor pete wilson in california, another strong leader that is a big deal in the state that i think is going to decide this whole thing. Obviously earlier this week we announced Carly Fiorina as my Vice President president ial nominee. That announcement has injected energy and momentum, people are excited ab

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