Week long, and we have a multitude of feelings since its a complex question. But i think the first thing we really have to say, any of us, is to the loved ones here in the area and in florida who suffered and lost their loved ones, we have to say to them, you didnt die in vain. What happened in orlando has created a sea change, not only across the United States, but across the world. Think about what happened. There have been candlelight vigils in almost every major city in the United States. In sydney, australia, they lit the sydney bridge in rainbow. The eiffel tower was lit up in rainbow. There were literally almost 100,000 people out in london. Tel aviv city hall was done. The ben franklin bridge in our area. Ben franklin bridge. And what you see from that is a movement. No longer are allies being quiet. Theyre now coming out and supporting in full strength. So, these people didnt die in vain because what youre going to see is already happening. Youre gonna see nondiscrimination laws being passed in state after state after state. Youre going to see hatecrimes bills finally, after being tied up for years, and the biggest proof of this whole thing is that speaker ryan in washington now is trying to decide how does he pass the equal rights legislation called enda, which was literally introduced by a woman by the name of bella abzug in 1974 and has sit in congress for that entire time. The meantime, the shooter also reportedly said isis a number of times in conversations and during the attack, so there might have been multiple reasons, including possible insanity on this persons part, for the attack. We dont know all the reasons yet as they investigate. But nonetheless, now there are new pushes, including four bills that will be voted on this week in Senate Committees for gun control. It always happens when theres a mass attack, and some people say nothing gets done, but this time something might get done, dom. Well, what id like to see done is, i want to know why, when, apparently, monica, several news outlets are reporting that this guy was called out by one gun shop owner. They called the fbi, and he had been on the list before. I want to see the minutia of this. Why was this guy able to buy a weapon and he was rejected from body armor and all the rest . Why, when he was already in that . The fbi doesnt have enough agents is one part of this to me. Thats the takeaway from this. And i also hope that we see that groups like isis and others, what theyre doing on a regular basis to people that are gay explicitly, in addition to everybody else. And some people are saying he was taken off the list because he got married and had a baby. And, jim, people i guess in the know felt that sort of, you know, neutralized him and quieted him down a bit, which clearly it didnt. You know, to be fair, the fbi is just inundated with these sorts of things, and i think they do, by and large, a very good job of monitoring them. But this seems to, at least to me in the evidence ive seen, to be kind of a lonewolf thing. His identification with isis, he identified with a number of other terrorist groups that dont even agree with isis. I think hillarys proposed, in addition to guncontrol measures, a sharper focus on these lone wolves. We just saw one in britain on thursday a member of parliament killed in cold blood by a lone wolf. Some evidence that the San Bernardino people were lone wolves. These are very difficult to detect, but i think the idea the bureau and Law Enforcement needs to communicate better and be more focused on these lonewolf killers i think is a good idea. Meantime, some of these proposed bills, george, or variations of a theme, i guess. Democrats have one version or a couple versions, the republicans others. Theres the issue of Civil Liberties and should people be allowed to buy a gun when it is the Second Amendment versus if theyre on the watch list and there are hundreds of thousands of people, by the way, on that list. Its not a short list. Very long. Many people dont even know theyre on it. A member of congress was on it. So, would they have the right to buy a gun until, you know, the folks in washington prove they should be on that list . Should there be a 72hour waiting period . You know, its too complicated for me to really think my way through it. I think clearly we need gun control. But we need, whether its more fbi agents, more resources. The fact is and im for passing all that legislation but africanamerican community, other minority communities have passed a lot of legislation. It has not changed the reality. We have to, in america, try to figure out what it means both to be free and have equality. We figured out the freedom part. We havent necessarily figured out the equality part, and thats the part were doing now. And were looking at and we get really focused on these terroristtype activities and we kind of overlook that. You know, what is it . 