this living room is my favorite room in the house. glad, strength that saves. it's spectacular in every way. the focal point has to be this floor-to-ceiling window that showcases not just the beautiful lake, but downtown seattle and all the city lights. the architect designed this house to be a highly emotional one. and this room does that in spades. it's dramatic and beautiful everywhere you look. adjacent to the living room is this perfect interior media room. ring ring!... progresso! this is perfect for everyday gathering and tv watching. it's ok that your soup tastes like my homemade. it's our slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat icken. open house, maybe? apology accepted. i'm watching you soup people. the entire second floor of this house is devoted completely to the master. make it progresso or make it yourself once you walk across this boardwalk, some people think vegetables are boring. you arrive in the upper area of the office. but with green giant's delicious seasonings and blends, there's a lower office as well. we just may change their minds. the architecture of the home was influenced by seattle's long marine history. ho ho ho and in here, it really feels like you're green giant! on the bow of a ship with clean lines and beams, wonderful angles, and really unique custom windows. this week, what does an interior designer look for when shopping for a new home? we're on the house hunt with guy clark in new york. good modernist design is always about clarity plus, i get a behind-the-scenes tour of line and simplicity. with meredith viera on the set of her new talk show. and in this master suite, it really showcases that. but first, a magnificent modern lakefront gem just outside of seattle. from a built-in wardrobe to a built-in headboard to window -this home was designed by internationally seating that wraps through the entire room, celebrated architect wendell lovett. it really feels like you're in your own private state and it is the best example of art and architecture room on a very elegant yacht. you'll find in the northwest. this kitchen has everything in it that you need for cooking up for your friends and family. the cabinetry is an unusual wood called african anigre found in very few homes. welcome to open house. from the aluminum trim that borders the cabinets today i'm coming to you from a 4,000-square-foot loft in the heart of manhattan's trendy tribeca neighborhood. to the curtain wall of windows, everything in here this home is the perfect marriage was specific just to this residence. of the chic and industrial. from the kitchen, let's come straight into the formal dining area. whether it's casual or more elegant events, this is the perfect room in the house. you've got great access to the kitchen, beautiful lake vistas. and the more people you have, the better. because this special piece of furniture here, the buffet, actually is on wheels. you can move it and make it a bar, or remove it completely for large gatherings. whatever you want to celebrate, you can do it here. in washington, we are crazy about our salmon. and we've got one of the best docks around. the grading is open with steel and plastic to let light in to all the fish swimming underneath. it's a good home for them and also for your 40-foot yacht. thanks for stopping by this thoroughly modern medina estate. i'm off for my latte, but i hope you enjoyed the tour. -let us know what you think of this washington home on twitter with hashtag openhousetv. keep it right here. coming up, i go behind the scenes for a special tour on the set of meredith viera's new talk show that brings a little bit of her westchester home to the small screen. welcome back. now we take you on the set of meredith viera's new talk show. on the meredith viera show, she chats with real people tackling real issues. you'll notice that the set is very cozy, and that's no coincidence. meredith and the team designed the set to look exactly like her own home in westchester. it even includes some of our own furniture destroyed by her pets. i'm joined by meredith viera herself for a behind the scenes tour. ok, meredith. i know this is small, but i brought you a little housewarming gift. -oh, you're so sweet. -thank you so much for having me here today. -are you kidding? i love you. -i'm so glad that you live so close by, like a few floors. meredith: you're in my home now, home away from home. -let's talk about why you wanted the set to feel like your home. -i really wanted to do the show in my home, actually. that was the first plan. and my husband said no, that's not going to happen. -so you have an open door policy at your house? -i do. apparently i do. and if i couldn't do that, then i wanted to be second best. and that was this. -i'd love to look around so i feel like i'm actually visiting your house. -ok. well, this is supposed to be my family room. and this chair really is from our family room. and if you notice, it's a little worn around the edges, because we have to cats, felipe and sweet pea, and a dog jasper. -it has so much character. -it does. that's my word. thank you. -so much character. well, it feels so warm in