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Transcripts For WRC Dateline NBC 20161114



hi, i'm mike. hi, i'm donna. we're in oakland, new jersey. we met in 1992. she was a freshman. i was a sophomore, and i was scoping out the new freshmen, coming into the dorm. and i walked passed her room, and i stopped. i did a double take. and i said to my best friends at the time, i said, i'm going to date that girl. i just knew she was the girl for me. and she was the type of girl that you could bring home to mom, and that's exactly what i was looking for. we're at oakland, new jersey, which is where mike and donna myhre and their daughter, mikayla, live. michaela is my absolute everything. i don't know if i can explain the feeling of unconditional love. donna: yeah, she listens. mike: she's really perfect. donna: she plays. she's loving. we're often seen cruising the boulevard. it's not really a boulevard, but we go up and down the street. and i said, you know, honey, you're the only person who was ever inside of mommy and will hear my heart form inside. she's funny. she goes, can i go back in? no, no, no, that's not gonna happen. but it's so true. from all accounts, donna is one of those superstar teachers. everybody who knows her, loves her. donna: i teach at fieldstone middle school. it's in montvale, new jersey. just take a quick peek through your packet. i was diagnosed with als september 27, 2012. it was awful. i mean, you couldn't have had worse we had been discussing having a child. i looked at him, and i said, no kid. i'm sorry. i'm not bringing a child into this. well, we didn't know i was already pregnant at that time. mike: it was, like, the lowest low to the highest high. donna: there was the conundrum of emotions. look what she's going to have to go through. every day is a new challenge with this disease. they put together a bedroom for their daughter and at the same time started retrofitting their house. the last thing that they have to do is the bathroom, but here's the caveat. they have one bathroom in the house. it's not old. it's not antiquated. it's just not functional for somebody in a wheelchair. it's too small. donna: it's pretty dangerous for me to get up and risk falling to brush my teeth, use the facilities. i'm very concerned about the bathroom room safety because if she slips, she's going to get very hurt. if george can come in and rescue the fear that i feel inside on a daily basis, that would be magnificent. [music playing] i'm george oliphant. mike, right? yeah donna, mikayla. do you know who this is, mikayla? oh, my goodness. that's george. i heard your story, and i'm so sorry for what you guys are dealing with. and we're gonna give you the bathroom that you need and that you deserve, a beautiful bathroom for you, too, mikayla. it's gonna be beautiful. can you say, thank you? thank you. george: you're very welcome. so to help us out on this rescue, i've got rob tell from intellebuild. he's gonna be our gc. he's gonna take care of all the nuts and bolts. i've got tyler wisler, "george to the rescue" alumni. i'm just kind of excited to see what he does with the space. all right, so, rob, tyler, this is currently the myhre's bathroom. and as you can see, it's unusable, really, for donna. she can't get in here. absolutely, this is very inaccessible for her to get around, not functional at all. definitely need a shower. well, i think the good thing about this is that we've got enough space that if we take this and recess it back. i don't know what's behind this wall. mikayla's closet is on one side. the other option would be the kitchen, which is a much larger project, not sure we want to get involved with that. so really, the biggest issue here is this cabinet. the oven is built into here, and so this totally screws up her accessibility. yeah, that really juts out pretty far. we've got to move this, which means we've got to move the oven, which means that we've got to move this wall, which means that it's-- george: "george to the rescue" is sponsored in part by coldwell banker. so what do you say-- kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom? -are we up for this? -let's do it. all right, let's start this rescue. nice. to everywhere that donna needs to go in the home, that's really the biggest part of this. all right, are you guys ready to do some demo? let's get this rescue started. how psyched are they gonna be to get a new kitchen? they are gonna be surprised. hey, see? you said, why do i need a hard hat? so now we have to figure out how we're going to lay out the new kitchen. and we've gotta make sure that the new kitchen so no more wall oven, we're making it all accessible. so we're opening the whole thing up. oh, you guys wait for me to put my hammer down, and you just have all the fun. [grunting] this is, like, the hardest part of the job, isn't it? it was time to say goodbye to that kitchen, anyways. you're gonna like the new one. all right, so i think the whole idea in here, right, is just gut it because the tub is obsolete. and then this wall is the one we've got to be careful with, right? this is the only one. it has all the plumbing in it, but, uh, everything else is going. y, what's up, fellas? how's it going in there? all right, tub, bon voyage. you know, it's not really until you open up all the walls that you can see how a house is built, what's right, and what's wrong. to cause us some problems. all pipes in a house are attached. and if you cut one, you've got to be prepared for a chain reaction. "george to the rescue" is sponsored in part by 3m. for more information about 3m products, which we weren't planning on doing, but now that we have, we've got to deal with what's behind it. and the vent pipe, which is supposed to be in the wall, is actually in the cabinetry, meaning we've got to cut it out. somehow, some way, this stack's coming out. i hope nothing is flammable, because there's going to be some sparks. ah, that's what i like to see, rob. you're making the house smarter, right here with the doorbell. absolutely, this is a camera and intercom doorbell. so basically, what? it just goes on right here like this, and the camera tells her who's here through her ipad or phone or whatever she's using? exactly, it's going to be great for her. she doesn't have to get around the house to see who's at the front door. -that's awesome. it's all about independence. here from wayne tile. what exactly are you putting in this house? they've actually given me a few options that i really like. so i've had them bring it all here to see what works best, and then you just get to install it. so, george, you were asking about the subway tiles? yes, i understand that you're doing both the planks and the subway tiles in thirds. so with thirds, your eye is bouncing around. so you can kind of get away with things being slightly off, but still look in alignment. it's a lot of math. who's got a calculator? nice, fresh, white cabinets from cabinets direct usa, it's really changing the whole look of this space. absolutely, much cleaner, much more efficient. stone surfaces, straight out of east rutherford, new jersey. all right, you ready? is that a big one? good, throw it on my back. to help me put the finishing touches on all the smart-home upgrades that rob and i did in this house, i've got sonja from coldwell banker stopping by. hey, sonja. hi, george. welcome back to the myhres' house. thank you. so i understand that you actually were the one who sold them this house when they first moved to this neighborhood. in the past few years. now with "george to the rescue" and the smart-home technology that coldwell banker is sponsoring, that is perfect for donna. we put in cameras, doorbells, lights, locks, thermostat. with this, she can control it all. she'll be able to control it. and in the future, it's going to be something that the buyers are going to be looking for in