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>> actually the president. >> sit down and shut up. dickerson: democratic front runner hillary clinton joins us we'll check in with republican candidates rand paul and chris christie. plus, house speaker paul ryan puts the spotlight on the issue of poverty. one party takes group of people for granted, another party has not paid attention to them. >> dickerson: all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs good morning welcome to "face the nation" i'll john dickerson we're going to get right to our lead guest, former secretary of state hillary clinton who is in chappaqua, new york, this morning. good morning, secretary clinton i want to start with politics, we'll talk about a lot today but start with politics the new nbc "wall street journal" poll in iowa it's 48-45. you over sanders. you were once way ahead. what's happening? >> oh, john, you know these polls go up, they go down. i stay pretty focused as i think we all should on what we have to the obama administration, but go even further that's why i've outlined a very significant agenda to raise wages and to take on the gun lobby and fob making america safe in every way that i can those are some of the differences that i have with my primary opponents, certainly very deep differences with all the republicans running. >> dickerson: this week another batch of e-mails were released by the state department. one of them is back and forth between you and a staffer about through. you directed him to, quote, turn into non-paper with no identifying heading and send nonsecure. aren't you ordering him to violate the laws on handling classified material there? >> no. not at all. as the state department said just this week, that did not happen. it never would have happened because that's just not the way i treated classified headings are not classification notices and so oftentimes we're trying to get the best information we can. obviously what i'm asking for is whatever can be transmitted, if it doesn't come through secure to be transmitted on the unclassified system. no, there is nothing to that like so much else that has been talked about in the last year. >> dickerson: so, in no instance -- what is striking about that particular e-mail suggests you were very -- how do this process you knew the instructions how to get around the restrictions for sending classified information. so you're saying there was never an in tans, any other instance which you did that? >> no. and it wasn't sent. i think this is another instance where what is common practice, namely i need information, i have points to make i was looking for secure fax that could give me the whole picture. oftentimes there's a lot of classified. whatever information can appropriately transmitted unclassified often was, that's true for every agency in the government and everybody does business with the government. but the important point here is, i had great confidence because i worked with jake sullivan for years. he is the most meticulous, careful person you could possibly do business with. and he knew exactly what was and wasn't appropriate. in fact the state department has said there was no transmission of any classified information. it's another effort by people looking for something tootle against the wall as you said in the beginning of the program to, see what sticks. but there's nothing there. >> dickerson: this one is a little different since fbi is investigating this specific question of whether a classification was muddled with. let me ask you about another e-mail which you seem ex there's surprise that somebody e-mailed on non-state department personal e-mail. why was that a surprise to you? >> well, i e-mailed two people on their government accounts because i knew that all of that would be part of the government system. indeed the vast majority of all my e-mails are in the government system. that's how i conducted the business. i was very clear about e-mailing anything having to do with business to people on their government accounts. >> dickerson: on gun control this week, you've been pretty tough on bernie sanders, specifically on the question of legal protection to gun manufacturers. he has now said that he would be interested in to changing the law to allow -- to go after gun manufacturers who act irresponsibly. isn't that what you want? >> no. that's not what i want. that's not what the country wants, that's not what president obama called for. i think he has been consistently refusing to say that he would vote to repeal this absolute responsibility or liability. it's the only industry in our country where we have given that kind of carte blanche to do whatever you want to do with no fear of legal consequences. you know, president obama and i and senator sanders were all in the senate at the same time. two of us voted against what the nra says was the most important piece of legislation in 20 years for the gun lobby. senator sanders voted with them, through this morning has been unwilling to join the president and me in saying that this should be repealed. that has to be the effort that we all are behind. and he often says, well, look, i'm from vermont and it's different. it's not like being in new york city. well, in fact the other senator from vermont senator leahy voted with president obama and myself. i think that the excuses and efforts by senator sanders to vote which the nra hailed as the most important in 0 years, points out a clear difference. it's a difference that democratic voters in our primary can take into account who is going to really stand up to the gun lobby, try to deal with the scourge of gun violence that takes 90 people's lives a day. i'm pretty clear on what i will do. and i support and will work hard to implement what the president has been advocating. >> dickerson: on senator sanders' response this idea that he represents a state which there are lot of gun owners, you were a senator, aren't you sympathetic to that? you said you represented wall street, that's what shaped your views on certain wall street policy you suggested that as president you'd be different than did you as senator when you were representing state with a constituency. why isn't it fair for bernie sanders to say as president i would be different than i would as a senator representing a state with a lot of gun owners? >> well, you know, i think you've really mixed up two i've been consistent on gun lobby restrictions. in fact i supported the brady bill, senator sanders voted against it five times. so, there is a very clear difference. and when it comes