20 kids got killed in newtown. You know, eight people got killed in a black church in South Carolina and sandy hook. This whole thing, theres a mentalhealth issue. There are a whole series of issues that contribute to this, and we want to jump on this guy that says, im related to two terrorist organizations that hate each other. And i also think that and i understand the responsibility of the news media, but i think some of these folks do this stuff for attention. And now this person that nobody knows anything about and really doesnt want to know anything about and is not gonna think much about two and three weeks from now. His own father is using it for publicity. Right, i mean, its just they get all the publicity that theyre looking for as a result of this one if they cant be famous, theyll be infamous. I guess they settle for that. Which president ial candidate do you think is more favorable or at least more sympathetic to the Lgbt Community and their needs, and what do you see Going Forward . The rhetoric has been changing in the last week for both of them, as well. Well, i think the comparison is just outrageous and so wide. When donald trump responded to orlando, he put out a sevenparagraph statement. In those seven paragraphs, not one word not one word about the Lgbt Community, gay and lesbian. Nowhere was he sympathizing with the community that was most affected. He then started using what happened in orlando to bash the muslim community. How dare he use our community, which has suffered discrimination and hate crimes for millennia, to bash another community . It was not any one community. The muslim community, if it was the muslim community, it would not building a wall would not have stopped what happened in orlando. Building a wall would not have stopped what happened in San Bernardino. Building a wall would not change what happened at that church. Building a wall would change absolutely nothing. Because there are american born citizens who are perpetrating the crimes. And his use of stepping over the dead bodies, warm, dead bodies in orlando is absolutely heinous. And do you feel the president has done enough on the guncontrol issue, the terrorism issue, now that people are saying homegrown terrorists are as big of a threat as anything else . No, i think its a failure on the part of the president. The guncontrol issue hes animated by and hes tried to do various things in that, but on the other issues, no. Monica, hes not. We are not calling out what i see as the threat here. I see these guys inspired. Isis is the threat. All these other terrorist groups pale in comparison. Theyre the rock stars because theyve established territory and theyve told these people, do whatever you can. Just pick up whatever you can and go and kill somebody. Do it in your own way. And if you mix in hatred that this guy had toward gay people, well, that animates them even more. Or latinos. Everyone was saying it was latino night. If you look at the names of who died yes, many latinos. Most of them were latinos. Was he antilatino . Was he antigay latino . We dont know. Well, these people are insane, too. Yeah. On top of that. We realize that. Thats why its so hard. But to be fair to the president , dom, after newtown, he did propose legislation. He got some bipartisan support. Senator toomeys talked a lot about the support that he had for that bill, although Katie Mcginty says he really didnt do much to try and help pass it. And, of course, it didnt pass. So, i think its pretty hard to say the president hasnt done enough. I mean, he did what he could do. No, on guns, yes. Im talking about on terrorism. But isis were not even calling people. Isis is the next iteration of a whole series of terrorist organizations that weve been fighting not just in the obama administration, but in the Bush Administration and before that, which people are fighting around the world. If people are gonna act independently, i dont care what you do. Its like assassinating a president. You could put all the security around the president you want. If one Single Person wants to assassinate that president , theyre gonna figure out a way to do it. So youre not gonna stop this stuff, but everybody is criticizing the president , and im not here to defend the president , but i havent heard much coming from the United States congress about what we should do about this. Its that we shouldnt have gun control. We have to protect the Second Amendment. I dont see people around the world complaining that the United States has not engaged in the effort to overcome isis. Whats the solution . Are we just gonna go somewhere over there in the middle east and bomb people and then get criticized for killing a lot of innocent people in the course of doing it . Its not as simple as anybody wants to do, and whether you call them radical islamists or not, doesnt really make it that much i think you got to identify david gergen even said this week when Ronald Reagan said the evil empire, that has meaning. We have to know who were fighting. Nothing has meaning unless you follow it up. You can call it what you want. Tell me one person that has not been killed because of those two words. Its not a question of that. Its a question of why would we stem from that . Arent we trying to segregate the muslims that are not engaged in this from the small