Transcripts For WPVI Mayoral Debate 20150505 : comparemela.c

Transcripts For WPVI Mayoral Debate 20150505

Kenny, and doug oliver, milton street and, Anthony Hardy williams. Our panel for todays debate are uni vision 65 anchor and senior producer ilya gar see a inquirer reporter chris hepp and now your moderator action news anchor jim gardner. Hello, thank you for joining us for this debate among the six Democratic Candidates running for mayor of philadelphia. A quick note about our format tonight, each candidate will have 45 seconds to answer the question posed to them by myself and our two pap he panel list. If we feel a issue bears furnished der discussion we can continue, and each candidate will have an equal chance to weigh in. The candidates will also answer some questions sent to us, by way of six abc. Com and facebook, and twitter. At the end of the debate, each candidates will have one minute to make a closing statement, so lets begin. Folks, im sure it is fair to say that every mayor in america has been laser focused on the situation in baltimore. I think, voters of philadelphia would be eager to hear how you would respond to the following unhappy scenario. As mayor your chief of have staff burstness to your office and informs you that an africanamerican teenager has been shot and killed by a Philadelphia Police officer and initial reports are that the teenager was unarmed. I want to know what you would do the first three things, that you would do and would have to to after getting that information. By random drawing we will begin with nelson diaz . Speaking spanish. I want to thank you for that question. It is very important for us that we realize that philadelphia is just one incident away from a similar situation. What we have to do is what we have not provide. We have not provided jobs. We have not provided education. We have not provided Police Community policing, which is tan amount to being able to provide an opportunity for police, and the community to know each other. This has been a terrible activity. Since 1981 i have been working the in the area of making sure that there is desegregation in the Police Department. I served on three other commissions. All my life i have work for civil rights. Mr. Diaz, mr. Diaz, what are the first three things that you would do after being told about that scenario. First thing would i do actually is make sure that we have all of the information necessary, so that we can tell the parent what they didnt do in baltimore. We have a video. We should show the video to the parent. We should have police reform. They have to form a relationship with the police. If there is no Police Relationship there is no way that there is a combination. This strikes from the background of big opportunities of lack of police reform. The daily news just said yesterday. Sir, i have to interrupt thank you. President williams. What are first three things you would do after getting information like that. Get the facts as we understand them. Then go to the scene where family is. Report out facts to the family. Provide information to the entire community about the set of circumstances that are evolving as we understand them. Mr. Oliver, three things that you would do. First thing would i do is get in touch with the Police Commissioner, and the head of the fop. I would want to find out exactly what happened to get as much information as possible, before reaching out to the family, and let them know that someone is watching. Someone is understanding what is going on. We will get back in touch with them. The third thing would i do is reach out to faith leaders in the community, Community Leaders, to make them aware of a situation happening and let them know when we will be in touch with facts as we know them. Mr. Street . First thing would i do is go out in the community myself, as mayor and talk to the Community People. Then i would have my Police Commissioner along with me. We would talk with the the Community People and the Police Officer. If the facts presented themselves that it looked like it was an unprovoke shooting would i take the Police Officer into custody and continue to communicate with the Community People. Miss abraham. Well, if i have done my job right this would have been prevented in the first place. It should not happen. I would immediately sum on my Police Commissioner, city council leader, clergy, faith based across the city and speak to the Community Leaders on the ground to see what is happening. Then i would go on television and speak to the community and ask the community for calm. I would then, involve the District Attorney and the federal authorities to make sure that this investigation is launched immediately then would i speak to the family and assure them that i was there for them and we will get to the bottom of this quickly andcorrectly. Mr. Kenny . Would i get a full briefing making sure we have all of the information possible. Would i also reach out to faith based leaders and Community Leaders. We would then share whatever information we had with the family, what that is Police Reports or whether that is video. We in must make sure that families are feeling involved and make sure there is no misunderstanding of any type of hiding of any information. Then we would move forward with the Community Together hopefully, the young man, would have have survived. We would make sure that the family has everything that they need. We would move forward in a