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Its sunday its meet the press. From nbc news in washington, this is mehe good sunday morning. President elect donald trump spent the weekend at his bed minister new jersey club meeting with possible members of the administration including onetime rival and critic mitt romney who is reportedly being considered for secretary of state as well as michelle reed, a democrat who ran the School System in washington, d. C. She could be the next education secretary. But if mr. Trump has made one thing clear its that hes not many conservatives perhaps had feared or liberals had hoped. Flynn says that militant islam poses a threat to the u. S. And sessions who has been accused of making racially insensitive to a federal judgeship in the 80s and mike pompeo, a tough critic of Hillary Clinton, on benghazi hes gotten bipartisan for the pick. Republican senators were largely supportive of the choices and democrats on the most part in particular Jeff Sessions sharply opposed. Joining me from new jersey is the current head of the Republican National committee but of course is president elects new Incoming White House chief of staff, Reince Priebus. First of all, congratulations on the new job. Well, good morning, chuck. Appreciate you having me on. Let me start with the meeting talked to a few people close to your campaign. But were talking to you. Thats simply that its Rudy Giuliani or mitt romney for secretary of state. Is that fair to conclude . Look, i think if you see the entire picture here, what i think americans should take from this, we have a president elect trump that wants to bring all americans together. He started with that speech that he gave on wednesday morning. Very graciously saying no matter o background is, im going to be here for you, make you proud of the country. What you saw with mitt romney, people with obviously ted cruz coming in is a continuation of the bridge building and this scene that all americans should take in that he wants to bring us all together. The meeting with mitt romney itself though i will tell you was a very good meeting. It was gracious and personable. It was very sincere and it was productive. So i dont we dont know where it will lead right now, should be proud of the way things are going here in president elect trumps operations. Would it surprise you ifpresident elect trump selected mitt romney for secretary of state . Look, im not sure who hes going to select but i but would you surprise you . Giuliani, general keane, general kelly, hes talked to mitt romney obviously. And well see, chuck, where it goes. But its a good sign for all americans. I want to talk about obviously donald trump ran especially at the end on the phrase he used it a lot, drain the swamp. But theres a number of moves that have happened this week that call that into question, perhaps some conflicts of interest. His daughter ivanka was seen pictured at the meeting with the japanese prime minister. There is some businessmen from india who have deals with the president elects organization, Trump Organization. They had a meeting with the of it. Creating this idea theyll end up profiting off of the trump name now that hes president in india. How are you organizing a divestment or a blind trust right now of donald trump and his businesses . Were not going to get into the details of that, but that is being handled. Theres nothing being discussed of any import. The meeting how do we know that . Because you didnt bring the meeting the meeting was cursory. Look, all of these things all of the rulesl chuck. There is going to be no violation of any of these rules i can assure you of that. And as we move forward, those those matters are going to be more clearly spelled out and youre going to be aware of it. But look, the one person i can tell you that makes these decisions is donald trump. Family is historically been involved with their fathers administrations and i can assure you though what youre seeing donald trump do right now is bring the best and the brightest decisions for america, for all americans. No matter who you are. But at the end of the day, how does he prove hes not planning to use the presidency to profit . There are reports that the trump hotel in washington, d. C. That ambassadors were encouraged to bring their visiting delegations and have them stay at the trump hotel in washington, d. C. , is that true . No its not true at all, chuck. And i think what you what we have here is a its truly a unique situation where you have a an International Business incredibly well in life thats now going to work toward focusing 24 7 on being president of the United States and setting up a system, a legal system, to shield himself from any and all conflicts. That whats were doing. Thats what people are going to see in the coming days and weeks the American People will see that. The wall street journal is recommending the following. The trump family political business, wall street journal, at least editorial page, the political damage to the new administration could be extensive they write if mr. Trump doesnt liquidate. He will be accused of a pecuniary motive any time he takes a policy position. They believe its untenable for trump or his kids to have any control over the Trump Organization while hes president. Does the president elect share look, were looking at this right now, chuck, as well. Like i said before well make sure that no matter what decisions are made that theyll be run through council. Theres a White House