Transcripts For WRC Late Night With Seth Meyers 20161213

The cia concluded this weekend that russia mounted an operation to influence the election, and help donald trump win which was exactly when trump realized he has been pronouncing cia wrong. Ladies and gentlemen, sia. Seth cia . [ laughter and applause ] its not a word. China reportedly flew a Nuclear Bomber over the South China Sea near taiwan in what is being viewed as a show of force against donald trump. But thats not how you get to him china. This is how you get to him. [ laughter and applause ] Senate Minority leader harry reid recently said in an interview that donald trump is not as bad as i thought he would be. Geez buddy, how low were your expectations . [ light laughter ] harry reid is the guy that gets a rat in his bucket at kfc and says well, theyre trying their best. [ light laughter ] it is extra crispy. Hillary clinton gave a speech last week criticizing the epidemic of fake news being spread, or maybe she didnt. [ light laughter ] wisconsin has finished its recount with donald trump beating Hillary Clinton by 162 more votes than his original total. And im not saying that russia had anything to do with that but heres a photo putin from earlier today. [ laughter and applause ] china its a good look. Chinas highest court ruled last week that Michael Jordan owns the rights to his name in chinese characters. I thought that meant bravery, said a girl with a lower back tattoo. [ light laughter ] plastic surgeons have reportedly begun offering botox treatments for the testicles called scrotox. [ light laughter ] just check out the after picture for this rejuvenated pair. [ laughter and applause ] Qantas Airlines is set to launch a new 17 ½ hour flight from australia to london, which will be the longest nonstop route in the world. Beating the current record, a road trip with your dad. No, were not stopping. Use the jug [ light laughter ] thats what the jugs for. And finally a sex shop in spain is facing criticism after making a nativity scene using ceramic dildos. Though people are mainly upset they took two of the dildos from the menorah. [ light laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight. [ cheers and applause ] she is the host and moderator of the talk on cbs, julie chen is with us this evening. You know her from scream queens on fox, billie lourd is stopping by. [ cheers and applause ] and, she is a New York Times columnist, and best selling author. Her latest book, the year of voting dangerously the derangement of american politics is out now, maureen dowd is stopping by the show. [ cheers and applause ] very excited about this. So on thursday, we made we did a piece, and in the piece i made fun of donald trump for his pronunciation of the word euphemism. Take a look. And then they played my statement and i said carrier will never leave, but that was a euphenism. Seth a euphanism . [ light laughter ] im not sure thats how you promounce that. [ light laughter ] thats right, because if you say a word wrong, im going to come down on you. I am sitting up on high, and i am watching and i am listening. But, what really undercut me, was the very next word i said i mispronounced and that word was also seth a euphanism . Im not sure thats how you promounce that. [ light laughter ] alfo what you said, was not a euphemism. Alfo. [ light laughter ] i take a guy down for getting euphemism wrong, and then i miss the two inch putt that is also. Im such a dickhead. [ applause ] let me clean my monocle, i believe the pronunciation is euphemism. Alfo. [ light laughter ] but, of course donald trump doesnt just mispronounce words. According to a new report, the cia has concluded that the russian government intervened in the 2016 election. Not just to undermine confidence in the result, but specifically to help donald trump win. For more on this its time for a closer look. [ applause ] seth if youre a president elect who has faced persistent questions throughout your campaign about your close ties to a foreign adversary, one easy way to show patriotism, would be to attend the annual armynavy game. Which is what trump did on saturday. But in an interview during the game, he could not suppress his inner twitter troll, offering this snarky comment. I just love the armed forces. Love the folks. Their spirit is so incredible. I mean, i dont know if its necessarily the best football, but its very good. Seth what is wrong with you . [ light laughter ] youre the president elect and youre dissing the armynavy game . I guess he thought it was going to be the actual army against the actual navy. [ light laughter ] this is so boring. No weapons. Hardly any causalities. Not a single sunk battleship. [ light laughter ] that comment might have caused a dust up. But it was overshadowed just slightly by the small matter of the cia accusing a foreign