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Agency has been investigating the president s campaign and its potential ties to russia for months. And whether there was any coordination between the campaign and russias efforts. Ill talk to the leading democrat on the senate intel committee, mike warner of virginia. And this piece of advice for President Trump. Dont fight everybody. Pick your battles. I sit down with jerry brown of california. Joining me for insight and analysis are, tom brokaw of nbc news, joy reid, host of a. M. Joy, hugh hewitt and Ileana Johnson of politico. Welcome to sunday. Its meet the press. From nbc news in washington, the longestrunning show in Television History celebrating its 70th year, this is meet the press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning by any standard, that was the most consequential week in Donald Trumps young presidency in the span voters and his clout for congress were dealt big blows. Mr. Comey is investigating possible links between the Trump Campaign and the russian government. By friday, House Republicans had to pull the bill to repeal and replace obamacare, an embarrassing acknowledge that they didnt have the votes despite full control of the senate and the white house. In a short time in office, the president s travel ban has been blocked twice, the Russian Investigation is widening and his Political Capital is shrinking. In behind the scenes negotiating and arm twisting on health care, the president was lackluster in the art of the deal that didnt promise that united republicans repeated over and over again on the campaign trail by donald trump. The first thing were going to do is repeal and replace obamacare. Immediately repealing and replacing obamacare. Immediately, repealing and replacing the disaster known as obamacare. But on friday, House Republicans, facing a revolt by more than 30 conservatives and modz rats pulled their bill to repeal and replace obamacare from the floor, leaving president obamas chief domestic achievement intact. Well be living with obamacare for the foreseeable future. All week republicans promise that President Trumps personal Political Capital would bring the bill across the finish line. The reason i feel so good about this is because the president has become a great closer. Hes the closer. He is the closer. A tremendous closer. Now the defeat of mr. Trumps first legislative effort raises questions about skills that he promised would break through gridlock in washington. If you cant make a good deal with a politician then theres something wrong with you. Youre certainly not very good. And it damages the reputation of House Speaker paul ryan. The selfdescribed policy wonk that republicans drafted to push through conservative legislation, and it raises questions about the partys overall ability to govern. We were a tenyear Opposition Party where being against things was easy to do. Quite frankly, we have a group of people that are no on everything. It is an early victory for grassroots activism on the left. After angry town halls put pressure moderate lawmakers to vote no. Now obamacares survival or collapse lies with mr. Trump, a president who vowed to dismantle it. On friday he told the New York Times, quote, he was pleased to have it all behind him. Its enough already. Though the president tried to the losers are nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer because now they own obamacare. Mr. Trump also implied he might eventually have to work with democrats to fix the law. It is unlikely to happen any time soon, eager to talk about anything else, the president spent his weekly address talking not about health care, not about tax reform, not about infrastructure, but about exploring space. This week in the company of astronauts i was honored to sign the nasa transition authorization act right into law. The blame game is in full swing. The president tweeted this just a few minutes ago. Democrats are smiling in d. C. , and the Freedom Caucus with the help of club for growth and heritage have saved planned parenthood and ocare while some republicans are blaming the white house and others are pointing at speaker ryan and still others like the president is pinning the fault on the Freedom Caucus. Joining me member of the freedom caulk us and someone tasked with helping to the president to close the deal. Mr. Mulvaney. The president himself will pin this on the club for growth, and the conservative caucus, and a caucus you were a member of just six months ago. Theres plenty of blame to go around as we try to figure out what happened. What happened is washington won. I think the one thing we learned this week is washington was moreec broen than President Trump thought that it was. What you have is the status quo wins and unfortunately, the folks back home lost. You can plablame it on the free caucus if you want to and charlie dent, and it was the powers that be in washington that won. The Republican Party has not changed washington after taking over the house, and taking over the senate in 14 and over the white house now. Change washington if the first 65 days and if theres anything thats disappointing and an educational process to the Trump Administration is this place was a lot more rotten than he thought it was. And i was here. I helped found it. Why couldnt you get them to yes . Your former colleagues and you were a vocal member of this caucus. Yeah. Why couldnt you get them to yes . I have no yet. I really dont. Lets step back and realize that probably half of the folks in the group were yes and half were no, but what i told the president what would happen is wed go up to the last couple of days and the last couple of hours and they would make it better and for some reason that hasnt happened and i didnt realize this difficulty ran as deep as it was. You would have been a yes on this . Without reservation and told the men and women in the Freedom Caucus that many, many times. Again, many of them would have supported the bill if it had come to the floor. It was a bizarre combination of some folks on the Freedom Caucus. Doesnt that tell you if the bill was flawed . If you cant win over conservatives and moderates who can you win . Folks are paying attention to the wrong things. Theyre still paying attention to the special interests and being reelected. What happened here is we got stuck with obamacare and the people have been telling people how bad this program is and how harming it is to folks back home are the ones who prevented it from being replaced. Thats whats so frustrating. The president is glad its behind him. White House Press Secretary sean spicer said the president left everything on the field. I want to put up a bill a chart here. This is how long it takes to get big legislative items done. Obamacare from start to finish was 187 legislative days and Medicare Part d, 166. Welfare reform was 56. And from start to finish on health care was 17 the white flag . It was 17 days in this administration. Weve been working against it the what was the hurry . Why didnt you have a bill that could pass in the seven years or why didnt you acknowledge that you needed more time . Here is the hurry. There is a lot to be done. We needed to get rid of obamacare. We needed to fix the system so we could help folks back home and then move on to tax reform so we could help get the people back to work. The president wants to do a lot of things and is not willing to do wharand the one thing