here. and i love that you've actually brought in some pictures from your own house. are these your kids? -those are my kids when they were much younger enjoying ice cream. but that's a self portrait that lilly made when she was in kindergarten. i just love children's art. this sign over here is from my father's office. he was a family doc. really wonderful guy, so i wanted that. -how do you want people to feel when they're at your house? -comfortable. i want people to feel really comfortable and at ease so that you can really share experiences. -well, that's obviously how you want your show to feel, too. what are we going to expect from this show? -you're going to expect a lot. because i've done a lot to in almost 40 years in the business, so there's going to be storytelling for sure. i have to do that. there's going to be a lot of humor, because i'm crazy. and there's going to be opinion. i was with those women from the view for nine years, so there's some of that as well. real variety. but we also have a band, which is different for daytime. -all girl band, too. -all girl. the band leader is everett bradley with the e street band, and then the four fabulous female musicians. it's great. sara: what's over here in these areas? -that staircase over there actually leads nowhere. it's a little scary. if i send a guest up there, that's sort of a cue-- you're never coming back. -it's your [inaudible] from the alley. -exactly. -i know you love [inaudible], because there's got to be places to read. and i know that you brought some books in here. they brought replicas of some of the books that are actually in your house. -a lot of the books, yeah. because we have bookcases everywhere. we're big readers-- or big collectors of books. -tell me what this little nook is. -this is where john harris, our announcer, hangs out, in that chair. i can come over and sit with him. -nice spot. -yeah. and john and i have known each other for 20 years. i met him at a charity dinner where i was a waitress, and we just started talking. and we've been best friends ever since. -were you a good waitress? -i was an excellent. excellent. -ok. let's go check out the band area. -perfect. i'll show you. -how great is it that you have a band? -how great is it? it's fabulous. -in your house. -well, that's the whole idea. i thought, i'm having a bad day. wouldn't it be great to go home and a band is there? so i brought it up to the executives. wouldn't that be nice? and they went, what is the matter with you? but then when they saw everett, they went, ok. and it really helps also when you have an audience, just energy wise. it's great to have a band. and i wanted that energy here. it was important. -i feel like you get a whole other sense of you once you're here on the set and you get a feeling of the warmth and the comfort and genesity of spirit that you have, and i know you're going to convey that. -thank you. well, the idea is for people to come in to my home. -yes. well, you'll all be there. you'll see her soon. i can't wait. -thank you. -stick around. coming up, we're apartment hunting in new york city. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? 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(record scratch) you say and n' stuff tortillas old el paso says... start somewhere fresh welcome back. whether you're buying or selling, the real estate market cab be a confusing place to navigate, even for the most savvy among us. there are so many questions that come up. so we turned to our friends at coldwell banker for some answers. -hi. i'm frank d. isoldi with coldwell banker residential brokerage. if you have real estate questions, you're not alone. here at coldwell banker, we're here to help. so ask away. -what is better, to buy an old home or a new home? -that's a question we get often. a lot depends on personal preference and budget. a newer home will cost you a little bit more money upfront but will have less maintenance. however, i wouldn't neglect looking at an older home or a home that may need a little bit of work if your budget is a little tight. you may be able to get a home with great architectural details and also into a neighborhood that you wouldn't be able to afford otherwise. -when i'm touring a home with a broker, what should i really be looking for? -when touring a home with a broker, i think there are three essential things you should think about. the financial aspect-- how much does the house cost, what are the taxes, are there association fees? also the construction of the house-- does it need updating, is it going to need a roof repair, does it have central air conditioning, how old is the furnace? and then finally, the emotional aspect of it. is it near town or near an elementary school or place of worship that's important to you, or is it close to family and friends? if you come to the house prepared with a list, it will give the agent a chance to give you a much more thorough tour of the property. -what's the benefits of living in metropolitan area raising a family versus living in a more suburban area? -i get that question a lot. and there's actually benefits to both. in the city, you have a