Becomes about us. And the last time it did this didnt work out too well for us. Rush limbaugh. Its a Fox News Sunday exclusive. Then a u. S. Hostage is killed by al qaeda during a failed rescue mission. But Hillary Clinton says smart power is showing respect for americas enemies. Trying to understand it insofar as psychologically possible empathize with their perspective and point of view. Our sunday Panel Discusses her controversial comments. Plus, republican president ial hopefuls begin to organize. Well talk with louisiana governor bobby jindal about his 2016 aspirations. All right now on Fox News Sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. First some breaking news. Republicans picked up their ninth senate seat last night in louisiana. Congressman bill cassidy swamped incumbent democrat Mary Landrieu in a Runoff Election bringing the new gop Senate Majority to 54 seats. Heres how senator landrieu reacted. The people of our state have spoken, and while we were working and hoping and praying for a different outcome, im so proud that our campaign was open and accessible to the voters. Joining us now from baton rouge, the newest member of the republican way, bill cassidy. And senator elect, congratulations and welcome to Fox News Sunday. Thank you, chris. Thank you for having me. Your big issue in this campaign was the fact that Mary Landrieu voted with barack obama 97 of the time. What do you think is the message that louisiana voters sent last night . It is the exclamation mark on the metsage the American People sent on november the 4th. The American People do not like the agenda that barack obama has staked out for our country. Nor do they like the effects of these policies, for example, obamacare, which continues to punish particularly lowwage workers. We were the exclamation mark on a message all of america has sent. This is really an amazing turnabout, the Democratic Party will now not have a single senator, governor, or straight legislator fromin the dooep south from the carolinas to your state of louisiana. Not one. I guess the question is whats the Democratic Partys problem . If theres one party for the working person right now, its the Republican Party. Its the Republican Party thats pushing the use of u. S. Natural resources to create american jobs. It is a Democratic Party trying to kill those jobs. So, for example, in the coal industry, they clearly have a war on coal. In the oil and gas industry, barack obama continues to impede our jobs with regulations. We are a working family region. The Republican Party is the party of the working family. All right. Now, as i say, youre senator elect. In january you become a senator. Whats your top priority, sir . Ive been working in the Public Hospital system for 25 years. Disclosu clearly the health care law, the obamaca obamacare law, is pounding the American People. One woman said im 56 years old, speaking of herself, no womb and no chirp, yet im paying for Obstetrical Services and pediatric dentistry and paying 400 more a month with a 6,000 deductible. People are upset about this law. We must do something about it. Can you do anything with barack obama in the white house still . A couple thinkigs about that. The Supreme Court is considering a case as to whether or not the administration is breaking law in terms of how they give subsidies. A plain reading of the law suggests they are. If the Supreme Court rules that the administration is breaking the law, it crashes in 30 someodd states. Secondly, when you have democrats like harkin and schumer saying that passing the law was a mistake, you also real ice theres a political dynamic building. The American People want something different. You strongly oppose along with a lot of other republicans the executive action that president obama took that will defer deportation for millions of people in this country illegally. It looks now like the plans by Republican Leaders in both the house and the senate is they will fund the entire government through next september but only fund the department of homeland security, which handles immigration, till either february or march. Are you okay with that . Ive been focused on december the 6th, on the face of it, i am. We have to consider this issue from a position of strength. Once republicans take the senate, well be in a position of strength. But allow me to look at it a little more carefully now that my election is over. Finally, where do you put yourself on the spectrum of republicans in the senate . If on one end youve got mitch mcconnell, who talks about seeking compromise and at the other end youve got ted cruise, who takes a much harder line, who will you be closest to in your approach . I represent the people of louisiana. And it is their concern which is uppermost. I take my lead from the interests of my state and the interests of our country. I dont necessarily align with myself with anybody. And it sounds Like Campaign rhetoric, it is from the heart. I am here to represent the people of louisiana, not to align with another senator. Senator elect cassidy, again, congratulations. Thank you. Thanks for taungi intalking wit well see you here in washington. Thank you, chris. Well speak with governor of louisiana bobby jindal later in the program. First, love him or hate him, hes the king of conservative talk radio. 