i told, look, this president is not like any other president that youve ever seen before. He will not do things the same way. He didnt sell it. He didnt give a major speech on it and he would do rallies and say health care, i cant wait to do tax reform. It was like a nuisance to him. Chuck, no. Youre just wrong on that one. The man worked and yourself. We left everything on the field. How do you describe that as leaving everything on the field. President obama didnt give up in the face of tough town halls. He spent another six months and he had a special election and they kept going, and i guess the question, and you saw i think its phil klein in the Washington Examiner that said this is the biggest broken promise that anyones made in american political history. We had 120 members of congress through the white house in the last couple of days. I myself, at one time on wednesday afternoon, we had 80 members of congress on the property at one time. Mike pence was meeting with the group, and the president was meeting with another group, no stone left unturned. Youre giving up after 17 legislative days and youre live giving up after 66 days. He wants to move on. Clearly, youre not going to touch health care for what . The next 12 months. Winter breaks . The winter break . No, when it breaks. Thats what to talk about and frustrating as we tried to help folks back home is the end result is that people back home will be hurt. The democrats will be blamed for it because its not trumpcare in this country, it is not ryancare. And you have no responsible that the law of the land, that paul ryan said would be the law of the land for the foreseeable future, does your administration have the duty to make it work . We had the duty to try to fix it. Do you have the duty to make it work . We have the duty to help people back home. You cannot fix a broken system. This is a system built on the idea that the government could force you to do something you didnt want and that that would make you happy. You are never going to fix that. The system must be removed and it must be repealed and replaced and youre not going to fix a system that doesnt trust people to do whats in their best interest. I keep coming back, why is it that a Republican House and senate could put a repeal bill easily and you couldnt put a repeal bill on President Trumps desk . Were asking the same questions. We really are. I know the man in the white house is capable of governing. Without a doubt, no question. If anybody had any doubts about President Trumps ability to be the president they should have been really . Cant close a deal . He said he was a big negotiator. This is what everybody said he couldnt do and he couldnt work with different groups in the Republican Party. No, this was the president being the president. What you saw this week were more rotten thing than we did. The president did a saturday morning tweet and he said this, to go watch judge janeane on fox news on fox news at 00 p. M. So we did. Heres what she said. Paul ryan needs to step down as speaker of the house. This is not9 businessman to understand the complicated ins and outs. What message was the president trying to send, telling his supporters to watch her and her lead editorial was to say House Speaker paul ryan needs to step down. Is that what the president wanted people to hear . I have spent more time in the last week with the president of the United States than i thought i would, than four years. Ive never seen him blame paul ryan. Why did he want people to watch her show . The people to blame were the people who would not vote yes and they would vote no and when sen to lee is here. The folks who voted no are the folks to blame. He is want blaming paul ryan at all . There is no subtle campaign to undermine paul ryan . Ive been in the oval office with the president and with the speaker more in the last couple of days than i ever thought. Ive never seen the president for a second try to blame paul ryan for this. All right. Are you going tope replace obamacare before the end of this year . My guess is we will move on. You are not touching health care. When it fails, and it may be may, and it may be the end of this year, folks will come back and say . This is no longer a hundredday priority. The president has things he wants to accomplish and hes not going to wait for congress to sit around and do the right thing. When it breaks and chuck, its going to break, they will come back to us and ask us to take it up again. I will leave it there. As tax reform gets under way ill see you there again soon. Mick mulvaney, thanks for coming on. Appreciate it. It was tanked by a revolt in the house, but it was facing steep opposition in the senate, senator of utah and charlie, and one thing they both agreed on, they werent going to vote for this bill as it was written and they both join me now together. Gentlemen, welcome. Senator leigh, let me start with you, the president is blaming the Freedom Caucus, club for growth and heritage for, quote, protecting planned parenthood and obamacare. Is that a fair read of what happened this week, sir . That is not at all how i see it. This bill didnt pass because it didnt deal with the most fundamental flaw in obamacare. The part of obamacare that has made health care unacceptable and unaffordable. Until we get a bill that actually brings down the cost of health care for hardworking americans were not going to get something that passes. Congressman dent, do you pin the blame . Some people pin the blame on the moderates, it wasnt just the Freedom Caucus and the moderates helped tank this, too. What say you . Well, i tend to agree with the president on that point. Lets be very honest about this. A lot of the concessions the white house was making at the end of to please and placate the hard right on essential benefits and other issues all to placate people who were not going to vote for the bill anyway. By doing that, they ended up alienating more people on the senate right or moderates. That is really what happened. The bottom line, chuck, that in order to Reform Health care in this country well have to do it in a durable, Sustainable Way and bipartisan manner. We as republicans should not make the same mistakes that the democrats did in 2010 by muscling that law through. I voted against it. They muscled it through. We need to do this in a durable, bipartisan and Sustainable Way. Before i go back to senator lee. I want you to respond to was out this morning and its an anecdote about the president and you. According to an attendee, the president angrily informed you, congressman dent, that you were destroying the Republican Party and was going to take down tax reform and im going you. Is that is that what the president said to you and how did you respond . I listened to respectfully to what the president had to say, this discussion has been far too much about artificial timeliness and arbitrary deadlines all to affect tax reform. This conversation should be more about the people whose lives will be impacted by decisions on health care. We did not have much of a substantive discussion. Im holding up a plan from republican governors from expansion states like mine, kasich, snyder, sandoval, hutchison. They wanted to be part of this process and they were not brought in. Those kinds of issues were very important to me and to the people i represent and frankly, to a lot of the members of congress w are part of the senate right group who are very