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Named ted cruz or marco rubio or john kasich, but perhaps its mitt romney. Some heard governor romneys speech on thursday and thought, hey, maybe hes interested in the nomination. Well, governor romney joins me now this morning. Governor, welcome back to meet the press, sir. Thank you, chuck. Good to be with you. Well, let me start with the results from last night, a better than expected night for ted cruz, not as good of a night donald trump thought he was going to have, do you think you had an impact . I think i had a big impact. I think a lotd of people were surprised by how well ted cruz did. He got more delegates than donald trump last night. He was aenthusiastic, donald trump was uncharacteristically low energy last night. I think he was really surprised. I think this is a campaign that doesnt begin to be over. I have a feeling its groek e going it break a few more rules before we finish. Ted cruz, do you believe hes emerged as the chief antitrump candidate and are you ready to well, i think hes emerging now. He had a strong night won seven states to donalds ten states and i wouldnt writeoff marco rubio or john kasich at this point. Marco rubio very strong in florida. More recent polls have him within a few points of donald trump. And john kasich leading in ohio. So they may be favorite son candidates or may emerge down the road being a very strong candidate on their own. You had said its a time for choosing. You seem to indicate that on march 16th its a time for choosing. Is that when you are going to endorse an alternative officially . I may well at that point. It depends of course on what happens that night, but, you know, im leaning towards supporting someone and going out on the campaign trail and try to convince people to vote for the person who i think can help the country in a very critical time. And who also can represent conservative values and conservative ideals. A real deal republican, if you will. Let me confirm, are you comfortable supporting john any one of those three candidates against donald trump . Absolutely. Any one of those three is a real republican. Theyve demonstrated over time that they share conservative values. Theres some differences on policy or on tactics to implement policy, but id be very proud having any one of them at the top of the ticket. Donald trump on the other hand is someone who represents something entirely different. And in my view is not at all the real deal. This is a guy who pretends to be one thing and is Something Else entirely. You know, i want to go to something you said about Donald Trumps business background in your speech last thursday. Let me play a clip. His bankruptcies have crushed small businesses. And the men and women who work for them. He inherited his business. He didnt create it. And whatever happened to Trump Airlines . How about Trump University . And then theres trump magazine. And trump vodka. And trump steaks. And trump mortgage. A business genius he is not. His endorsement four years earlier, this is what you said about his business background. Donald trump has shown an extraordinary ability to understand how our economy works, to create jobs for the American People. I spent my life in the private sector, not quite as successful as this guy, but successful nonetheless. Governor, all those unsuccessful businesses that you outlined on thursday, Trump Airlines, Trump University, trump vodka, those are all failures before 2012 as well. Were you just sort of saying something you had to say four years ago in order to accept his endorsement . Well, donald trump has made a lot of money for himself. And theres no question that hes got a lot of money in his pockets and has been successful on that score. But if you look at his record overall and there are other, by the way, failures, you say, okay, he made a lot of money for himself. Inherited a lot of money from his dad, but this is not a guy whos a selfmade man. And this is a guy whos crushed why did you say nice things about him four years ago . Why did you say so many nice things about his Business Career when clearly youre not impressed . You know, hes made a lot of money for himself and im gracious enough in a setting where someones endorsed me to point out that hes been successful, made a lot of money, has a lot of hotels and so forth, but you cant ignore the fact hes had a lot of failures. He tries to sell himself in this campaign as nothing but success successful. Hes not a loser. Hes lost time and time again and crushed a lot of people in the process. And the thing that i find most unusual, and perhaps outrageous, is that even though he says hes worth 10 billion, he finds it in his interest to go out and bilk people of 10,000 here, 15,000 there for trump universi. These people have really been scammed. I want to make sure the American People are not subject to the same kind of scam as we nominate a president. I understand that. But i want to go you did, you laid out a whole bunch of things you thought disqualified trump, not just his business background. You thought his support for war, you were pretty critical of the vulgar language he uses, the insulting of sms he was pretty insulting of muslims four years ago. He was the face of the birther movement, which has been totally discredited. And i got to play you something here, in 2011, listen to this vulgarity he used. Ed the messenger is important. I could have one man say, were going to tax you 25 . And i can say another, listen to me, [ bleep ], were going to tax you 25 . Governor, its sunday morning so we had to beep that out, but it was this horrible frankly fbomb tirade he went on. Its been making the rounds