Trumps onetime rival, senator rand paul. And, the top democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, adam schiff. Plus, former Campaign Managers robby mook and Corey Lewandowski go head to head. From abc news, its this week. Here now, chief White House Correspondent jonathan karl. Good morning. 31 days in. Liberals are freaking out. Trump diehards fired up. The one thing all of america can agree on. We have never seen anything like it. Were used to watching new president s take office with choreographed policy plans. Rolled out with careful words. This, a machine gun blast of big promises. The rhetoric loud, aggressive. Chaotic. The question is this a finetuned machine delivering promise after promise at a record pace . Or, an administration careening out of control . And if it is, how bad will the crash be . Were getting to all of that this hour. For the first time together since the election, trumps fiery defender and former Campaign ManagerCorey Lewandowski, and Hillary Clintons battlescarred general, robby mook head to head. And in a moment, trumps former primary rival, senator rand paul. A year ago, he called candidate trump a disaster. What does he think of President Trump now . And, we had hoped to have vice admiral bob harward who turned down the National Security job just this week. Harward had committed to appearing on this program. Just an hour ago, he told us he was unable to join. We hope to have him in the near future. But, we begin with a reality check. And trump in his element. This is the state where we all had great victory together. Reporter a classic, highenergy show. We will make America Great again. Reporter crowds, an instant antidote to the poisonous atmosphere back in washington. And they love him now more than ever. A star is born. A star is born. Reporter it was as if he never had to fire flynn or got smacked by the courts or lost a cabinet nominee. Ran into waves of opposition in the streets and the deluge of damaging leaks. Trumps search for his old winning ways started with the thursday throwback. Im not ranting and raving. I love this, im having a good time doing it. Reporter the most remarkable moment . Of that extraordinary event . A complete rejection of any suggestion that anything was going wrong. I turn on the tv, open the newspapers, i see stories of this administration is running like a finetuned machine. Reporter reality check. Trump is making progress in some of his key promises. Tougher immigration. Reworking his travel ban. Cutting regulations. Picking a conservative Supreme Court nominee. But on many of the big ticket items, hes treading water. The wall. Tax cuts. Obamacare. The infrastructure plan. All still up in the air. And the main source of all of the chaos talk, the turmoil over National Security. Mike flynn is a fine person. And, i asked for his resignation. He respectfully gave it. Reporter in munich, germany, at the interNational Security conference, Vice President pence tried to reassure nato allies. But pences efforts to calm european anxieties were overshadowed by the star of the chaos theory camp, senator john mccain. In a headlinegrabbing speech, mccain asked a loaded question. Can the west survive . He didnt mention trump. But he didnt have to. In recent years, this question would invite accusations of hyperbole and alarmism, not this year. If ever there was a time to treat this question with a deadly seriousness, its now. Lets bring in republican senator rand paul of kentucky. Senator paul, thank you for joining us. I want to start with what the president said. Finetuned machine. Over this first month. Is that what youre seeing . Well, you know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And, from where i sit, we have done a lot of good things. You know, we repealed regulations for the first time in 20 years. Using the congressional review act. Three regulations that were going to cost the economy hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs. That is big progress. Were on schedule to repeal obamacare, big progress. His cabinet picks, from a conservative point of view, have exceeded by expectations. I think scott pruitt will be great at epa. I think well do conservative things. Supreme court justice, somebody i could have picked. So im actually very, very pleased with where we are. Some of the chaos theory stems from the president s words. What he said. I want to play something he said last night at his rally. You look at what is happening last night in sweden. Sweden. Who would believe this . Sweden. They took in large numbers, theyre having problems like they never thought possible. Now that was in a riff where he was talking about terror attacks. So we scrubbed the the records, scrubbed news reports out of sweden. Do you have any idea what he was talking about . Well, i think there have been some altercations. There was a new years eve altercation, i think, a year ago where there was quite a few things that were happening that did involve the refugee populations. I believe that was in sweden. I think anybody that thinks it has been seamless and no bumps in the road in germany with allowing a Million People to come in, i think there have been problems. I think there are legitimate concerns that get sloughed over here. For example, world war i, world war ii, immigration came to a grinding halt in our country during these wars. If someone wants to come from aleppo tomorrow, how do you know who they are . There is almost nothing left in aleppo. I dont know that there is paperwork. I dont know that you can ask people in syria, where there is a dysfunctional government, to give you legitimate paperwork on people. So i think its very, very difficult to vet people from there, yemen, sudan. All the places engaged in war. Those are legitimate