concerned about the medicaid changes and yeah, i can hold my ground. Senator lee, you heard Mick Mulvaney said theyre moving on glad health care is behind him. First of all, what say you . Is health care behind you . Absolutely not. We need to do that. We need to do that very thing. We need to get back to the table and get people negotiating. As a whole lot of people said the other day, as paul ryan himself said when this bill was going down the tubes. He said we came so close and hes right. They were not far away from a deal. They could have gotten a deal. There were a few things that could have added to the bill to vote for it so that it would have passed. This is part of the legislative process and the process has to be allowed to play itself out and devoting 17 legislative days to a bill and then walking away from it because it hasnt passed within 17 legislative days makes no sense especially when this is something that weve been campaigning on for seven years and the American People are hurting. Hardwog are unable to afford health care because of this bill. Weve got to fix that or weve got to repeal it. Now that we have the two of you that represent the ideological polls of the Republican Party. I want to ask you both whether you agree with the following quote from a colleague of yours, senator lee. Its bill cassidy, republican of louisiana. He has his own health care bill. He said this that now, quote, theres widespread recognition that the federal government, congress has create the right for every american to have health care. Essentially, senator lee, he is saying the debates over about whether government should be involved with this or not and now its time to design a law that acknowledges this right, that people have a right to health care and the governments got to figure out how to do it for them. Do you concur with that . In so far as hes talking about a federal right, rights are things that the government cant do to you. Rights are not something that the government must do to you or provide government is key and the increased federal presence is somehow going to bring down the cost of health care. Thats simply not true, and in fact, thats refuted abundantly by the last seven years by what happened since obamacare was passed. When this bill was passed and we brought the federal government into it with the promise that it would make health care more affordable. Congressman dent, i would guess you are in more agreement with senator cassidy. I spoke with senator cassidy and senator collins at length and senator cassidy from a very c conservative state. We have a President Trump<\/a>. Dont fight everybody. Pick your battles. I sit down with jerry brown of california. Joining me for insight and analysis are, tom brokaw of nbc news, joy reid, host of a. M. Joy, hugh hewitt and Ileana Johnson<\/a> of politico. Welcome to sunday. Its meet the press. From nbc news in washington, the longestrunning show in Television History<\/a> celebrating its 70th year, this is meet the press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning by any standard, that was the most consequential week in Donald Trumps<\/a> young presidency in the span voters and his clout for congress were dealt big blows. Mr. Comey is investigating possible links between the Trump Campaign<\/a> and the russian government. By friday, House Republicans<\/a> had to pull the bill to repeal and replace obamacare, an embarrassing acknowledge that they didnt have the votes despite full control of the senate and the white house. In a short time in office, the president s travel ban has been blocked twice, the Russian Investigation<\/a> is widening and his Political Capital<\/a> is shrinking. In behind the scenes negotiating and arm twisting on health care, the president was lackluster in the art of the deal that didnt promise that united republicans repeated over and over again on the campaign trail by donald trump. The first thing were going to do is repeal and replace obamacare. Immediately repealing and replacing obamacare. Immediately, repealing and replacing the disaster known as obamacare. But on friday, House Republicans<\/a>, facing a revolt by more than 30 conservatives and modz rats pulled their bill to repeal and replace obamacare from the floor, leaving president obamas chief domestic achievement intact. Well be living with obamacare for the foreseeable future. All week republicans promise that President Trump<\/a>s personal Political Capital<\/a> would bring the bill across the finish line. The reason i feel so good about this is because the president has become a great closer. Hes the closer. He is the closer. A tremendous closer. Now the defeat of mr. Trumps first legislative effort raises questions about skills that he promised would break through gridlock in washington. If you cant make a good deal with a politician then theres something wrong with you. Youre certainly not very good. And it damages the reputation of House Speaker<\/a> paul ryan. The selfdescribed policy wonk that republicans drafted to push through conservative legislation, and it raises questions about the partys overall ability to govern. We were a tenyear Opposition Party<\/a> where being against things was easy to do. Quite frankly, we have a group of people that are no on everything. It is an early victory for grassroots activism on the left. After angry town halls put pressure moderate lawmakers to vote no. Now obamacares survival or collapse lies with mr. Trump, a president who vowed to dismantle it. On friday he told the New York Times<\/a>, quote, he was pleased to have it all behind him. Its enough already. Though the president tried to the losers are nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer<\/a> because now they own obamacare. Mr. Trump also implied he might eventually have to work with democrats to fix the law. It is unlikely to happen any time soon, eager to talk about anything else, the president spent his weekly address talking not about health care, not about tax reform, not about infrastructure, but about exploring space. This week in the company of astronauts i was honored to sign the nasa transition authorization act right into law. The blame game is in full swing. The president tweeted this just a few minutes ago. Democrats are smiling in d. C. , and the Freedom Caucus<\/a> with the help of club for growth and heritage have saved planned parenthood and ocare while some republicans are blaming the white house and others are pointing at speaker ryan and still others like the president is pinning the fault on the Freedom Caucus<\/a>. Joining me member of the freedom caulk us and someone tasked with helping to the president to close the deal. Mr. Mulvaney. The president himself will pin this on the club for growth, and the conservative caucus, and a caucus you were a member of just six months ago. Theres plenty of blame to go around as we try to figure out what happened. What happened is washington won. I think the one thing we learned this week is washington was moreec broen than President Trump<\/a> thought that it was. What you have is the status quo wins and unfortunately, the folks back home lost. You can plablame it on the free caucus if you want to and charlie dent, and it was the powers that be in washington that won. The Republican Party<\/a> has not changed washington after taking over the house, and taking over the senate in 14 and over the white house now. Change washington if the first 65 days and