on youtube. Again, in 2011. So i go back, do you believe you mainstreamed trump, made him acceptable . And do you regret it . Chuck, there are a lot of people who supported me who im sure used the fbomb and other words, i had 61 Million People vote for me in the general election. Million people for president. And im happy to accept the endorsement of a lot of people who i disagree with on some issues, and some people who i wouldnt want to be associated with the things they say. But i at this stage am at a point where looking at donald trump and the future of the country. And we say to ourselves is someone with his record and someone who believes the things he believes which in my view would lead to a recession and to a trade war and lead to a world being less safe, do we want that person to be president of the United States . Do we want that clip you just saw being on tv for our kids to see time and time again . Even the debate, the president ial debate last week donald trump is saying something i dont want my grandkids to watch. So this guy, look, he may be colorful, he may have made a lot of money for himself, he is not the person who should be president of the United States. But in hindsight i take it youre embarrassed that you stood next to donald trump four years ago . You know, some of the things he said more recently would have with regards to the clue clux ku klux klan, things about muslims in particular, i would have had a difficult time standing next to him four years ago. You made that compelling speech, some called it the clearest indictment of trump yet that anybody had done. And hours later the three candidates running against donald trump sat on a debate stage and all pledged to support him if hes the nominee. Did that disappoint you . I think it was expected. They had been asked that from the very beginning of the campaign. And theyve pledged to support whoever the nominee was and they had to stand by their pledge. But you saw with few exceptions they hesitated when it came time to answer that question. It was a difficult one for them to swallow. You know, i respect the fact that they honored their word as ted cruz said, but donald trump is a more and more difficult person to support in part because he says, look, hes going to become president ial, hell act president ial and even on that debate stage and in his reaction to my speech, hes anything but president ial. Support either donald trump or Hillary Clinton for president. You would look for another way, maybe you skip the vote, maybe you vote for a third party candidate, is donald trump becoming president worse in your mind than Hillary Clinton becoming president . Both of them are pretty darn bad. As Lindsey Graham said, a poison or a bullet. And im going to be voting, but ill vote for someone whos on the ballot that i think is a real conservative and who would make us proud. And i may write in a name if i cant find such a person. Do you believe there should be, if trumps going to be on a glide path to the nomination, do you think there should be a concerted third party effort by republicans, maybe its the constitution party, maybe its Something Else . Im not going to encourage at this stage the creation of a new party. But i think it would be very difficult for donald trump in the final analysis to get the nomination. I think were going to nominate someone who really represents our party. And i believe that will happen in the process leading up to the convention. But if the convention has no one delegates, then well have the 2,000plus delegates there and theyll have to make an asaysment. They were elected by their people in their respective states make the judgment as to who should be our nominee. You told my colleague on friday you would not be a candidate for president. But let me ask you the way general sherman was once asked. If nominated, will you accept the nomination, if your name is placed in the nomination and was elected at this cleveland convention, would you accept it . You know, i cant imagine anything like that happening. And i dont think anyone in our party should say, oh, no, even if the people of the party wanted me to be the president , i would say no to it. No ones going to say that. But i can tell you this, im not a candidate, im not going to be a candidate. Im going to be endorsing one of the people whos running for president. And one of the people i can guarantee you this. One of the people running for president , one of the four, is going to be the Republican Party nominee. Three of the four are people i would endorse. But im not running and im not going to be running. All right. Governor mitt romney, i will have to leave it there. 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This cloud hfo is i croft welcome back. There are six more contests by the way coming up in just the next few days. Today, democrats hold their and then puerto rico holds its republican primary today. Then on tuesday republicans have caucuses in hawaii and a primary in idaho, and both parties have primaries in mississippi and michigan. Michigan perhaps is the big prize, and so we have a brand new nbc news the wall street journal marist poll to show you this morning, it has donald trump way out in front at 41 . Ted cruz and marco rubio sitting much farther behind. And john kasich, who is hoping for a big boost from michigan, we have him languishing in last place. We know there are other polls that indicate hes stronger. Well find out on tuesday. And on the democratic side let me show you numbers, Hillary Clinton with a comfortable 17point lead over bernie sanders, but both campaigns have indicated to me they believe this race is much close r than what our polinge ing