lot of cultural opportunities-- fine dining, the arts, and endless entertainment. in the suburbs, you may get a little bit more house for your money. you will have a yard where you can do outdoor barbecuing, maybe have a pool. most importantly, you should choose a home that fits your family's need and is going to make them happy. -what is the best thing i can do to make my house ready for resale? -kitchens and bathroom is a great place to put your money. in the kitchen, for instance, you can upgrade your appliances to newer models. you can change up the hardware on your cabinets. and in the bathroom, simply changing a vanity will go a long way. and don't forget the outside of the house, because first impressions are key. make sure the flower beds are mulched and you have proper plantings. -so when is the best time to buy or sell? -historically, the spring market is a great time to buy or sell real estate. from the seller's standpoint, you have the biggest buyer pool entering the market in the spring. from a buyer's side, hopefully you can find a home, close, and be settled before september. however, it's never too early to contact a real estate professional to prepare for the market that's right for you. -what are some of the surprises that a first-time homebuyer can expect with their first purchase? -hopefully if you're working with a qualified broker, there won't be any surprises at the closing. but there are things that you should be aware of beyond the purchase price. for instance, closing costs will run you about 2% to 7%. included in that are title insurance, prepaid taxes, and also your homeowner's insurance. thanks, everyone, for all your excellent questions. just remember, you can reach out to your coldwell broker at any time. for more information, you can go to coldwellbanker.com. we're always here to help. -coming up, what does an interior designer look for when shopping for a new home? we'll find out when we return. narrator: coldwell banker real estate. fulfilling dreams for over 108 years. all the hassle that comes with thouselling or trading in. of we make selling your car, truck or suv, fast, safe and fair with three simple steps: one -- get your free online valuation. two -- drive to your local car-buying center. three -- walk out with a check in as little as thirty minutes. buying cars is all we do. all makes and models and no dealership pressure we'll even settle your loan or lease. so, don't wait. get your free online valuation now at webuyanycar.com. -you're watching open house. now we're on the hunt for a luxury home in new york city. renowned interior designer guy clark had outgrown his apartment and is searching for a new pad. with a budget of $4 million, will broker karen connolly find a place that's a perfect fit for this creative artist? -my name is guy clark. i'm an interior designer based here in new york city. today, i'm actually shopping for my own apartment, not for a client's apartment. it's a little bit different. -hi. i'm karen connolly. i'm here to take guy clark out today to find him an apartment in manhattan. the first apartment we're going to look at is a brand new condominium in new york city, ultra modern, with magnificent views. the second property we're going to look at is a park avenue much more traditional apartment. -hello. -hi, how are you? -hi sweetie. -good seeing you. -you too. -come on in. take off your coat. -all right. ok, karen, what do we got here? -we're going to see today, three bedrooms, three baths, and apartment with great views, and has lots of space for you to have fun in. here you have a nice, open kitchen with a built-in refrigerator, stove, nice bar area here. and i know you like to entertain a lot. -that's true. that's true. -this is a great area for that. -it's nice. -here we have the master suite where you can see the beautiful wood floors, the beautiful broad windows, and this nice baseboard molding that goes throughout the entire perimeter. -the ceilings are really tall here, too. -very, very tall. at least over nine, 10 feet. and you asked for a bedroom that could accommodate a king beg. you also have a little bit of sitting area and a nice, large dresser. -yeah. there's plenty of room here. -to our left, every new yorker's desire. -wow. now that's a closet. -a fourth bedroom, maybe. -a fourth bedroom. -so let me take you along and i'll show you the bathroom. -ok. -that was really great. i love the neutral tones of the gray, the beige, and the light brown. it works perfectly. and i also love-- there's two sinks in the master, which is really what you need to keep a relationship happy. -let's take a look at the rest of the apartment and see how you feel. so what did you think? -i love it. this space is great. the light is fabulous. i like the configuration of the rooms. and i do like the fact that it's all open. -so guy, i'm thrilled i hit a home run on the first look. but we have one more apartment to see. -great. i'm looking forward to it. -perfect. let's go. -ok. -will guy clark find a sweeter deal on park avenue? we'll be right back to find out. we're back with broker karen connolly and interior designer guy clark. karen has