number that are, and were saying radical islamists. Is any american as confused about who were fighting . I think its pretty clear. How do you define them . Whos a radical islamist . This guy was. No, we dont know that. We dont know that. No, we do not. He also was rejected for a job at a police department. He was a security guard, so there are a number of issues here, and there might even be some possibilities that he may have had gay intimations and that kind of thing because he was on several websites with hookups. Selfhatred is a very big motivation. If you go to a mosque or a synagogue or a church and all your life youre hearing, oh, youre bad, youre bad, youre bad, youre bad, and then you force yourself into getting married, who knows when you might snap . Meantime, on the ground, a local journalist was able to buy an assault weapon in seven minutes. So its not hard to do on the streets of philadelphia or the streets of anywhere in the United States, as well as in other places around the world. That is the reality, meantime, as we all try to wrestle with whats the right answer, how do we stop this from happening again and again and again, and people who are trying to become infamous if they cant be famous in any other way. Do you see a real ability in the next few months before the president ial race really kicks into high gear after the summer to get anything done . Yeah, i think the filibuster this week by the democrats in the senate, and the fact that there are moderate republicans both in pennsylvania and illinois and other states that are up for reelection in november, i think there is a chance that at least this ban on people on the watch list, that they will not be able to get at least semiautomatic weapons. I think there is a political will to get that done both because of the democratic filibuster and because a lot of these republican moderates are running from donald trump and theyre concerned about their reelection efforts. Even though contributions from members of congress from pennsylvania are the highest in the nra of anybody in the United States. You know, if you look at pennsylvania, for instance, bob casey, for a long time, was very over on the gun issue, much more with the nra for a democrat. And he has really evolved on that issue, and i think thats very symbolic of the state itself. All right. But what you see is the nras focus is much more on their members than it is on elected they spend a lot more money sending out mail, and so they have the koch brother model. They send it out to the people and rally under the elected officials, these voters who kind of say, dont do this. Right. The reason were gonna have some form of Gun Legislation not sure how strong its gonna be, not how weak its gonna be, is because if congress does not pass some form of Gun Legislation, that shows the failure of the republican party. All right, were gonna leave it there. Inside story continues right after we take a break. Dont go away. Much more ahead. Selfies are cool. Know what else is cool . Blinds to gos summer shades sa, going on now. Take 20 off all shades roller, cellular, pleated, woven wood, roman, solar and cascade shades dont blink. Sale ends soon. Blinds to go. Blinds for life. Inside story is presented by temple university. Remarkable change isnt easy, but for those who take charge, it comes naturally. Explore temples impact. Visit temple. Edu impact. Welcome back to inside story. Philadelphia last week became the first major city in the United States to pass a soda tax, 134. It was a huge win for the new mayor jim kenney, and now comes the legal challenge, because the soda industry put up 3 million in advertisements on our television station and others trying to win that vote, when they didnt win it. And by the way, they had a history of winning 451 everywhere except in berkeley, california, so this was their second big setback. Now the thought is theyre gonna put up that much effort in court. And what do you expect to happen next . Well, i think theres no question that theres gonna be a court case with respect to it. Their argument is that its a sales tax and the uniformity clause and all that stuff, and that will play itself out. My biggest concern is that weve now passed the soda tax, what does it mean . How are you gonna implement, you know, Early Childhood education so that it really does make a difference . And what else are you going to do . The mayor said this is a part of the effort to address poverty in the city of philadelphia, and i think its a critical component, but that outcome is 20 years down the road. What else are you gonna do today that improves the quality of life and the home life for these kids . Unless you can improve the quality of life in the communities that they live in, Early Childhood educations gonna help some of them, but its not gonna solve the problem. In fact, lets listen to what the mayor had to say after the win last week. Council president clarke. Ayes are 13, the nays are 4. The majority [ cheers and applause ] this is just the beginning of the process. It was certainly a long road to get here, but this is the