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Mary j. Blige, and featuring the legendary roots crew. Questlove 665. Yeah. Steve and now, here he is, jimmy fallon [ cheers and applause ] jimmy come on. I love it so much. Hello, hi. How you doing . How you doing . Looking good. Im good, how are you . [ cheers and applause ] hi, everybody, welcome. Welcome [ cheers and applause ] thank you so much. Im feeling good. Welcome everybody, welcome to the tonight show. This is it, baby, you made it. Youre here. Thank you. [ cheers and applause ] heres what people are talk about, you guys. Im told that President Trump d wondered why the civil war ever happened. [ light laughter ] then education secretary betsy devos said, thats easy, captain america and iron man got in a big fight. [ laughter ] thats not. Stop it both of you, stop it. Not only that, trump also said that Andrew Jackson was really angry about the civil war, but Andrew Jackson actually died 16 years before it started. [ laughter ] some said hell apologize to jackson when they play golf together next week. [ applause ] so that hell hell take care of it. Dont worry about it. Actually i saw that trump defended all his trips that hes made to his golf courses, saying that he only goes there to hold meetings. Even guys who go to hooters for the wings were like, yeah, right. [ light laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] best wings, man spicy trumps keeping busy, in fact i read that he invited the leader of thailand to visit the white house. But trump thinks thailand is just a clothing chain that sells really long ties. [ laughter do you have anything in red that goes down to my toes . Thank you very much. [ laughter ] actually actually i think i think. Heres i think trump ties his tie normal and he looks in the mirror and he goes, that looks great. Then he goes, now lets go to work [ unintelligable ] [ laughter ] its a posture thing. Its a posture thing if anything. I read that trump is actually giving tours of the white house. Yeah, of course a lot of his visitors have questions on their tours so trump tries his best to answer them. For example when someone asks who planted the roses in the rose garden . Trump says, Chris Harrison from the bachelor. Steve wow. Jimmy hes trying to guess steve yeah. Jimmy when somebody asks, what happens in the treaty room, trump says, well when im good all day i go there and i get a a treaty. [ laughter ] today i had a fruit by the foot. Steve really . Jimmy he goes thats not why they call it the treaty room. Steve thats not why they call it [ barking ] jimmy donald, stop barking. Finally when visitors ask what kind of dishes you use for state dinners, trump says only the finest china. There you go. China. Jimmy were learning more about how trumps been holding up in the white house. In fact a senior official says that when you go in to meet with trump you dont need to make a power point, or bring a a bunch of paperwork, but a a sock puppet cant hurt. I mean he loves hes a a sucker for it. [ laughter ] pretty well known that trump doesnt trust the media. He actually had a pretty awkward interview with cbs just this weekend, and it turns out the only person hell allow himself to be interviewed by is himself. Its true, take a look at this, latest congratulations, donald, well done. Thank you. Youre a great competitor and very strong and very smart. Thank you. Jimmy there you go. Isnt that great . [ cheers and applause ] right . Youve very good. Youre very powerful. Youre very sexy. [ laughter ] oh this is a goody. I read that a hacker leaked the first ten episodes of orange is the new black. Americans are likec okay, you can mess with our elections, but now youve gone too far. Dont mess with orange is the w and finally everyone is talking about this fyre, is that how you pronounce it . Fyre . Steve yeah. Jimmy fy fyre Music Festival . Questlove yeah. Jimmy did you hear about this Music Festival in the bahamas, it was a disaster. That was a big disaster. The bands didnt show up, nothing was ready. Now the organizers are being sued for 100 million. [ audience ohs ] when asked how theyre going to raise the money they said, how about a Music Festival . Anyways, no. We have a great show tonight, give it up for the roots, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy i like that. Is that the George Benson version . Questlove on broadway, yeah. Jimmy yeah, yeah, yeah. Were you surprised that the crowd were that they didnt soul clap . Questlove they didnt soul clap this time. Jimmy but you thought did you thth jimmy me too. Cause usually our audience goes if you play it, play it again. [ clapping ] its a lot of work. Thats it. Thats what im talking about. Yeah, thats good right there. It is a soul clap. Push it up baby. Push it up. Questlove soul clap. Jimmy thats the thing that i love. They always keep my guessing. They always