Councils office that will be there that will be issuing opinions and these matters all will be dealt with, dealt with accordingly. And donald trump, our new president is going to spend every hour, every minute of the day making america proud of where were going and making America Great america and making the decisions that benefit everyone the most in this country. So i think were just getting ahead of ourselves a little bit. But i can assure you that the will continue to be brought together no matter their background, their political affiliation, and all the rest. Let me ask you a question about the appointment of general mike flynn to National Security adviser. Essentially there are two corner offices in the white house. Youre in one, hes going to be in the other. In february, flynn posted a video listing bombings perpetrated by muslims with the comment, fear of muslims is rational. Registry for muslims . Look, im not going to rule out anything, but i wouldnt were not going to have a registry based on a religion. But what i think what were trying to do is say there are some people certainly not all people, chuck, there are some people that are radicalized and some people have to be prevented from coming into this country. And Donald Trumps position President Trumps position, is house and the senate that say the following. If you want to come from a place or an area around the world that harbors and trains terrorists, we have to temporarily suspend that operation until the better vetting system is put in place. And when that happens, that when a better vetting system is put in place, then those radical folks or theyll not be allowed in. But others will be allowed in. But only until that thats what not what flynn believes but donald trump believes. But does he believe that fear of muslims is rational . Well, he believes that no faith in and of itself should be judged as a whole. But there are some people in countries abroad that need to be prevented there are some people that need to be prevented from coming into this country. So i think thats where 99 of americans are at. All right. Reince priebus, the next white house chief of staff, appreciate the time and thanks for coming thank you, chuck. You got it. Well, on friday i travelled to michigan for a story on middle class voters who picked donald trump over Hillary Clinton. Well have that story for you later in the hour. But while i was there i took a break to interview the new Senate Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer. He said that Senate Democrats would give a very thorough look at Jeff Sessions and he had tough questions for mike flynn. Though he doesnt need confirmation. But then well begin with a question that i asked as to whether Senate Democrats should oppose trump because its good for the party or its good for the party. Well, my test is the specifics. We wont work with him for the sake of working with him and we wont oppose him because its something that trump sponsors. Let me give you an example. Candidate trump voiced very progressive and populist opinions. For instance, getting rid of the carried interest loophole, a large infrastructure bill, cleaning up the swamp in washington. These are things that democrats have always stood for and frankly republicans have always been against. So well challenge President Trump to work with us on those issues where we can. If he doesnt hell be breaking his promise to particularly the blue collar whom have voted for him on those particular issues. But on issues where our values are at stake, where the president goes in a divisive direction, where his campaign did before, well go against him and with everything weve got. Were not going to repeal or help him repeal obamacare. We are not going to roll back dodd frank. I think they should forget about that. We have 60 votes to block them. Were not going to help him Immigration Reform bill that builds a much tougher Border Security that has much more bipartisan support than he ever called for. We wont oppose him because its trump, but well oppose him wherever he opposes our values and i hope, chuck, one final thing, i hope on the promises hes made to blue collar america on trade, on carried interest, on infrastructure, that hell stick with them and work with us. Even if it means breaking with the opposed these things. You may have the longest relationship of any current u. S. Senator with donald trump. I know you frequently speak with him. Im curious how frequently have you spoken with him post election . Well, look, number one, i didnt know him that well. We see each other occasionally at events in new york. But i really didnt know him very well. You did a lot on the apprentice. Well, they asked me to do it and i was surprised and i dont i learned far more about him in the campaign. I was troubled by a whole lot of things in the campaign. The only thing i can say to my colleagues is, you know, president obama met with him and said the presidency is a sobering experience. So i hope President Trump will rise to the oncation and occasion and when he does well try to be supportive but when he doesnt well use everything weve got to oppose him. Im interviewing you right now from the suburbs of detroit. Were doing a big happened for instance in mccomb county, a place that there were obama trump voters. Why do you believe you lost the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton lost the voters that voted obama in 08 and 12 and voted trump in 16 particularly in michigan . You cant flinch or