Transcripts For WPVI This Week With George Stephanopoulos 20240622

What a week it has been. Rarely has so much history been in so few days. Confederate flags falling all across the south. At the center of it all, president obama, in what may be his best week in office. He passes a trade bill that appeared to be dead. Saving obamacare for the second time. For the first time securing the right to marriage for all americans. This decision a firms what millions of americans already believe in their hearts when all americans are treated as equal, were all more free. Then that arresting scene in charleston a president summoning the spirit of america in song. Amazing grace how sweet what a week. We begin at the Supreme Court, with our expert terry moran, you have been covering the court for three decades. Reporter george the court has seen a lot of history. I cant think of a week to match it. The court with emphatic finality bringing to a close two National Debates that have been roilg the country, Health Care Obamacare and equality for gays under the marriage law. The tremendous power of this court and the men and women who sit on it. The most powerful chief justice john roberts, president obama voted against him when he was confirmed as chief justice. For the second time Justice Roberts saves obamacare. Hes going to be chief justice for a long time however, and we did see in that case and in the gay marriage case something very true about him, this is a judge who doesnt like to swing for the fences. He wouldnt join Justice Scalia the last time or this time in bringing down obamacare, and this time plunging the health care of millions of americans into chaos and he wouldnt join Justice Kennedy in rewriting the marriage laws. In fact in that samesex marriage case a fierce defense by the justice. What an unlikely champion of gay rights. I actually covered his confirmation hearing back in 1987 when he took over from judge robert bork and that debate was intellectual. Right until this week Justice Kennedy has always shown for him to judging isnt just about intellectual rigor and much to the mockery of many conservatives in academics hes always brought heart to his decisions. Liberty, the most important word in Justice Kennedys injuries jurisprudence jurisprudence. To all americans under the marriage laws. And wrote really a landmark opinion. Okay thanks terry. Now the man who brought that landmark case to the Supreme Court. Jim obergefell. There he is on the steps of the Supreme Court this week celebrating the decision. He joins us from San Francisco this morning and here in the new york one of the Founding Fathers of the samesaex marriage movement. Jim, we saw you on the Supreme Court steps, getting that phone call also from president obama on friday two days out, how does it all feel . It still feels a bit unreal george the simple fight that i started with my husband and by simple it was about us its now implyications so far beyond us. Its amazing. Lot of Americans Still upset by this ruling governor Mike Huckabee is going to be coming on the program yesterday hes calling on people to reject judicial tyranny. What is your message to him . I would simply like to say, think about your brother, your son, your sister your daughter a dear friend if one of them were gay, they would still be the same person you would still love them. Wouldnt you want them to enjoy the same rights . Were simply asking to be treated equally and to enjoy the institution of marriage and to be able to commit to the ones we love. Chief Justice Roberts fiery dissent. One of the points he made your movement is making progress all across the country, legislation chors are voting for samesex marriage and thats where it belongs. He went on the say this stealing this issue from the people will cast a cloud over samesex marriage making a dramatic social change that much more difficult to accept. How do you respond to that . We worked very hard to move the American People and the American People did move 63 now support the freedom to marry, that will go way up. The fact of the matter is we have a constitution and the constitution guarantees the freedom to marry the equality that jim spoke so movingly and we shouldnt have to be working to get a vote or up and down on whether any american can share in that constitutional guarantee. Back in 1983 you were in Harvard Law School that was your thesis at Harvard Law School. What now . Freedom to marry, your group goes out of business what is the next challenge . Right. Of course the work is not done. We need to harness the conversation we need to bring the stories of jims and johns and many others to places where the conversation has just started. And give people a chance to see the quiet dignity of gay couples. We need to harness that growth and understanding that will come from people seeing these real people to the work ahead including particularly a federal civil rights law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. And jim, whats next for you . George, for me to continue in this fight, i have discovered that fighting for something thats bigger than me is very important to me and i will continue like evan said to be involved in the fight for nondiscrimination, to make sure that the Lgbt Community across the country truly is equal part of society and deservdeserving. Jim, obergefell and evan thank you. Lets turn now to Mike Huckabee governor, you just heard jim obergefell, what is your response . You know im deeply moved by his comments and i understand his personal