homes. especially in this case with donna, she will be able to control everything at her fingertips. it's all controlled right there? yes, right, it does everything that the thermostat does. it's fantastic. so this is fieldstone middle school. everyone is super excited. we can't wait to see and hear what's going on with the house. hey, donna. or i guess since i'm at school, is it mrs. myhre? whatever you choose. i saw the students outside. good to see you. good to see you. how are things going at the house? i'd say the house is going along very smoothly. i'm happy. it's when i'm putting in these situations where people are like, i need an answer right now. i think you should prove your math skills with a pop quiz. george seems to fall into the category of test taking where there is a lot of nail biting and hair fidgeting. [ticking] listen. i know you're really good at math. can you please help me? what about you? guys. eyes on your own paper. i'm sorry, donna. pencils down. ah, sweet relief, i passed the test. school is out. i can do math. let's go back to the house, talk to tyler, show him what's up, and get this project finished. so i am stoked with the way the kitchen turned out. rob and his crew did an amazing job. they really brought forth that vision obviously, we have our canvas here. we have all of these new appliances from aga. so aga and marvel are sister companies, and they compliment each other really well. so this provides an entire suite. and i love the little touches that you did to make sure that it's just not a kitchen, that it was a kitchen for donna and for the family, by putting the sink so that it's recessed, so that she can actually get under it. position that works for her. so from what i understand, donna told us that mikayla doesn't like sleeping in her room. i don't know why that is. but maybe, just maybe, if we make that room really special and inviting for her, she'll want to sleep in the room. so it looked like she loved pink, so i wanted to create sort of a feature wall. fifths because it's always nice to work with odd numbers. and this will stay the same color throughout, right? -no. -of course, not. of course, not. i love how rob has gotten quiet. he's just like-- he's like, i am not going to assume-- i'm taking in the design so we can figure out how we can do it. good answer. there's no way we could pull off tyler's feature wall without the help of scotchblue painter's tape. so mikayla is really going to love what we've done. the day bad is going to free up a lot of floor space. it's going to make it accessible for mom to come in. she's gonna love it. oh. -you're gonna break the bed-- -i know i am. i know i am. ---that you just got. so the project is going great. we gave them a great space. it's clean. it's a little more modern. the most important thing-- it's much more functional. donna will be able to get around the house, get where she needs to go, when she needs to get there. i think mikayla will be super happy with her room as well. what's up, mike, mikayla, donna? -hey, george. -how are you guys? -how are you? -good to see you, man. good to see you. hi, donna. hi. what do you say we go inside and we what we did? -let's do it. -are you guys ready? yes. oh, my goodness. what's that, baby girl? girl? wow. that wasn't part of the plan, george. when i came through the front door into the house, i just immediately went speechless like i am right now. look at this. mikayla, whose house is this? this looks like a seashore resort. the shock and the surprise and utter daylight, words we also wanted to make sure that the house was smart and that it gave you independence and met your needs, so we got this little [inaudible] ipad here for you. what this does is it will allow you to use your doorbell. we have cameras so that you can see what's going on around the house. we've got your thermostat. everything is on here, but there's one thing i've got to show you. hi, myhre family. it's zooey deschanel here. welcome home. in my new movie, "trolls," we focus on the importance of helping others and spreading the love. donna, i know that you channel this every day. i am so excited for you to see what george and his team have done for you. i hope you all enjoy your new spaces. they look amazing. i also want to invite you to a special screening of "trolls," and i hope you enjoy it. and you guys all get to go and see the movie. we're gonna go to see a special movie. huh, what do you think? want to go see a movie? do you want to go see that movie about trolls? the reason we came here in the first place was because you needed a new bathroom. so what do you say? shall we head down the hall? let's go. oh, my goodness. this is our new house. this is our new house. everything is new. i have no words-- the comfort of being able to roll up to a sink and wash my hands or rinse my mouth or wash my face. do you like it? do you understand the depth of gratitude? look. yeah. ok, good. donna: the way she danced around in here and smiled-- what? do you like that? it was clear she was excited, elated-- home. home, yeah. look at mommy's hair. mikayla is a princess, with or without this room, but this room is, like, the palace for the princess. ok, bye. bye. [cheering] i told you guys i couldn't do this all by myself. it started with our designer, tyler, our contractor, rob, coldwell banker. i know sonja, your broker way back when you bought this house. it takes a village, and this is the village that d a hand in this. we asked for a bathroom. wait till you see what we got. i'm not one that needs frills or the best of anything, but-- it's safe now. on top of that, it's beautiful. what he said. i was reeling from shock that my parents were gone. >> a devoted couple killed in the home they shared with a museum's worth of collectibles. >> he was big into civil war guns, coins of all kinds. >> was there any connection between the memorabilia and the murder? >> question is, who is going to benefit by these two deaths? >> jessica was the only child. >> she's the sole h eir? >> the sole heir. >> it was by far the most important piece of evidence in the case. >> a clue pointing to the most surprising and calculating killer. >> someone with a sick mind is all i know. >> here's dennis murphy with "the collector." >> reporter: if your travels take you to the ozarks in southwestern missouri, that splendid lake country, you maybe have bass or trout fishing on the mind. or perhaps you're heading to branson to catch a few of the stage shows. would have directed you to this modest home in springfield, missouri, and that's a shame because it was an old curiosity shop well worth seeing. floor-to-ceiling collectibles. valuable stuff everywhere the eye landed. but still every object just so. think neat hoarders. >> anything from coins to arrowheads to -- he had probably 10,000 to 15,000 books. >> he's big into gold and just all kinds of stuff that he -- you know, a leg cannon. >> reporter: but did these collectors who had such a knack for finding treasure have a less discerning eye when it came to sizing up people? did that go towards explaining the dreadful toll in that house that evening? >> i said, he's off in some way. i don't know. he could be a psychopath or something. i said, it scares me. >> reporter: on april 30, 2014, did they fall prey to someone >> i had to be lowered to the ground. and i started crying and screaming. >> oh, not those -- oh, such good people. why? >> reporter: springfield, missouri, is called the queen of the ozarks, a church-going, neighborly city of midsize with good colleges. gary tyrrell grew up poor on a farm not far away and knew early kids in his classrooms by day, the history book in his lap at night. he and his wife jan raised two kids, a girl and a boy who sadly died young of a brain cancer. jan kept the house mainly and sold avon products part time. they lived and gardened in the same house for almost 25 years. they even designed it themselves. life in missouri was good for the two. >> they loved each other very much. r remembers how extraordinarily close her parents were, joined at the hip. >> if my mom went shopping, my dad took her. they gardened together. talked on the phone, you know, several times a day if they were apart. they really did everything. >> reporter: so they really were for the ages, huh? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: personalities? gary was the fun, outgoing one. >> he was a very jolly man. you know, kind of like a santa claus. >> reporter: jan, a little more reserved. >> it took a little bit more to get to know her. >> reporter: when gary retired as a beloved assistant school superintendent, he suddenly had all the time in the world to visit civil war battlefields, scour flea markets and pore over his antique dealers' catalogs. but there was a lucrative sideline to his obsession for memorabilia. >> and he was big into buying and selling gold and silver. >> reporter: gary's brother, larry tyrrell. >> he constantly collected coins and bought gold and silver trinkets. >> reporter: and did pretty well at it? >> he did very well at it. gary was a good businessman. >> reporter: the gold and silver went into one of five safes in the house. but the coins and artifacts, many of them museum quality, were out on display. >> he had a lot of rare pieces. a lot of indian jewelry that was very quality pieces that he loved. >> reporter: what was his most unusual piece, do you think? >> probably be the walrus tusks that he owned. he had three of those. >> reporter: they were rare, and each worth around $10,000. so how would he find these things? >> i'm not really sure. they did go to flea markets and garage sales and things like that, but any time i would ask him, you know, where did you get this? he would say, oh, in my travels. >> reporter: in 2013, jason murray became one of the family when he and jessica got engaged. he remembers the walrus tusks as well as all the other unusual items in the tyrrell home. >> it was one of those things where like there was so much and he had so much stuff, it was like an offbeat museum. >> reporter: jessica and jason lived almost 300 miles away in oklahoma city. but jessica spoke with or texted her parents several times a day. but that all changed on may 1st. >> i had called my mom on my way to work, like i always do. and she didn't answer. so i thought, well, maybe she's in the bathroom. maybe she's outside. and i called back, and i still says she still couldn't reach her. so she called the springfield police and asked them to go by the house. and when the officer did that, what did he report back to you? >> that nothing seemed out of place. they couldn't see anything inside the house. all the doors and -- were secure. absolutely no signs of forced entry or that anything appeared to be out of place. >> reporter: the officer had no cause to force his way into the house and left. but jessica says she was still worried. to springfield. they arrived at the house around 7:00 p.m. >> as we were coming around the corner to the house, i hit the garage door button. and both of their cars were in the garage. >> reporter: and that was bad news for you? >> yes. >> reporter: what did that imply? >> that there was something terribly wrong. >> reporter: jessica called 911, without ever going past the garage into the house. two officers arrived within and then another officer arrived and then another and then another and then another. >> reporter: and you're waiting outside? >> and we're waiting outside. >> reporter: no one said a word to jessica and jason. and then they noticed police blocking off the area with crime scene tape. >> i kind of grabbed on to the officer and i said, what is going on? why are they calling for crime scene tape? and he kind of, you know, held going on. all i know is there are two people in the house that are deceased. chilling words outside the tyrrells' house. but they were nothing compared to what investigators would find inside. when we come back -- >> reporter: it seems to be an element of personal anger in this thing, the close-quarter killing of somebody with the weapon in your hand. >> it definitely seemed to be aid sure, but don't just get any one. get one inspired by dentists, with a round brush head! go pro with oral-b. oral-b's rounded brush head cups your teeth to break up plaque and rotates to sweep it away. and oral-b crossaction delivers a clinically proven superior clean vs. sonicare diamondclean. my mouth feels super clean! oral-b. know you're getting a superior clean. i'm never going back to a manual brush. ?? because aunts will do anything for a laugh. 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>> we didn't know. the only thing that we could think of was he's trying to get away from somebody, that they're a key, maybe? a combination? in gary's office downstairs, the detective saw jan. >> she was on the ground. she was lying face down. but it was obvious that there was severe trauma to the back of her head. >> reporter: so was this a violent home invasion? jan and gary had more than a half a million dollars' worth of valuables in the house there for the grabbing, so a botched robbery was a likely scenario. and in the gar p find strange marks and scratches on a tornado shelter that was also used as a safe. >> it appeared that somebody had tried to pry the lock open. there were some marks that were by the lock on the door of the tornado shelter. >> reporter: they didn't get inside. >> it did not appear that they did, no. >> reporter: but that would suggest somebody's looking for something. >> yes. >> reporter: but if robbery was the plan, the killer had left the oddball museum strangely intact. nothing appeared tossed or out of place. and the nature of the well as beaten -- spoke volumes to the prosecutor assigned to the case, todd myers. it seems to be an element of personal anger in this thing, todd. this close quarter killing of somebody with a weapon in your hand. >> yes, it definitely seemed to be a personal-type killing, just the brutality involved. >> reporter: investigators determined jan and gary were likely killed the night before. but search as they might for the murder weapons, the gun and the bludgeoning instrument, officers came up empty nd but they did recover some unusual evidence. >> around jan's body there were small white flakes of a substance that were obviously either from the murder weapon or on the murderer's body. there were similar flakes found by the wound to gary's head. >> reporter: so they bagged them and sent them off for testing. and the crime scene techs recovered something else that could be a crucial piece of evidence, a discarded latex so a latex glove on the floor jumped out at you. >> totally out of place. and from talking with everybody, that there is no way that gary or jan would have left that glove there. it was right in the middle of the floor for everybody to see. >> reporter: did it belong to the victims or the killer? no one knew. so it's collected. you don't know what it means. >> we don't know what it means. and it was collected. sent to the highway patrol crime lab. >> reporter: they had no idea, no working theory yet of why the couple had been murdered. but they did have a sequence th of deaths. >> it is hard to believe that gary is shot upstairs if jan is still fully functioning and mobile that she would not have called 911, would not have tried to intervene in some way. >> speculation but common sense tells you she's the first victim. >> she's the first victim. yes. >> reporter: she's bludgeoned to death downstairs, gary arrives at some point later. >> most likely he arrives either while that is ongoing or the killer is waiting for them. but yes, it appears that she would have been the first to early on for detectives was understanding