concerns. But senator, im asking you about what the president said at his rally. He said, what is happening last night in sweden. We heard from the former Prime Minister of sweden who tweeted, after that. Sweden . Terror attack . What has he been smoking . Questions abound. Isnt there a point of credibility . I mean, we heard the president in the press conference say he had the biggest electoral win since reagan. Its not even close. Isnt there a credibility question . You know, i think there are there are other people that have looked at this and they say there are two levels you can analyze this administration on. One, words and twitter. Another on actions. And i tepid to tend to look at the actions. And like i say, i have my quibbles here and there with things that are said. And yet, im really pleased that we repealed a regulation that was going to be very, very damaging to my state. The regulation, i went to the white house this week to see him sign, the repeal would have cost 77,000 jobs in the coal industry. So im very, very happy. That would have never happened probably under half a dozen other republican nominees. So, i mean, not everyone is perfect. But i think theres a lot of good things. We shouldnt lose sight of the good things from the conservative point of view of what is happening in washington. No doubt. I want to play something you said a year ago january. Now, obviously, at this point, you were running against donald trump. So you were in a different position. I want to play something you said on the nightly show with larry whitmore. What worries me most other than the crazy things is that i believe he wants power and i believe from my point of view that power corrupts. And that the whole purpose of our Founding Fathers and the country was to contain power. So when you listen to the press conference on thursday, and when you hear his attacks on the judiciary. And you hear his attacks on the press, do you still have any of those concerns . You know, i have a great deal of concern for any president and the amount of power they accumulate versus congress. Im a stickler about the idea of separation of powers. When you go back to james madison, he said we would pit ambition against ambition to try to check and keep things in balance, i think thats incredibly important. I think all president s have tried to gain too much power. This is more about the words and the personality of President Trump. I was very, very concerned about president obama and how much executive order and power he tried to exert. I think i want to be, and i think congress will be a check on any executive, republican or democrat, that tries to grasp too much power. And really, a lot of the fault is not only president s trying to take too much power. Its Congress Giving up too much power. We write only skeletons of bills, sort of outlines of bills. Even obamacare was just sort of an outline. 2700page outline. We sent it up there. The rest of it is written by bureaucrats. A permanent bureaucratic state. Yes, there always has to be a pushback. And i think there needs to be a great deal more pushback from congress on any president. Not just this president. Probably 100 years worth of president s have been usurping too much power. I think youre second to none in the senate when fighting for civil liberties. Let me ask you about what hes saying about the press. Hes saying now that the news media is the enemy of the American People. Do you agree with that . Its not something that i would say. I would say that there is bias. I think its fair to point out that there is bias in the media. On both sides. Both right and left. And that its very hard to find objective news because we have gotten, particularly as you watch cable news, its so dominated by opinion. And we are more polarized. Some comes from the people and some from the media. But i would say that i dont see in his criticism, somehow, people think the separation of powers means that the president cant criticize the judiciary. It has nothing to do with that. Thats more of sort of political sensibilities. It has nothing to do with the constitution or separation of powers. We dont like it when it sort of treads on things. The separation of powers is about legislative powers. Not discussion or words. I would separate, once again, words from legislative action. If someone tries to put limits on the press, ill be the first one standing up for the right of press left and right to continue saying and being part of the discussion and forwarding the discussion. What would you make of mccains statement that were creeping towards a situation where people are potentially supportive of dictatorship in this country . Is that over the top . Or is there a concern . I think senator mccains perspective is colored by his disagreements with President Trump on Foreign Policy. If i were to look at Foreign Policy, i would say john mccains been wrong on just about everything over the last four decades. He advocated for the iraq war, which i think destabilized the middle east. If you look at the map, theres probably six countries where john mccain has advocated for having u. S. Boots on the ground. His complaint is either were not at war somewhere, or if were at war, we leave too soon. Were not there soon enough, he wants us to stay forever. Wherever we send troops. So thats a Foreign Policy that is at odds with President Trump. And also the idea of engagement. The idea of Foreign Policy realism, i think, fits more neatly with President Trump. With john mccain, the neoconservative label of lets make the world safe for democracy and were going to topple every regime hasnt worked. Our intervention to destabilize the assad regime has made the chaos worse in syria. And if you were to get rid of assad today, i would actually worry about