adversary of interfering in a president ial election to help one candidate win. Breaking news tonight, the Washington Post is now reporting that a secret cia report concluded, quote, that russia intervened in the 2016 election to help donald trump win the presidency. The cia believes the russian government tried to help elect donald trump. Releasing hacked Democratic Campaign emails. The top intelligence official tells abc that both democrats and republicans were targeted. But that only hack from the dnc was made public. Seth so, they only released the democrats emails not the republicans. Although to be fair, what could possibly be in the republican emails that was more embarrassing than what their candidate was saying out loud in public . [ light laughter ] donald trump is a hacked email come to life. Did you hear . Donald trump made fun of the disabled. In a private email . No, in a arena. [ laughter and applause ] now the Republican National committee claims it was not hacked so there is some dispute about that. Still you might expect an incoming president to take seriously the findings of the intelligence agencies that hell need to rely on as president. Instead trumps team slammed the cia in a statement that i think is fair to assume, came directly from him. These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of massive destruction. The election ended a long time ago in one of the Biggest Electoral College victories in history. Its now time to move on, and make America Great again. First of all it was not one of the Biggest Electoral College victories in history. It actually ranks 46th out of 58 president ial elections. To put that in sunday cable tv rating terms, trumps is not the walking dead, hes the barefoot contessa. [ light laughter ] second, what do you mean the election ended a long time ago . You mean five weeks ago . Put it this way, the cubs world series win was rec t previous world series win was a long time ago. [ laughter and applause ] of course this isnt this is not the first time trump has openly rejected the findings of the intelligence community. Both during, and after the campaign, he has repeatedly sought to downplay the possible role of russia in the hacks. Suggesting alternate theories for who might have been behind them. I mean, it could be russia. But it could also be china. It could also be lots of other people, it also could be somebody sitting on their bed, that weighs 400 pounds, okay . On tuesday he told time magazine, that quote, i dont believe they interfered. It could be russia, it could be china, and it could be some guy at his home in new jersey. Seth a 400 pound guy at his home in new jersey . Is he actively trying to frame Chris Christie . [ laughter and applause ] [ as trump ] it was a big guy from new jersey. He may or may not be standing right behind me. [ light laughter ] now, its always important to intelligence officials with a giant grain of salt. Thats why we need a full investigation, and all the evidence public. But even before that happens, trump has repeatedly rejected the intelligence communitys findings, despite being told in his own Intelligence Briefings that russia very likely committed the dnc hack. And not only has trump refused to believe the information presented to him in his briefings, hes not even taking those briefings that often. Cnn reported that trump is taking Intelligence Briefings only once a week. Trump defended himself on an interview on fox news sunday. You are getting the president ial daily brief only once a week. Well i get it when i need it. But, is there some skepticism . First of all these are very good people that are giving me the briefings. And i say, if something should change from this point, immediately call me im available on one minutes notice. I dont have to be told, you know im like, a smart person. Seth heres the thing about smart people. They dont go around telling people theyre smart. For instance youve never heard im like, a smart person. [ light laughter ] seth also im like, a smart person is a sentence that disproves itself. Its like getting a back tattoo that says, i make good decisions. [ light laughter ] still to be fair to trump the president elect does have a busy schedule and im sure hes spending his time on things way more important than daily Intelligence Briefings. Who wants a hat . [ cheers ] seth so hes not taking Intelligence Briefings, but he is giving away free hats. Hey, man, youre the president elect and not the phoenix suns gorilla. [ light laughter ] again, skepticism of anonymous claims from intelligence officials can be healthy, which is why we need a full investigation and the results need to be made public. Because right now trump, his spokespeople in the media, cant even agree on basic facts. Which at the very least has given us some fantastic new entries on a hit album now