their crime scene. how did the killer gain entry to the house? >> there were no signs of forced entry. >> reporter: windows haven't been forced. the doors are all intact. how did the killer get in? >> there are only two ways the killer could have gotten in. one would be to have their own access device, whether it's a key, a garage door opener, some way that would open the doors up. and then upon leaving, be able to lock it that way. or, to have been let into th >> reporter: it didn't appear to the cops to be a random home invasion but rather that the killer or killers had been someone the couple knew. was it a person gary encountered in his antiquing travels? or, terrible to think about it, was the perpetrator someone much closer to home? was this all in the family? >> i was shocked. really confused and baffled. coming up -- who had a motive to kill the idea. >> she's the person who could benefit here from this crime in terms of getting money. >> she's the only child from parents that are very well-to-do with a lot that's going to be left to her. two dead. the wife beaten about the head downstairs. the husband shot twice upstairs. and springfield police had determined this was no random break-in gone wrong. jan and gary tyrrell's modest home was and yet at first glance nothing appeared to have been taken. an early supposition was their killer was likely someone close to them. and no one was closer than daughter jessica. she is the person who could benefit here from this crime in terms of getting money. >> she had the most to gain. she's the only child who has parents that are very well-to-do with a lot that's going to be left to her. >> reporter: so she's going to be questioned hard? >> yes. fiance jason down to the station to answer a few questions. the cops didn't let on they were talking to them not just as grieving relatives but also as potential suspects. >> i'm obviously going to take a few notes, obviously, as we're talking. so don't let that bother you. >> reporter: the interviewer withheld details about the crime scene. a standard investigative tactic to see if a subject knows more than they should. he even threw out a theory that wasn't true -- murder/suicide. look at is as to whether or not that one of them would've injured the other and then maybe themselves. >> reporter: jessica seemed to go with it. >> do you think that's a possibility? >> my dad, since his mom died, has been super depressed and has made comments. and my mom called the doctor's office, and i told her if he did -- if he said something stupid before -- again, that she needed to call the police. like get the [ bleep ] away from him and call the police. >> reporter: and as they another reason to be suspicious of the daughter. she'd driven five hours to check on her parents, then didn't go inside the house. wouldn't you wonder why she would do that? >> yes. people sometimes that commit a crime or know a crime that's been committed, you know, they don't want to see the bodies in there, so they call somebody else. >> reporter: detectives pressed the couple about their movements that day, what they did or did not do at the scene. had they tampered with that tornado shelter in the garage. >> you guys didn't do anything to try to get inside? i mean, i pushed my hand on the handle, it was locked and that was it. >> reporter: did you think that maybe are we looking at a situation here where we have to call a lawyer or be careful about what we say? >> i did, a little bit. >> reporter: but neither jason nor jessica asked for a lawyer and offered the detective more detail about what was in that tornado shelter that had been tampered with. >> the safe room was full of gold and silver, and gold bars and i don't even know -- >> we actually don't know what >> i mean, he has books that are signed by presidents. he has indian peace medals. >> reporter: for investigators, the entire interview was a test. >> how are you going to hold up? are you going to give answers that we can go back and verify? are you going to respond -- >> reporter: you so intend to sweat them? >> yes, that was the detective's intent, to the degree of just trying to make sure we get the truth. >> reporter: so, had they passed the investigator's test? detectives let them go but held for potential evidence. why did they have reason to look in your car? >> i didn't really know. i assumed it was just because my car was there. >> reporter: now jessica had to call family and friends to tell them the news about her parents. her uncle larry, her father's brother, was at his law office when he got the call. >> she said that mom and dad are gone. i said, what do you mean? are they out of town? she said, no they're deceased. well, i collapsed on the floor. >> reporter: you were a mess. >> i was a mess. the unknown was terrifying. because i didn't know what had >> reporter: but larry wasn't shocked or outraged to learn his niece was being looked at as a potential suspect. he was, after all, a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. >> i knew she had to be eliminated. i understood that. due to the fact that she was the only child. she just had to be eliminated so that the case could move on. >> reporter: and the case did keep moving. but after a full week of investigating, the daughter and fiance were not eliminated. rather, detectives called them back to the station, this time interviewed separately. jason first. cops by now had figured out that the murders took place the night before the bodies were discovered. so where exactly were he and jessica then? >> we went to the pizza hut up on -- i don't know, probably 5:30 or something like that and came back home and stayed home. >> reporter: home five hours away in oklahoma city. >> on my credit card. i'm sure it's on my card. >> reporter: then right to the point. >> you have any reason to want to harm gary or jan? >> not at all. >> didn't do anything to hurt them -- >> no. >> didn't go in the house? everything you telling me the truth? >> absolutely. >> reporter: next jessica was in the chair answering questions about her relationship with her parents. >> are they paying any of your bills? >> they pay my at&t bill for my cell phone. pay my car insurance. >> i'm just going to ask, did you have any ill feelings towards your folks, anything that you would have been mad at them for, any reason to want to harm them or anything like that? >> no. my parent were my life. >> to either better your financial situation or anything lying that? >> no. i mean, if i needed something, all i had to do was call and ask. >> reporter: so you're a suspect. >> right. >> reporter: in your parents' yes. >> reporter: how do you deal with that? you haven't even buried them yet. >> i wasn't really dealing with it. it was more just going through and saying i -- you know, i didn't do it. >> reporter: police asked both jessica and jason for dna samples, then set out to verify their alibis. >> my boss and i took a trip to oklahoma city, and we went to employers, spoke with fellow employees, with jessica's boss, and we went to the pizza hut to see if we could see some surveillance video. >> reporter: wouldal send the investigation in a new direction? this was a huge bingo moment. >> it was. coming up -- gary's best friend offers detectives some clues, including texts he says he saw on gary's phone. >> there were five in a row from some guy that he had taught in a class that was asking for money. >> did someone need cash badly enough to kill? i don't use super poligrip for hold, because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well fitting dentures let in food particles. just a few dabs of super poligrip free is clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. so it's not about keeping my dentures in, it's about keeping the food particles out. try super poligrip free. thanks for loading, sweetie. rinse that. nope. no way. nada. really? 