look away from it, you have to look at it directly in the eye and analyze what you did wrong. The analysis will continue. But my preliminary reading is strong, bold and pointed economic message that appealed to these people. And a message that talked about how rigged the system was in washington. What i hope to do is our democratic leader is craft policies and platform and message that are bold on economic issues. That are strong on economic issues. That dont just nibble around the edges believe, unite not only democrats in the senate. You have seen in our Leadership Team this kind of message has gotten Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren on our team as well as joe manchin and mark warner. But unite america. I dont think there should be a choice. People say, well, should we go after the Obama Coalition or the Blue Collar Workers . A bold, strong economic message will unite both of them. Both groups. Oakland county, the factory worker, the College Student in los angeles, the single mom trying to get above minimum wage in harlem. Finally let me ask you about the supreme court. Obviously you were not pleased with how Senate Republicans handled the Merrick Garland nomination. I assume baring some miracle for your side it is not going to be brought up during the lame duck. How pray for that miracle. Are you going to comfortable filibustering any pick that a President Trump makes . And if that happened, do you fear the Nuclear Response essentially by the republicans. Well, first, i hope that President Trump picks a mainstream candidate. A mainstream candidate is somebody you may not agree with on every issue, but basically believes in precedent and basically believes in following the what does that mean . Can he nominate somebody in your is he too conservative for you . Well, im not going to get into specific candidates, but we hope it would be mainstream. If it is mainstream, you have to remember the last four nominees, two from president bush, two from president obama got bipartisan support on the bench. If he doesnt nominate a mainstream candidate, were going to go at him with everything we have or her. Go at the candidate with everything weve got, because this is so, so important. Now has said lets not lets not use the filibuster. But they dont come with clean hands having delayed Merrick Garland for a whole year and furthermore, i was the person when the rules were changed back a few years ago when leader reid changed the rules. I said lets not do the supreme still do. Because we should get bipartisan support. So i hope both President Trump and leader mcconnell will recognize those facts. All right. Chuck schumer, i have to lead it there. The new Senate Democratic leader, thank you for joining us. As i told you, i did that interview on friday. Well, as the interview was airing donald trump tweeted the following about Chuck Schumer this morning, i have always had a Good Relationship with schumer. He is far smarter than harry and he has the ability to get things done, good news. There you go. My trip to macomb county, michigan. The reagan democrats who voted first for president obama and hear from senator hear from senator Bernie Sanders. Welcome to the world 2116, you can fly across town in minutes or across the globe in under an hour. Took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. And if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. . . Hey there, hi. Why do people have eyebrows . Why do people put milk on cereal . Oh, are you reading why people put milk on cereal . Why does your tummy go grumbily, grumbily, grumbily . 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He wants to make an overture to the republican establishment. Reputation not only at home but around the world. He wants to maybe have a different kind of face. Theres no question that romney brings a different face because he is the epitome of goodness and would be, i think, a very smart move for trump to put him up front as the face to the rest of the world. As somebody joked, if you took an American Flag and turned it into a human being, it would look like mitt romney. You have to have a Good Relationship though with the National Security advisor. I bring this up, thomas, as somebody who covered plenty of white house and international affairs. Mike flynn has been described this is by former colleagues, people that worked with him, they did it anonymously. You have covered general flynn back in the days of the first afghanistan surge. What do you know of him . I have seen general flynn in iraq, afghanistan, washington at the dia. Who has been tweeting. I had many encounters with him or several in his job as one of the most intelligent intelligent officers we have had. He and Stan Mccrystal together created the killing machine that took down al qaeda in iraq. They did it in an amazing way, leveraging big data. They would take down a terrorist leader, take his computer and cell phone and pour it into a computer, find links and do one raid and another and another. I dont know mike f mike flynn is a serious, intelligent guy. Qualified . The old mike flynn, definitely. I dont know the new mike flynn. Yeah. I would say the new mike flynn is deeply worrying. Thats who we have seen for the last year. Someone who has attacked muslims as awe group, someone who has tweeted also from the alt right, basically things that seem racist on their face. And also, in a more disturbing actually as a lobbyist been getting security briefings. He is a lobbyist for foreign entities, Foreign