beginning of the process of changing the narrative of poverty in our city. So, no doubt that it is one way to try to start improving the city and the life of many impoverished people in our neighborhoods, but you do have to start somewhere. So, nonetheless, was there some interesting backstory to this, the arm twisting, the promises, speculations, other investments . How did they get this vote passed, in other words, dom . Well, when you make sausage, its not a pretty thing or scrapple. Were in philadelphia. Right. So, yeah, i dont even know maybe some of the other insiders know some of the things that havent come out yet, but at the 11th hour, the 11 30 hour, monica, there were all these other monies and developments that are going around. So i still think its an open question how much of this goes to prek, what type of prek, who are the people, how much are they gonna be paid . And its kind of strange to me that the school district, as i understand it, will not be the prek provider around that, and i dont quite understand why. From a legal perspective i think is that its possible that the soda industry will move to enjoin and stop the implementation of the tax. Right. And that would be a straw move on their part. If a judge were to agree to that, that would stop for the time being whether the litigation went forward, the implementation of the tax. Now, rob dubow, finance director for the mayor, forthrightly testified before council that some of the money wasnt really gonna go to education. It was gonna go to plug the deficit. So, then you got the pica board having to look at the city budget without that money. It becomes a very complicated issue if they were to get that injunction. And some of its gonna go to fix our parks and some rec centers, so that would provide jobs, which is why the unions were backing the idea. And thats where the legislation got passed. I mean, you had a good, Strong City Council president in Darrell Clarke who literally made the deal with the mayor, and they are the two powers of the city. And what was decided upon in that meeting was, you know, Center City Philadelphia has, over the last few years, really grown, and philadelphia is a firstclass city with some of the best art outside of paris, one of the Biggest Communications hub. And what we needed now was to fix up our neighborhoods, particularly our poor neighborhoods. So an agreement was hashed out, so a good deal of that tax is gonna go to the impoverished neighborhoods of philadelphia. Its about time. Meantime, this is the same issue that got through all of the legislative ramifications in new york city but was derailed by the courts, so new york doesnt have a soda tax. What makes philadelphia think its gonna get its way through the courts . Well, i dont think that anybody knows. Theres a 54 majority i think on the Pennsylvania State supreme court, and i do think the issue has some ability to raise questions in folks minds of whether it is or whether it isnt, and i think youre just gonna get its one of those i dont think its clearclutch slam dunk issue for either side of the equation. Im a cynic on it, to georges point. You have five democrats on the court. Thats why they think itll get through. Or they think this is such a good this has been genius. And even though im on the opposite side of it of moving it around, its a health issue. No, its not a health issue. Were back to that. Mayor nutter tried it as a health issue and failed twice. Bernie sanders says its a regressive tax. Hillary clinton says its not. Bernie sanders says its regressive. The total issue is very different from new york because thats under new york law. This is pennsylvania institution, so its a totally separate legal issue thats been litigated elsewhere. We already tax in pennsylvania gas one product. We already tax in pennsylvania cigarettes on their own. We could do the same with soda. How many more things should we tax . But youre asking for legal precedents. Im giving you legal precedent. The question is do you need state authority . Does the local authority need state authority to do it . Right. All right, lets move on. The Democratic National convention coming to town in less than two months, and now the aclu is working with the city on some regards and worried about other areas where theyre afraid the 50,000 protestors who are expected to come to philadelphia to stage legal protests might not be met with welcome arms. And the mayor says there should be no problem there. He believes obviously people have a right to say what they want in a free country and they should have their way and their place, but maybe not during rush hour on broad street. So, will they be granted permits . Do you think that they will have free access . The 50,000 people sleeping in fdr park might not be what the city wants, but it might be the reality. Well, i think so. I mean, the city has had some good test runs the pope, the occupy thing, the way that was generally handled i think was handled fairly well. We had a convention in 2000. The protest movement i happened to be a delegate to the Democratic Commission that year, Republican