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hi, i'm mike. hi, i'm donna. we're in oakland, new jersey. we met in 1992. she was a freshman. i was a sophomore, and i was scoping out the new freshmen, coming into the dorm. and i walked passed her room, and i stopped. i did a double take. and i said to my best friends at the time, i said, i'm going to date that girl. i just knew she was the girl for me. and she was the type of girl that you could bring home to mom, and that's exactly what i was looking for. we're at oakland, new jersey, which is where mike and donna myhre and their daughter, mikayla, live. michaela is my absolute everything. i don't know if i can explain the feeling of unconditional love. donna: yeah, she listens. mike: she's really perfect. donna: she plays. she's loving. we're often seen cruising the boulevard. it's not really a boulevard, but we go up and down the street. and i said, you know, honey, you're the only person who was ever inside of mommy and will hear my heart form inside. she's funny. she goes, can i go back in? no, no, no, that's not gonna happen. but it's so true. from all accounts, donna is one of those superstar teachers. everybody who knows her, loves her. donna: i teach at fieldstone middle school. it's in montvale, new jersey. just take a quick peek through your packet. i was diagnosed with als september 27, 2012. it was awful. i mean, you couldn't have had worse we had been discussing having a child. i looked at him, and i said, no kid. i'm sorry. i'm not bringing a child into this. well, we didn't know i was already pregnant at that time. mike: it was, like, the lowest low to the highest high. donna: there was the conundrum of emotions. look what she's going to have to go through. every day is a new challenge with this disease. they put together a bedroom for their daughter and at the same time started retrofitting their house. the last thing that they have to do is the bathroom, but here's the caveat. they have one bathroom in the house. it's not old. it's not antiquated. it's just not functional for somebody in a wheelchair. it's too small. donna: it's pretty dangerous for me to get up and risk falling to brush my teeth, use the facilities. i'm very concerned about the bathroom room safety because if she slips, she's going to get very hurt. if george can come in and rescue the fear that i feel inside on a daily basis, that would be magnificent. [music playing] i'm george oliphant. mike, right? yeah donna, mikayla. do you know who this is, mikayla? oh, my goodness. that's george. i heard your story, and i'm so sorry for what you guys are dealing with. and we're gonna give you the bathroom that you need and that you deserve, a beautiful bathroom for you, too, mikayla. it's gonna be beautiful. can you say, thank you? thank you. george: you're very welcome. so to help us out on this rescue, i've got rob tell from intellebuild. he's gonna be our gc. he's gonna take care of all the nuts and bolts. i've got tyler wisler, "george to the rescue" alumni. i'm just kind of excited to see what he does with the space. all right, so, rob, tyler, this is currently the myhre's bathroom. and as you can see, it's unusable, really, for donna. she can't get in here. absolutely, this is very inaccessible for her to get around, not functional at all. definitely need a shower. well, i think the good thing about this is that we've got enough space that if we take this and recess it back. i don't know what's behind this wall. mikayla's closet is on one side. the other option would be the kitchen, which is a much larger project, not sure we want to get involved with that. so really, the biggest issue here is this cabinet. the oven is built into here, and so this totally screws up her accessibility. yeah, that really juts out pretty far. we've got to move this, which means we've got to move the oven, which means that we've got to move this wall, which means that it's-- george: "george to the rescue" is sponsored in part by coldwell banker. so what do you say-- kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom? -are we up for this? -let's do it. all right, let's start this rescue. nice. to everywhere that donna needs to go in the home, that's really the biggest part of this. all right, are you guys ready to do some demo? let's get this rescue started. how psyched are they gonna be to get a new kitchen? they are gonna be surprised. hey, see? you said, why do i need a hard hat? so now we have to figure out how we're going to lay out the new kitchen. and we've gotta make sure that the new kitchen so no more wall oven, we're making it all accessible. so we're opening the whole thing up. oh, you guys wait for me to put my hammer down, and you just have all the fun. [grunting] this is, like, the hardest part of the job, isn't it? it was time to say goodbye to that kitchen, anyways. you're gonna like the new one. all right, so i think the whole idea in here, right, is just gut it because the tub is obsolete. and then this wall is the one we've got to be careful with, right? this is the only one. it has all the plumbing in it, but, uh, everything else is going. y, what's up, fellas? how's it going in there? all right, tub, bon voyage. you know, it's not really until you open up all the walls that you can see how a house is built, what's right, and what's wrong. to cause us some problems. all pipes in a house are attached. and if you cut one, you've got to be prepared for a chain reaction. "george to the rescue" is sponsored in part by 3m. for more information about 3m products, which we weren't planning on doing, but now that we have, we've got to deal with what's behind it. and the vent pipe, which is supposed to be in the wall, is actually in the cabinetry, meaning we've got to cut it out. somehow, some way, this stack's coming out. i hope nothing is flammable, because there's going to be some sparks. ah, that's what i like to see, rob. you're making the house smarter, right here with the doorbell. absolutely, this is a camera and intercom doorbell. so basically, what? it just goes on right here like this, and the camera tells her who's here through her ipad or phone or whatever she's using? exactly, it's going to be great for her. she doesn't have to get around the house to see who's at the front door. -that's awesome. it's all about independence. here from wayne tile. what exactly are you putting in this house? they've actually given me a few options that i really like. so i've had them bring it all here to see what works best, and then you just get to install it. so, george, you were asking about the subway tiles? yes, i understand that you're doing both the planks and the subway tiles in thirds. so with thirds, your eye is bouncing around. so you can kind of get away with things being slightly off, but still look in alignment. it's a lot of math. who's got a calculator? nice, fresh, white cabinets from cabinets direct usa, it's really changing the whole look of this space. absolutely, much cleaner, much more efficient. stone surfaces, straight out of east rutherford, new jersey. all right, you ready? is that a big one? good, throw it on my back. to help me put the finishing touches on all the smart-home upgrades that rob and i did in this house, i've got sonja from coldwell banker stopping by. hey, sonja. hi, george. welcome back to the myhres' house. thank you. so i understand that you actually were the one who sold them this house when they first moved to this neighborhood. in the past few years. now with "george to the rescue" and the smart-home technology that coldwell banker is sponsoring, that is perfect for donna. we put in cameras, doorbells, lights, locks, thermostat. with this, she can control it all. she'll be able to control it. and in the future, it's going to be something that the buyers are going to be looking for in homes. especially in this case with donna, she will