passions, but i would warn people what we have seen this week is something that changes not so much the product but the process of how we govern we have always been a nation of law, were now a nation of men, what happened this week so brilliantly pointed out by justice scaleiascalia this was done through a court edict of five unelected lawyers part of a committee who decided that they knew better than the legislators who get to make laws. And george this case wasnt so much about a matter of Marriage Equality it was marriage redefinition. And i think people have to say, if youre going to have a new celebration that were not going to discriminate may i ask, are we going to now discriminate against people of faith who may disagree of this ruling . Are they going to be forced out of business . The florists caters like the ceo of mozilla who was run out of his job because of his support are we going to trade one revel of whats called discrimination for a new level of discrimination. What are you calling on people to do right now . Spell out exactly what that means. George judicial tyranny is when we believe the courts have a right to bypass the process of law and we have seen it this week in two cases, the obamacare case where Justice Scalia said we should call it scotuscare. And then in the samesex marriage. Are you calling for civil disobedience . I dont think a lot of pastors and Christian Schools are going to have a choice theyre either going to follow god, what they truly believe, or they will follow civil law, theyll go the path of dr. Martin luther king who in his brilliant essay reminded us that an unjust law is no law at all. I do think were going to see a lot of pastors who will have to make this tough decision youre going to see it on the part of christian Business Owners Christian School administrators. How about county clerks . Should they issue samesex marriage licenses . If they have an objection i think they should be accuseexcused. The states who have a constitutional amendment that affirms marriage as has been affirmed by courts for 135 since the ratification of the 14th amendment right up through the first time we have seen samesex marriage enacted by any state, in many states you have overwhelming majorities of the people who voted to say that they believe marriage is between a man and a woman. George what we have done. Let me ask people on the left a future court that is conservative and that conservative Court Decides that this was a mistake and were going to go back to traditional marriage and were also going to say that every unborn person is in fact a person and is absolutely guaranteed due process and therefore, we would strike down the idea of abortion from conception forward, is the left going to be okay to let the Supreme Court make that decision . Let me ask you this based on the response this week i think they is to say, thats fine. When five lawyers on the Supreme Court make that decision were okay with it. So youre president today, lets assume that today, would you refuse to enforce this decision . I would say when the congress provides enabling legislation and the peoples representatives votes and it gets to my desk well consider it. We have seen something that i find very interesting. When the president lit up the white house the other night with rainbow colors i guess thats his prerogative, if i become president , i just want to remind people please dont complain if i were to put a nativity scene out during christmas and say, if its my house, i get to do with it what i wish. Let me talk about the other big issue of the week coming out of those killings at a church in South Carolina we have seen a cascade of states take down the Confederate Flags, what is your reaction to that . I think South Carolina made a proper decision and the governor is to be commended for her leadership. They stepped up and said if this is an offense, its not worth it to be so twicive. I know this will cause a lot of angst, it was republicans who stepped up and made this happen. Let me give tribute to the republican governor back in the mid90s also attempted to do this and essentially lost his reelection because of it. When people talk about the republicans dont care about race i find that not only offensively, george i find it wrong. Because in so many cases, whether it was eisenhower or others it was republicans who were at the forefront of bringing civil right and you said when president obama got elected the gop had done a pathetic job to reach out to other people. What did you make of president s eul eulogy in South Carolina. There were times when i think he strayed into more of a political agenda than a true eulogy. I never used it as an occasion to focus on the person and the qualities of that person who was deseased and not to make it a time of cause. Governor Mike Huckabee thank you for joining us this morning. Reactions from matthew dowd our political analyst. What a momentous few days. Significant and meaningful. Throwback to the 60s. The fact that one flag came down and the other flag weptnt up which was the rainbow flag. Keep in mind its a moment and there are still unbelievable amount of divisions as we can hear from Mike Huckabees interview. The raises of one flag and the raising of another hasnt quieted. Do you agree with that ken black well . I think it was a traumatic week. Overnight, grand mothers and aunts and uncles who believed in the bible and who believe in their christian teachings are going to be deemed bigots going to be deemed as standing in the way of recognition