thats what i call white guys screaming at each other on the news. We have been working with the fbi. Why . We have Intelligence Experts here. Let m no, hang on, chuck. Do you categorically rule number one, cover that. My question about the rnc. Tell me a specific im not trying to parse it. I dont know who did the hacking, chuck. President elect trump is saying, move on, folks. Theres nothing to see here but i need to ask you an additional question. No. Speak to the point that wait, wait. Thats not true michael. I want you to address this. I dont think any foreign entity, any individual, any entity well why dont you say that . And why didnt trump say that. Im saying it, michael i just said it [ laughter ] im just an american whos trying to discern all that im reporting on no then answer the question, michael seth answer the question, michael no, you answer the question. What was the question . I dont remember [ light laughter ] what the question was. Of course, trump could easily reassure critics whos saying hes too close to russia, by denouncing russian influence in the election. But as he has repeatedly made clear he has a bizarre affection for vladimir putin, and his apparent choice for secretary of state isnt helping. Over the weekend, it was reported that trump had settled on exxon mobil ceo of course, with a name like rex tillerson, you can only be one of two things. Ceo of a Multinational Oil conglomerate, or a [ light laughter ] [ bark ] whats that rex . [ bark ] there was a Lunar Eclipse that night . The mayors lying. [ light laughter ] trump tweeted about the possible nomination on sunday quote, whether i choose him or not for state rex tillerson, the chairman and ceo of exxon mobil, is a world class player and deal maker stay tuned. Stop telling us to stay tuned. Your president elect for the next four years. Like it or not, were all [ bleep ] tuned. [ laughter and applause ] youre going to be the first president , who has commercial breaks in his state of the union. [ as trump ] and well have more on the heightening tensions with china, right after this message, from our sponsor, ivanka, trump hotels. [ light laughter ] i have no connection to them. Now, tillersons nomination among them the fact that our Foreign Policy could be, in effect, run by exxon mobile, a company that has been accused of covering up evidence of climate change. But, on top of that, tillerson, has close ties to putin. Who gave tillerson, the russian order of friendship medal in 2013 even republicans have expressed concerns about tillersons ties to russia. Like senator Lindsey Graham, who promised to question tillerson at his confirmation hearing. Senator Lindsey Graham told the Washington Post, i dont know the man much at all, but lets put it this way, if you received an award from the kremlin, order of friendship, then were going to have some talking. Seth thats right, sassafras. You better park your biscuits in that chair because were going to have some southern fried talking. [ light laughter ] were about to enter a potentially dangerous period. A president with a weird affinity for authoritarians and dictators appointing plutocrats to his cabinet and fighting with americas own intelligence agencies. I dont see how trump can get away with all of this. Unless he finds a way to distract us all for the next four years. Seth this has been a closer look. [ cheers and applause ] well be right back with julie chen, everybody. Come on why doesnt verizon offer unlimited data like tmobile . Is it because their lte network was built six years ago . Six years ago . Thats like a hundred. In phone years their lte network is older, slower and they limit you. Switch to tmobile, the newer, faster and unlimited network. We cover 99 of the americans verizon covers. Switch your family of four to tmobile and well give you 800 to spend anywhere you want. Just how wet and sticky your current gel antiperspirant is. Now were going to show you how degree dry spray is different. Degree dry spray. Degree. It wont let you down. [ cheers and applause ] seth welcome back to late night everybody. Please give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] also, were joined this week by an iconic drummer sitting in with the 8g band. Hes a two time grammy winner and cofounder of metal icon slayer and currently a member of suicidal tendencies whos album world gone mad is out now. Dave lombardo is here everybody. [ cheers and applause ] thank you so much for being here dave. Thank you, seth. Seth and incredibly good timing for an album called world gone mad. Our first guest cohosts the Emmy Award Winning show the talk which airs weekdays at 2 00 p. M. Please welcome to the show julie chen everybody. [ cheers and applause ] seth hi there. Thanks for having me. This feels very strange. Seth oh, why is it strange . Well because ive spent most of my