be able to control everything at her fingertips. it's all controlled right there? yes, right, it does everything that the thermostat does. it's fantastic. so this is fieldstone middle school. everyone is super excited. we can't wait to see and hear what's going on with the house. hey, donna. or i guess since i'm at school, is it mrs. myhre? whatever you choose. i saw the students outside. good to see you. good to see you. how are things going at the house? i'd say the house is going along very smoothly. i'm happy. it's when i'm putting in these situations where people are like, i need an answer right now. i think you should prove your math skills with a pop quiz. george seems to fall into the category of test taking where there is a lot of nail biting and hair fidgeting. [ticking] listen. i know you're really good at math. can you please help me? what about you? guys. eyes on your own paper. i'm sorry, donna. pencils down. ah, sweet relief, i passed the test. school is out. i can do math. let's go back to the house, talk to tyler, show him what's up, and get this project finished. so i am stoked with the way the kitchen turned out. rob and his crew did an amazing job. they really brought forth that vision obviously, we have our canvas here. we have all of these new appliances from aga. so aga and marvel are sister companies, and they compliment each other really well. so this provides an entire suite. and i love the little touches that you did to make sure that it's just not a kitchen, that it was a kitchen for donna and for the family, by putting the sink so that it's recessed, so that she can actually get under it. position that works for her. so from what i understand, donna told us that mikayla doesn't like sleeping in her room. i don't know why that is. but maybe, just maybe, if we make that room really special and inviting for her, she'll want to sleep in the room. so it looked like she loved pink, so i wanted to create sort of a feature wall. fifths because it's always nice to work with odd numbers. and this will stay the same color throughout, right? -no. -of course, not. of course, not. i love how rob has gotten quiet. he's just like-- he's like, i am not going to assume-- i'm taking in the design so we can figure out how we can do it. good answer. there's no way we could pull off tyler's feature wall without the help of scotchblue painter's tape. so mikayla is really going to love what we've done. the day bad is going to free up a lot of floor space. it's going to make it accessible for mom to come in. she's gonna love it. oh. -you're gonna break the bed-- -i know i am. i know i am. ---that you just got. so the project is going great. we gave them a great space. it's clean. it's a little more modern. the most important thing-- it's much more functional. donna will be able to get around the house, get where she needs to go, when she needs to get there. i think mikayla will be super happy with her room as well. what's up, mike, mikayla, donna? -hey, george. -how are you guys? -how are you? -good to see you, man. good to see you. hi, donna. hi. what do you say we go inside and we what we did? -let's do it. -are you guys ready? yes. oh, my goodness. what's that, baby girl? girl? wow. that wasn't part of the plan, george. when i came through the front door into the house, i just immediately went speechless like i am right now. look at this. mikayla, whose house is this? this looks like a seashore resort. the shock and the surprise and utter daylight, words we also wanted to make sure that the house was smart and that it gave you independence and met your needs, so we got this little [inaudible] ipad here for you. what this does is it will allow you to use your doorbell. we have cameras so that you can see what's going on around the house. we've got your thermostat. everything is on here, but there's one thing i've got to show you. hi, myhre family. it's zooey deschanel here. welcome home. in my new movie, "trolls," we focus on the importance of helping others and spreading the love. donna, i know that you channel this every day. i am so excited for you to see what george and his team have done for you. i hope you all enjoy your new spaces. they look amazing. i also want to invite you to a special screening of "trolls," and i hope you enjoy it. and you guys all get to go and see the movie. we're gonna go to see a special movie. huh, what do you think? want to go see a movie? do you want to go see that movie about trolls? the reason we came here in the first place was because you needed a new bathroom. so what do you say? shall we head down the hall? let's go. oh, my goodness. this is our new house. this is our new house. everything is new. i have no words-- the comfort of being able to roll up to a sink and wash my hands or rinse my mouth or wash my face. do you like it? do you understand the depth of gratitude? look. yeah. ok, good. donna: the way she danced around in here and smiled-- what? do you like that? it was clear she was excited, elated-- home. home, yeah. look at mommy's hair. mikayla is a princess, with or without this room, but this room is, like, the palace for the princess. ok, bye. bye. [cheering] i told you guys i couldn't do this all by myself. it started with our designer, tyler, our contractor, rob, coldwell banker. i know sonja, your broker way back when you bought this house. it takes a village, and this is the village that d a hand in this. we asked for a bathroom. wait till you see what we got. i'm not one that needs frills or the best of anything, but-- it's safe now. on top of that, it's beautiful. what he said. i was reeling from shock that my parents were gone. >> a devoted couple killed in the home they shared with a museum's worth of collectibles. >> he was big into civil war guns, coins of all kinds. >> was there any connection between the memorabilia and the murder? >> question is, who is going to benefit by these two deaths? >> jessica was the only child. >> she's the sole h eir? >> the sole heir. >> it was by far the most important piece of evidence in the case. >> a clue pointing to the most surprising and calculating killer. >> someone with a sick mind is all i know. >> here's dennis murphy with "the collector." >> reporter: if your travels take you to the ozarks in southwestern missouri, that splendid lake country, you maybe have bass or trout fishing on the mind. or perhaps you're heading to branson to catch a few of the stage shows. would have directed you to this modest home in springfield, missouri, and that's a shame because it was an old curiosity shop well worth seeing. floor-to-ceiling collectibles. valuable stuff everywhere the eye landed. but still every object just so. think neat hoarders. >> anything from coins to arrowheads to -- he had probably 10,000 to 15,000 books. >> he's big into gold and just all kinds of stuff that he -- you know, a leg cannon. >> reporter: but did these collectors who had such a knack for finding treasure have a less discerning eye when it came to sizing up people? did that go towards explaining the dreadful toll in that house that evening? >> i said, he's off in some way. i don't know. he could be a psychopath or something. i said, it scares me. >> reporter: on april 30, 2014, did they fall prey to someone >> i had to be lowered to the ground. and i started crying and screaming. >> oh, not those -- oh, such good people. why? >> reporter: springfield, missouri, is called the queen of the ozarks, a church-going, neighborly city of midsize with good colleges. gary tyrrell grew up poor on a farm not far away and knew early kids in his classrooms by day, the history book in his lap at night. he and his wife jan raised two kids, a girl and a boy who sadly died young of a brain cancer. jan kept the house mainly and sold avon products part time. they lived and gardened in the same house for almost 25 years. they even designed it themselves. life in missouri was good for the two. >> they loved each other very much. r remembers how extraordinarily close her parents were, joined at the hip. >> if my mom went shopping, my dad took her. they gardened together. talked on the phone, you know, several times a day if they were apart. they really did everything. >> reporter: so they really were for the ages, huh? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: personalities? gary was the fun, outgoing one. >> he was a very jolly man. you know, kind of like a santa claus. >> reporter: jan, a little more reserved. >> it took a little bit more to get to know her. >> reporter: when gary retired as a beloved assistant school superintendent, he suddenly had all the time in the world to visit civil war battlefields, scour flea markets and pore over his antique dealers' catalogs. but there was a lucrative sideline to his obsession for memorabilia. >> and he was big into buying and selling gold and silver. >> reporter: gary's brother, larry tyrrell. >> he constantly collected coins and bought gold and silver trinkets. >> reporter: and did pretty well at it? >> he did very well at it. gary was a good businessman. >> reporter: the gold and silver went into one of five safes in the house. but the coins and artifacts, many of them museum quality, were out on display. >> he had a lot of rare pieces. a lot of indian jewelry that was very quality pieces that he loved. >> reporter: what was his most unusual piece, do you think? >> probably be the walrus tusks that he owned. he had three of those. >> reporter: they were rare, and each worth around $10,000. so how would he find these things? >> i'm not really sure. they did go to flea markets and garage sales and things like that, but any time i would ask him, you know, where did you get this? he would say, oh, in my travels. >> reporter: in 2013, jason murray became one of the family when he and jessica got engaged. he remembers the walrus tusks as well as all the other unusual items in the tyrrell home. >> it was one of those things where like there was so much and he had so much stuff, it was like an offbeat museum. >> reporter: jessica and jason lived almost 300 miles away in oklahoma city. but jessica spoke with or texted her parents several times a day. but that all changed on may 1st. >> i had called my mom on my way to work, like i always do. and she didn't answer. so i thought, well, maybe she's in the bathroom. maybe she's outside. and i called back, and i still says she still couldn't reach her. so she called the springfield police and asked them to go by the house. and when the officer did that, what did he report back to you? >> that nothing seemed out of place. they couldn't see anything inside the house. all the doors and -- were secure. absolutely no signs of forced entry or that anything appeared to be out of place. >> reporter: the officer had no cause to force his way into the house and left. but jessica says she was still worried. to springfield. they arrived at the house around 7:00 p.m. >> as we were coming around the corner to the house, i hit the garage door button. and both of their cars were in the garage. >> reporter: and that was bad news for you? >> yes. >> reporter: what did that imply? >> that there was something terribly wrong. >> reporter: jessica called 911, without ever going past the garage into the house. two officers arrived within and then another officer arrived and then another and then another and then another. >> reporter: and you're waiting outside? >> and we're waiting outside. >> reporter: no one said a word to jessica and jason. and then they noticed police blocking off the area with crime scene tape. >> i kind of grabbed on to the officer and i said, what is going on? why are they calling for crime scene tape? and he kind of, you know, held going on. all i know is there are two people in the house that are deceased. chilling words outside the tyrrells' house. but they were nothing compared to what investigators would find inside. when we come back -- >> reporter: it seems to be an element of personal anger in this thing, the close-quarter killing of somebody with the weapon in your hand. >> it definitely seemed to be aid sure, but don't just get any one. get one inspired by dentists, with a round brush head! go pro with oral-b. oral-b's rounded brush head cups your teeth to break up plaque and rotates to sweep it away. and oral-b crossaction delivers a clinically proven superior clean vs. sonicare diamondclean. my mouth feels super clean! oral-b. know you're getting a superior clean. i'm never going back to a manual brush. ?? because aunts will do anything for a laugh. 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>> we didn't know. the only thing that we could think of was he's trying to get away from somebody, that they're a key, maybe? a combination? in gary's office downstairs, the detective saw jan. >> she was on the ground. she was lying face down. but it was obvious that there was severe trauma to the back of her head. >> reporter: so was this a violent home invasion? jan and gary had more than a half a million dollars' worth of valuables in the house there for the grabbing, so a botched robbery was a likely scenario. and in the gar p find strange marks and scratches on a tornado shelter that was also used as a safe. >> it appeared that somebody had tried to pry the lock open. there were some marks that were by the lock on the door of the tornado shelter. >> reporter: they didn't get inside. >> it did not appear that they did, no. >> reporter: but that would suggest somebody's looking for something. >> yes. >> reporter: but if robbery was the plan, the killer had left the oddball museum strangely intact. nothing appeared tossed or out of place. and the nature of the well as beaten -- spoke volumes to the prosecutor assigned to the case, todd myers. it seems to be an element of personal anger in this thing, todd. this close quarter killing of somebody with a weapon in your hand. >> yes, it definitely seemed to be a personal-type killing, just the brutality involved. >> reporter: investigators determined jan and gary were likely killed the night before. but search as they might for the murder weapons, the gun and the bludgeoning instrument, officers came up empty nd but they did recover some unusual evidence. >> around jan's body there were small white flakes of a substance that were obviously either from the murder weapon or on the murderer's body. there were similar flakes found by the wound to gary's head. >> reporter: so they bagged them and sent them off for testing. and the crime scene techs recovered something else that could be a crucial piece of evidence, a discarded latex so a latex glove on the floor jumped out at you. >> totally out of place. and from talking with everybody, that there is no way that gary or jan would have left that glove there. it was right in the middle of the floor for everybody to see. >> reporter: did it belong to the victims or the killer? no one knew. so it's collected. you don't know what it means. >> we don't know what it means. and it was collected. sent to the highway patrol crime lab. >> reporter: they had no idea, no working theory yet of why the couple had been murdered. but they did have a sequence th of deaths. >> it is hard to believe that gary is shot upstairs if jan is still fully functioning and mobile that she would not have called 911, would not have tried to intervene in some way. >> speculation but common sense tells you she's the first victim. >> she's the first victim. yes. >> reporter: she's bludgeoned to death downstairs, gary arrives at some point later. >> most likely he arrives either while that is ongoing or the killer is waiting for them. but yes, it appears that she would have been the first to early on for detectives was understanding their crime scene. how did the killer gain entry