if theres anything thats disappointing and an educational process to the Trump Administration<\/a> is this place was a lot more rotten than he thought it was. And i was here. I helped found it. Why couldnt you get them to yes . Your former colleagues and you were a vocal member of this caucus. Yeah. Why couldnt you get them to yes . I have no yet. I really dont. Lets step back and realize that probably half of the folks in the group were yes and half were no, but what i told the president what would happen is wed go up to the last couple of days and the last couple of hours and they would make it better and for some reason that hasnt happened and i didnt realize this difficulty ran as deep as it was. You would have been a yes on this . Without reservation and told the men and women in the Freedom Caucus<\/a> that many, many times. Again, many of them would have supported the bill if it had come to the floor. It was a bizarre combination of some folks on the Freedom Caucus<\/a>. Doesnt that tell you if the bill was flawed . If you cant win over conservatives and moderates who can you win . Folks are paying attention to the wrong things. Theyre still paying attention to the special interests and being reelected. What happened here is we got stuck with obamacare and the people have been telling people how bad this program is and how harming it is to folks back home are the ones who prevented it from being replaced. Thats whats so frustrating. The president is glad its behind him. White House Press Secretary<\/a> sean spicer said the president left everything on the field. I want to put up a bill a chart here. This is how long it takes to get big legislative items done. Obamacare from start to finish was 187 legislative days and Medicare Part<\/a> d, 166. Welfare reform was 56. And from start to finish on health care was 17 the white flag . It was 17 days in this administration. Weve been working against it the what was the hurry . Why didnt you have a bill that could pass in the seven years or why didnt you acknowledge that you needed more time . Here is the hurry. There is a lot to be done. We needed to get rid of obamacare. We needed to fix the system so we could help folks back home and then move on to tax reform so we could help get the people back to work. The president wants to do a lot of things and is not willing to do wharand the one thing i told, look, this president is not like any other president that youve ever seen before. He will not do things the same way. He didnt sell it. He didnt give a major speech on it and he would do rallies and say health care, i cant wait to do tax reform. It was like a nuisance to him. Chuck, no. Youre just wrong on that one. The man worked and yourself. We left everything on the field. How do you describe that as leaving everything on the field. President obama didnt give up in the face of tough town halls. He spent another six months and he had a special election and they kept going, and i guess the question, and you saw i think its phil klein in the Washington Examiner<\/a> that said this is the biggest broken promise that anyones made in american political history. We had 120 members of congress through the white house in the last couple of days. I myself, at one time on wednesday afternoon, we had 80 members of congress on the property at one time. Mike pence was meeting with the group, and the president was meeting with another group, no stone left unturned. Youre giving up after 17 legislative days and youre live giving up after 66 days. He wants to move on. Clearly, youre not going to touch health care for what . The next 12 months. Winter breaks . The winter break . No, when it breaks. Thats what to talk about and frustrating as we tried to help folks back home is the end result is that people back home will be hurt. The democrats will be blamed for it because its not trumpcare in this country, it is not ryancare. And you have no responsible that the law of the land, that paul ryan said would be the law of the land for the foreseeable future, does your administration have the duty to make it work . We had the duty to try to fix it. Do you have the duty to make it work . We have the duty to help people back home. You cannot fix a broken system. This is a system built on the idea that the government could force you to do something you didnt want and that that would make you happy. You are never going to fix that. The system must be removed and it must be repealed and replaced and youre not going to fix a system that doesnt trust people to do whats in their best interest. I keep coming back, why is it that a Republican House<\/a> and senate could put a repeal bill easily and you couldnt put a repeal bill on President Trump<\/a>s desk . Were asking the same questions. We really are. I know the man in the white house is capable of governing. Without a doubt, no question. If anybody had any doubts about President Trump<\/a>s ability to be the president they should have been really . Cant close a deal . He said he was a big negotiator. This is what everybody said he couldnt do and he couldnt work with different groups in the Republican Party<\/a>. No, this was the president being the president. What you saw this week were more rotten thing than we did. The president did a saturday morning tweet and he said this, to go watch judge janeane on fox news on fox news at 00 p. M. So we did. Heres what she said. Paul ryan needs to step down as speaker of the house. This is not9 businessman to understand the complicated ins and outs. What message was the president trying to send, telling his supporters to watch her and her lead editorial was to say House Speaker<\/a> paul ryan needs to step down. Is that what the president wanted people to hear . I have spent more time in the last week with the president of the United States<\/a> than i thought i would, than four years. Ive never seen him blame paul ryan. Why did he want people to watch her show . The people to blame were the people who would not vote yes and they would vote no and when sen to lee is here. The folks who voted no are the folks to blame. He is want blaming paul ryan at all . There is no subtle campaign to undermine paul ryan . Ive been in the oval office with the president and with the speaker more in the last couple of days than i ever thought. Ive never seen the president for a second try to blame paul ryan for this. All right. Are you going tope replace obamacare before the end of this year . My guess is we will move on. You are not touching health care. When it fails, and it may be may, and it may be the end of this year, folks will come back and say . This is no longer a hundredday priority. The president has things he wants to accomplish and hes not going to wait for congress to sit around and do the right thing. When it breaks and chuck, its going to break, they will come back to us and ask us to take it up again. I will leave it there. As tax reform gets under way ill see you there again soon. Mick mulvaney, thanks for coming on. Appreciate it. It was tanked by a revolt in the house, but it was facing steep opposition in the senate, senator of utah and charlie, and one thing they both agreed on, they werent going to vote for this bill as it was written and they both join me now together. Gentlemen, welcome. Senator leigh, let me start with you, the president is blaming the Freedom Caucus<\/a>, club for growth and heritage for, quote, protecting planned parenthood and obamacare. Is that