push it up. The audience. Yeah, you guy can do whatever you want. Im happy. Im happy. Guys, chris rock will be on the show tomorrow. Steve come on. Jimmy so be sure to tune in. [ cheers and applause ] hes my favorite dude. I love it when that guy, hes the funniest guy. But, tonight we have an unbelievable show. She is an icon. Oh, i just met her backstage. Im freaking out. She stars alongside amy schumer in the new film snatched, goldie hawn is here. Goldie hawn is here. [ cheers and applause ] plus, from the new netflix movie small crimes Nikolaj Costerwaldau is right here. [ cheers and applause ] also the host of the record setting podcast, stown. Im not going to give any spoilers on it. Steve no spoilers. Jimmy nothing, im barely going to talk about it, but i cant wait to talk to him. Brian reed is stopping by. Steve yeah [ cheers and applause ] jimmy have you have you listened to it yet . Steve yes, ive listened to the entire thing. Im not going to tell you anything. Jimmy alright except jimmy no. Dont, dont, dont. Higgins i higgins. Questlove are you no. No. Questlove not yet. Jimmy you havent havent listened to it yet. Questlove i know about it, yeah. Jimmy but im obsessed with this im obsessed with stown. Ive only done two episodes so far. But anyways, thats all you need. Its unbelievable. So get whatever you listen to your what do you listen to it on . Steve on my iphone. Jimmy do you have an app . Steve yeah, i have an app called podcast. [ laughter ] press a button. Jimmy is there an app called podcast . Steve yeah. Jimmy i dont use that. Steve what do you use . Jimmy its called overcast or something. Steve overcast . Jimmy yeah, its a weather app. Steve cloudy with a chance of meat balls. Jimmy it tells you the weather, yeah. Exactly, yeah. Oh, my gosh, so i cant believe saving the best for last. Are you kidding me . We have music from mary j. Blige is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] oh, my god steve wow. Jimmy i love mary j. Blige. Guys, it is time for tonight show kid letters, here we go. Tonight show kid letters kid letters tonight show jimmy we get letters from kids all over the world. They send us ideas, jokes, suggestions for the show. Theyre always great. So i wanted to share some with you right now. These are real letters from real kids. We did not make this up. First letter comes from autumn. Shes 7 years old. She said, dear jimmy, my family and i love your shows. You look like peewee. [ laughter ] steve aw, so sweet. Jimmy but not your hair, and my mommy wants to marry you, i think. I am weird just like you. [ laughter ] thats me, right there. Thats a good drawing. [ laughter ] jimmy this one is from harry. Hes age 7. To jimmy fallon, my name is harry, and im from england, and no, not harry potter, but i can do some magic. I know about your show because my sister is a fal pal. You are really funny. Lets cut to the chase. [ laughter ] i got no american friends. Will you be my baf, best american friend . P. S. , im 7. Also rawr. Steve yeah. Jimmy harry, i will be your best friend. Steve yeah. Jimmy right now. [ cheers and applause ] thanks, buddy. Steve rawr. Jimmy rawr. Oh, this is great. This ones from eisley and maggie, ages 4 and 5. Already i im such a mush now. Im a dad. Awe cute. Steve going to start crying. Jimmy but listen to listen to what they wrote. Good evening, jimmy poo. Eisley and maggie here. We are 4 and 5. We like a triangle because it has three sides, and if you put legs on it, and eyes, and mouth, and nose it is funny, and arms. Heres a drawing of you as a a triangle. Look at this. Look at this. [ laughter ] thats us hanging out. Steve yeah. Thats maggie and eisley. Its an isosceles. Jimmy thank you eisley poo and maggie poo. This next one is from grayson, hes 7 years old. He wrote us a joke. Steve oh good. Jimmy sent in a joke, lets see what it is. Dear jimmy, its raining cats and dogs in ohio, do you know how i know . I stepped in a poodle. [ cheers and applause ] there you go. Grayson, i like it. We should hire that kid. Grayson from ohio. This next ones from maddie, shes 9 years old. Dear jimmy, hi i am maddie, im 9. I love your show. I want you to do something. My brother is really mean to me, when you read this letter say james, stop being a butt to maddie for me, thanks, bye now. Funny. [ light laughter ] james, if youre watching, james, can we zoom in . Stop being a butt to maddie [ cheers and applause ] steve jiminy cricket. Jimmy grow up she could have made the whole thing up. I dont know. Okay, this is a long one. Its from kelly. Shes 10 years old. She said, hey, i love your show. I love your tv show, youre awesome. I like you, and that guy who stands by the microphone. [ light laughter ] steve aw. Jimmy you two make me laugh. You should give the guy who stands at the microphone a a seat. His legs must get tired. [ laughter ] steve yeah. Jimmy anyway. Anyway, im in fifth grade, and i like manatees, llamas, and elephants. I really like Pusheen Pusheen the cat. I drew you a picture of you as pusheen on the back. I hope your show goes well. Im 10 years old. What do you like . Have a good day. Lets look at that drawing of me as pusheen the cat. I dont know i dont know that cat. [ cheers and applause ] is that a famous cat . I dont know that cat. It looks cool whatever it is. Well, to answer your question at the end, what do i like . Pizza, and yeah. You bring up a good point. We should give higgins a chair. Can we get a chair for higgens steve . Steve . Steve oh my gosh. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy take a seat. Enjoy yourself. Perfect. Thats fantastic. Steve love it. Jimmy its great . Steve fantastic. I had a cramp earlier, now jimmy you let me know if i need anything, buddy. Steve can i get some water . Jimmy no. Were down to our last one here. This ones from leah. Look at this. It says, hey bro, can you dance . Because i love to dance. Can you do the nae nae . Because i can. [ cheers and applause ] i dont think i can do the nae nae. Want me do the nae nae . [ cheers ] is that the nae nae . Is that the nae nae . Can you do it . Thats all the time we have for kid letters. [ cheers and applause ] thank you to all the kids who sent the letters in. To send letters in to be read on the show email them to kidletters tonightshow. Com. Stick around, well be right back with goldie hawn, everybody. Why are you sitting there . Go sit over there. [ cheers and applause ] party up party [beatbox vocals] youre gonna rock the party mathat are 100 from dennys. Rs starting at 6. 99, which is 100 awesome. 100 beef burgers with fries starting at 6. 99. 100 seriously. Fromi wanted to seeved, this great country. My last wish is for you to do it for me, as a family. Love, grandpa. Let us be lovers, well marry our fortunes together older grandaughter itll be alright. I know. Grandson how did you meet grandpa . Grandmother actually on a blind date. [ laughter ] i wish he was on the trip with us. Hes sitting right between the boys in the back of the car. America all come to look for america all come to look for america lifes as big as you make it. The allnew 7seater volkswagen atlas with americas best bumpertobumper limited warranty. Can you say i love it . Oh love it . Can you say hey . Hey thats the spirit oooooh. Ooh ooh wooo wooo sing sing, baby baby i love you. Oh yes. Ooooh oooh. Everything little thing. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy our first guest is an Academy Award and golden globewinning actress costarring with amy schumer in the new comedy film snatched, which opens friday, may 12th. Please welcome the very talented, the very lovely, goldie hawn [ cheers and applause ] jimmy hey that is so awesome. Way to go to play that. Jimmy i know, of course. I mean, the roots, they put the thought into it. Come on. They really did. Jimmy they really do. Im happy to meet you. Im so happy youre here. I know, me too. Jimmy i love you. Youre one of my alltime favorites. And i know your daughter pretty well. I know. Jimmy kate hudson. You know her really well. Jimmy i do, but i never met you. But i love her. I love your whole family. Thank you so much. Jimmy thank you so much for being here. I miss you in movies. Oh, honey jimmy im so happy youre back. We miss you. [ cheers and applause ] when was the last one . Was it what was the last movie . Jimmy yeah. Banger sisters. Jimmy how long has it been . Its been 15 years. Jimmy 15 years. [ audience ohs ] can you believe it . I cant believe it. I really cant. It flew by. But i was doing something i cared about so much that my life just went into a whole different direction. And and im so excited about it. I decided to create a a program so people that, oh you left show business, right . Well, i produced and i wrote and did all that. Jimmy you did everything. I decided to produce, basically, a script and a story for children for school. And it has given them [ cheers and applause ] thank you. Jimmy how cool. What is it . Its called mind up. Its over 2 million children now in the world doing it. And its how to regulate their emotions, how to find more happiness in the classroom, and to understand how their brains work. And i think we should teach every child, everybody how their brains work. What is the neurobiology . If we say to a child, hey use your brain. They go, yeah, but whats what is it, right . [ light laughter ] so were doing that and its really exciting. Jimmy mind up. Mind up. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy thank you. I love that. I have so many questions for you but i really want to know we got to go fast. Jimmy i know, i know, i know. I know. We do. But i want to know about laugh its did you start as an a a comedian or an actor or dancer . I was a dancer. Since 3yearsold i studied ballet. And then i went to jazz. And then, i got a job here in new york. And i got a job at the worlds fair. And i had a real big job. It was like amazing. I was so happy. Jimmy what do you do at the worlds fair . I did the cancan above the bar. [ light laughter ] jimmy that is so cool come on. [ cheers ] yeah, i did. I was at the texas pavilion. It was awesome. And you know, i was jumping and kicking and doing all this. And whatever. And then, i went bus and trucked. I did all kinds of theater. And then, i went down to puerto rico and i danced in a a club there for a while. And i came back. I had you know, have dance shoes, will travel. I was a gypsy. Jimmy you just wherever you went you were just a a dancer. Yeah, thats what i wanted to do and thats where i wanted to go and i wanted to dance on tv. And eventually i did. But thats where i was picked out of a chorus line. An agent came up to me and he said, gee do you have an agent . And i said, no, i dont. And i [ light laughter ] so i literally forgot about it. You know . Jimmy is he hitting me . No he wants to be my agent. I forgot about it. But then i got a call from williammorrison. They said, where are you . And i went oh, my god, you mean it was really serious . And i drove there. And i got signed. And then i got my First Television show. Jimmy and which was [ cheers ] was it the laugh in . No, it was called good morning world. Jimmy really . Yeah. Jimmy what was a was good morning world now . It was a threecamera show. And it was done on the desilu studio lot. And it was like great. It had those were the times they gave you 26 weeks. So i did that and then George Schlatter came on the show. And i think billy wilder called him and said you should look at this girl for whatever reason, because she is crazy or whatever. [ light laughter ] and i ended up doing laugh in. Jimmy i mean but then, you do laugh in and then was it immediate that you became like americas sweetheart . Because we love you. Youre goldie hawn. [ cheers and applause ] but it happened fast. You know . Jimmy what do you remember like the first time . And it was it was like like no, i dont. But i do remember going around with my mom and people would introduce and go, oh, its goldie hawn or whatever. And to my mom would say, how do you feel about your daughter being on laugh in and being a a star . And my mom says, well, i have another daughter, you know. [ light laughter ] so its how i was raised. Jimmy thats interesting. You figure and ill tell you, this is more on a more serious note. When people get to notice you right away and youre 22 years old its a brain, you know what. I mean, you dont know what is going on. Jimmy right. And i learned that everybody sees you from their perspective. They dont see you. They see how they project on you. And it really helped me not buy into love or buy intte buy into good reviews. I just sort of put one foot in front of the other and did my life. Jimmy gosh. [ cheers and applause ] you did it well. You did it well. You did it well. Youve done everything. From comedy to drama to winning awards to producing. I mean, you are one of the first actors out there to produce and make great stuff. Thank you, sweetheart. Jimmy im so happy to have you here now. And im so happy youre back. Snatched. You and amy schumer. Yep. Jimmy i mean, come on. I know. Jimmy this is a perfect combo. It was so perfect jimmy its a perfect combo. I mean i cant believe it. You know, because i started feeling kind of an itch. You know, like i wanted to, like i thought, i wondered if i will i ever make people laugh again . Meaning [ light laughter ] jimmy yes. And you always do. You continue to. I know, i mean, but you know what i mean . Jimmy yeah. But anyway, amy came over. So i met her and i looked into it and we together made it happen. Jimmy well, you score [ cheers and applause ] you got to do one of the best seen on film. It was a great spit take. I dont want to ruin the joke okay. Jimmy but man, its great. Its really good. I want to show a clip. Heres goldie hawn and amy schumer. Oh, i should explain what the movie is about. Oh, yeah. Jimmy yeah. She decides to take her mom her date bails, her boyfriend breaks up with her. Yep. Jimmy she has no one to go to ecuador . Yep. Jimmy and so she asks you to go with her. And so its a momdaughter trip and it just gets crazy. Yeah and we get snatched. Jimmy you get kidnapped. You get snatched. Yes. Hence the title, snatched, here we go, goldie hawn and amy schumer in snatched. Take a look at this. Put this on. What is this . What . That is a rape rape whistle. Thats a rape whistle. This is a dog whistle, mom. Oh, well are you afraid these dogs are gonna rape me . Can i can i just see that . Will you look at the dogs . All these dogs, do they look like rapists to you . Whatever. Why dont you just say, thank you, mom . Thank you. Im getting raped by a dog. [ dog barking ] oh, my god it works. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy come on goldie hawn, everybody [ cheers and applause ] snatched hits theaters may 12th. Well be right back with Nikolaj Costerwaldau. Stick around, everybody [ cheers and applause ] thit was shaping up to be a most miserable day. But then, destiny struck. Did may imagine april showers bringing her fashionable, flowers at such a sunny price . Never but thats the beauty of a store full of surprises. You never know what youre gonna find, but you know youre gonna love it. Marshalls. Your surprise is waiting. Im dr. Kelsey mcneely and some day you might be calling me an energy farmer. 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Weve reduced Carbon Emissions by nearly 25 , which is the equivalent of taking close to two million cars off the road. Cleaner air and cleaner water. Its good for all of us. Dominion. Depend on us for more than energy. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy our next guest plays Jaime Lannister on game of thrones. And [ cheers and applause ] and now you can see him starring in the new film small crimes, which is streaming worldwide on netflix right now. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Nikolaj Costerwaldau [ cheers and applause ] thank you. Jimmy you look great. Thank you. Jimmy you look studly as ever, always, yes. [ cheers ] yes, always looks dapper always a dapper gentleman. Always dapper. Jimmy very dapper. I want to say congratulations [ laughter ] thats what you get everywhere. Thats new york. Jimmy it happens. Its new york. Yeah, you got to expect it. I got to say congratulations on game of thrones. You won so many emmys. Its the most awarded emmy award emmy awarded show in history. Yeah, i know. Its crazy. Jimmy i mean, you beat out frasier. I know. I cant believe it. Im sure that there was a time when Kelsey Grammer went into the writers room and said, we need some dragons. [ light laughter ] jimmy yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. We need more dragons. We need more dragons. Jimmy yeah. Is it true that your wife has never seen an episode of game of thrones . I dragged her to the premiere of the first, and since then, no. But she keeps promising that shell sit down with a friend and watch it. [ lighug jimmy how is she getting away with this . Its its fine. Im not how can you you cant, like, say, you got to watch me. Jimmy no, yeah. Thats horrible. [ light laughter ] you cant do that. Jimmy thats what i tell my wife. I mean, i put it on [ light laughter ] if she doesnt watch it at night, i put it on in the morning. I go, hey, we got to watch the show. Were having breakfast and watching this now. Its streaming. Oh, no. Jimmy exactly. Yeah, yeah. I want to talk about small crimes. Yes. Jimmy its on netflix, which couldnt be a hotter thing. Oh, my gosh, netflix. They just no, its amazing. If a movie like that, its just you know, suddenly, its worldwide, 190 countries. Its a small, independent movie. Its were so happy. Were lucky. Jimmy yeah, and tell me about it, small crimes. Well, its about this guy, joe denton. Hes a disgraced cop. He serves six years in prison. He kind of tried to kill the local d. A. [ light laughter ] but now jimmy kind of. Yeah, maybe. Well, he yeah. Jimmy well, youll see. Yeah. In his world, he didnt. But now hes turned a corner, and hes gonna, you know you think its a redemption story. And it is in the beginning, but, you know, its difficult to change. But its so, its a black comedy. Jimmy and its based on a its based on a novel, yeah, small crimes. We had a we had it was just an amazing script, great actors. Jimmy i heard you were a a real diva on set. Really hard, really difficult, really demanding it was very demanding. Yeah, it was so embarrassing. Jimmy you have to tell this story. Its great. Well, its, like, this was a a low budget movie. So, everyone worked on scale. And we all, you know, work under the same conditions. The trailers were tiny, but we were all in this together. Now, my trailer, my dressing room i mean, were shooting in montreal. It was so hot. The a. C. Didnt work. They send a guy over. It still didnt work. On day three, i asked production, i said, we got to fix this. And then they call the company, and they say, we are going to pull our business if you dont fix this. And then, they say, okay so, they send out this monster of a trailer. [ light laughter ] jimmy look at this thing. This is just j that is the other guys. This is where the jimmy this is your trailer. I know. [ laughter ] jimmy it says v. I. P. On the side. [ laughter ] what is how do you live this down . You cant. And, like listen, we have, like we have so many actors come through. So, we had Academy Award nominees. You know, Robert Forster comes, and hes got like a tiny room there. [ light laughter ] i have to go and apologize every morning. Im like, you dont its not i didnt mean for this to happen. [ light laughter ] it was it was jimmy and theyre like, yeah, right. Yeah, exactly, at that point. Jimmy i just love this. Yeah. Jimmy i want to show everyone a clip. Heres the clip of small crimes. Look, phil, this is not how i want one of those young men is in intensive care. The one with the nunchucks . His father is an alderman. Charge me. Put those ass[ bleep ] on the stand and watch him come apart like wet bread, because you know exactly what this is. Theyre parked in the middle girlfriend happens to get assaulted. Come on. Be serious. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy come on. Nikolaj costerwaldau, everybody [ cheers and applause ] small crimes is streaming now on netflix. 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Say hello to brian reed, everyone. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy brian reed, everybody, come on. Oh, my goodness. So, lets talk about stown. It comes out, 10 million downloads on the first four days of release. Thats, that so ive heard, yes. Its crazy. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy made a little history. No big deal. Did you think it was going to be explode like this . You cant plan this stuff . No. No, not at all. No, i was, like, writing it on my Kitchen Table and, like, going down to alabama and staying at a best western behind a waffle house. Jimmy yeah, yeah. I did not think people would hear it. Jimmy just hearing your voice, its kind of odd for me, because i dont know. I didnt put a face to the voice. Im just so into you have a a great voice. Thank you very much. Its odd to be on this side of the microphone. Im used to doing this to you. Jimmy oh, yeah. We could switch if you want. [ light laughter ] i would be happy to. Id feel much more comfortable. Jimmy how long does it take to work into Something Like this . I have never done Something Like this before. But this took, like, three years. Jimmy yeah. Yeah. Jimmy the work put into it. I mean, its just so well done. Thank you. Jimmy from the people that this is correct, the people who produced serial or no . Yes. I created it with julie snyder, serial with sarah koenig. And then i work for this American Life. So its a coproduction of this American Life and serial. Jimmy how does this guy how does [ applause ] how does john b. How does john b. Is it mclemore . John b. Mclemore. Jimmy how does he contact you . How did you get in how did you get in touch with the guy who this is kind of about . He was a listener hes a a listener to this American Life. And one day, i was just reading you know, we get we have a listener email account. People who write us after theyve heard stories to say like, oh, i love this story, or, i hated this story, or, your voice sounds weird, or, you know, you said a mean thing about an animal, and im deeply offended, and im never gonna listen again. [ light laughter ] those are, like what those emails are. Jimmy yeah, exactly, yeah. Sorry about that email, by the way. [ laughter ] we can do entire but anyway, so its that email account. And so, its mostly those. We dont usually get tips to that email account, but there was one email caught my eye that just said, the subject line john b. Mclemore lives in [ bleep ]town, alabama. And so, i was like, well, ill take a look at that email. Jimmy weird, yeah. And he was basically saying, i lived in this town in i desperately hate it here, but ive never left. You guys should come down and investigate some of the stuff that is happening. And, in particular, he mentioned a murder that he said had happened that a local guy allegedly had allegedly gotten away with and was bragging about. And so we started talking about maybe investigating that murder. Jimmy because it got covered up, and we dont know. Yes. Jimmy well, im only in episode two. No spoilers for everyone, and i would never do that to you. No way. Yeah. Jimmy i would never do that. But i got to say, man, this is a fascinating subject. Thank you. Jimmy and this guy is a a fascinating person. You really get in there. I mean, there youre going to, like, tattoo parlors and go into back rooms. Yeah. Jimmy i mean, its you really hung with the i mean, this guy has a great voice, too. Hes like yeah. Well, i mean, once i Start Talking to john, it was just, like yeah, theres a murder, but also, who are you . Jimmy who . You know, and jimmy hes so interesting. Hes fascinating. Jimmy he built a maze . Hes one of the most fascinating people yeah, he built a maze in his backyard that you can see on google earth. He says its the only one in alabama. So are gates inside. He designed this himself. And you turn the gates different ways, and it creates different permutations, 64 different permutations of the solution. Including one solution with no exit. [ light laughter ] which conveniently jimmy conveniently. Which weirdly