to the house? >> there were no signs of forced entry. >> reporter: windows haven't been forced. the doors are all intact. how did the killer get in? >> there are only two ways the killer could have gotten in. one would be to have their own access device, whether it's a key, a garage door opener, some way that would open the doors up. and then upon leaving, be able to lock it that way. or, to have been let into th >> reporter: it didn't appear to the cops to be a random home invasion but rather that the killer or killers had been someone the couple knew. was it a person gary encountered in his antiquing travels? or, terrible to think about it, was the perpetrator someone much closer to home? was this all in the family? >> i was shocked. really confused and baffled. coming up -- who had a motive to kill the idea. >> she's the person who could benefit here from this crime in terms of getting money. >> she's the only child from parents that are very well-to-do with a lot that's going to be left to her. two dead. the wife beaten about the head downstairs. the husband shot twice upstairs. and springfield police had determined this was no random break-in gone wrong. jan and gary tyrrell's modest home was and yet at first glance nothing appeared to have been taken. an early supposition was their killer was likely someone close to them. and no one was closer than daughter jessica. she is the person who could benefit here from this crime in terms of getting money. >> she had the most to gain. she's the only child who has parents that are very well-to-do with a lot that's going to be left to her. >> reporter: so she's going to be questioned hard? >> yes. fiance jason down to the station to answer a few questions. the cops didn't let on they were talking to them not just as grieving relatives but also as potential suspects. >> i'm obviously going to take a few notes, obviously, as we're talking. so don't let that bother you. >> reporter: the interviewer withheld details about the crime scene. a standard investigative tactic to see if a subject knows more than they should. he even threw out a theory that wasn't true -- murder/suicide. look at is as to whether or not that one of them would've injured the other and then maybe themselves. >> reporter: jessica seemed to go with it. >> do you think that's a possibility? >> my dad, since his mom died, has been super depressed and has made comments. and my mom called the doctor's office, and i told her if he did -- if he said something stupid before -- again, that she needed to call the police. like get the [ bleep ] away from him and call the police. >> reporter: and as they another reason to be suspicious of the daughter. she'd driven five hours to check on her parents, then didn't go inside the house. wouldn't you wonder why she would do that? >> yes. people sometimes that commit a crime or know a crime that's been committed, you know, they don't want to see the bodies in there, so they call somebody else. >> reporter: detectives pressed the couple about their movements that day, what they did or did not do at the scene. had they tampered with that tornado shelter in the garage. >> you guys didn't do anything to try to get inside? i mean, i pushed my hand on the handle, it was locked and that was it. >> reporter: did you think that maybe are we looking at a situation here where we have to call a lawyer or be careful about what we say? >> i did, a little bit. >> reporter: but neither jason nor jessica asked for a lawyer and offered the detective more detail about what was in that tornado shelter that had been tampered with. >> the safe room was full of gold and silver, and gold bars and i don't even know -- >> we actually don't know what >> i mean, he has books that are signed by presidents. he has indian peace medals. >> reporter: for investigators, the entire interview was a test. >> how are you going to hold up? are you going to give answers that we can go back and verify? are you going to respond -- >> reporter: you so intend to sweat them? >> yes, that was the detective's intent, to the degree of just trying to make sure we get the truth. >> reporter: so, had they passed the investigator's test? detectives let them go but held for potential evidence. why did they have reason to look in your car? >> i didn't really know. i assumed it was just because my car was there. >> reporter: now jessica had to call family and friends to tell them the news about her parents. her uncle larry, her father's brother, was at his law office when he got the call. >> she said that mom and dad are gone. i said, what do you mean? are they out of town? she said, no they're deceased. well, i collapsed on the floor. >> reporter: you were a mess. >> i was a mess. the unknown was terrifying. because i didn't know what had >> reporter: but larry wasn't shocked or outraged to learn his niece was being looked at as a potential suspect. he was, after all, a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. >> i knew she had to be eliminated. i understood that. due to the fact that she was the only child. she just had to be eliminated so that the case could move on. >> reporter: and the case did keep moving. but after a full week of investigating, the daughter and fiance were not eliminated. rather, detectives called them back to the station, this time interviewed separately. jason first. cops by now had figured out that the murders took place the night before the bodies were discovered. so where exactly were he and jessica then? >> we went to the pizza hut up on -- i don't know, probably 5:30 or something like that and came back home and stayed home. >> reporter: home five hours away in oklahoma city. >> on my credit card. i'm sure it's on my card. >> reporter: then right to the point. >> you have any reason to want to harm gary or jan? >> not at all. >> didn't do anything to hurt them -- >> no. >> didn't go in the house? everything you telling me the truth? >> absolutely. >> reporter: next jessica was in the chair answering questions about her relationship with her parents. >> are they paying any of your bills? >> they pay my at&t bill for my cell phone. pay my car insurance. >> i'm just going to ask, did you have any ill feelings towards your folks, anything that you would have been mad at them for, any reason to want to harm them or anything like that? >> no. my parent were my life. >> to either better your financial situation or anything lying that? >> no. i mean, if i needed something, all i had to do was call and ask. >> reporter: so you're a suspect. >> right. >> reporter: in your parents' yes. >> reporter: how do you deal with that? you haven't even buried them yet. >> i wasn't really dealing with it. it was more just going through and saying i -- you know, i didn't do it. >> reporter: police asked both jessica and jason for dna samples, then set out to verify their alibis. >> my boss and i took a trip to oklahoma city, and we went to employers, spoke with fellow employees, with jessica's boss, and we went to the pizza hut to see if we could see some surveillance video. >> reporter: wouldal send the investigation in a new direction? this was a huge bingo moment. >> it was. coming up -- gary's best friend offers detectives some clues, including texts he says he saw on gary's phone. >> there were five in a row from some guy that he had taught in a class that was asking for money. >> did someone need cash badly enough to kill? i don't use super poligrip for hold, because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well fitting dentures let in food particles. just a few dabs of super poligrip free is clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. so it's not about keeping my dentures in, it's about keeping the food particles out. try super poligrip free. thanks for loading, sweetie. rinse that. nope. no way. nada. really? 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