career, if not all of it, at cbs. Seth yeah. And this is obviously on the competing network. Et what . This whole things a trap. [ laughter ] im ready for you. Seth its a trap. I feel like, and im used to interviewing people. Seth yeah. And not being the one interviewed. So i feel like id be more like my heart is racing. Seth really . And i do Live Television every day. I feel like, i would be more comfortable if you switched seats with me. Seth do you want to switch seats . Yeah, but the lighting directors gonna get mad. Because you look so good, and theyll be like, no, why did you let her switch seats . Seth well look, if at any point you do want to switch seats, okay great. No, thats your seat. Seth because, this is my best light. When i switch i look like a 100yearold woman. Yeah. Im sure you dont. Seth its true, it like theres a lot that has to go right for this to happen. Yeah. Seth speaking of something that would have had my heart beating you have been the host of big brother for 16 seasons. Its been on 18. Seth 18 seasons. Thats unbelievable. Yeah. Seth congratulations. Thank you and renewed for next summer, our 19th. Oh, congratulations, its 19. Yeah. Seth i hope you make 20. It would be a real bummer if you got cancelled after 19. Wouldnt it . I know seth because youd really dont take this the wrong way. Youd have to stink for them not to give you 20. Seth to get that close, and then say like, you were not gonna do it. You were good for 19, but things went sour. Yeah, no. Gosh, i hope im getting it right. Seth i think well i hope so too. But you had to maybe your Research Department is better. Seth i dont know. Sorry, go ahead. Seth probably not. You this summer you had people sort of cut themselves off from the world and from the news in september. And you actually had to be the one to told them the election results. Yes. Seth and that is not usually something that you do with the show. To break in with news. Right, the main rule is, in the big brother house, youre completely cutoff from the outside world. Seth right. And youre living among strangers. There were only six people left in the big brother house when the election happened and we broke the big rule. We said they, the producers, came to me and they said, we want you to reveal the results of the election. Because they wanted conversation, they want to see the reaction. Seth of course. So literally and i tape on thursdays. So they we the last six people. Seth yeah. In the entire universe to know seth exactly. Who won the president ial election of the united states. Seth was it so was it nice just to look at their faces before you told them and say, this is the last fresh snow in society before i tromp through it. I did feel like, ooh, i cant wait. Seth now heres my question. If the election had gone the other way you probably would not have broken in and told them. Actually, i think we probably would have just because were always looking for story seth sure. And content, you know, and it would be interesting to see everyones reaction. Whether they were rejoicing, or but i noticed when i told them about trump, not only were they shocked. But the smarter house guests stayed quiet because they knew that theyre on the internet and no matter what comes out of their mouth theyre automatically going to piss off half the country. Seth yeah. So they were just like, oh, really . Oh, oh. Seth was there did you they were trying even harder to stay in the house. You are naughty. Seth no, im just saying. You are seth maybe how did you get trump to do that bit. Sia . Seth sia . That was from when he hosted saturday night live. Oh. Seth i didnt get him how did i get him to do it . I called him up. Oh, no. Because seth i said, we have a really funny joke. I know theres an animosity between us. Its a killer. [ kiss sound ] youre gonna love it. I was going to say, you know, the guy has a sense of humor. Because you go at him, every night. Seth oh yeah, by the way. He doesnt. [ laughter and applause ] hes funny. I find him funny to watch. I dont think he has what you would define, a sense of humor. I think hes funny. I do, i will give him that. There are times where i laugh and go, oh, thats pretty funny. So i wanna well you used to cover politics and you used to do morning news. Yes. Seth and now with doing your current job is it nice at this current time, to be a little outside of talking about the daytoday of it all . You know, i have run into my old colleagues at cbs news. And we like to gossip and im like, wow youre going to have a really interesting four years. You could probably write a book. Seth sure. This is actually a very exciting time to cover the news. Seth i agree. But it could be very stressful. And i feel fortunate that at the talk when we want to talk about politics we can and we do. But we have been tasked with never letting the