polling indicates. We bring in our panel. Stephen henderson, Editorial Page Editor for the big the bigamimy primary the detroit free press. Stephen, welcome to you. Let me just start with mitt romney. I feel like theres two different reactions here between david and mary. David, what was your sense of romney on the trump endorsement and romney leaving that door open about running . First on the romney on what happened thursday, finally. Finally somebodys beginning a sustained attack on donald trump. And to me every Republican Office holder if they want to save their party has to continue that attack. And its not an attack on things people like about him that hes politically incorrect and a bully, thats what voters like. Its attack that he betrays people, hes a betrayer and narcissist, thinks only about himself. I think everyones got to hit this note. Theyve got credited examples of people scammed by Trump University, trump mortgage, all the other stuff. And keep this going day after day. Mary, did you think it was effective . You werent so sure the romney speech was effective. I think it was the wrong messenger and wrong timing substance of it. Because when you attack trump the person, youre trumping the people who support him. When you show that his Business Record isnt good and all that other stuff, then you make people think this is evidenced in the late vote went to cruz in louisiana and well, actually, let me show you since you brought it up, let me show you the louisiana numbers. This is from our friends at 538 they were able to compare. This is what according to the early vote totals, donald trump, look at that, 24point lead. Election day itself, louisiana has some early voting, election day itself was a total tie. That says a lot. Clearly late breakers for cruz. I will add to that cruz won the delegate. We pick our delegates by caucus, so he won those two. But i think rubio hurt trump more than romney hurt trump. But rubio hurt himself in doing it. But what mitt did say, which is important, the time for choosing and if the party wants to stop trump, they have to stop kasich. And they have to stop rubio. And they have to stop them right now, saving rubio the embarrassment of losing his home state. If trump goes through florida and ohio, its over. When you reallocated your michigan vote, all the carson votes went to anybody but trump. Right. And most of them went to cruz. Hes a real deal conservative. I dont know whats the problem kelly, we know the problem on capitol hill, right . Absolutely. He does not have many friends there. But one of theproblems is t party starting to say stop trump does not offer the voters one choice and so reluctant to do it in your interview with mitt romney not willing to choose someone else right now. So those against trump who say hes not truly a republican, not really a conservative, but then you have, you know, this never trump crowd. And then you have the voters who say, well, no forever trump. If you tell me never, i say forever. Right. They get back in. Credibility, you have republicans saying trump is not one of us and yet a lot of things hes saying are said in coded language by other republicans. I wrote a column last week about paul ryan for instance saying this is not a party that preys on peoples prejudices and yet you think of lots of examples of republicans doing exactly that going back to Ronald Reagan giving a states rights speech in 1980 in mississippi. This goes on all the time in coded ways. Trump is saying these things more explicitly and it makes things uncomfortable and i know it does too. No, it doesnt make me uncomfortable it makes me want to choke you because its ridiculous and its the creation of trump. Conservatives do not consider themselves bigots or homophobes. He is x paend expanding the electorate bringing in likeminded libertarians, young people. Trump is expanding the electorate by getting people who are sick of being called bigots border, thats not this is not a race race, okay, lets not go there. I think it is. I mean, i think theres no question what hes doing is appealing to race and republicans have done that for a long time. By the way, there was Something Else donald trump did yesterday and grabbed my eye, and, dave, i have to show it to you and get you to react to it as well. Here it is. Ive never done this before. Can i have a pledge, a swearing . Raise your right hand. I do solemnly swear that i no matter how i feel, no matter what the conditions if theres hurricanes or whatever, thats good enough will vote on or trump for president thank you. David, the visual, the hands go up, trump asks for a pledge. Wow. I was flabbergasted. The number one trait that associates or correlates with trumps support is authoritarianism. We live in a democracy where we recognize other people and we make messy deals. And were always sort of disappointed. Thats what politics is. Theres two ways to run a country like that. You can either run it with democracy and compromise or through authoritarianism. For some reason theres something in the electorate right now people feel theyre losing out on things, that they want a strong leader who will show me the way. And thats what but they want a strong leader whos consistent. You cant be flexible on or sketchy on rules of engagement, flexible on the border or compromising on scotus, on the supreme court, you cant do that. How is donald trump anything but flexible . I mean, he switches position on that undermines the message. If the messenger is the message that undermines his credibility as an authority figure. Was that a sign of weakness . A, he didnt anticipate the visual of how that would stand over time but also signaling to show up . Its