the 2 million christians protected by assad. I think its more Foreign Policy debate. Trump and mccain are on opposite sides. I tend to sympathize more with the president. We need to change. We dont need to continue to have regime change throughout the world. Nationbuilding. Its expensive. We dont have enough money to rebuild our own country if were rebuilding everyone elses. He said dictators get started by limiting freedom of the press. I imagine you agree with that. Well, the thing is i dont agree with his analysis and applying that to the president. I havent seen any legislation coming forward that wants to limit the press. I see President Trump expressing his opinion rather forceful in his own distinct way. But i see no evidence that anybody is putting forward any kind of legislation to limit the press. I think people, you know, this is colored by john mccains disagreement with President Trump. It all is. Everything he says about the president is colored by his own personal dispute hes got running with President Trump. And it should be taken with a grain of salt. John mccain has advocated for war everywhere. He would bankrupt the nation. And actually, were very lucky john mccain is not in charge. I think we would be in perpetual war. He certainly did talk about changing the liabbel laws durin the campaign. I want to turn to the firing of michael flynn. One of the candidates that the white house is now talking about as a possible replacement is john bolton. Now, you adamantly opposed him when he was up for confirmation for another position. Would you have concerns about john bolton as National Security adviser . Yeah, i think the problem with john bolton is he disagrees with President Trumps Foreign Policy. He would be closer to john mccains Foreign Policy. John bolton Still Believes the iraq war was a good idea. He Still Believes that regime change is a good idea. He believes that nationbuilding is a good idea. I think john bolton would be much closer to mccain than trump. And i think that his history of sort of acting on his own, my fear is that secret wars would be developing around the globe. So no, i think he would be a bad choice. Lets turn to obamacare. You tweeted in january that the president quote fully supports my plan to replace obamacare the same day we repeal it. We have heard some mixed signals out of the white house. Are you still confident that thats the case, that he still fully supports your plan . Yes, i have discussed this with the Vice President. Congressman price. Now secretary price. I think we need to do repeal and replace on the same day. I think we need to do complete repeal. Many people are talking about a partial repeal. If you only repeal part of it and you leave in some sort of obamacare light, my fear is the situation gets worse. Right now, in the insurance markets, we have sort of a disaster unfolding. A downward spiral. Adverse selection ps. Premiums in the individual market going through the roof. People cant afford insurance. Insurance companies are losing hundreds of millions of dollars. If you repeal part of obamacare, if you get rid of the individual mandate, but you keep some of the ideas, people can still buy insurance after theyre sick. The situation gets extraordinarily worse. What were seeing now could be tenfold greater if you only repeal part of obamacare. About a year ago, we voted to repeal the whole thing. My advocacy and most of the conservatives im talking to in the house say we have to at least do what we did in 2015. Were not into like replacing it with some federal programs. We want to repeal the whole thing and have a replacement that helps to lower insurance costs for everybody. Are you convinced that the white house would be on board with that . The president said it would be a plan in march but hes also talked about maybe this would take more than a year to unfold. Well, the thing is, is, yes, all of it takes awhile to unfold. Legislatively, well repeal obamacare within the next one or two months, i think. Im pretty sure of that. Theres a debate to repeal the whole thing or whether or not some of the Big Government republicans want to keep obamacare light. The conservatives, were ready for a fight. The House Freedom caucus said theyll not vote for partial repeal. Im in the same camp. Im not voting for partial repeal. It has to be the same thing or better than what we voted on in 2015. And so there is going to be a discussion over how much we repeal. I do believe its repealed in the next one to two months. The replacement part requires the democrats to help. I dont see help coming from democrats. We should offer the American Public less expensive insurance. And that does require a replacement bill. Were almost out of time. I want to ask you about Something Else the president said last night. About his plan for infrastructure. An infrastructure bill. Listen to this. We need members of both parties to join hands and work with us to pass a 1 trillion infrastructure plan to build new roads and bridges and airports and tunnels and highways. And railways. All across our great nation. Now i know you have a plan that would bring back through repatriation from money thats held overseas, that would fund road repair. What is your take on a 1 trillion infrastructure plan . Would you stand up and stop that . I think we have to debate the amount. But im for rebuilding our infrastructure. And i have a bill that would encourage the american profit overseas to come home. Theres about 2 trillion overseas. I have a bipartisan bill i would try to present to the president that i think will held inspect this method. We have to pay for it. Im not for borrowing the money. Im open to listening to what he has planned. Im wanting to offer ideas i have for taking the repatriation money and putting it