audience know what our politics are. We can talk about what donald trump tweeted and react to it but we cant totally show everyone how we voted or who we supported. Seth thats our plan here. [ laughter ] which is not easy. Yeah. [ applause ] im ready, lets go, lets go. And then anytime it gets a little uncomfortable we can just take a big sigh of relief and say, now lets get back to what we do with the talk. seth there you go. And talk about the kardashians, you know, stuff that really matters. Seth what i do, we are in an interesting time in american history. We say, thats too crazy. Lets go back to the kardashians. Or justin bieber. Seth or justin bieber. Hes given us a lot of good stuff. Seth you have we were talking backstage you have a 7yearold. Is that correct . Yes. First grader. Seth and you congratulations and you are celebrating an early christmas. Yes. Seth his idea, your idea . My idea because were actually going to be traveling seth sure. On Christmas Day and like you know when youre traveling who wants to have pack one more thing . Seth right. So, i didnt want it seth and a 7yearold thats a lot of presents. Thats an age where youve gotta have stuff for someone. Yeah, you know books, toys, stuff like that. Seth so how did you sell him on an early christmas . So i said well first of all i, personally, i was really concerned that santa wouldnt know where we are. Seth sure. So i said to charlie because were traveling were going to celebrate christmas early on sunday. We celebrated last night. Seth got you. And he didnt need to hear presents early. Seth yeah. So i was like, yes. But we had to write the letter to santa on saturday night. Left it under the tree. Carrots, cookies all that and santa is so clever. He wrote a letter back to charlie. Seth wow. Yeah. He said, you know charlie that was a long list you had. And you have been both naughty and nice so you youre not gonna everything on your list but you will get some things and because youre celebrating early santa needs time to work on this stuff. Like he asked for, i mean the list was ridiculous. He wanted a record player, certain vinyls, like sweet child of mine, appetite for destruction. Seth oh my goodness. Rebel yell. Seth hes 7. Hes 7 but i have been teaching him songs from my heyday to be honest. Seth sure, right, right. He wanted a disco ball, like roller skates, a skateboard. It was just too much. So santa said, you know if youre good when you get back home were working on the record player and some of the vinyls, not all of them. But if yourre bad and you dont listen to your parents. That wont be waiting for you when you get home. Seth so santa, had your back. Santa is a santa is like the third parent in this marriage. Seth thats fantastic. Were very progressive. Seth yeah. I love santa. Seth i like, by the way in my life i never had such a back and forth with santa where i asked for things and he explained that some of them were unreasonable. And that other things needed more time. Yeah, no. Give it a try. Seth i will. I mean as an adult, i think im writing a letter to santa for next year. Seth and i the fact that santa did that even though you left out carrots is just so no carrots are for the reindeer. Seth for the reindeer . Yes. Seth by the way, reindeer dont like carrots either. Everybody likes cookies. There were two left. We left nine. Seth oh you were youre on to something. Seth so, i want to ask about this. I want to show a piece of tape from your show, from the talk, and this is you doing a, quite a performance asdo before we show it, how much rehearsal did you do . Because this is something else. It was exhausting. Okay, so for halloween they said, the five ladies of the talk, have to pick it was lip sync battle. Seth right. So i had three scheduled days of rehearsal. Like the studio the show booked out a rehearsal space, we had a choreography, had backup dancers. The whole nine. And they said, well give you more time, if you want. But i said, no, no i got this. I had somebody record me, doing my rehearsal on my phone. And i would put it up in my bathroom and i was like, 5, 6, 7, 8. And it was ridiculous i would just practice and i found myself any time i walked past any mirror any reflection i would be walking down sunset boulevard and id see my reflection and i would be like, 5, 6, 7, 8. Pivot, pivot. Seth well it paid off. I hope. Seth lets look at your incredible well rehearsed work. Strike a pose [ cheers and applause ] seth now, i hope you werent wearing that outfit, when you were walking down sunset boulevard. No, thank good no i was not. Seth but, it was fantastic work by your Costume Department as well. You looked like a million dollars. Although, okay if youre at home right now, google there was a movie in the 90s called farewell by concubine. Seth sure. About chinese opera. At one point i looked at myself, im like, oh my gosh. Do i look like that guy who was in drag in farewell my concubine . but he was very you know, i mean his make up was on point so i was like its okay if i do. Seth you put him to shame. Thank you. Seth and thank you so much for being here. Its such a pleasure to have you. Thanks, seth. Seth julie chen everybody, the talk airs weekdays at 2 00 p. M. Well be right back with billie lourd. [ cheers and applause ] i got it, dad. Ow we love to keep them safe. So we made the Nest Protect Smoke and Carbon Monoxide alarm. It speaks up and can alert your phone if theres a problem. Or let you know if everything is just fine. Because, ya know, we worry. At the lexus december to remember sales event. 