20 Million People listen to him each week on close to 600 stations across the country. Rush limbaugh joins us now from his eib studio florida. Welcome back to Fox News Sunday. I think its been since 2009 i was here so its great to be back, chris. Thank you for having me. Well, were delighted to have you. Lets start with the protests across the country in the wake of the grand jury decisions not to indict those police officers. Do you think that those demonstrators have a legitimate beef with police and prosecutors . I think that there is a grievance politics in this country thats tearing the country apart, chris. I think what happens in the grand jury in ferguson, missouri, and what happens here in Staten Island does not warrant this because the grand jury rendered a correct verdict in ferguson. New york is a little bit different, but this would have a happened i think no malter what the grand jury in ferguson said. I think the real thing to note here is that this is tearing the country apart, literally ripping our fabric apart. And the president of the united states, one thing about him, hes a great or or the. You put the right words on the teleprompter and this man can deliver soaring, inspiring rhetoric. I ask you to remember his 2008 campaign in front of the styrofoam columns at denver during the convention speech. If he wants to, he can inspire. And i think its called for in this situation. This is not good for the country, whats happening here, because it isnt i dont think fullfledged legitimate. Its not based on realworld grievance. Its grievance thats being amplified and made up. The president , if you ask me, could do a lot to stop this by telling people to respect the criminal Justice System. Theres nothing here thats designed as they would have you believe to purposely get it wrong, to purposely screw people. Its not the case. And president s are supposed to be uplifting. Let me pick up on that because we have some sound both from president obama and from new york city mayor de blasio describing the situation. Here they are. This is an american problem. When anybody in this country is not being treated equally under the law, thats a problem. And its my job as president to help solve it. Our police are here to protect us, and we honor that. At the same time, theres a history we have to overcome because with so many of our young people theres a fair, and for so many of our families theres a fear. I want you to react to that, rush. But i want to put into that and one of the things that critics and some of the demonstrators cite is, for instance, that black drivers who are stopped at for a traffic stop are three times likely to be searched as white drivers. So what do you think of them as this perception of unfairness in the criminal Justice System . I dont think that things are rosy and perfect in america, but to say that theyre no better, as the mayor of new york said, thats absurd. Weve made all kinds of efforts to improve Race Relations in this country. The 1964 civil rights act, my affirmative action, we have bent over backwards. Is it all perfect . No its not. But theres no acknowledgment of any progress, chris. If you listen to these people, the president , the mayor of new york, you would think its 200 years ago. You would think we havent even started working on these problem, and thats not true. And i think for the president to promote this division as he just did in that clip that you said, and mischaracterize what happened here hes talking in large part about ferguson and what he described did not happen in ferguson, and what most of the media is describing did not happen in ferguson, missouri. There was no hands up, dont shoot. It didnt happen. And thats tearing this country apart. We have people to whom the truth is relative. And theyre using whatever power they have to try to redefine the truth for the advance of their own political agenda. And its just not productive. And the president taking sides in this in a way that further divides the country i find reprehensible and very unfortunate. Lets talk, though, about you talk about ferguson, and frankly i agree with you. I think thats a case where there was plenty of reasonable doubt about what officer wilson did. But lets talk about the eric garner case, which a lot of people think is different. In fact, at the beginning you said that you were troubled by what happened in the eric garner case, the heavy set back man who was taken down in Staten Island. Right. But you now say that he was not knot choked, it was not a choke hold. And i guess the question i have, and i ask this with all due respect, were friends, what are you talking about that its not a choke hold . Im listening to experts in the Police Department ts around the country that i know tell me its not a choke hold. Im listening to certain things ive head in the media quoting Police Officials and those who train police saying that this was not a choke hold. It might have been carotid restriction, but it was not a choke hold. But, chris, this all misses the point. What was eric garner doing . He was selling cigarettes, loose cigarettes. And the police in new york, because theyre so eager for tax collection, what is being done here with regard to taxes and the states desire to collect them no matter what, how many cops were descended on that situation . For cigarettes. How many people smoking marijuana did the cops pass by and ignore on the way to eric garner . Youve got 13 a carton, 13 a pack in new york city. Over 6 of that is taxes. And the authorities are telling the cops, you go out and you stop that because theyre so intent on collecting tax revenue. I think the real outrage here is that an american died while the state is enforcing tax collection on cigarettes. This is just absurd. And, you know, people talk about the left, they want a big state, they want a powerful state. Well, here it