positive direction, open and transparently. Thank you. Our next question comes from ilya garcia of uni vision 65 and it goes to anthony williams. Yes mr. Williams, do you believe that there is racial profiling in philadelphia that is happening and if so what is your plans to combat this practice . It clearly is occurring in philadelphia. Stop and frisk is evident of that. 95 percent of those who are stopped and frisked are people of color and most of them clearly 95 percent have been involved. Clearly profiling has been establish. Department of justice has provided understanding of how it is occurring and i in turn will provide a 91point plan offered by the the president of the you had that would change and remove stop and frisk. I would go further. That means hate speech from Police Officers. Those Police Officers would be fired from the department as we understand it. The person who is the person that used stop and frisk the mess the the current commissioner. We have to change the commissioner in philadelphia. Mr. Oliver . Yes, i do believe racial profiling occurs in the city of philadelphia. I think that we, as a city, need to recognize it so we can fix it. Stop and frisk is one iteration of that type of profiling but beyond just talking about stop and frisk we have to talk about the attitude that under lies stop and frisk. We can do away with the nomenclature and still have it impacting communities across the city. We know it impacts africanamerican and latin o community far more than anyone else. For that reason we would want to spend more time working with our Police Department, understanding the communities they are serving Community Policing, community relationships, creating those relationships even as early as Elementary School between young kid and Police Officers, things like Police Athletic leagues and others are how we solve that problem. Thanks mr. Oliver. Mr. Street . Im so glad entered this race. Prior to me none of these candidates talk about stop and frisk. None of them were talking about Community Policing. I put together a fourpoint, a plan, to stop the violence. I have had that plan out there. If i was not in this race, there wouldnt be discussed. Is there Community Profiling . I think it is a little will bit. I miss read that. I think it is a little bit. I dont think it is overwhelming. Ill talk about that a little bit later on. But, it can be stopped easily. Miss abraham . I think the first one to solute fine men and women of the Police Department who do their job appropriately. But it is clear from the evidence that read across the the country that racial profiling is a reality. So obviously i support implementation of the 91 points on the president ial commission, which our chief ramsey has participated in. Second of all i would look at recruiting and training of Police Officers and make sure they are sensitized to what need to be done on the street, in the street. Third of all, we want to make sure our community and police Work Together harmoniously which is the case in many instances in philadelphia. We want to make sure stop and frisk as we know it in philadelphia is put to the end. That would be a tremendous advance in the perception and reality of racial profiling. Mr. Kenny . Yes there is racial profiling in the city. That is why i sponsor legislation to decriminal ice the possession of small amounts of marijuana. 4200 young people a year were being arrested in our city, because of stop and frisk and 83 percent were africanamerican or people of color. We were putting young people in the criminal Justice System for an activity requiring them to be handcuffed, transported fingerprinted, photographed and given a criminal record. It also was terrible relationships between police and our communities when these young people are stopped at random and arrested for a small violation which is now a fine in philadelphia and not an arrest. Mr. Diaz. There are 200,000 arrests in stop and frisks and out of that only 47 were justified 47 percent are justified. They only found one in 400 guns in the entire process. The problem is that policing hasnt change. You have to change it back to Community Policing. The problem that we have is that daily news said yesterday that jim kenny and lynn abraham have been on the wrong side of reaching the police. By the way, forgive me chris is mr. Williams the only candidate here who would want to replace commissioner ramsey. Absolutely not. Nobody wants to replace him until i said that he had to go. I mean that is a fact. Mr. Williams said he was going to keep him. Mr. Williams said in a meeting last week that senator street was right. He was wrong. Do you want to respond to that. I absolutely want to respond. It wasnt milton street that decide that had, countless numbers of mothers and young men across philadelphia said we appreciate your perspective of stop and frisk which i start well before this campaign. It was said to me if you dont replace the person who is greatest dependent and executor of stop and frisk it does not mean. Word are hallow. Axis most important issue in this particular space and time. Mr. Oliver, ill followup. Would you keep the commissioner, and if so, why so. If not why not. I think the Police Commissioner is one of the most important hires that a mayor will to have make. But it is one of many. I think it is inappropriate to have a personnel conversation on six abc before anybody is in office, but i can tell you that i think the