I dont think its good. I dont think it has any parallels to the past. I think he wants them like an addict craves their drug. The press corps is one of the least re the most reluctant institutions to change. Technology has changed. Everything is changing. The White House Press corps is still largely dominated and defined by the habits of people in the 90s. It hasnt changed much. Lets make some changes here. You could make changes. I have my own ideas. I will wait until you what are some changes in the relationship between the White House Press corps and some traditions you think deserve theres been talk of upending some of them. What would you like to make . Im most intrigued by the notion that trump doesnt think he needs or wants to have a protective pool. The protective pool exists so that on days like 9 11, a president can speak not just to his press or to this country but to the world. I think changes his mind about the need for protective pool and maybe getting the press to be more inventive and modern in what that protective pool is made of up. I would make a suggestion for the press. You dont need to follow the president around you dont need to put every word he says on tv and have a story every day about what he said yesterday. Its easy to find that. All you have do is put on twitter or facebook live. Its all there. If more resources were put into not just what was said today but whats actually really happening, i think it would be much Better Service to the public. I would make two changes. One is i would take the briefing off of live tv. Make it a more serious Briefing Rather than a tv show where both sides are posturing. The second is i would democratize the room. Change the room makeup. On monday, let it be the Traditional Press corps. Tuesday, business journalists. Wednesday, foreign journalists. Thursday i would love to think progress. Let them ask questions. It would be social media day. On friday, go back to the White House Press corps. You will get more substantive. I was the unpopular guy among my tv colleagues. I am i believe televised briefing destroyed it. So does everybody involved. The reality i miss the gaggle. You get more information out of you at the gaggle. Thats when you should go and you and you. Thats why i would take it off of live tv. I would keep it so they can use clips. After september 11th, this country needed to hear the live messages from the white house. There is a room and a time and a does anyone think the press secretary is going to be standing in the room and trump will be sitting in the oval tweeting something that might make bigger news or contradict the think the critiquing the press secretary. I dont know that this conversation will hold up 60 days into the Trump Presidency. The idea that he will be able to tolerate watching someone at a podium delivering news that he thinks he can do better from his whatever he tweets from is an assumption im not comfortable making. By the way, thats something you guys all i think never have had to experience, which is a principal that will go off the reservation a lot and not tell you the people in charge of sort of its his reservation. His staff has to catch up. What the staff thinks is the guardrails that they were trying to put up. The difference is probably the most part of having the job is staying close to the president so you know what he is thinking, you know what he is doing. At least following him on twitter. In this case, the president this president is not doesnt like to share his views with his inner circle. He wants to share it with the world first. Everything is a trial balloon. Nothing is real. Theres nothing that gets that he tweets thats written in stone, because everything he does is to get a reaction and to judge. People didnt like that, i wont do that. Thats not operative anymore. It does go back to i think the nixon days where poor ron ziegler you are too young. But had to go out and someone would say, you told us yesterday this. He said, yesterdays news is not operative. The real communicator here is donald trump. We have to see how donald trump handles the huge power he will have as the president and communicator. Theres one other job you have that people dont realize unless you are a member of the White House Press corps and go overseas. You go overseas, were all on the same team. Theres fights that take place overseas when it comes to press access, more in the small d democratic way. Every press secretary has fought for this in different ways. This is something that i will be honest some White House Press corps are concerned, is that going to be there with this team. Are they going to be the protectors of the American Press freedom in china . I remember fighting with some members of our press corps sometimes. And i said when they would get their back up, i said, dont yell at me because when i walk back through that door, im the only person that gives a hoot whether you get what you want before 5 00 p. M. Today. Theres a phrase that all president s eventually get when they look at their spokesman or communicator. It is your friends in the press. Like you own them and it is president is playing you as if you work for us, right . There is a bigger thing here which is you do have to fight for access. Not to get too serious here, what we do here does have an impact around the world. We do believe in democracy. We do believe in a free press. And when we undermine it the rest of the world is watching. When we go to russia, which is always a fight, china, always a fight, on access things, it sends a message to the people there that a president of the United States will say, im not going into that meeting unless my press corps can come. When were doing that here, thats a problem. One of the little known parts of the job is your desk sits between the front door of the oval office and the podium in the briefing room. The press secretary is paid to represent the president. But you also have to work with and represent the press corps. Its a terrible balancing act. I think its harder for these guys. It gets harder because he made so many of them our own correspondents personal targets. One of the things im most hopeful will start is the targeting by name of individual journalists in that room. Because going people dont understand its the one thing i asked of him. Hit the organization, not the person. The people that cover him will wake up every day and go to work at the white house. Thats their place of business. Their desks are under the briefing room. People dont realize that. They dont work in a far away bureau. The real down side for the president is, he helped his election bid by undermining the press and having people trust the press less. He is going to find a time where he needs the press to send this message both here and around the world. And thats the real trick. Thats a transition he is going to have to make. Give him credit. He goes around the press and through the press. Since election day, he has done interviews with today, with 60 minutes, New York Times, wall street journal, time. In every one of the interviews, there was the Important Message was, people out there trust me. Dont trust what you read or you see. The problem is that theres going to be a point at which at a time of crisis he does need a press to get his message out. I believe. You guys delivered. This was a fascinating discussion. I will get yelled at by my television colleagues for wanting to get rid of the televised briefing. A lot of fun here. Turning the tables. When we come back from press secretaries to press critics. I sit down with four people whose job it is to cover the people who cover the president. In other words, us, the media. Welcome to the world 2116, you can fly across town in minutes or across the globe in under an hour. Whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. In less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. And if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. they tell me im wrong whoa, talkin bout my love we all want whats best for our kids. Introducing mcdonalds new chicken mcnuggets. 