the slick we've seen in congress that has made so many americans sog disappoin d. what will the francis effect be? i can tell you, looking at the faces on the folks in the crowd that they have been moved. will others in washington in positions of power, which he meto bned people in pomstions of power, will they be moved, matt. >> thank you, chris.so that's exactly right. we're sitting in a location that is a bit of rarefied air. it's one of the days where you stop and think about how fortunate you are to have a job like this. i take pictures every once in a while. i took this one a second ago of the view from where we sit of watching the president and the pope address this crowd. george, i am taken back to 2008 where i had the great honor of sitting in this exact location at that time when pope benedict visited the white house and president bush. i sat with tim russert at that time. i not catholic, however, i agree with maria, you sit and you watch this and you look at the faces of the people who are witnessing it with you, and it is a deeply moving experience. it makes you feel good, and it gives you hope and hopefully that can be the message and that can be the feeling that lasts throughout the next five or six days of the pope's visit to this country. >> matt, as you know, the word "catholic" means universe. dylan thomas, i think it was, said catholicism means here comes everybody. that's true in the united states as well. this is the first universal nation. i think, if john paul -- john paul! if francis can bring that sense of universality back into the american public conversation that will be a great help. his two predecessors had very different experiences in the united states. as i mentioned earlier, the here. he was here in 1945. he understood how important it was for america and its allies to have won the second world war. john paul ii saw in the united states a model for how to be a free country in the late 20th century world, and he found in the united states an ally in his contest, particularly behind the iron curtain. this has got a different texture to it. francis is reaching down into our souls, or trying to reach down into our souls, and asking us to be a bit more to people dedicated to those noble ideals in the declaration of independence. >> you said something the other day, george, in kind of briefi us all on this visit, that struck me. you said that one of the common misconceptions about pope francis is that in some ways he is some sort of theological wild man. and those were your words, by the way, not mine. and that, in fact, he is not that at all. >> well, as maria has said and anne thompson said yesterday, this pope is committed to the settled doctrine of the catholic church. what he wants the church to do is to better articulate the "yes" that lies behind every time it must say no to somebody. he thinks people are hearing the no but they're not hearing the yes. >> does that make sense to you? >> yes. i think the other thing i am remained when i am listening to you. you say you are not catholic and you talk to a lot of people here of different faiths. one great quote says every faith has a past and every sinner has a future. he talks about immigration, global warming and he's also talking about love. he is really leading with love and compassion. he is leading with inclusion. he is saying, you know, we can we can all be better people. that quote is one that i have remembered and i think about a lot, every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. and that change can happen with every individual, and the change can come into the church, the church can be more inclusive. the church can be less judgmental. a lot of people felt the church judged them, made them feel guilty, shamed them. and he's trying to lift that, change the dialogue, change the emphasis and say, you know, come back in here. you're welcome. >> do we sometimes, though, put too much faith is the wrong word but hope in a moment like this? because there have been moments in the past where something has happened in this town that is so divided and we've all sat on a stage and said, maybe this is the moment, maybe this is the man who can make a difference, and we've come to be disappointed so many other times. >> i think he is saying all of us can be the man or the woman, it's not up to just him. >> i think he's also suggesting to the catholics of the united states, matt, particularly to the bishops of the united states, that they need to get back into the evangelization business. they need to strengthen what's going on in the realm, and they need to intensify it. because that's what's going to change things over the long time, making -- helping people become the saints they were created to be. >> it's been an exciting and thrilling morning. great to have you here, george. maria, always great to work with you. much more of the pope's visit throughout the day athat. i look so much better as a e peanut. >> and here is our hoda. you look like lucy. >> wait, are those spanx sticking out? 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>> the answer is b, 11. anybody in the audience get that that? so you want to hear a couple of them. basketball, beach volleybl, sport, and football, handball and they added hockey and rugby, tennis, and water polo and amazing sport. >> it is going to be a great olympics. hoda? >> what is your name? >> whitney. >> and i am your? >> feared mother. >> and which is the standard answer that you may not receive you may rely on it, it is not likely or -- >> a. >> b, it is not likely. oh, lao ook at this one from kathie lee. >> and it is b, it is not likely, and apparently, there are ten positive and ten negative. and i can't stand that sucker, and the best thing is that if you get the wrong answer, you shake it again. >> okay. all right. so, hoda? >> all right. let me say hello to these people real quick. hi. >>. > what is your name? >> laura. >> where are you from? >> branchville, new jersey. >> all right. here you go. finish this lyric to the jerry lee lewis song. >> great balls of fire. >> goodness gracious great balls of fire. >> she is right, goodness gracious great balls of fire. and apparently he loved the piano so much that he had the pool in the shape of it. and do you love anything so much that you h in the shape of it? 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"access hollywood live" starts right now. there he is he president meeting the pope. coming down the steps. look at the outfit. the first lady looki very strong right there. >> i love pope francis. isn't he cute? >> the president doesn't stand anyone other than the pope. >> they call him the people's pope. he is so about hugging and kissing, so warm. by the way, he is in d.c. today. >> i love the way he speaks. i skrus the just love his voice. >> he is so kind and humble. >> he is south american. he has been living in italy so long. he still has a little bit of the thing. >> you look terrific. your hair looks beautiful. >> i did it straight today. >> i love that you recognize when i change my head up. >> i did it for the pope, for morris chestnut. >> the pope is single but very unavailable. >> thank you very much. >> you do look good. >> the "new york post" says, god bless america. what did he say to the president that got him going? >> that's true. if pictures could talk. we need to know what he said. maybe the president told him, my pope joke. i have a pope joke. >> i have a pope joke. >> the pope walks into a bar. >> a very safe pope joke. >> i will screen it at commercial and get back to you whether we can say it. today is bruce springsteen's birthday. he is turning 66. we can all sing happy birthday to him without having to pay royalties. this he ruled the song is public domain and it always has been. >> if we ever wanted to sing, we have so many guests on birthdays, $1500. in a movie, it is like $5,000. now, we can rip it for anybody's birthday. >> warner chapel, the music label, has been taking royalties from all kinds of stage production and tv shows and even greeting cards. that greeting card company has to pay for happy birthday. we said $1500 a whack for us. this reminds me of a about a boy.