already shown guy a modern apartment on the upper east side with amazing views of the city. but now they're heading to a different sort of apartment on fabled park avenue. let's see if this property has what it takes to keep guy impressed. -guy, this is the second apartment we planned for today. dramatically different than what we've seen before. -it certainly is. -so i say let's take off our coats and go get 'em. -ok. i'm ready. -it's interesting to see the comparison. this one, it has a lot more interest than the last one. it's got moldings and marble and crown and lots of things going on. -it's much more classic. we have a living room, a formal dining room, and two huge bedrooms. -ok. well, let's see the rest of it. -i basically like this living room. it's a nice size. look at this. we've got three sofas in here. so it's big enough for entertaining space. and we've also got the decorative fireplace, which is pretty cool. -and it gives it a nice, warm touch. -exactly. wow. look at this expanse, karen. this is great, this big window facing park avenue. -we have a seat here. you can sit down and just gaze and enjoy the-- -and look at the view, interior and exterior. -exactly. so guy, let's check the dining room here, which is a very, very rare feature in new york. -yeah. to have a formal dining room this scale is amazing. -right in here, you can see you can sit almost 16 people comfortably. -great for entertaining, and i love to entertain. -i know you do. -ok, karen. i'm dying to know, what's behind this grand entryway? -come follow me, and i'll show you a great surprise. -ok. wow. this is a big bedroom. and it's got so much furniture in it that it's really even bigger than it appears. i mean, think about it. if you took the armoire and the screen and the chairs out of it, it's a big bedroom. -guy, there are a bunch of rooms we haven't seen yet. so let's go out and explore. -ok. let's go. -what did you think of the two apartments? -i like them both for completely different reasons. one is very modern and very clean aesthetically. but then you have this one in a different neighborhood right on park avenue. and this one is a little cozier, but also more formal. you have a formal dining room, which i love. i don't know. i think that if i had to pick one today, i might pick this one. but i couldn't make the decision alone. i'd have to let my partner come back and take a look. -which is very important, because it's the two of you living here together. -that's right. working with karen is a trip, because we've know each other so long and we're like best friends. so as a broker, what more could i ask for? someone that's truthful and honest and shows me really what i want to see. -both of these apartments are great choices. so i know he's going to make the right choice. he's very decisive. he has great taste. and he can just see through any apartment to see what he can do with it to suit his lifestyle. -well, that's all for now. tell us which home you loved the most on twitter with hashtag openhousetv. and if you've missed something on today's show, head to openhousetv.com. you can also join our facebook family and follow us on twitter at openhousetv. tune in next week for more beautiful homes and design tips. thanks for stopping in. i'm sara gore, and i'll see you next time. a go ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less. you say avocado old el paso says... zesty chicken and avocado tacos in our stand 'n stuff tortillas . (record scratch) you say and n' stuff tortillas old el paso says... start somewhere fresh this sunday, tension in america on two fronts, race and immigration. in ferguson, missouri, ground zero for racial tensions. >> once you push so far, what do you do? you fight back. >> the governor preemptive lly prepares for a state of emergency. >> and an officer awaits the decision of whether or not he is going to be indicted for the murd er of a unarnled teen the ager. and damaging the presidency. >> he did it himself. >> and unveiling a sweeping executive a action to giv 5 million immigrants the right to live and work in this country legally. >> the system is broken and everybody knows it. and an icon accused. bill cosby under the allegations of sexual assault while a tv deal is canceled and venues cancel shows. and marian berry died overnight at the age of 78, former mayor of washington, d.c. joining me is joe scarbrough, and former governor bill richard zorn, and amy klobuchar and bill richardson. welcome to "meet the press." this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. two big stories dominating the news this sunday. we will go live to ferguson, missouri, in a few minutes, but it is the aftermath of the president's decision on immigration. in total about 5 million undocumented immigrants are shielded are from deportation under president obama's plan. who are the 5 million? 4 million undocumented parents of legal american residents and 300,000 are young people who were brought to the country illegal h ly but when they were children, and the plan also affects children who were in the u.s. for five years or more and they can pass a background check. and who is not there? 