Six in ten blacks in a new poll say that they dont believe that they have confidence that the investigation will be handled fairly. What do you say to them . First of all, i think with a lot of attention on it and focus on it and dual efforts going on at the same time, one federal, state, public attention, i think they have a chance to get it right. A Justice System with that much focus, these folks need to do their duty. That includes prosecutors and jury members and grand jury members and everyone and citizens who have things to say that can be helpful in those cases. So we have to work hard to make sure that everybody does their best and is strong in this effort. If they do, then its our best hope that justice will be served. Governor jay nixon, thank you. Thank you. Then the question becomes what does it mean to do your best, mr. Mayor. What do you do Going Forward and starting with how do you make this a fair investigation . I think the thing you do is to start seeing this case through the eyes of a mother and father who lost a child who got shot six times and left for four hours in the street. Thats really the issue right now. Were laying all of our feelings about race and class and all of the rest and its really moving away from the dignity that should have been shown to a mother and father whose child got killed. To the extent we can start handling this case through that lens, ferguson is going to be better off and so is the United States of america. We need to stop layering our issues on what has happened there and make sure justice is handled equitably for this mom and this dad who lost their son in the street because he was killed and shot six times with four witnesses. So we have an obligation, and i think the attorney generals visit there was vital, to ensure transparency to all of the people of ferguson. But most important to this mom and this dad, to make sure that this prosecutor is going to use all of the Resources Available to make sure this is done in a transparent fashion. We also need federal oversight to move simultaneously so that in the event we have an adverse decision, there certainly is another path to seeing that justice is done here. Certainly the reaction in the community and the interviews that we heard, the fact that the attorney general went there, what he had to say, his own personal experience that he shared about being a young black man and being stopped helped to calm the fears. There is a question out there, gwyn, about whether the president should do more, questions raised about the tone of the remarks he made. What do you think is the president s role in all this . I think we get caught up in the mayor used the term layering, a layering on issues. In washington were used to layering on government and process, what happens next before the grand jury and what happens next with the trial. We like to cover it like a soap opera. But theres Something Else thats been exposed here, which no president new york City Attorney general can get to. Theres this bruise we keep poking out in this country about race. We dont know how to deal with it unless theres a flairup. What weve seen again and again, you can list the names. Also whats important is whats happening behind it. Theres a new Civil Rights Group that sprung up. Weve been looking at 50 year signings of bills and laws. These young people on the street, young people who created a social Media Movement around Michael Brown, they arent saying pass a law, they are saying enforce current ones. They arent saying were going to wait for a single singular leader telling us which way to go, were going to lead ourselves. Something we cant miss, feels different to me than Trayvon Martin, different than rodney king, these are all situations where justice was questioned. It feels like mers, not just africanamericans are picking themselves up and saying first pictures we saw out of ferguson, first common response was, is that america . People are saying, lets address that, not expect one person to figure it out. We did have this sense, though, that the president in coming to the microphone and being such a great communicator might be able to move the needle. I want to read to you what was written about this by ezra klein. Do we have that there . The problem is the white house no longer believes obama can bridge divides. They believe, with good reason, that he widens them. President obamas speeches polarize in a way candidate obama didnt. Obama supporters often want to see their president leading but the white house knows when obama leads his critics become even less likely to follow. What does he do Going Forward . I have to disagree a little bit. I think the president s tone has been very president ial in this. This is a case where the facts are not established. Were still looking at what the facts are. There are limits to what a president can do in a circumstance like that. I think the president has shown appropriate grief, has shown some outrage. But this is difficult for him. It was right for him to send eric holder, the guy that can bring the fbi, that can bring the forces of the federal government to this to send him to that circumstance. I disagree. I think he should at the right moment give a framing speech on this set of issues which hes good at. I think his restraint here was pretty admirable. Thank you all. Coming up, more with our roundtable. Defense secretary chuck hagel certainly wasnt holding back about the threat posed by isis. This is beyond anything that weve seen. We must prepare for everything. Weve seen. We must[ female announcer ]ing. 