Convention here. Protest movement was a lot bigger then, move against globalism. Remember the riots across the country in seattle . Commissioner timoney handled it pretty well. So i think the city has a good record, and my prediction is that we will handle it well. All right. Part of the question is i think theyll handle the permit part of it really well. We wont be able to figure out whether they handle the unpermitted part of it until it gets here and we see what it is. Well, with the Republican Convention in 2000, instead of city police being the enforcer, state police were brought in because there was a different set of laws. Controlled by the same rules. Yeah, im a member of the host committee, so i can tell you that every step is being taken to not only make sure that delegates have a great time here in philadelphia, the citizens in philadelphia have a great time, and were gonna make sure that even the protestors have a good time. Philadelphias gonna be a welcoming city. Were also gonna be a historic city again. Good to hear. All right, but also pennsylvania could be critical. Obviously the 20 electoral votes could be the Tipping Point on the democratic side, certainly for the entire race. So what do you think . Is this our moment in the sun to shine, dom . Well, i hope so. Id like to see it as im not a trump guy, but i do think that he brings such an unorthodox, unusual stuff, and im still convinced a lot of these people in desolate places in pennsylvania have heard his message about trade and all that and mrs. Clinton has a more nuanced message. I dont think it works with these people, though. I think theyre tired of business as usual, and trump is not offering solutions, per se, but hes telling them hes gonna do something, and so far, i think its worked for them. Jobs, jobs, jobs. I dont really think donald trump is telling people hes gonna do anything. I think donald trump is appealing to the worst in people. I mean, everything is negative. Everybodys got a nickname. You know, hes that classic candidate that, you know, heres the problem, heres the solution, when youre the candidate whos never been in office, your solutions always work. But hes not appealing to people as what they think. Hes appealing to what is worst in people, and it goes back to what i said earlier is that we figured out how to do freedom in america. We havent figured out how to do equality. If you look at what hillary well have to leave it at that. Im sorry. Were out of time. Inside story continues right after this. Stick around. Inside story is presented by temple university. Remarkable change isnt easy, but for those who take charge, it comes naturally. Explore temples impact. Visit temple. Edu impact. Time for inside stories of the week, and lets start with jim. Monica, flying under the radar screen in this political season is the race for Pennsylvania Attorney general. Of course, the cloud of Kathleen Kane sort of overcomes everything. But quietly under the radar, josh shapiro, the democratic candidate, is solidifying support across the state, raising money, and it looks like hes gonna get a significant amount of republican endorsements. Hmm. George . I want to recognize judy rodin, whos stepping down as c. E. O. Of the rockefeller foundation, where shes done a great job. First president of an Ivy League Institution at the university of pennsylvania, along with dr. Papadakis at drexel and Peter Liacouras at temple, the best examples of Transformative Leadership in philadelphia in my lifetime. Terrific. All right, dom. Progress is my theme this week. Southern baptists held their annual convention, and by over 90 they call the folks who go there messengers they put forward a resolution and passed it, asking fellow members, body of christ and language like that, not to display the confederate flag. Thats a deeply theyre all over the country, but thats a deeply southern institution. They were jim crowish over the years, and for the Southern Baptists to say that, its pretty good progress. All right. There you go. Mark. Monica, i thought id end on a happy note. Everybody wants to see the show hamilton in new york. Its the hottest show on broadway that theres been in 50 years. Well, a piece of that is coming to philadelphia july 4th, so thank mayor jim kenney and jeff garcino for putting together what will probably be the most red, white, and blue july 4th weve ever had. Terrific. All right, great. And, mark, thank you for being here. Thanks to all the rest of our insiders. We appreciate your time and your thoughts. Thank you so much for joining us. I hope you have a terrific week ahead, and well see you right back here next sunday morning. Im nydia han along with gray hall. Coming up next, dive teams are in the river looking for the driver of a minivan that plunged into the water overnight. A consider ran into a utility pole and snapping it in half. Thousands hit the pavement for the gary pappa run. Well have a live report. Those stories and more next on action news. Everybodys running to blinds to gos summer shade sale, going on now. 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