6 million who are not covered at all and no pathway for citizenship for those who are not covered. and also, tougher border security promise and the deportation security promised. and on the gop, they are unified for one issue, how they describe the president. >> he is not an emperor, but he is sure acting like one. >> unaccountable monarch. >> and now the question is whether or not repubcans can get a bill passed through congre congre. the president says he has done his part. >> i cajoled and i call and i met. i told john boehner, you know, i will wash your car, and i will walk your dog, whatever you need to do, just, just call the the bill. >> i i asked my colleague john yang to go to arizona to get a firsthand look at how people on. >> reporter: el mirage is a place where the president's immigration policies become real and potentially changing lives. >> i am going to be able to go to college now. >> reporter: myra gomez brought here by her parents ten years ago from el salvador is now eligible for protection. what do you want to study? >> i want to study to be a nurse and then a detective. >> reporter: and maria flores watched the president on her laptop the at soccer practice. how did you feel this is. >> i felt happy, because my mom is going to be able to come out of the shadows. >> reporter: and she is citizen, because she was born in arizona, but her mom is an undocumented mexican citizen, and now her mom can work legally and not worry about being deported. tell me what is it like to be living in the shadows. >> it is a big thing, because a lot of people are like scared of the sheriffs, getting deported or not seeing their families ever again. >> reporter: this is maricopa county where sheriff joe arpaio is known for his tough stand on immigration, and he is already vowing to sue for the policy and calling it a free pass for the the undocumented immigrants. >> what about the people who come into the country and wait for years to get in here, and they do it the right way and how do you think they feel when you are giving to get out of jail free card to these 5 million people? >> reporter: and we asked a number of republican groups for comments, but they declined. el mirage was founded by migrant workers from mexico who came here to put down roots on their own, and today, there are descendents who are documented an undocumented who still play a crucial role in the area economy, and nobody knows how many already work in farms or restaurants or in construction. what would it mean to this community if everybody who was undocumented was deported? >> well, it would become a ghost town. it would be empty. >> reporter: fourth generation fa farmer kevin rogers says he helps the agriculture get the workers they need. >> today's folks don't want to work in the fields and they don't want to drive the hay bailer at 4:00 in the morning, and harvest the lettuce and even at $10 or $15 an hour, they choose not to do it. >> reporter:r and for maria, it means going to college. >> it means going to college and not going through what my mom went through. >> reporter: a kind of future that anyone would want for the next generation. john yang, arizona. >> again a lot of republican groups in arizona did not want to respond on camera when we sent our reporter down there. and no the so-called group of eight. they drafted the bipartisan bill in 2008 that passed the senate only to essentially die in the house, though technically a few more weeks in the session there. republican jeff flake of arizona, and democrat bob menendez of new jersey, and senator flake, let me start with you sh you, maricopa sheriff joe arpaio, and his lawsuit and possibly a koum more that states may file, and do you support the arpaio lawsuit against the president? well, what we need to do is to put the legislation on the president's desk. you know, the president has addressed one small portion of what needs to be done with immigration reform. we have to do the border security, interior enforcement, and guest worker plan, and deal with those here illegally, and he has done one portion of the ladder, and i would rather move all portions and put oit on the desk. that is my approach. >> so i understand that, but for or against the lawsuit? >> i have not even seen the lawsuit and i don't know what it contains. >> do you think it is appropriate to sue the president on the action? >> i think that the president moved beyond his authority, and no less than the washington post editorial board has opined about that. having said that, from myle role in the senate, i think that we ought to put the legislation on the president's desk, and that ought to be be the response. >> senator menendez, let me pick up on the legal case here. the question is whether the president can be impacting millions of people with prosecutorial discretion and things like that, and are you comfortable that this meets a constitutional test? >> oh, absolutely. look, 11 presidents going back to president eisenhower on 39 separate occasions, issued executive actions on immigration over the last 60 years. and the most e recent sig miff can't one was president reagan and the first