Companies that are linked to foreign governments and has been receiving briefings while he is doing that. I think in it the drain the swamp concern, theres something still there. One thing on flynn, were talking about list world view and combative personality. But his association with trump, how close he is, its revealing about this whole transition. He is there because he is loyal. He was one of the early people who would go up to the top of trumpow foreign aaffairs. Flynn was in the running for vp because he was there early. What we should learn here . Im talking about, a team of rivals or is is it going to be loyalists . National security, you have to have a secretary of state, a secretary of defense that are able to Work Together and are basically aligned on their priorities. They need to be aligned. They have to be basically aligned. Romney and flynn doesnt feel doesnt work. Giuliani and flynn to me is more an alignment. Kathleen . Gosh, well if you want if you want to present a fierce presence to the rest of the world, those two combined would certainly put fear in the hearts of our allies and enemies as well. The other thing about mitt romney i think really today we should change his name to mike romney, since that seems if you are a mike you have a remember in the second debate with obama, romney was the person who said in our greatest geopolitical foe is russia. He practically got laughed off the stage. This man is not he is no novice when it comes to foreign affairs. Many of the other things he setd said have come to be true. I want to go back to the ethics thing. Are the trump folks aware that i thought it was interesting that Reince Priebus didnt dismiss. The question is, who is having this conversation with the president elect in a confrontational way about his family, about his business . A lot of people around donald trump dont want to engage with him on that level on that topic. Thats deeply concerning. The idea that a president would profit from the he said he would work for the people, not himself. When you look at the information were getting about meetings with indian businessmen who want to do more business, the idea that the hotel he has is basically pushing foreign dignitaries to stay at his hotel, give the hotel money in order to curry favor with him. That is listen he does not seem to want to cell phone revolution. He responded. A friend of mine says, the cell phones, five years ago they were a portable xray machine. Now theyre a portable mri machine. They can see everywhere. They can tell the world what they see without an editor, a lawyer or filter. That can work for you and it can really work against you. Im going to end this. This is why everybody will buy his book. I dont know. I think its good. Were learning about who people are. Lets pause the conversation here. When we come back, we will hear from some of those white blue collar voters who abandoned Hillary Clinton for donald trump. What do they expect from their new president . Plus, quite a few of them were Bernie Sanders voters. I will talk to senator sanders about how he thinks democrats should respond. Should respond. Stay with . Jake reese, . Day to feel alive . . [burke] at farmers, weve seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. Even a rodent ridealong. [dad] alright, buddy, dont forget anything tain rod] happy Tuesday Morning captain rod here. Its pretty hairy out on the interstate. Traffic is literally crawling, but there is some movement on the eastside overpass. Getting word of another collision. [burke] it happened. December 14th, 2015. And we covered it. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. Energy is a complex challenge. People want power. Carbon emissions. The challenge is to capture the emissions before theyre released into the atmosphere. Exxonmobil is a leader in carbon capture. Our team is working to make this technology better, more affordable so it can reduce emissions around the world. Thats what were working on right now. . . Energy lives here. Welcome back. One of the big surprises of the election was the emergence of the obama trump voter. People who voted for barack obama in 2012, but abandoned the democrats this year and voted for trump. They were concentrated in middle class suburbs and in rural areas and helped trump win six states, and gave him a decisive victory in the electoral college. I travelled to the epicenter, macomb county, michigan. Democrats in the 80s. It is one of 225 obama to trump counties nationwide. A small amount of counties but many stretch across the upper midwest. 12 in michigan. 22 in wisconsin and 22 in iowa. Obama didnt necessarily disappoint me. I guess. He didnt fulfill everything i wanted. A group of voters i sat down with in warren, voted obama in 2000 we wanted to get out of the Bush Administration and we were told lies. Reporter but this time, he picked trump. What made you vote for him . Well, what made me vote for him, i believed that Hillary Clinton was a criminal. This man is the owner of little joes coney island, a diner. I hear people say hes a billionaire. They cant control him. He came, right . 