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Its a particular potent, well organized, mobile ambitious terrorist group. President obama has been trying to walk a very fine line between a gradual escalating response to isis and reassuring a country that is weary of war, especially in iraq, that hes not going to take american troops back. So far i think hes basically gotten that about right. We are stepping up to protect the kurds to stop the master of the yazidi minority, take isis control away from big dam brutality we saw in the video, does that escalate the pressure on him . It escalates the tightrope, tightens the tightrope. I nt know how he does this. On the one hand we saw intelligence chairman saying we have the capability, we just dont have the will or the policy. On the other hand you dont have i havent heard anybody saying what we ought to be dogins. They are hinting were going inside syria but to what end. What is the goal . That is a very complicated situation right now. I dont know theres an easy answer, which is why were all teetering. Of course in the meantime hes taking hits, so is David Cameron. You can take a look at the covers of the daily mirror yesterday and the daily news on thursday criticizing these two leaders for going out in the case of the president golfing and David Cameron out on the water. I guess the question is raised whether were sending the wrong message, maybe even to europe, maybe to the middle east with this. Even if most people who live in britain and United States, they have a hard job, they should take a break. Having worked for a president , i dont criticize president ial vacations. They need this. As a turtle, they carry it with them. I think thats true. Symbolism does matter. The juxtaposition of beheading and golfing is not a good symbol. That is what hes being criticized for. I think that shows the staff or president doesnt really care . I dont think its that. 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As we look ahead to the coming week in ferguson, missouri, the funeral of Michael Brown will take place tomorrow. Reverend al sharpton, civil rights leader and host of msnbcs politics nation will give the eulogy. He joins me. Welcome. Thank you. There has been a dra shift, move for calmer, much better now. What can you say to help that along . I think what we can say is we must turn this moment into a movement to deal with the underlying issue that Police Accountability and what is and is not allowable by police and what citizens ought to be moving toward. I think we need to deal with how we move towards solutions, how we deal with the whole aggressive policing of what is considered low level crimes. That goes from ferguson to staten island, new york, l. A. We see this occurring all over the country, and i think we need to move in that way. Otherwise we will end up only repeating ourselves. You and i talked a lot, reverend, after the verdict in the Trayvon Martin case. You say that needs to be a moment. Many others said the same thing. We have also seen, as you alluded to, you led a march yesterday after another black man died in an incident involving police in new york city. New youre going to be giving the eulogy for yet another funeral tomorrow. What is it going to take for that moment to change things really. I think its going to take legislation. Our demonstrations must lead to legislation. We need federal legislation and we need the criminal Justice System, which is why the federal government coming in is so important. Attorney general eric holders unprecedented trip sent a signal. We didnt see Bobby Kennedy go to the south in civil rights area. We saw a sitting attorney general go to ferguson and i think thats historic. I think these moves will lead to real change. Our chance must lead to change, our demonstration for legislation. Well get up there. You must remember the montgomery bus boycott started in 1955. We didnt get civil rights legislation until 64. Change takes time. But those of us that are committed are willing to put in the time because we cannot tolerate not having the change. Theres a big article on u. S. Magazine this week, talks about how close your contact with the white house is. How you often serve as kind of a surrogate for the white house. Let me ask you about the president and in the case of ferguson in particular, racial relations in america in general. Is he doing enough . First of all, i am not a sir gatt. I have access to the white house in every era going back to lincoln, Frederick Douglass talks with those leading at the time. Not comparing but thats nothing unusual. I went to ferguson because the family, the grandfather asked me to come. The white house called while i was there, talked to me and others. Not a surrogate. It is a customary traditional role. I think the president , by addressing it twice while on vacation, not a statement but coming out live, and yet not compromising the right of the family. Because where i was nervous because ive been in this a while. Im not a studio activist or someone in an ivory tower, ive been in there. For the president to go further, then it would be used in a legal context to say the president ordered the indictment, rather than let the process go fairly with the president governing and saying weve got to deal im reading this morning saying weve got to deal with military equipment and expenditures on citizens. We in terms of those that are talking to the family and lawyers involve these cases dont need the president to politicize it and give an escape from the criminal Justice System from those that need to be investigated and possibly brought into the criminal Justice System. A lot of people talking are not talking to the victims who dont need their rights violated by politics. We have just a few seconds left, reverend. What would be justice in this case . Justice is a fair and impartial investigation. Let the facts go where they need to go. Too often wit