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I thought they were just moans you did to let the other person know to roll off of you, like an, im ready for you to stop alarm. Thats terrible. Orgasms are pretty much the only thing that everyone in the world agrees are great. Well until hamilton came along. [ laughter ] its so original, right . Reinvented the theater. Seth please welcome to the show billie lourd, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] seth welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. You here. For those who dont watch the show, the earmuffs you wear in the scene that is not just because you were cold in that scene. You wear the earmuffs constantly. That is what your character does. That is my thing. Seth and your mother is carrie fisher. And is it true . Its true. Seth did you not know . Oh my god. We break news here. [ laughter ] okay, just gonna take that in for a second. Seth but your earmuffs are an homage, theyre a Princess Leia homage. They are a little bit of a Princess Leia homage. Seth thats fantastic. Its kind of a family tradition. I saw them in the fitting and i was immediately gravitated towards them because i had to be. It didnt turn it didnt start out as a plot point. I just went into the fitting, saw them. Seth yes. You know, recognized my family heritage. Seth which is to have weird things over your ears. Which is to have weird things over your ears and cover them all the time. And then brad falchuk, one of the writers of the show, wrote it into the show, like in the third episode. And it was because my ex boyfriend was so obsessed with my ears that he threatened to cut them off if he ever saw them again. So youre wearing the earmuffs as protection. Of course. Yes. 100 . Seth as an actress how is it wearing earmuffs all day on set . It can get tough. Seth yeah. Its kind of like being a wrestler and having your head smushed into the floor all the time. Seth so not great. So not ideal. Seth yeah. Or like not everybody is a wrestler. So, its also like wearing head phones on a plane for a really long time. Seth yeah. And it kind of hurts and you have to like pull at your ears and they make that weird cracking sound. Seth oh, thats not good. Thats like a big part of my life. Seth but overall your hearing is pretty consistent . What . [ laughter ] seth so ryan murphy created this show and sort of the process where you got cast as this character was not sort of conventional. You were just talking to him. Definitely not conventional. I went to one of my dads friends birthday parties and happened to be sat next to ryan. And we had a few too many glasses of wine and started exchanging stories about sex that i cant tell on the air obviously. Seth got you. Sorry. Backstage and i then ill tell everybody tomorrow. Exactly. Yeah. [ light laughter ] exactly. Good plan. And then basically he pointed at me at one point and was like youre number three. And i was like, who the hell is that. Hes like, come into my office later this week. And i came in and i read with him and ended up in new orleans a couple weeks later playing this insane character. Seth thats fantastic. Yeah. Seth so i think the take away is if youre ever at a dinner party, drink wine and tell people sex stories. Absolutely. Thats my motto. Seth that is the key to success. Speaking of mottos, obviously your mother a famous actress. Your grandmother Debbie Reynolds also a famous actress. And has she she actually has given you real advice about being an actress. Shes given me well first of all she gets really upset when i get called carrie fishers daughter. She wants people to call me Debbie Reynolds granddaughter. Seth got you. Its very offensive for her. Seth oh, she doesnt like to be cut out of the supply chain. She does not like to be cut out yeah, not at all. She started it. Seth oh, yeah. Exactly. So its her fault. So when i first starting acting, everyone in my family did not want me to act. It was like, im really rebelling by doing this. House and had a binder of these diaries that she had written when she first started doing singing in the rain. And she sat me down on her couch