of humanity, i think thats sad. We have changed we have amended our constitution 27 times in a very deliberate process. I think that we in fact should have let that process work out and the court shouldnt have legislation from the bench. Cokie. I thought the images of the week were just striking. Sitting in front of the president when he made that extraordinary eulogy the africanamerican senator from the state of South Carolina both republicans by the way, and the other image that really street struck me of a couple getting married in hattiesburg, mississippi, a female preacher and an image that americans havent seen before. Show the country is a very very different country. Lot of changes to abbosh. Water shed moment. It was a water shed moment in our history and i think in our journey toward equal justice under the law. George many days i have worked past the Supreme Court, looked at those words and turned my head. Donna brazile, thanks very much. Up next here after those horrific terror attacks friday new terror warnings here at home and Bernie Sanders rising fast in the race against Hillary Clinton, can he sustain the surge . Hes live from New Hampshire this morning. Announcer this week with George Stephanopoulos brought to you by cisco. 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Trying to reach troubled mind in the u. S. Through social media. Reporter in response the fbi is conducting a Broad Campaign targeting suspected radicals. Seven arrests in the last month alone. The fbi says he was studying how to build a Pressure Cooker bomb like those used in the Boston Marathon attack and i think the threat is the most significant we faced since the september 11th attacks. Reporter the Terror Threat has evolved, made clear in texas, when two men drove hundreds of miles to allegedly commit maz murderer against a cartoon contest. Willing to die for their cause after being recruited primarily if not solely online. Pierre joins us now along with congressman peter king. Pierre you talked about garland being a moment. Are we seeing more arrests, do they believe there are more lone wolfs or getting more aggressive . A combination of both. Theyre not waiting for cases to fully mature. The other thing is this social Media Campaign by isis is a gamechanger i have never seen Law Enforcement as focused on one thing as they are now, isis is using that social Media Campaign to everyday this moment send out messages to encourage people to do something wherever they are. Every day, around the world. Congressman, we have seen isis say, we want to see attacks during the month of ra maddian, attacks toon Independence Day. What are you hearing from your intelligence sources . More concern now than any time since 9 11. Isis really they have a multilevel sense of operation. Also some coordination amongst these socalled lone wolfs out there. You saw jeh johnson Homeland Security secretary. Talking about the fourth of july. They dont put those statements that far in advance unless theres a concern. What is the fact that we could see somewhat coordinated attacks on friday hours apart even if people werent talking. Isis they can reach the disafced they can reach the disenchanted. Police officers attacked with hatchets. Arrests here in new york. No not just something that happened by coincidence. Pierre a study by the new American Foundation that showed since 9 11 nearly as twice have been killed by they also add a study, that asked sheriff and Police Department nationwide to rank the three biggest threats from violent extremists. 39 aek actinspired violence. I think theyre very concerned about the isis threat because of the violent, horrific nature of what could happen in the United States that could get National Coverage think of a lone wolf attacking a mall and you could have a situation similar to what you saw in france a few months ago. I totally disregard what the the New York Times, i cant believe any real Law Enforcement looking at the potential threats out there. The Boston Marathon bombing, four kidd almost 300 people injured. Eric holder kept him awake at night was the lone wolf islamic terrorist would carry out an attack. 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Youre up with the crowd in kean New Hampshire, let me tell you a secret were going to win a New Hampshire, care to repeat that prediction now . Were going to win New Hampshire, were going to win iowa and i think were going to win the democratic nomination and the presidency ill tell you why, the American People are sick and tired of seeing the disappearance of the great middle class of this country, theyre sick and tired of working longer hours for low wages, while at the same time 99 of all new income generated is going to the top 1 and the top 0. 