a fair read of what happened this week, sir . That is not at all how i see it. This bill didnt pass because it didnt deal with the most fundamental flaw in obamacare. The part of obamacare that has made health care unacceptable and unaffordable. Until we get a bill that actually brings down the cost of health care for hardworking americans were not going to get something that passes. Congressman dent, do you pin the blame . Some people pin the blame on the moderates, it wasnt just the Freedom Caucus<\/a> and the moderates helped tank this, too. What say you . Well, i tend to agree with the president on that point. Lets be very honest about this. A lot of the concessions the white house was making at the end of to please and placate the hard right on essential benefits and other issues all to placate people who were not going to vote for the bill anyway. By doing that, they ended up alienating more people on the senate right or moderates. That is really what happened. The bottom line, chuck, that in order to Reform Health<\/a> care in this country well have to do it in a durable, Sustainable Way<\/a> and bipartisan manner. We as republicans should not make the same mistakes that the democrats did in 2010 by muscling that law through. I voted against it. They muscled it through. We need to do this in a durable, bipartisan and Sustainable Way<\/a>. Before i go back to senator lee. I want you to respond to was out this morning and its an anecdote about the president and you. According to an attendee, the president angrily informed you, congressman dent, that you were destroying the Republican Party<\/a> and was going to take down tax reform and im going you. Is that is that what the president said to you and how did you respond . I listened to respectfully to what the president had to say, this discussion has been far too much about artificial timeliness and arbitrary deadlines all to affect tax reform. This conversation should be more about the people whose lives will be impacted by decisions on health care. We did not have much of a substantive discussion. Im holding up a plan from republican governors from expansion states like mine, kasich, snyder, sandoval, hutchison. They wanted to be part of this process and they were not brought in. Those kinds of issues were very important to me and to the people i represent and frankly, to a lot of the members of congress w are part of the senate right group who are very concerned about the medicaid changes and yeah, i can hold my ground. Senator lee, you heard Mick Mulvaney<\/a> said theyre moving on glad health care is behind him. First of all, what say you . Is health care behind you . Absolutely not. We need to do that. We need to do that very thing. We need to get back to the table and get people negotiating. As a whole lot of people said the other day, as paul ryan himself said when this bill was going down the tubes. He said we came so close and hes right. They were not far away from a deal. They could have gotten a deal. There were a few things that could have added to the bill to vote for it so that it would have passed. This is part of the legislative process and the process has to be allowed to play itself out and devoting 17 legislative days to a bill and then walking away from it because it hasnt passed within 17 legislative days makes no sense especially when this is something that weve been campaigning on for seven years and the American People<\/a> are hurting. Hardwog are unable to afford health care because of this bill. Weve got to fix that or weve got to repeal it. Now that we have the two of you that represent the ideological polls of the Republican Party<\/a>. I want to ask you both whether you agree with the following quote from a colleague of yours, senator lee. Its bill cassidy, republican of louisiana. He has his own health care bill. He said this that now, quote, theres widespread recognition that the federal government, congress has create the right for every american to have health care. Essentially, senator lee, he is saying the debates over about whether government should be involved with this or not and now its time to design a law that acknowledges this right, that people have a right to health care and the governments got to figure out how to do it for them. Do you concur with that . In so far as hes talking about a federal right, rights are things that the government cant do to you. Rights are not something that the government must do to you or provide government is key and the increased federal presence is somehow going to bring down the cost of health care. Thats simply not true, and in fact, thats refuted abundantly by the last seven years by what happened since obamacare was passed. When this bill was passed and we brought the federal government into it with the promise that it would make health care more affordable. Congressman dent, i would guess you are in more agreement with senator cassidy. I spoke with senator cassidy and senator collins at length and senator cassidy from a very c conservative state. We have a Health Architecture<\/a> now, flawed as it is, i voted against it the and we need to make it market oriented and patientfriendly and patientcentered. That debate hassal read ed been settled. Our job is now to fix it and make it much better than it is today because its simply not working for tony ill leave it there and i have a feeling that there say divide here on the role of government that hasnt been bridged inside the Republican Party<\/a> and until thats done we still may have this debate to go on and on and on. Gentlemen, i appreciate you coming on together. Its good to have you both. 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Panelists here, tom brokaw, grand puba of nbc news, joy reid, and always a joy and hugh hewitt host on the salem radio network. Al right, hugh, im going to start with you because this is what the Washington Examiner<\/a> headline is, gop cave on Obamacare Repeal<\/a> is the biggest broken promise in political history, and it was at the top of, i believe, phil kleins analysis. Is he right . No. We had a great week with neil gorsuch and hell weigh the balance of the Supreme Court<\/a> and President Trump<\/a> had as a huge win to put on the table. It was a big loss, and i agree with the autopsy that director mulvaney put out, it isnt on paul ryan and it is on area 51 of the Freedom Caucus<\/a> that believes in legislative flying saucers that ignore the senate and senate rules and own the loss. Nobody else. Tom . The fact of the matter is the entire republican side of the house for seven years has been screaming about repealing obamacare. So they come up with a plan that they do in the middle of the night and they shove it in front of the house and they say take it or leave it. The president buys into that with a creative circular firing squad and the command was ready, fire, aim and were all involved in politics, but out in America Today<\/a> people with serious or even moderate Health Problems<\/a> are wondering, where do i go from here . It is soec broen in washington. Its not going to get anything done. We did some voter interviews over the last couple of days. There was one that really stood out to me, and ill play it here from a woman in wichita. Trump voter. Listen to this. You cannot slam something so incredibly layered and complex together in that many days. I dont care how many people are working on it. You cannot do it. It took them so much longer to craft