30 miles north of here. I think a lot of people feel like she took it for granted, like it was always been a blue can state and she had it in the back pocket. Macomb county is car country, ford is next door in sterling heights. Half of the manufacturing jobs in macomb vanished. Some have come back, but Median Household Income is down 25 . Pensions are gone or disappearing. The cost of health care is up. If im elected, you wont lose one plant. Voters expect trump to keep the promises. Put us all to work. Give us the opportunity to earn a living and take care of our families. Thats it. Its that simple. Job creation. Not doing all of our jobs off shore. Macomb still whiter than the rest of the country, is the young people are talking about how proud they are to be diverse. I see my children with a school with 30 different languages spoken. With it, come some cultural changes. I dont like that you can have a transgendered person going into the bathroom. Voters arent sure that trump can unite the country. How hes talked about me, my daughters and women, who hes appointing all these all white men, to me reaching out is having my father is an albanian muslim from kosovo. Stop the rhetoric thats out there where people are being offended, attacked or whatever the case may be because theyre minorities. They have a different look to them, a different name to them. They practice a different religion. All. By the way remember those 12 obama to trump counties in michigan that i mentioned . Bernie sanders beat Hillary Clinton in nine of them in the michigan primary. By the way, Bernie Sanders also beat her in all 22 of the counties in wisconsin that went from obama to trump in the Wisconsin Democratic primary. Joining me now is Bernie Sanders who is out a new book called our revolution. Good to be with you, chuck. Just those county stats alone in wisconsin and michigan, the fact of the matter is theyre clearly and i ran into them, there were clearly people supporters of you. You were for some supporters second choice and clinton was not the second choice and they chose to stay home. Do you think you would have had a better chance at carrying michigan and wisconsin if you had been the democratic nominee . Chuck, i dont know that does a whole lot of good to look backwards but we have to look forward. And we have to hear what the workers are saying a few moments ago and theyre sick and tired theyre sick and tired of seeing their jobs go to china and other low wage countries. Which means that we have to transform our trade policies and tell Corporate America to tart investing in this country and not countries all over the world. That means we have to raise the minimum wage. We need pay equity for the women workers and we need to rebuild the crumbling infrastructure and make public colleges and universities tuition free. In other words. Worker class of the country has been decimated and the rich are getting richer. People are tired of it and they want real change and ill do as part of the new leadership of the democratic par tri to bring about the change. One of the things you hear about is job retraining for folks who are displaced but i want to play a quote from the coo of the auto parts manufacturer and he was talking take a listen. You have been out on this floor doing skilled or semiskilled work and youre 40 years old, you dont want to go do a computer based job. You want to make things. Essentially the job retraining programs and some of these younger votech programs almost too computer based. He was complaining of lack of skilled labor, but physical skilled labor. Well, i think we have to move forward on all fs. Wants to go to college. Thats fine. God knows there are enormous amounts of work out there that dont require a college degree. We have to get people the training to do that which is why we have to rebuild our inner cities. We have to rebuild our infrastructure. Theres a desperate need for Affordable Housing in this country. We can put millions of people to work rebuilding this country and so many other parts of america and that is what we have to do. On the other hand, in a highly competitive Global Economy we do in the world. We have to make public colleges and universities tuition free and mr. Trump by the way and his billionaire friends are going to have to start paying their fair share of taxes. The progressive movement, the Democratic Party is having a debate about whether to work with donald trump when there is agreement. I want to read for you something that eric sassen of the new republican had to say about this debate. To so Many Democrats any mention of finding Common Ground with trump is a step towards accomplishing the exact thing by prematurely offering to work with trump before hes shown the slightest bit of contrition, Congressional Democrats are hollowing out the argument hes unfit for office and that needs to be made more than ever. Its up to trump to prove to us hes able to lead. We shouldnt make it easy for him. Bottom line is this, essentially, do you not work with him until he shows some contrition on some of the social issues . Chuck. When donald trump helped lead the Birther Movement that was nothing less than a racist effort to undermine the legitimacy of the first africanamerican president we have ever had. That was racist and disgraceful. The Africanamerican Community and all of us deserve an apology. When he talks about latinos and mexican as criminals and rapist thats outrageous. When he says that people who are muslims cannot enter the United States, thats aou clear. Speaking for only myself. There is no compromise. We have come too far as a country to try to move forward in a nondiscriminatory way. To go backwards and see us divided up by racism and xenophobia. On the other hand, issues like raising the minimum wage you know trump has talked about hes or med care and medicaid. Hes going to reestablish the glass steagall