president bush who issued executive a actions that protected 1.5 million undocumented people in the country, and just about 40% of all of the undocumented in the country at the time, and over 100 constitutional law professors in the country have issued statements to the president before he acted that this is well within his authority. so, look, as a reresult of the president's actions more felons will be e deported, and more border patrol at the southern border, and more people will pay taxes, and more families will be able to stay together, and those are the goals that are worthy of being achieved. >> senator flake, is there -- are you against the policy that the president is implementing, because it does not sound like that y are? >> no, we did much of what the president did, and in fact, we went further in the senate bill, and in almost every piece of the comprehensive or other immigration legislation that has been proposed in congress did at least what the president did, but the problem is that the way he did it is going to be making it dif can cult to move t-- dif the other parts of immigration reform that we need, and he will make it more difficult because of owhat he did. >> and that is the point that because he did this, no urgency to pass immigration reform in congress? >> well, not farther from the truth. look, the bill that senator flake and i put together along with others that got 68 of 100 votes in the senate, we don't get those types of votes on major contentious issues, and with we did over a year and a half, an languishing in the house. they have time to pass that dill bill and do the comprehensive nature that will strengthen the security, promote our economy, and preserve the history as a nation of immigrants, and so there is still clearly a persistent urgent needed to do that. the president could not and did not extend his legal authority beyond that which he could, a and this is why he could not deal with the whole issue, and the congress did it, and the house needs to act and only one person who stopped us from achieving that, and that is speaker boehner. put the bill on the floor and it would pass and we would move forward. >> i want to table immigration for a second and ask you both a quick foreign policy question. the house senate relations committee released a benghazi report, and findings, no intelligence failure prior to the attacks, the security at cia facilities sufficient, and security at state department facilities inadequate, and some of the talk thing points that susan rice used were wrong, and no wrong dogs, and none of the conspiracies found, and is it time for the republicans to drop the benghazi conspiracy theory? >> i always thought that the benghazi problem was the way it was cast by the administration, and the remarks of susan rice flew in the face of what we knew was going on, but with regard to other things going on that were addressed with the report, yes, i thought that for a long time we should move e beyond that. >> and senator menendez, the president has said that he will be expanding the troops in afghanistan beyond 2014, and president joe biden famously said in 2011, they are getting out of there in 2014 come hell or highwater, and that is not go going to happen. are you comfortable with the president's decision? >> well, look, we have to preserve the essence of what we a achieved in afghanistan in pursuit of our own national interests and national security which means making sure that the taliban is not resurgent, and along the afghanistan/pakistan border that we deal with the remnants of al qaeda there, and i think that the actions are appropriate, and in the other issue, i am glad that the witch hunt is over, and that is a bipartisan report, and it is time to move forward and have the aem embassy security that the xhoit tee passed. >> is benghazi a lesson learned for what is going on in iraq? >> well, they are not exactly the same, and in afghanistan this leadership, the new presidency invited us and has signed a bilateral security agreement essential for us to have the troops there, and in iraq, we could not get former prime minister maliki to agree to that, and that is a big difference. >> senator bob me mendez and senator jeff flake, thank you both for joining me. and i want to bring in joe scarbrough and reporter jose diaz belart. now, bush's plan for undocumented immigrants, this is the plan, 63% approved it, but now, here comes the republicans for president bush, a smaller majority, but a majority were in favor in 2006, and essentially the same plan that president obama is pushing and guess what, near 80% of the republicans opposing it, and are you shocked that the political party of the president matters so much? >> well, the are republicans and the democrats turned further on president bush, and turned further on john mccain and almost cost him the presidential campaign to go under. so this is a tough decision for either party to approach. but for the republican party, and i think that the president has overstepped the bounds and wh he has done may be proven to be unconstitutional if you look at the case law and go back to youngstown. and