and said, okay, i need you read these dear, in her 50s actress voice. And i started reading them to myself and she said, no dear. Please read them out loud. And i started reading them and theyre all second person and they are somewhere along the lines of just sitting in the make up chair. Its 5 00 in the morning. Theyve pulled all your eyebrows and you have no eyelashes left. Your hair is a shell of itself and all you wanted to be was a gym teacher. [ laughter ] so i read this out loud and kind of looked at her like, okay. And she looked at me so earnestly with her, like, hands crossed in her lap and it was like, are you sure you still want to be an actress dear . And i was like, yeah, i think i i think its different now. I think im gonna be able to keep my eyebrows. I dont think theyre gonna put a wig on me. I got, like, long hair. Its like, fine. So im gonna go for it. Seth i like that she thought you would close the diary and say no. I want to be a gym teacher. Now, i want to be a gym teacher. [ laughter ] seth you would of finally they get to keep their eyebrows. That sounds like the dream career. Seth now obviously from the clip, as we saw, this might not be a show that you would think is grandmother friendly. But she is a fan of scream queens. She is a huge fan. I mean shes a fan of anything that involves a lot of fur. Shes real seth oh, gotcha. She misses that in film and tv. So the fact that were all clad in fur earmuffs and fur jackets, its her dream show. Seth well there you go. Im so glad thats its fulfilling her dream. And im sure shes incredibly happy to get to watch you doing it as well. She is. Seth thank you for being here. Its such a pleasure. Yeah, of course. Thank you so much for having me. Seth billie lourd everybody. 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Iand thanks to target, i got to the after party this nice little outfit just in time using order pickup. Stay fresh get last minute gifts with order pickup at target. Run, run, run, run, running run, run, run, run, running theres nothing in this life thats ever bringing me down she said dont you ever ever, ever run, run, run, run, running whoa, papa, run and let roomba from irobot help with your everyday messes. Roomba navigates your entire home. Cleaning up pet hair and debris for up to 2 hours. Which means your floors are always clean. Better. Together. [ cheers and applause ] seth welcome back, everybody. Our next guest is a Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for the New York Times and a best selling author. Her new book the year of voting dangerously and the derangement of american politics is in stores now. Please welcome to the show maureen dowd. [ cheers and applause ] seth so happy youre here. How are you, maureen . Im so nervous. Seth youre so nervous . But you interview people all the time. Why are you nervous by being interviewed . I just think tv is really scary. Seth yeah. It is really scary. Its super weird and its super scary. But this is a fantastically timed book about not just this ec the years. And you have a long history with donald trump who is someone you write about at length in this book. You go back to old interviews. Tell us about your first interaction with him. I guess it was in the 80s. Right. So in 1988 i met him for the first time. I was covering the Republican Convention and i asked him if he wanted to have coffee one morning. He was attending and i said, how is your day going . And he goes great. I bought the plaza hotel this morning. And that was a typical trump conversation. Seth yeah. Yeah. Seth thats a very hard thing to when someone tells you thats what they did today you must instantly feel like, oh im off to a terrible start. Right, i know. [ laughter ] yeah, all i did was have yogurt. [ laughter ] seth well obviously we talked about it today on the show about russia and whether or not they had an influence in this election. You mentioned that donald trump also has a history with russia that also stretches back to the 1980s. The first time in 87 and he met with a bunch of Business Leaders including trump. So i called trump, and he said, you know before he went into the meeting with gorbachev, he was like, we have to be really wary and suspicious of russia. And then he went in and met gorbachev and gorbachev said, we love trump tower. Come build one like that in moscow. And trump is like i love mikhail gorbachev. Hes the best. [ laughter ] i love russia. So i think that set a template for whats happened with putin and the russians ever since because putin trump thought putin gave him a compliment where he said hes brilliant. But it turned out to be a mistranslation. Seth right. It meant bright, right . Or like to create colorful body. Colorful body. Seth colorful. Or gawdy. Seth oh, right. Okay. So, trump has forced the republicans to change their whole