aca correct. There has to be a balance. She gets it. One thing i dont think has been sufficiently appreciate side that the democrats expended an enormous amount of Political Capital<\/a> to pass obamacare. It took 13 months to craft the law. President obama talked about it incessantly and mocked by republicans for pounding away at it. Democrats lost 63 seats in congress and six seats in the senate. I dont know if republicans were mentally prepared if they cared about it so much to expend that kind of Political Capital<\/a> and to know, okay, precisely because theyre doing something unprecedented and taking away an entitlement. We might lose the house and the senate for doing this. Do they care that much . Im not sure. It was a regulatory process, and i thought the graphic you put up the number of llegislatie days devoted to previous legislate, where your time is spent thats where your passion is. The problem for republicans the 17day oddisy and a lot of people on the democratic side perceived and repeal and replace is about taking away obama signature achievement and affirmatively, what did they want to do . Republicans have spent the last 30, 40 years of trying to replace this image of callousness toward the poor and callousness toward the elderly with the idea of compassionate conservatism. That was whisked away and there was a cruelty to this bill that was even apparent to conservative voters and Republican Voters<\/a> who were shocked at the cruelty and the third thing and the president has hinted at this, too, this was a tax cut. This was an attempt to jam through a giant tax cut for the health toe set the stage for tax reform. Charlie dent said that, hugh. He basically said this was all about trying to finance a 2 trillion tax cut hoping that they could make it deficit neutral. Charlie, who is a friend of mine, lives in a marginal district. He has to be careful with every vote. Killed this live in a safe, red district. Obamacare is the time share that the democrats bought that they cannot admit the cost of, that they keep telling themselves was a good idea. It is in a death spiral. Joy and i have had many disagreements about that. Its not the definition of an economic death spiral . Its not the definition. Well point out the president of aetna and you will lose coverage and thats a death spiral. Joy disagrees and i know she wants to jump in here. I appreciate her reticence. We know aetna lied and weve had a federal uj j say aetna lied and they pulled out for other reasons and Insurance Companies<\/a> raised premiums and its what they do, and the Congressional Budget Office<\/a> made it quite clear the Affordable Care<\/a> act is not, not collapsing and not in a death spiral. Its not. I want to quickly get to paul ryan here because it is is there a subtle palace intr people in this white house to undermine paul ryan . I dont know about that, but i was stunned who paul ryan who had been in this town in a long time say at the end of the process, well, there is a difference being an Opposition Party<\/a> and a Majority Party<\/a> and its their fourth term in progress and he also said its really complicated, health care. To come to the American People<\/a> in 60 days in this admin stralgz and say it was complicated and by the way, we didnt realize the difference between being an Opposition Party<\/a> and being a Majority Party<\/a>. I think that takes a lot of his credibility away from him, quite honestly. Can we comment on Mick Mulvaney<\/a> essentially saying the tea party which is what the Freedom Caucus<\/a> is, theyre the establishment . Thats odd. When you play the blame game here you talk about paul ryan and its important to note. How does he roll out a bill that n policy expert supports . This was a bill without a core constituency of supporters behind it which i think was its essential problem. I know he wants to blame the tea partiers, but how do you explain that. No, not the tea partiers, the area 51 i will never vote for anything that isnt perfect people. It doesnt exist. I think thats hard to reconcile. Ill close the loop here with just one comment which came from a strategist quoted in the wall street journal, ryan is probably safest as speaker because nobody particularly wants to be henry the viiis exwife. Can they survive various shouting heigh ho its off to work we go woman on the gulf coast, new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. And each job created by the Energy Industry<\/a> supports two others in the community. Ports over 9 million jobs nationwide. These are jobs that natural gas is helping make happen, all while reducing americas emissions. Energy lives here. It can seem like triggers pop up everywhere. 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And a chaotic back and forth between the committees top two members after the chairman briefed the president Whose Campaign<\/a> his committee is supposed to be investigating and all of this calling into question over whether the house can conduct a credible investigation, and it appears now that investigation could be falling apart before our eyes. So this week the senate Intelligence Committee<\/a> will get its turn to prove that someone in congress can credibly investigate this in a way. Senator mark warner of virginia is in the committee. Welcome. Good morning. Look, i want to get right to getting your reaction to what fbi director james comey said when he testified that they are indeed investigating ties between the Trump Campaign<\/a> and russia. Well, chuck, i want to talk about russia, as well, but we just saw the first half of this show talk about the failure of trumpcare take place. The reason was nobody talked about the details of the bill. It would have cost 24 million americans their healthcare, it would have raised prices for seniors, it was a major tax cut for the wealthy and an 800 billion cost shift for the states to pick up the medicaid and it was an awful bill and i think people across the country revolted against it. Sometimes the substance actually matters. In terms of russia, this is ive said before, this is the most important thing ive ever done in my public life, and what i know now as i get more and down on that statement because its extraordinary. We have the fbi director admitting there are investigations going on. We know the russians massively interfered with our elections and we had 1,000page internet trolls that flooded the zone with fake news, and we have a series of people that are closely affiliated with the president who have had extensive ties with russia including the fact, 60 days into the administration. We have both the nsa director and the National Security<\/a> adviser that had to resign and the attorney general had to recuse himself because of those ties. How much does an active investigation in the fbi hamper the senate Intelligence Committee<\/a>s ability to do an investigation . Isnt it plausible it cant turn over these materials because they are done . There were prior examples. Think back to watergate. There was a doj going on. Youll do both . I talked regularly with dior there will be times when well have, im sure, brushups and we start our process in terms of open hearing this week and we have terms of reference and we have incredible access to information at the cia and well have to get more information and weve started interviewing witnesses and weve got a long way to go to get this done and well get it done in a bipartisan way. You had the house