1 owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 . We have seen a massive shift of wealth and income from ordinary americans to the very richest people in this country and the American People are saying enough is enough, we need to create an economy that works for all of us and not just for a handful of billionaire and youre drawing fire as well particularly on your record in guns. Put out a video this week. Bernie sanders voted against the brady bill. And Bernie Sanders voted to give gun manufactures protection from the victims. Bernie sanders is no progressive when it comes to guns. I saw you smiling when it was being played what is your response . Well, i think the people of vermont know differently, every single race that i have run in with the exception of one, the nra and the gun lobbies and the people who are most interested in supported my opponent. I have a lifetime voting record with the nra somewhere between d and f, coming from a state that has virtually no gun control at all, i cast what was a pretty brave vote banning assault weapons, doing away the gun show loophole and in substantiate background checks so that we make sure that guns do not fall in the hands of those people who should not have it. A strong record. But let me tell you this george, in terms of gun control, if were going to have any success, what we need to do is bridge this Cultural Divide between rural american and urban american and come up with some commonsense legislation, which includes everything that i just voted for and maybe more and we cant have people dem goeging against folks because they go out hunt. Rural american has to understand that guns in vermont is not the same thing in guns in chicago where theyre used to kill kids or shoot at police officers. I think we need a National Dialogue and coming from a state that has virtually no gun control but having voted time again for strong gun control, i think im in a position to make that happen. Youre from a state thats 95 white as well. A poll out this week shows how this might be affecting you right now, support among nonwhites, it said clinton has 91 , Bernie Sanders, just 3 . How do close that gap . Well, i tell you how you do that george someone whos been involved in the Civil Rights Movement for my entire adult life i was arrested as a student protesting segregation of schools in chicago, marched with Martin Luther king in the great march on washington i have a long history in fighting for civil rights. I understand that many people in the Africanamerican Community may not understand that but i think the issues that we are dealing with combatting 51 africanamerican youth unemployment talking about the need that public colleges and universities should be tuitionfree raising the minimum wage to 15 an hour creating millions of jobs by rebuilding our infrastructure. To be honest with you, given the disparity that were seeing in income and wealth in this country, it applies even more to the Africanamerican Community. What were going to do is make an a major Outreach Program to those communities. How about the issue of health care coming out of the Supreme Court case saving obamacare for the second time. You consistently called for a singlepayer system medicare for everyone if you were president , would you continue to fight for that and is that responsible would it be more effective use of your time and president ial resources to strengthen the obamacare thats already in place . Well let me just say this i havent been a great fan of the Supreme Court, their decision on Citizens United opening up the opportunity for billionaires to buy elections will go down as history as one of the worst decisions ever made. But i applaud them for the two decisions they made this week on Affordable Care act and on gay marriage. This was really a nograiner no one should we should look at the exchanges any differently than state exchanges. Despite the gains of the Affordable Care act, we still have 35 million americans without any Health Insurance and many more who are underinsured. Meanwhile, we end spending almost twice as much per capita on health care as any other country. We need to join the industrialized world. We the only country that doesnt guarantee health care to all people as a right. So i do believe that we have to move toward a medicare for all, singlepayer system i dont think its not going to happen tomorrow. Finally, youre going to be the next president of the United States if thats true youll be the oldest president ever elected, 75 years old on election day, i believe, what do you say people who might be concerned about your age . Well why dont you follow me around this weekend in New Hampshire, where were doing seven separate events and understand that thank god, im blessed with very good health i dont think i have take an day off because of sickness in several years. As a kid, a longdistance runner im blessed with endurance and im blessed with health and were going to do anything to win this campaign and good a president i possibly can be. Senator sanders, thanks very much for joining us this morning. Thank you. Up next the roundtable is back with more debate on a historic week what does it mean for the white house race . And why does donald trump have everyone on edge. Catch this week online on facebook and on twitter. Judge kennedy n recent weeks, a true conservative one who believes our constitutional system is one of the enumerated powers we the people who have granted certain rights to the people not the other way around. Restricts a states exercise of that power it remains with the states or the people. President reagan nominating Anthony Kennedy back in 1987. Were back with the roundtable again right now, and donna, let me i begin with you, we heard Ken Blackwell in the last roundtable how he thought the Supreme Court shortcircuited that. Well george the Supreme Court may have short care it issed it was the right decision. You saw state after state over the last two years began to grant Marriage Equality this is a moment as i mentioned before a watershed moment and no question that the Supreme Court, Justice Kennedy and perhaps others, finally applied the law as it should have stood for the entire time. Im glad that we have moved past this issue and now we have to fight other battles. Also george