stance towards the evil one compliment. Seth at least its not affecting all of us. No. [ laughter ] seth but you all sort of make this argument that donald trump is very susceptible to compliment. And he is also very susceptible, in your opinion, to the last person hes talked to. Right. Seth and so thats effecting the way people would deal with him. Right. Thats why his staff, jockeys, to get the last appointment of the day. Because the last person who talks to him has a lot of sway. And you know he over flatters people and he likes to be over flattered. Because basically he doesnt his ideology is his ego. So, you know, everybody in washington from president obama to Mitch Mcconnell is trying to flatter him. Hes almost like a host body and they think they can change his mind or pour their agenda in with some flattery. And that worked with putin. Seth yeah. Because we, i think we all remember that you sort of talked about running in 2012, but he has fainted towards the presidency before including 2000. And you write about this as well and what he thought made him a good candidate then. Well, yeah i went out with him when he was dating melania. We went to cuba so he could test the waters in 99. And he gave a speech and, you know, he saw his first trump for president sign and sort of skittered away. He was very shy about it and so afterwards i asked him what makes you think people would vote for you . And he said well, i get really big ratings on larry king and a lot of guys hit on melania. So it was this kind of ego arithmetic of toting out the numbers that were good for him which is exactly what he did all the way through this campaign. Seth and so are you how are you with wrapping your head around the fact, because he was his arithmetic was right. And i think for, i wouldnt i dane to guess on the melania part, but this idea of ratings. He was right about how people vote and how people think. And are you surprised, with your history, that he understood the electorate better than maybe people who are more on the inside . Yes. It is surprising in that president obama, who got elected in this amazing, exciting, thrilling race in 2008 misread the electorate so badly. Seth i want to ask about this as well. Very famously. He had been very difficult or hard i should say, on the New York Times throughout this election. Hes been hard on them since. But donald trump did president elect donald trump came to the New York Times to basically do a q and a with the staff there. And he sort of called you out. Is that accurate to say that he was not polite . Yes. He stopped them, well he was he was telling our publisher and the reporters that if they had any questions they could call him. Feel free to call him. And then he goes, except maureen. She cant call me because shes been very, very, very rough on me. And the publisher turned to him with a smile and said, well as we say about maureen around here its not your fault. Its just your turn. But i have heard [ laughter ] i have heard that if you want to get back on his good side you give him seven compliments really fast. Seth oh really . And thats youre probably good at giving a fast compliment so youll be back there in no time. Right. Seth you also talk about a very nice relationship with a president that you maybe wouldnt have guessed which is george h. W. Bush. You had a long relationship with. And tell us about that. Well, it was sort of like a screw ball comedy, because it was like the irish workingclass girl and the waspy, privileged guy who had gotten you know, a limousine in greenwich connecticut. So it took us a while to get use to each other. Because i think he expected a New York Times reporter with a name like Clyde Farnsworth the third who he could have a martini with and discuss the Atlantic Alliance and then he got me. Seth you give one of the most interesting facts about him that i never would have guessed. He claims, george h. W. Bush claims he coined the phrase, you da man. Right. Funnily enough seth he believes this. Funnily enough, for that the waspiest guy on earth, the thing he is most proud of is that in the 60s he was watching rusty staub round third base toward a homerun and he yelled out, you da man. And he said it caught on slowly. [ laughter ] i mean he presided over, you know, the berlin wall falling and some other things but this is what he is most proud of. Seth he said it once and he thinks it caught fire from tha that is outstanding. Well im gonna always give him credit for it. Yes. Seth thank you so much for being here. Congratulations on the book. Its always a pleasure to see you. Maureen dowd everybody. The year of voting dangerously is in stores now. Well be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ill have that goat cheese garden salad. That gentleman got the last one. 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