leadership necessary to lead our Police Department is here in philadelphia. Whether that is Police Commissioner ramsey or anybody else, it is a conversation that we will have as time moves forward. Most importantly though, it is that they have the mind set that we need to continue Community Policing, that we have a another just situation that we need to repair. Even just yesterday conversation with fourth and fifth graders shows that the seeds of bad relationship between the Police Department and communities are already in young kid. We have a lot of work to do and long way to go and i will need my Police Commissioner to understand that. It seems like we have an opportunity for rest of you to talk about keeping commissioner ramsey, or easing the tension between the Minority Community and the Philadelphia Police department. How would you go about doing that . If you in fact think it exists it is easy. Way i would go number one commissioner ramsey is out of here. Number two, we will hire somebody from within the Police Department that has compassion, who was born and raised in philadelphia. Number three, you have a police and Community Review board in each district. You have to reestablish the trust between the community and the the police. Let me just say this in my last 15 seconds you cant believe a word senator williams says. He is controlled by the millionaires out there at 555 they have brought him, they have purchased him and they are spending millions of dollars trying to get the the voters to deliver him. You dont need to listen to him. Those people will call the shots. Miss and ham. I have work with commissioner ramsey at least two years bring left the commissioner office. He is a fair minded Police Commissioner. It was he who called in report of excessive use of force and asked just advertise department to do the evaluation of how the Police Department handled force. I like him. I would keep him. Question is would he stay, he and i discussed this as mayor and i asked him to say and he decline, would i consult him as to who in the department he thought, would be worthy. I know all of the top commanders in the police kept. I necessity them well. I have worked with them for over 20 years. Many fine examples. Would i cast a wide net making sure that the person who will lead the the Police Department would have the the same mine set, about police reform, recruiting and Training Police making sure our Community Need are met. Thank you. Mr. Kenny. Apparently the president of the you had has a a lot of faith in chief ramsey because he had has tapped him to run that large group to review Police Nothing america. He is a decent man. He had has done his best in this job. One thing about him that he didnt like marijuana decriminalization either and said he would not enforce it. When we passed the bill he called me personally on the phone and you of the civilian government, we are Police Department, we will enforce the law as you have passed it. If he stays or if he goes, the new commissioner of my administration would be within the the Police Department currently. Mr. Diaz . I agree with jim kenny that there is a need to make sure that we respect a man who is the president has asked to have his opinion stated. I would speak to him. But i want to make sure that he understands that there is a need for Community Policing which is that the community should know police and police should know the community. It is really important because most kid you only thing that you see is violent behavior, when a child sees a person being arrested or put in a pad i wagon. They dont see the beat cop. They dont see relationship. They dont play with them. They have no power sense around them. You need that kind of rich relationship in order to make sure that the powe lease and the the citizens have a good relationship. Thank you mr. Diaz. Mr. Williams . I think that i have led in this area clearly led conversation obviously. First by rolling out the plan. Then by talking to the community. Talking about hate speech, removing hate speech which the head of the fop has said a decent amount of Police Officers in philadelphia would be fired if the zero tolerance standard was applied. I think that should send chills up the spines of parents, mothers and fathers and people on this stage should understand that there is no pandering this moment. It is about action. So for me, the Police Commissioner is a fine man. But people, need to be replaced when they stand for a policy that people in the community simply dont trust. Those three things, the plan authored by president of the you had, zero hate speech and replacing the Police Commissioner are all part of me. We have been over the last number of days soliciting questions, from some of our viewers, on facebook, and on six abc. Com and on twitter and we have a question from lauren, and it is very direct, very simple, and very important. How would you resolve the School Funding crisis in philadelphia, and we begin with milton street. You have to resolve that two types of taxes there is inn tax and there is indirect tax and a direct tax. We have to have a direct, indirect tax, 75,000 students in the Philadelphia School district is black, 25,000 is hispanic 19,000 are caucasian. We have a my north School District. It will be very, very difficult to get middle class and lower middle class to use their tax dollars for it in a minority School Distr

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