though thats the role of the Supreme Court is to at times take over from the elective process and say, we have something beyond that which is the constitution of the United States. If we had depended on majority rule we wouldnt have gotten to the civil rights place where we are today, it required the courts saying there are certain rights regardless of what the majority of the voters think and thats what happened Justice Roberts said it wasnt in the constitution. It wasnt in the constitution, no one has a right to redefine marriage a definition that has been in existence for over 2500 years, the reality is this the court did cut short the democratic process and the reason that people are getting in a big uproar is because, if you actually want change thats accepted by folks, in fact use that poerocess. Another division created here today, between the republican candidates for president , pretty striking, the candidates like jeb bush marco rubio, john kasich saying we dont like the decision but its the law of land. Ted cruz Mike Huckabee calling for resistance and a constitutional amendment. Folks saying that the Supreme Court should abolish this is a system of government where people vote. We have a Supreme Courtcourt, the Supreme Court gets to vote. What i think what is amazing about this moment first, a week ago, this liberal said, this is a conservative court that makes political decisions. Today, the conservatives this is a liberal court that makes political decisions. In the end, the interesting thing is the country led on this issue. Nearly twothirds of the country, 60 of the country support gay marriage. When you look at Hillary Clinton, this is my fault i have with Hillary Clinton and barack obama and bill clinton, theyre criticizing now the people of faith who say i object to this their evolution on this issue was recent. Kennedys final statement in his decision something that every marriage couple should read and everybody come templated. Regardless of their sexuality, forming a marriage union, two people become something greater than once they were. Look at the end of you dont think people become better in marriage . He actually has a conservative view of marriage. Right. Should be celebrating today is teddy kennedy, because he in fact blocked an original being being on the Supreme Court, robert work at the end of the day, its a clash of how you view the constitution do you see it as being mallable and the thee lodgian in chief can change. Thats what im objecting to and i think a lot of folks are objecting to the people get cut out of this process. Donna . People have been cut of the process because the constitution denied them basic human rights. Its been a living document. Its been a possess. It was a process. One of the things that we saw, john roberts in the Health Care Case was true to his hearings he was going to be basically umpire in chief justice. Justice roberts, hes actually maintained his position which was of judicial restraint. His belief that there was no part of the constitution that said you cant ban gay marriage so he did there and he actually he gave deference to the legislative process. He basically said there was a screwup on some words and the process, this is basic what they said again, people dont want an objective justice anymore, they want a partisan justice, a justice thats going to go along with their position based on whether or not its in constitution. He also cares deeply about the court and the reputation of the court. The fact is even though gay marriage has more people upset and delighted depending on the point of View Health Care would have affected millions of people in their daytoday lives, and the practicality of that would the impracticality would have reflected badly on the court. Donna, on some of the politics here i wonder democrats celebrating this week. President obama celebrating what could have been his best week with a lot of help from republicans. I wonder if the Supreme Court has actually done the republican nominee for a favor i think for jeb bush and for perhaps marco rubio who understand if they win the nomination they have to face a much larger electorate perhaps it did, i think on the republican side theyre going to relitigate this theyre going to look backward and inward i think its going to destroy and hurt the nomination. I dont think so. At the end of the day, the primary process is about listening to the people and showing them that you can be a standard bearer for them. This Supreme Court decision is yet to be played out in local communities. Public school systems, curriculums in schools will be changed. Force some decisions to be made by parents. This is bakers photographers, folks who hold deeply religious convictions are going to be seeing their religious liberty atting risk, we have why . Why . Its protected in the constitution. Its compatible with civil rights. Folks are litigating right now, a photographer who doesnt want to take photos at a gay marriage. What does it mean Going Forward for the nominee . I think, on one aspect of this it could help the eventually republican nominee only if theyre able to basically bridge the divide that exists between people that see america as a pluralistic system and then people of faith and i think part of the problem that we have had here today, the people of faith dont feel respected in where they sit and where they stand. People on the pluralistic side dont feel a sense of come passionened until we figure how do you bridge that . Part of a candidate to emerge i dont see