if you go to look at impeachment, and political suicide and shutdowns, and political suicide and de-funding, it is not possible. what do you do? you get a system right now that has 11.3 illegal immigrants in the country, and you can only deport 400,000 a year, you will defund the agencies more? so it looks like it is turning to the supreme court makes the most sense, and if they just use the words that president obama used in 2011, 2012, 2013, where he said -- >> well, hang on, joe, i will play them so you don't have to read it. >> this is not how the democracy works or how the constitution works. >> because i want to set up jose here, and i want to set up the remarks of the president, himself, questioning the the legal authority. >> there are enough laws on the books by congress that are very clear in terms of how we need to enforce the immigration system and for me to simply through the executive order to ignore the congressional mandates would not c conform with my appropriate role as president. we start broadening that, then essentially, i would be ignor ignoring the law in a way that would be illegal. i'm not the emperor of the united states, and my law is to execute the laws of the united states. >> jose, you have researched this and you are finding many scholars with disagreement of this. >> yes, in context, that is january 30th, 2013, and the first time he went back to dell sol high school. >> and he was cajoled. >> and optimistic and i have tell you that he did not feel that he had the authority, and that is a very specific question that i asked him and about the docu-parents, and he did not include, and this is important point, and on the statement of immigration, h and this is not a wishy washy president. and he has deported the entire population of houston to deport someone. every single time someone is e deported the question that someone asks is what about the kids born in the united states of america, and should they have their families destroyed, because their parents are undocumented? and he is dealing with this issue, because the house of representatives didn't do squat. >> well, jose, you just, and i have to say this, and every time i see the white house or the democrats say he had to do this because congress wouldn't do anything on it, i know that there are liberal justices that cringe, and say, okay, that is what the separation of powers is for, and if you go back to controlling the precedent, the president's executive orders are are looked at most suspiciously when he does something against the will and -- >> stated, and you were with the president friday, and should he have been trying to, should he have given congress five more months and said, essentially, i will sign the order june 1st if you don't act? >> no, the president didn't take this action before the election respecting the will of -- >> you think it is the right call? >> no. i think that he should have done it, because i think that it would have increased the turnout in colorado. look, i was around and i am that old that i voted or the simpson mazzoli in 1986. and then president george herbert walker bush signed the executive order just like that, 1.46 million, and just like president obama did and no uproar because they did the right thing. >> but it is for a specific bill though, and that is what the presidential order worked, and not the make new policies. >> and but they had it -- >> and this is a critical point. that is pertaining to a 1986 bill passed by congress, and it is cleanup operation, and this is -- >> cleaning up the bill, and it is a difference, yes. >> and the president here is making new policy, because he does not like what the congress has not done and that is what makes all of the difference. >> it is surprising that the republicans knew it was coming and they are talking about, let's have a response, and this has been coming down the pike for months. something, anything. here is your bill. >> and the politics, 10 million families are now affected by this act and by the affordable care act, and they will be loyal. >> and yes. >> and so is maria and her family. >> and i have to apologize, because -- >> and that is why they have to pass lemg slagislation. >> we will is more on this. and the tension awaiting the grand jury decision in ferguson, missouri. 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>> yeah. i'm going to be me. i'm not going to join the commission and be a sellout. >> reporter: at 20, he is the youngest member, a student who washes cars to help pay for college with goals well beyond justice for michael brown. do you think they will indict the officer? >> no. >> reporter: you don't? >> if there was an indictment we would continue to be out there trying to seek change. change is changing the system, the justice system. people are not in the system for time that they don't need to be in. change could be a livable wage for people so they don't have to live paycheck to paycheck. >> reporter: the teion builds where the grand jury decision whether to charge the officer expected any day now. the governor declared a state of emergency criticized as too confrontational and too