is. Youve got the take all of it. If you want a powerful state, theres your Police Force Acting on demands of the authority tots go out and make sure that every dime of tax is collected particularly from tobacco. Look how we stigmatize tobacco. To the point its so despised and reviled a guy loses his life selling single cigarettes in new york city. Its absurd. You talk about the role of the federal government. Attorney general holder has announced federal civil rights investigations in Staten Island of course. In ferguson and a number of other cities. Here he is describing that. Mr. Warners death is one of several recent incidents across our great country that have tested the sense of trust that must exist between Law Enforcement and the communities they are charged to serve. But you have on your program compared holder to the Terror Group Hamas and israel when he says that the police should not be an Occupying Force. How do you let me just ask my question. This will work better if i ask my question. Do you think there is a legitimate basis for federal civil rights investigation . Look, eric holder is the one who uses the word or the phrase Occupying Force to describe the new york pd. Thats the way this regime talks about israel. Im not putting these words in their mouth. Im not the one whos saying them. But i do think we have to honestly interpret and analyze and honestly hear what they are saying. This the idea that we need civil Rights Violations from the federal government, this is promoting the division. We need i hear all these civil rights leaders say, chris, that we need to start the healing. Nobodys doing that. There are too many people profiting off of this strife. There are too many people promoting it, too many people making a living, making money off this racial divide, not doing a thing to we had the first black president elected. You know how many people voted for this guy hoping and thinking this kind of thing was over . Its worse, chris. It has gotten worse. And one of the reasons why, no criticism, legitimate criticism of the president is permitted because hes africanamerican and its all chalked up to racism, which nullifies critics, shuts them down. Nobody wants to be called that. This is i want to switch subjects. I hate to move you along because i love listening to you, but i do want to move on to another subject. So do i. I do. One of the reasons we wanted to talk to you is because recently you have been going, talking about criticism, youve been criticizing fox news for some of the commentary here that says that the republicans and congress should not shut down the government over their opposition to the executive action on immigration that the president took. First of all, whats wrong with the republican plan not to shut down the government, and what would you do . Because, a, it isnt a Government Shutdown. They shut down 15 , 10 of it . Its not a Government Shutdown. Were losing the language. It keeps running. Welfare checks keep going out. Its a diversion and a trick. I know time is short. Let me cut to the chase here. 2010, republican landslide win, democrat landslide loss. Ditto 2014. The democrats have been shellacked in two recent elections, and the republicans are running around like a poll saying the American People are not going to like them if they shut down the government is absurd. Barack obamas approval is in the 30s. This isnt about a Government Shutdown. This is about two elections in which the people of this country are begging the Republican People to stop this man. Let me counter that, russ, because i want to put up a poll which shows that after the october shutdown, october of last year over obamacare, forgive me, lets put it up on the screen, 53 blamed the gop while 31 blamed president obama. And i would argue all right. Let me just finish and i would argue that the republicans despite that, not because of the shutdown, and because as you say obama had a series of disasters, whether it was the obamacare rollout i did not say they won because of the shutdown. Im saying it didnt hurt them. They won a landslide election ten months after this socalled the only thing that happened in that shutdown was barack obama closed the Vietnam Veterans memorial to the world war ii memorial, the world war ii vets who for maybe the only time in their lives are going to visit it and opened it to some proimmigration demonstrators. Shut down the white house tours. The exit polls and i know the republicans won, russ, but in the exit polls, and lets put this up on the screen that does not matter. Wait, wait, wait. You keep talking polls to me and ive got the essence of a poll is an election, and ive got two of them. And we would have won the white house in 2012 if 4 million republicans hadnt stayed home. My point is they won in spite of the shutdown not because of the shutdown. What does it matter . They won. The point is this is a trick. I think the shutdowns a trick. Heres what it really means, chris, that republicans want what obama wants on immigration, and they are using the Government Shutdown as an excuse to not stop him because the truth of matter is they agree with him. Romney agrees with it, jeb bush agrees with it, obviously the republican establishment doesnt want to stop obama on do you think john boehner and Government Shutdowns, oh, we cant act because theyll blame us. Theyll be mad at us for shutting down the government. Its absurd. I think its ridiculous. And the American People are being let down here. Theyre voting, expressing their desires, they want this stuff stopped and the Republican Party is not listening. A