one on the democratic or on the republican side. Actually, this is great opportunity for Hillary Clinton. Absolutely. This is the place, because shes a person of faith and she could be the person to articulate exactly what youre saying. The truth is, what youre going to see is in the debates, the republican debates, which are going to be great fun for us is going to be everybody trying to outdo george wait a second. I agree with hillary can do that. She should have stood up george and said listen i have evolved recently on this issue. And we should the time and the space i needed to evolve on this issue we should give to other people who havent yet evolved. But tell me we have a right to believe, we dont have just a right to worship, carry our beliefs in our daytoday activities in the Public Square if you believe in natural marriage as a union between a man and a woman you live that out, thats how you want your children taught in the Public School system what happens to you . Donna, i want to reflect everyone on the events coming out of South Carolina as well seeing the flags come down capped by that eulogy by president obama on friday. What a moment george. Today we bury another soul. You know over the last couple of weeks, the president i think was at real pain to try to figure out how to ulgize someone he knew his remarks were basically about grace, not just about the moment but feeling the pain and anguish of that community and knowing that he could bring healing through his own words. I never thought that i would see a president let alone this one, but to actually sing a song that has so much meaning. The greatest power we saw over the course of the last weekend was not the president was the people in cha room that basically faced the people that killed their relatives and said i forgive you, im going to show you love instead of hate that to me was the most powerful message. I was in South Carolina for all of this and many white people came up to me and said, were in pain were in terrible pain. I was also i was at water park Public School buses, getting out of them were campers, totally integrated camps, totally integrated camp counselors taking care of these kids at a water park in South Carolina. Thats the real change. Could this be a moment of racial haeg healing . I think so. The victims show what true christian ethics and love is about. And im going to tell you, not all of can get there, not all of us are there. What a example they set. When we come back one artists remark in our sunday spotlight, an artist promoting peace and understanding by thinking inside the box. Transforming ordinary shipping containers into extraordinary instruments of global communication. Reporter in a square in the middle of washington d. C. There is box, whats in that box . The world, well not really. But yes, really n the way, because this guy im talking to. Hes in afghanistan, 7,000 miles from washington where there is another box just like mine and hes in it which puts us somewhere where it feels remarkably as if were in the same room talking which is what we did. I saw him. He saw me. Hes a college professor. I was there back in 1988. Now, these boxes actually goldpainted shipping containers are multiplying. All of this organized, designed really by an american artist who calls them portals. You dont know if youre going to go in there and talk to an 18yearold who just works down the block. Reporter that what happens. Original people gets to step inside the portal. And talk to a stranger from far away. Youre in washington d. C. Right now . We have people come in and havent talked to the opposite gender. They do here. Reporter every one we talked to who did this this trio of friends also talking to iran and Angelina Feldman made a friend. We had a lot of common. Reporter they found the experience meaningful or moving or both. Talking to him was talking to my cousin. Reporter people have danced together. And sung together. Politics tends not to come up not surprising given some of the oppressive regimes. What comes up a lot is marriage and dating. Americas dating life is a real fascination. The connection with plans to get the portal to new ha venn. Theyre taking 20 minutes in a space to do nothing but admire appreciate dislike another human being. As of a piece of art. Reporter in this space it was a pleasure. Reporter this is no place. How do we shake hands here . So its any place. Take care. Bye. Reporter and many every place, for this week, john donvan abc news washington. It all comes down to baiting. Thats all for us today. Check out world news tonight. And ill see you tomorrow on g gma. Im monica malpass. On inside story, how far has america really come on the topic of racism, and what will it take to improve even more . Lets get the inside story. Good morning, and welcome to inside story. Im monica malpass. Lets meet our insiders today. They are jan ting, law professor. Welcome back to you. Nia meeks, communications executive. Good morning, nia. Ed turzanski, foreignpolicy analyst, and ajay raju attorney. Welcome to all of you. Lets talk about race in america, because after what happened in charleston South Carolina nine People Killed by a white supremacist who was well known for his hatred of people of color some changes are occurring. Well talk about the Confederate Flag issue in a moment and how this may have sadly been the impetus to change that part of the southern culture. But, really, how far have we come in america . Are we just dusting the surface here of racism and putting on a