intelligence chairman devin nunes claim that he has now seen some raw intelligence reports that perhaps confirmed that there was at least some inadvertent surveillance of folks connected to the Trump Campaign<\/a>. Have you seen any of this material . What is he referring to . I am totally mystified. Ive talked to democrats on the committee. I think its fairly mystifying if not outrageous that he makes these claims and then goes to sit down and briefs the white house and i know adam the investigation bipartisan. I dont think mr. Schiff even knows today what those documents are. We have talked a couple of times and you have hesitated on endorsing the idea of an independent commission, john mccain has been the biggest champion of this is aing at this point maybe it cant be done inside of congress. What do you say to that . Listen, if we can get an independent commission, that means you have to pass a bill and the president will sign it. Thats moving you were not there even two weeks ago. And then you have to debate about who will be on it. I have tom cotton on the committee and ron widen and we crossed all of the political divides and frankly, we have bipartisan support, serious republicans, marco rubio, Susan Collins<\/a> all saying well go where the intel leads. I want to ask you about richard burr and your trust and faith in him. The white house used asked both devin nunes and richard back against one of these New York Times<\/a> stories and they both did in some form or another. Does that call into question senator burrs ability to be bipartisan in this and do you trust him . Weve had some bumps, but i am working very closely with him right now . You trust him . I trust him that we will get this done and we have a list of witnesses that i think you will see that is comprehensive and well talk to everybody involved. Is Paul Manafort<\/a> apparently made a statement that hes willing to testify before the house and the Senate Intelligence<\/a> investigations. When would we see somebody like Paul Manafort<\/a> . What you have to do first is you have to get your information, and raw intelligence and build your case. You only bring in those kind of witnesses at the appropriate time. Is that like a threemonth, sixmonth, outline the time line here. What well do is have the public hearing and well continue to do as much as we can in public, but we have more raw intelligence through because when we bring in people like mr. Manafort, we want to know not some spectacle. We want to ask the right questions. As you know, you brought up adam schiff and hes the ranking democrat in the House Intelligence Committee<\/a>. He said there is more than just circumstantial evidence and that there is some some evidence of collusion thats going to come out. Is that ill simply say what i said at the outset. Weeks ago when i was first Getting Started<\/a> with this and i said this is the most important thing ive ever worked on. With what i know now i doubly believe that. It has to be done bipartisan and we have to get the facts out to the American People<\/a>. You keep saying there is more smoke . There is more smoke. Do you think there is a fire there . Time will tell and what we know is the russians massively intervened and theyre doing the same in france and germany. Before i let you go, neil gorsuch, is it worth filibustering him, or do you believe he hava a disappointed with his answers. He was not even to acknowledge the bedrock cases like brown versus board of education are part of our existing theres voting no and preventing a vote. Where are you . Time will tell. You have not made a decision on filibustering . I have not made a decision yet, and i am not pleased with his answers. Senator mark warner, well see you later this week. Thanks very much. Appreciate it. When we come back, california governor jerry brown i ca the rain is gone childrens claritin is the only brand that provides 24hour, nondrowsy allergy relief products. Plus its the 1 pediatrician recommended nondrowsy brand. Gonna be a bright, sunshiney day this is not a screensaver. Game. This is the destruction of a cancer cell by the bodys own immune system, thanks to medicine that didnt exist until now. And today can save your life. Welcome back. When jerry brown first became governor of california in january 1975 the number one song on billboard was elton johns cover of the beatles lucy in the sky with diamonds. He was here in d. C. For his first visit since President Trump<\/a>s inauguration and he didnt get a meeting with the president or anybody in the west wing. In his second go round as governor, he is the top official and in a state, a deeply blue one who is sharply at odds especially when it comes to immigration and that border wall. The wall to me is ominous. It reminds me too much of the berlin wall. When i see that 30foot wall i worry somehow are they trying to deep me in or keep them out . I really think people ought to be careful because theres a lot of odor here of kind man, a kind of a world where you want the ultimate leader here to be doing all of this stuff, and having a wall, locking the people in is one of those characteristics. I think america ought to be very careful when we make radical changes like a 30foot wall keeping some in and some out. No, i understand that, but you have essentially, you could take the government to court. You could stop this and will you pull out every stop from keeping the wall from construction . I dont like the wall. To the extent it violates law i will enforce that. Were not going to sit around and play patsys and do whatever the hell you want and deport 2 million people. No, were going fight and well fight very hard, but were not going to bring stupid lawsuits and running to the courthouse every day and i would do the right, human and christian thing from my point you dont treat human beings like that. Trumps supposed to be mr. Religious fellow, and i thought we had to treat the least of these as we would treat the lord. So i hope he would reconnect with some of his conservative evangelicals and theyll hello him that these are human beings and theyre children of god and they should be treated that way. Needless to say there is a lot more to my interview with Governor Brown<\/a> and we spoke about where the discussion went and where hes willing to work for the president and his advice for mr. Trump since he governs more people than any other democrat. Of course, the health care implosion on friday meant we didnt have as much time as we wanted to have with him and all of this is on our website, meet the press. 