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One of the things that i liked best about the campaign trail was watching candidates get grilled by voters in places like New Hampshire where people would just be able to walk right pressing questions of their lives. The kindness of iowa voters was one of my favorite parts of the campaign trail. There was this one time i remember i was at the iowa state fair, very much lost and confused. A farmer came up to me and showed me around, helped me understand where i was inside the pig barn at the time. He said, i want to do this for you because i hope if my son ever goes to new york, someone would be kind enough to do the same for him. My most memorable interaction with donald trump was when i was taken into the buffer area around the stage over a rally during christmas and asked to shoot cuts of the candidate up close, which is a normal piece of being on the campaign trail. As i got up there, i was holding my camera. And donald trump in the middle of his speech turned and pointed to me and said look, here we have nbc. Theyre supposed to be back there. But thats okay. That was probably the most memorable and definitely the most bizarre interaction. One of my favorite moments from the campaign trail happened in new hamhi bush was on a bus tour. It was in the middle of a snowstorm. Im outside the bus with my camera raised ready to film him. As he is walking by me, he bends down and he forms a snowball and throws it at me. He gets this big laugh out of it. It was this moment that i will always remember his personality really shining through. You cant do anything about it. Thats not fair, actually. The night mike pences plane goes off the runway, new york city, rain coming down, the plane lands. It veers, started to smell the rubber come up. Its one of the moments where you still got a job to do. You pick up the camera and start filming. You realize, you cant believe this is happening. 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A few days ago we decided to bring together four people who make it their business to tell us what were doing wrong and on some occasions what were actually trying to do right. David, hal, claire and gabe, who is also an nbc news media analyst. You have a president right now president elect but a president who made no bones that he wants an antagonistic relationship with the press corps. Its almost he is almost goading the press corps, goading folks like us to have an antagonistic relationship. Not since nixon has that been this up front and perhaps not even it wasnt even that up front then. I think thats right. I think he prospered politically by being hostile to the press, suggesting he would create policies, make libel laws easy, Reince Priebus saying they will perhaps dispense with briefings in the white house. To show his hostility to the press in a way that makes it hard to have that usual kif fact that this could be a conventional presidency, it would be a successful one. It could be one that ultimately has some notions of transparency and accountability. But i dont think it needs to sit back on its heels and find out agnostically. It has to sort of operate on a split track where it really watches the president s rhetoric and his administration, but also saying, were going to watch rules, the regulations, what we dispose of from the obama administration. So if any report that donald trump doesnt like and you have the president of the United States tweeting out, dont believe the nbc nightly news, dont believe the New York Times, they dont know what theyre talking about, his people are not going to believe the New York Times, theyre not going to believe nbc nightly news. What do you do as a member of the press when you have that where he is telling essentially half the country, ignore . Keep going. Keep doing your job. You are serving the whole public, not just mr. Trumps supporters. Keep remembering that. More people voted for other candidates than donald trump. Going back to that question, i would say his business is central. That needs to be explored. I think that has great repercussions for whats going to happen in the next four years. What are his connections with other countries, the family . I think thats central in the early days. Thats a big question will be ultimately how much does the media chase the shiny object that trump is throwing out each morning . The fact that he is tweeting is not news at this point. We have to cover what the president elect and the president says. But the fact that he is going to Say Something outrageous that becomes the focus of the coverage i think is abdicating the role which is the media should set the agenda in deciding the news. When the president says something we cover it. But we should not be pingponging back and forth from his tweets. What can the Washington Press corps learn from Donald Trumps tabloids of new york over the last 30 years . Thats a great question. Since you are at the New York Post. He is a creature of the New York Post and the tabloid world. And he loves it. Feature of our front pages for many years. Does love it. He obviously loves reading the paper as well. And i think he is a lover of all journalism. I think he reads things closely like you say. He is in contact with journalists. I feel like im an immigrant, obviously. Im from england. I voted for the first time in this election. And i was very taken aback by the results, as i think a lot of people were. And when im chatting with folks out there, they tell me two things. They tell me first that the media whiffed on this campaign completely. Heard that a million times. Then they tell me that they dont know whats real. Even very smart people tell me, i dont know what to believe anymore. And i think thats a really shocking thing that were in this world where people dont know what the facts are and if the facts are out there, then theres people denying them. It brings us to the whole world of fake news. I wanted to bring the up the topic of the economics of the media business. They are really dominated by google and facebook, Digital Advertising is going to be top tv for first time next year. 200 billion in ad spending on digital. Google and facebook have this huge role to play as members of the media fein theyre not actually employing journalists. People are getting their media from the fake news sites that are funded by google ad words, the stuff that turns up on faceok to ask users to flag fake news. So i think what this whole sounds