soon. he said it's his responsibility to protect public safety. >> i'm not preparing for war. i'm preparing for peace. >> reporter: now with protests planned in as many as 100 cities across the country, from los angeles to boston, the nation's top cop has called for everyone to take a deep breath. >> the justice department encourages law enforcement officials to work with the communities that they serve to minimize needless confrontation. >> reporter: back on the streets of ferguson, aldridge who sees this as a generational fight vows to be out there regardless what the grand jury decides with his young comrades. >> they understand this isn't the same standard civil rights protest. this is a group of folks who are just tired of being pushed against the wall. once you are pushed so far, what do do you? youí! fight back. >> reporter: here outside the courthouse this morning, you can place. we expect the grand jury to reconvene monday. it's unclear whether they will vote, unclear whether they will hear more evidence. it's a secret process. that's creating anxiety because people don't know what's going on. there's distrust, especially from the community of the victim. they don't trust this process as being fair. everyone taking precautions. a lot of businesses boarded up, barricades in place. we wait to see what the grand jury will do. chuck? >> ron, thanks very much. i'm joined from ferguson by anthony gray, a lawyer for michael brown, rudy jewly aknee who joins me from rockefeller center and michael eric dyson who is here in washington. mr. gray, ron allen brought up the anxiety of the process of the grand jury. to be effective, they need to be secretive. what are you concerned about in the process? are you concerned about the secrecy or that they are not going to indict? >> i'm not concerned they're not going to indict. i'm concerned about the process itself. there seems to have -- like you said before, there's a level of distrust over the process and those that are involved in the process that i think that that's adding a level of anxiety to this whole situation that doesn't have to be necessary had they done things a little bit differently in the beginning. >> do you believe if there's a trial, even if it's a trial that the cop is found innocent, mr. wilson is found -- officer wilson is found innocent, that having the trial itself will be therapeutic for the community? >> i think it may be therapeutic. but you got to understand, chuck, there are people that are locked and loaded into how they feel about this situation. anything short of reaching their full expectation will just never be satisfied. you got that small or maybe perhaps large group of people that feel that way. i'm not so sure if it will be therapeutic for them. it may be they arapeutic for th community. >> mayor, i'm curious what you thought of governor nixon's decision. you managed the largest city -- bigger than just about every -- most states. governor nixon declares a state of emergency not for a natural disaster. was that the right call? >> you know, it's hard to second guess a governor in a situation like that. what i would have done -- i have had -- i had three situations similar to this. i would have had a state of emergency, but i would have kept it quiet. i would have kept my police on alert. i would have kept them in places where you couldn't see them, be ready in a moment's notice to stop any kind of violence. but maybe not do it in advance. it's hard to second guess him. he had a tremendous amount of violence in august. had he not declared a state of emergency, he would get criticized for not doing it. what i'm concerned about is no one is elaining the grand jury to people. we're not educating people. grand juries are secret to protect innocent people. that's why they're secret. it's a federal crime to release information from a grand jury because a grand jury has a very low burden of proof, probable cause to commit a crime. and this grand jury is under incredible pressure, incredible pressure to indict. i feel sorry for these people, because they know if they walk out of that grand jury room and have not indicted, they may have created a massive riot in their city and maybe throughout the united states. to me, that kind of pressure is completely inconsistent with the american criminal justice system and the people who are putting on that pressure should be ashamed of themselves. >> michael, i want to go back to the decision to pre-emptively declare a state of emergency. it's interesting to say the mayor would have done it without telling anybody. that's the criticism. when troops march in with an expectation protest will become pry lent, it creates ugliness and conflict. the concern has become officer safety not to protect and serve the community. >> right. i mean, the mayor speaks about what's unconscionable and what should be indicted. what should be indicted is the criminal justice system that continues to impose undue burdens on african-american, latino and other poor people. number two, the police force is not to be an occupying force. it's there to be there to protect and serve. if you happen to be in the majority