a fair point. As you point out he also had the date wrong. Early voting is one when early voting shuts down but probably confusing to some people. Were going to take a pause. Back in a little bit. Senator Lindsey Graham will be here. And he has said this. My party has gone bat [ bleep ] crazy. All of the words we used today on meet the press are Something Else. Anyway, he now says it may be defeat ald trump. And then later youre right. I am still white trash. T be s a imitating life or the otay und . Riey sndfi yofilm bf,atn . Nobui am sinthsu ytli movieu it hoch iormation coninnglege. Vian m b a fm. I amlyzisfoctormanagerss ople hea professials. Od butlvimaal youg,. Before fibromyalgia, i was on the go. I was organized. I was a doer. Then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. My doctor and i agreed moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. She also prescribed lyrica. Fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. Lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. 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The Convention May be in july, but its possible that Donald Trumps opponents have just nine days to truly stop him. Why . Because it all comes down to winner take all states florida and ohio. Let me break down a few scenarios to explain why time is so short. Heres the delegate count as of this sunday morning. So so far here as you can see trump has won 45 of all delegates awarded so far. Thats majority. Thats pretty important. Lets assume he wins that same 45 for all of the remaining contests through march 15 besides florida and ohio. Were going to do some estimates here. If trump wins both florida and ohio on march 15th, heres what happens. He would end up with a nearly as you can see. And of course his chances, marco rubio, john kasich both probably drop out if they lose their home states, so trump would need to just win 51 of all remaining delegates in a oneonone versus ted cruz. You think of places like new york, california, et cetera. But what happens if trump only wins one of the two big states . Well, we did that math too. If he wins florida but kasich wins ohio, polls seem to indicate, our projections look Something Like this. And that respect trump then would need to win 57 of all remaining delegates. Thats tougher, but actually still somewhat doable. And if trump wins ohio but rubio wins florida, by the way, its kind of a similar story. For trump. And it comes if rubio and kasich both win their home states. Then trump would need 67 of all remaining delegates in order to avoid a contested convention. Guess what, its an extremely heavy lift especially because rubio and kasich, you think theyre dropping out if they win their home states . No way. All four stay in, the likelihood of the contested convention nears 100 . And, oh my, would Cleveland Rock then. In any other year with any other nomination was locked up, but that conventional wisdom totally out the door. 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I began to think you were playing the south sea circuits. You could have known better. How could i. From then on her own description her life was dough voted to her husband, aserry toldre p and ron and stepmother h two children by former wife jane wyman. Then came politics and her long career in politics. First as first lady to governor Ronald Reagan in 1986. What would you say to the voters . My. And then to president reagan, i guess, in 1980. After the president was shot by a wouldbe assassin two months into his first term, his wife was forever shaken. Every time he went out and talked to thousands of people, my heart stopped. But she carried on. Steadfast in her chosen roles as the president s protector, best friend, and partner, with efforts like the antidrug Campaign Campaign for which she was rer linked. When it comes to drugs and alcohol, just say no. Reporter she was criticized for consulting an astrologer over the president s schedule. Dubbed queen nancy for her expensive taste in fashion and whout decourse and managing her husband. But the thing is she never wavered as a loving ways in all the ways she knew. When in the mid90s. The president revealed he had alzheimers disease, the partner who would never leave his side visited the white house line brair to share. We learn of the terrible pain and loneliness must be endured as each day brings another reminder of this very long goodbye. So, nancy, let me say thank you for all you do. Thank you for your love, and thank you for just being you. Reporter she stayed close to her ronnie even in her last years. She made it a point to be there when the Reagan Library hosted Election Year debates and to visit her husbands resting place, a love story to the very end. The reagan family says mrs. Reagan died peacefully in her sleep sunday. She was 94 years old. In her honor, flags have been ordered to fly at halfstaff at the u. S. Capitol and in california flowers are being whe shell be laid to rest alongside her husband. Funeral plans have not yet been released. And now to the 2016 election. Both candidates were quick to hit the ongoing water crisis in the city and didnt hold back on michigan governor rick snyders role or his future. So i swrould a full investigation, determineho knew what when, and, yes, people should be fired. President sanders would fire anybody who knew about what happened. I believe the governor of this state should understand that his dereliction of duty was irresponse, he should resign. I agree. The governor should resign or be recalled, and we should support the efforts of citizens attempting to achieve that. Governor snyder has responded

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