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You know, this week began with the first gut punch which was russia and the presidency, tom . Here we are tomorrow is day 67. We had the travel ban. Its been blocked twice, healthcare cant get done, now he wants to do tax reform and russia is expanding and this is not a presidency that will have a hundred days event that will feel good. There say huge difference between standing before a crowd in kentucky as he did ten days ago ask repeating Campaign Promises<\/a> and governing from 1600 pennsylvania avenue and getting things done. I think we can see in the next week or so that Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> will begin to take control on the senate side of some of the issues, deregulation and taxation, for example, getting gorsuch through. Those kinds of things will begin to lift, but it wont be trump who is getting that done for him. I really think that this has not been fatal for trump. No question about that, but how nimble hes going to be and whether he can change. We havent seen much evidence of that in his private life or in his public life, and i think thats what weave got to its interesting to me, his instinct is to want to work with democrats. There is an excerpt of the great Robert Draper<\/a> piece on trump, and he wrote this and based on an interview that he did. Trump seemed much less animated by the subject of budget cuts than the subject of spending pump. Spend money to make money in the future and that will happen, a clearer keynesian liberalism, is that your party now . I think hes done with the right wing. If you buy stocks, one of them is the Supreme Court<\/a>, that went up 400 this week and one is health care and it bankrupted and you have the military, the tax bill and the infrastructure and hell bank on the other four going up and the Supreme Court<\/a> went with i think you had the 2020 nominee here in mark warner. You cant be the democratic nominee and not support a hes run for president and hes going to go for chuck shumer and that is great from my perspective. Ilian a does donald trump go to his democratic instipths now . I think thats 100 true. Hell move to the left and hes wanted to do infrastructure and he wants to do a big push on it, and the thing i found interesting this week is that he went to the Freedom Caucus<\/a> and his pitch to them, his means of persuasion was he singled out mark meadows and he told republicans, youre going to lose. Im going to campaign against you and people said to me, you know, it wasnt the best means of persuasion, but when he moves to his left he gets to sell people on things and say im going to give you things youre really going to like. So i think it will be interesting to watch him. I think thats much more the mode he likes to be in. It didnt work for him to recriminate people and pound them over the a goodies. How Many Democrats<\/a> will he get if he moves left . The democrats of the party which stepped forward and extinguished this trumpcare bill, theyre allowing the grassroo grassroots to lead them. There is one that he actually personally knows and its Chuck Schumer<\/a> and knows well and he became a republican, but if you recall in the back roger stone days in the 80s. He was railing for being too tough on the soviet union and hes a guy in business used to spending other memes money and borrowing it and not paying it back. His mode is to spend a lot of money and its interesting watching most of the republicans except the Freedom Caucus<\/a> going along living life with whatever they want to do to change the ideology. The whole question is do these fiscal conservatives in congress go along with an infrastructure bill because theyre giving the president leeway in h days . We saw in health care that its not likely, and i think its because the president didnt know the policy details and he wasnt able to persuade them. Can he do it on infrastructure . Weve known him for a long time in his new york days and now as a campaign. The Attention Span<\/a> is about that big. And thats why hes glad its in the rearview mirror, i guess. Well do a quick 45second break. Endgame is coming up and a very public and un having an Emergency Savings<\/a> for the unexpected may help provide a little light in a possibly dark situation. The more you know. Back now with endgame before i get to our little fun tease there that even hugh was intrigued about. I want to quickly ask, palace intrigue here. Does the president reorient his own west wing staff . Theres been any of that . Is rips priebus the president needs to ask director comey if anyone in the white house is under investigation because they have to be separated out and tom remembers watergate and if anyone is they have to go and Reince Priebus<\/a> isnt and paul ryan has to stay and they need to listen to m think hes right. They choose from former administrations and people who know the town. This is what happens when you staff your team with ideologues and people from rightwing media world rather than people who know anything about running theres nobody in there with legislative experience beyond pence. I dont think the problem is ideologues and i think the problem is lack of experience on capitol hill. For the president its, you know, he doesnt understand the policy details. For paul ryan, i think its been the story of this thats been undertold is he didnt sell this well. He didnt talk to journalists beforehand or the policy community, and i think that was perhaps the biggest flaw and the biggest mistake. The biggest knock you hear about paul ryan that it rings true, tom is here is this incredible policy wonk who hates politics and he took a job that was all politics. He knew he wasnt as suited for it as others wanted it to be. The president put his arms around it, but i think s wounded in this quite honestly and nobody else wants that job and quite surprised, however, and i hesitate to use the phrase, naivety. Doesnt Aaron Rodgers<\/a> always start slow, though . Isnt he always start slow in the. Best line ive heard week is a day without a tweet is a very good day. Its also very hard to no matter how good of a politician you are to sell the idea of taking 24 million peoples healthcare away. That is not sellable. In ryans defense, i dont think hes been saying, gosh, its harder. I think hes trying to tell his conference. Yes. Governing is different than being in the pop sessiooppositi. Its much harder. The bottom line at the end of this week is health care is 18 of our economy. It affects everyone in america in one form or another and this is not just a political game. This is not monopoly. Theyve got to find a way to get this settled and in the Reagan Pat Moynihan<\/a> and Alan Greenspan<\/a> and they solved social security. And thats why they didnt do that, set up your own and buy yourself time. That would have been the other thing. Stop the repeefl obamacare. Take that sting of we need to take this thing away from obama. If youve got problems with it. Fix it. Thats what legislating is for. Now im going to answer hughs intrigue. March madness known for its heartbreaks and all things that could be applied to republicans this week, but one super pac was so sure that repealing obamacare was a slam dunk that they ran ads during march madness games thanking republicans to replace the Affordable Care<\/a> act. It seemed to be a victory lap for a nonexistent win. She came out against the plan. She was a no on this, and it was interesting where they were nervous. It was des moines, it was darryl issa was in there and you had identified those folks. She but i dont know if anybody had a worse friday than paul ryan. I asked paul ryan about his bracket pick last week when i interviewed him and heres what he said to me. Speaker ryan, do you have wisconsin in your final four . Yes, i do, actually. I have them going all of the way, and i have a rematch with kentucky and we win this time. Friday at 3 30 he pulls the bill and no more repeal and replace. Friday night this is how with us wisconsins season ended. Oh, my goodness oh, speaker ryan, i say this i dont want to look, he and i both love the packers together. So dont hold that against me. It was a tough night. It was. Dont forget, neil gorsuch, neil gorsuch, neil gorsuch i can stay here all day, neil gorsuch. 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