kind of legislation, we have been working on those for years. If he wants to work on those, i accept that. You dont accept the premise you shouldnt work with him under any premise . Right. But hes said outrageous thing and he needs to apologize to the American People. There are people all over this country who are really frightened. But the other thing, the other thing, chuck, is Climate Change. It is beyond comprehension that we have a president elect who thinks its a hoax when the whole Scientific Community is telling us senator, right. I want to go back to the other point. What do you say to the progressives that say, hey the republicans essentially united against president obama and guess what . It was good politically for the republican party. What youre describing is going to be perhaps good for the workers youre talking about, but may be bad for the progressives . I think we need a good strategy to make sure that in fact we push our agenda. Look, on the issues, chuck, that im talking about, these are the things that i have been fighting for years. But theres no compromise, none whatsoever on bigotry. Theres no compromise on Climate Change because the future of the planet is at stake. We need a strategy and im going to work on the strategy. To go to michigan, to go to wisconsin, to stand with working people, to demand that we reverse the decline of the american middle class. Senator sanders, thats all the time i have for today. Thank you for sharing your views. Congrats on the new book our revolution. Before we go to break, we said goodbye to our dear friend and colleague, gwen ifill. She was the host of Washington Week and she broke a barrier everywhere she went. She was tough and fair yet at not to mention she had a great bs detector. Something plenty of politicians learn the hard way. I was honored to have gwen as a panelist on this show many times. She made everyone including myself a lot smarter. She made over 70 appearances and many times we were on the show together we both called a mentor, tim russert. On the recent appearance on meet the press, just eight weeks ago. She reflected on the opening of the new National Museum of culture. The emotion of the people in that audience, mostly blacks singing full throatedly reminded me of what one of the things that are true in this country. Which is that we want to, aspire to make it a better union and we see the clash and the hopefulness of that Beautiful Museum put up against what we see happening in the streets. Have been impacted will be fully refunded. Second, a confirmation will be sent when new personal or Small Business checking, savings or credit card accounts are opened. Third, weve eliminated Product Sales goals for our retail bankers to ensure your interests are put first. Were taking action. Were renewing our commitment to you. After brushing, listerine . Total care strengthens teeth, namel. Its an easy way to give listerine . Total care to the total family. Listerine . Total care. One bottle, six benefits. To be free, be free . . cause theres a million things to be . . 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In virginia, o million votes cast in the last seven elections combined, only 72,000 votes separate the republicans and the democrats. In ohio, 34 million president ial votes cast, only 68,000 separate the two major parties. But take a look at florida. Out of nearly 50 million votes cast in a president ial race since 92, only 11,296 votes republicans. Thats. 02 . If that was the margin in a single florida election, we would see a recount, probably a lot of hand counts. Florida, florida, florida. Its for good reason. Its the microcosm of america. You have the old Republican Coalition and the new democratic coalition. Florida is the ultimate battleground state. When we come back, guess who think leader of the Democratic Party going forward. Its barack obama. Before we go to break, here is snls take on trump meeting with potential cabinet picks. Thank you for taking the time to meet with me. Governor romney, so good of you to come. This isnt going to work, is it . 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But i think the reality is just this week when you see Jeff Sessions, mike flynn and steve bannon, you know, theres a view that the president has to reach out after a divisive race. We havent seen much of that. I think democrats are actually Many Democrats, many progressives are deeply worried divisive presidency do you count the tweet about schumer this morning . I would love a tweet that said that people should stop hate crimes and people should stopwastikas. But there are people who are worried because they feel bullied. The president of the United States has yet to really use his twitter account to address that. I couldnt agree with that more. Ive been he needs to address the nation and talk about, look, im a loose cannon, i say things that i dont mean, i dont feel. Make it a serious and sincere it doesnt have to be an apology necessarily. Look, this is not who i am. This is what i intend to do. He has to address it face on. It would change things. You know him well. How likely is he to do Something Like that . Most important relationship in washington is between schumer line in the sand. What you have to watch is how does ryan handle it if trump starts working with democrats. Most important interview was bannon to the hollywood reporter. He dangled out there a Million Dollars in infrastructure. You will see trump he is not driven by an ideological compass. I want to