metaphorically convenient jimmy it almost passes to you. When youre writing a story. Jimmy when you are in the maze with him, youre like, uh, oh. Im worried. Yeah. Jimmy im scared for your life at one point. [ light laughter ] a couple points. I go i just but you got to explain to me one and this is, again, not a this is not a spoiler. At one point, are you in his basement or his workshop or something . Um, he is an antiquarian horologist, which im sure you know what that is. Jimmy a horse . Something to do with a horse . [ light laughter ] he collects horses . Hes a, um jimmy he makes mazes . Yeah. Jimmy hes a maze maker . Keep going. Jimmy its something to do with a clocks, right . Yeah, hes an antique clock restorer. Horology which i didnt know this term before, again, before i knew john its the study of time, anyone who studies time or time pieces. So, he is fixing, like, really beautiful, strange old clocks, hundreds of years old, and you know, in the middle of the woods in alabama. Hes one of the best in the world. And, um, and, so, were in his clock shop one day. Um, and, yeah jimmy did you find it weird what he did to you . I mean, no. He didnt do anything. [ laughter ] no, its almost, like, a magic trick. Sorry. It was a magic trick. What he did he goes he goes, you got any loose change . Or Something Like that. Yeah, we was like, hey, you got any change . I was like, uh, yeah, sure. I thought we were investigating a murder, but whatever. He was drinking some wild turkey that day. [ light laughter ] yeah, just 2 00 on a tuesday or whatever. Jimmy totally normal. And his friend, tyler, was there sharpening a chainsaw at the same time. Jimmy i mean, im serious. This is really happening. And jimmy his buddys sharpening a chainsaw. Yeah. Jimmy and youre in his workshop . Yeah. Jimmy okay. Its just yeah. Jimmy but then, you give him a dime. Yes, he asked if i had any change. I pulled a dime out of my pocket, which i actually have if you want to jimmy id love to see it. I actually have it, right here. Jimmy lets tell the story. Okay. Jimmy wait, i want to see it, though. But but, do you want to want to see it. Story, then see it . Jimmy okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah. Because its fascinating. So yeah, yeah, were jimmy he pulls out a bucket or something. Yeah, so he was, like, you have any change . I pull a dime out of my pocket. Jimmy yep. Hes like, im gonna gold plate a dime for you. And he starts kind of is running around the work shop like a mad scientist, basically. He gets a bucket. He pours all sorts of chemicals in it, talking about, like, chelating agents. I have no idea what hes talking about. Jimmy this to me goes, im in a dateline episode. I mean, this is, like [ laughter ] yeah. Jimmy youre pouring a a bucket of acid. Youre going to throw it on me and burn the evidence. Yeah. Jimmy youll never this is how i die. Thats what i would say. I think my mind went there a a little bit. Jimmy okay. But and then he hooked it up. So, he took my dime. He dropped it in his bucket of chemicals. There was like he had cyanide in there and other things, gold, some kind of gold. And then he hooked up a car battery, naturally. Jimmy how would you even figure this out at all . Yeah. Jimmy or he knows ran the wires into the bucket and then amped it up and out came the dime which was gold. Jimmy can i see the dime . Yeah. Yeah. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy take a look at that. Show it to the camera, camera one right here. Look at this thing. [ audience oohs ] yeah. Jimmy i mean, that is pretty cool. [ applause ] thats the real one. Jimmy i didnt even know you could do that. Me neither. Jimmy it just the guy yeah. Jimmy hes just fascinating. Yeah, hes really jimmy i mean, everything he talking about. Believes in global warming, anti like, what are we going to do to save the earth . Hes passionate, so passionate about that. Mmhmm. Jimmy and what im getting from it is that he just he is so mad that no one is doing stuff about it, like people are just kind of shrugging. Yeah. Jimmy and going, well, i guess thats happening. Yeah. It enrages him. Jimmy it really does. Yeah. Jimmy but its also something i dont know. Something sad about him too, a a little bit. Like, he is very hes very kind of negative a lot. But it also a bit when hes talking about time pieces, hes talking about a a sun dial. And there was this, this, like, saying or something etched in, is that true . Yeah, exactly, no. Something else i learned from john i didnt know. So, sun dials often have sayings or mottos theyre called sun dial mottos etched in them in latin or english. So things, like, tedious and brief is one. Jimmy i mean, that just really just kind of mournful mottos about time. Yeah. Jimmy tedious and brief. Yeah. [ light laughter ] actually, and after meeting john, i started noticing them in the world. So, i was at like some mission, like, at a museum kind of in california. I found one next to a grave. There was a sun dial. And i was like, oh, i know to look for the motto, like, because this because john told me. And i look and it says in latin, like [ speaking latin ] which i looked up later, this is no good. Ive lost a day. [ light laughter ] sitting next to a grave. [ laughter ] jimmy wow. Yeah, just uplifting things like that. [ laughter ] jimmy has it changed you . Has it changed jimmy has it changed your life . Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. Jimmy what did you take from it . What did you like you were saying about just, i mean, john kind of bears the weight of the injustices small and large. So, you know, very local injustices in his small town of, like, a thousand or 2,000 people in alabama. You know, people feeling you know, people in poverty, people feeling beat down by the court system. And then climate change, like the biggest problem were facing as a globe, and he kind of treats them all the same. And, i dont know, what id say i learn from him is, like, to actually feel outraged about those things and to kind of kick each other in the ass and say, lets fix some of this stuff. Lets not, like [ cheers and applause ] yeah. Jimmy yeah, exactly. Climate change, yeah. Lets do it. Jimmy im so thankful you did this. Again, i didnt give away any spoilers away except for the dime. I appreciate it. Thank you. 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[ cheers and applause ] jimmy welcome back, everybody she is a ninetime grammy award winning, golden globe nominated artist whose new album, strength of a woman, is out now, performing love yourself with a little help from the roots, give it up for mary j. Blige [ cheers and applause ] its been a long ride i made it here with love i made it here with love love said i been up and down and ive been through it all took a while to know my heart oh yes it has yes before a love like this you go through the fire and valley lows but if you just hold on please hold on this love is strong itll save you please hold on itll save ya truth can be the sweetest pain it could mess up everything its the only way i know im paying for it im changing for it oh oh and it hurts but ill make it work cause im no beginner paid dues i know my purpose thought they put my life on hold but i knew something they didnt know i know myself too much to ever fold dark clouds im moving past you whoa you gotta love yourself if you really wanna be with somebody else you gotta feed yourself before you feed somebody else you gotta stay open and dont be foolish cause everybody dont mean you well you gotta love yourself before you love somebody else i dont feel no ways tired cant get restless in my soul hold your heart the world is cold keep singing dont ya start praying on it it will come to pass dont worry about nothing god knows that youre you deserve it cant nothing else hurt ya thought they put my life on hold but i knew something they didnt know i know myself too much to ever fold dark clouds im moving past you whoa you gotta love yourself if you really wanna be with somebody else you gotta feed yourself before you feed somebody else you gotta stay open and dont be foolish cause everybody dont mean you well you gotta love yourself before you love somebody else thank you. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy thats mary j. Blige that is how you do it strength of a woman is out now. Well be right back, everybody that was just [ cheers and applause ] this is another snack. Ohhhh, is that hersheys chocolate . Theyre all snack brothers from the same snack mother. Its hersheys snack mix filled with pretzels, almonds, and, hersheys chocolate. Boomsnackalaka. Hersheys and reeses snack mix snacks on snacks on snacks. [ cheers and applause ] jimmy my thanks to goldie hawn, Nikolaj Costerwaldau, brian reed, mary j. Blige [ cheers and applause ] come on. And the roots, right there, from philadelphia, pennsylvania. Stay tuned for late night with seth meyers. Thank you for watching. Have a great night. I really hope to see you tomorrow, byebye, everybody [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] from 30 Rockefeller Plaza in new york, its late night with seth meyers. Tonight, america ferrera. From snatch, actor ike barinholtz. Featuring the 8g band with josh dion. Ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. [ cheers and applause ] seth good evening, everybody. Im seth meyers. This is late night. How is everybody doing tonight . [ cheers and applause ] so good to hear. So good to hear on a monday. In that case, lets get to the news. In a recent reuters interview, President Trump reflected on his first 100 days in office saying, quote, i thought it would be easier. What made you think it was going to be easy . [

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