talk about who will run the party. I found this fascinating. President obama did an through the final days of the campaign and then after. Tom, the president said this. In other words, he is saying, i will lead the party. When is the last time we had an expresident do that . Democrats could do a lot leads, its what they lead on. I think its very important that democrats not just be about redistribution. They have to be about growing. They have to be about entrepreneurship. I watched the democratic convention. They had women, black, gay, transgender. They had a dwarf who was charming. They didnt have a entrepreneur. Somebody who was a risk taker. Im here to grow the pie, not just to redistribute. What about i find it fascinating. He is challenging let me describe him and finish your point. Democratic congressman from young youngstown, ohio. He wants to challenge nancy pelosi. He probably will lose. But he will probably make himself a very competent candidate for governor of ohio in 2018. This is a fight in the party what have to be. Were asking why is president obama prepared to be a leader . Because they havent had opportunities to become leaders. This is a microcosm. Can a person like ryan get a shot . Look, i think i think that the party needs all voices. I think its it need fresher voices than schumer and pelosi . Look at the reality. Senator sanders, he has been there a long time. He is giving an important voice in the leadership as well as an array of diverse voices. This is the time to have a at Democratic Party. Nancy pelosi has been a person who has been able to hold democrats together. But its an important debate for us to have. This race could end up being decided on what you just mentioned, identity politics in the house. If the democrats become too associated with identity politics. I think everybody recognizes that we need a stronger reform message. Both about our politics and about our economy. I think the message of the election is that people are and democrats have to give a voice to that. Technology and globalization are upsetting the two things that anchor people in the world. Community and their workplace. Its happening at the same time. Diversification. People go to the grocery store. They are being spoken to in a different language, dressed quickly. They go into the bathroom and theres a person of another gender. They go to work and theres a robot next to them. All those things, fast once, have destabilized people. Tim ryan, his gifts would be better used if he could teach us to meditate. But on the issue that tom was addressing. One of the big elements here in this sort of sense of disenfranchisement is loss of identity. This is whats driving the movements in europe as well as here. No one is actually really spoken to that. Yes, we acknowledge there are languages, which i sort of love. The diversity of our population i find appealing. We enjoy that here in washington. The sense of loss of who we are, our National Identity is whats not being discussed in terms that people can relate to. You have to identify it. You have to say it and democrats just dont do that. They just collect all the various identities that they can rather than talk about the one that unites us all. I will pause here. Homeless in their own country. Why did donald trump give in and decide to settle that Trump University lawsuit for 25 million . 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When it comes to the legal entanglements, he is cutting some of them. I think were losing sight of the fact that he said he was innocent and nothing wrong. It was a great university. He settled after he said he multiple times saying when you settle its an admission of guilt. He knows that he was basically accused of defrauding students. He is giving them money for his defrauding them. Its the reality. We cant forget he ran a campaign that debased our culture, that hurt a lot of people and erased red lines we have never seen erased before. Somehow if we forget that, if we think it was about the campaign and its not going to happen again and we dont set up new red lines in a clear way, we are i mean, i have to say, who is listening . I dont know about the rest of you, any time i say anything thats slightly at least open minded towards trump, its saying people are responding, you are normalizing him. There they go, they will start its apocalyptic. The responses you get on social media. Exactly. No matter what. This is a problem for a lot of progressives, which is he said terrible things about a lot of people. He succeeded. People are wonderi erased the red lines. Who will uphold the red lines, basic standards of what it is to be an american when we had such a divisive race . We used to believe you couldnt pit people against each other and win. The lesson we have gotten is that you can. It can succeed. We have do it. But republicans have to do it, too. If they all just fold they need to set the example. Conservative and republicans dont play the role that you yes. Absolutely. Because of their feelings towards clinton. Talk to these voters. At the same time, investigate and report the administration. But understand what the voters are talking about. That was the goal of this show. You were great. Thank you very much. Thats all we have for today. We wish you a happy thanksgiving. I think its the best holiday we have. I look forward to hearing the conversations between all the crazy uncles debating each other. We will be back next because even on thin thanksgivi sunday, even if its sunday,