to wall street, yes, i represented new york. i was proud to do so. and i took on wall street, i'm the person who came out against derivatives, i'm the person who came out calling for restrictions on ceo pay which thankfully got into the dodd frank bill. i'm the person who went to wall street actually confronted them in 2007, i called them out on the role they were playing in the mortgage market. i do have a history of taking on what i consider to be the abuses that come from any industry, including wall street. and i will continue to do so as president and the proposal that i've put forth about how we reign in to face what we did in 2008 has been judged as being tougher, more effective by barney frank, my friend ohio who leads the banking efforts in the senate and by paul krugman i have plan that will go after not just the big banks because dodd frank has given us the tools to do a lot of that. but to go after the so-called shadow bank can industry. i think i'm well prepared, i know what needs to be done, like nixon going to china, john. >> dickerson: let me ask you about a general election opponent you may face that is donald trump you got into a pretty ugly exchange you charged that he -- him with sexism then he put out instagram video of your husband and monica lewinsky, your reaction to that? >> well, if he wants to engage in personal attacks from the past, that's his prerogative. so be it. i'm going to draw the distinctions between where i stand and where he stands when it comes to equal pay for women. raising the minimum wage which affects two-thirds of the women who are the ones receiving the protecting a woman's right to make the most personal healthcare decisions, that's why i'm so proud to have the endorsement of the planned parenthood action fund that i received today in new hampshire, because i'm going to fight as hard as i can against any efforts to defund planned parenthood, something that he supports. there are very clear distinctions, he can say whatever he wants to about me. let the voters judge that. i am not going to let him or any of the other republicans rip away the progress that women have made, it's been too hard fought for and i'm going to stand up and make it clear there's a huge difference between us. >> dickerson: sect clinton what do you say to those in your own party who say that is discussion that have portion of your husband's career is fair game to talk about in an election. >> well, it's been fair game going back to the republicans for some years. they can do it again if they want to. that can be their choice as to how to run in this campaign. didn't work before. it won't work again. because it is what people are focused on not for the past but what are we going to do to get wages rising. what are we going to do to create more good jobs and keep rights. what are we going to do to make sure that the supreme court has people on it who will defend women's rights. who will defend marriage equality. who will defend voters rights. so, i can't run anybody else's campaign. they can say whatever they want, more power to them. i think it's a dead end, blind alley for them, let them go. i'm going to talk about the differences because i think that's what americans compare about. >> dickerson: i'm going -- we're add dead end ourselves thanks fob being with us. >> thanks, let's continue the conversation, john. >> dickerson: see you out there. we caught up with republican presidential candidate chris christie jed in columbia, south carolina. we begin our conversation with president obama's use of executive action to expand background checks. why isn't this leadership? he's using every possible method he can to get what he wants. you've talked a lot about leadership. he's act can like a dictator and petulance child. what i mean in 2008 he came in with it all. huge majority in the house. filibuster proof majority in the senate. governors. since that time 31 republican governors big majority in the house, majority in the senate, his policies have been rejected by the american people but he doesn't want to hear that. >> dickerson: gun control question, donald trump has suggested getting rid of gun free zones in schools and military bases would you agree with that? >> i think for the military, i've said this before for attacks earlier in tennessee. that it seems ridiculous that weapon with them. they're trained to do it. the best trained people. i would certainly be in favor of our military folks being able to carry weapons in those circumstances. on the gun free school zones they should be able to look on its own. >> dickerson: your record on assault weapons. when we last talked you said keep an assault weapons ban, those who wanted to get rid of it. in 2009 you were still supporter of the assault weapons ban that was after you'd been a prosecutor. >> what i said at the time that i was not interested in debating or changing because i knew i couldn't new jersey's gun laws for democratic legislature. of if i had my choice apply much more easily and received much more easily carry permit in our state. we should be a state to defend themselves. >> dickerson: within you're in that race with john in 2009, he said christie stands with the nra your pam campaign put out fact check called that a lie. then your campaign said this, chris christie supports assault weapons ban and all current gun laws. he opposes attempts to permit conceal and carry laws in new jersey. hardly the nra position. that seems different. >> it is. these things over time. i learned about this over tomb. in new jersey i have grown up in a culture in our state of very, very vigorous anti-gun laws. i travel the country as a governor i've learned great deal about this. my actions as governor of new jersey had been exactly where i think they need to be. these things involve public safety, i'm for public safety if the laws are going to make legislative and governors feel better they shouldn't be put in place and infringe second amend med rights it's revolution over time, absolutely. >> dickerson: would you say you stand with the nra? >> i stand with anybody who believes in protecting the second amendment and protecting public safety whether it's the nra or other organizations like new jersey pistol club or others i stand with organizations who want to make sense between public safety and our second amendment rights. >> dickerson: just going back to that, you stand with the nra? the nra but on issues, you take them down issue by issue i'll be able to answer. i'm not going to say i stand with any particular with a blank check that's not what leadership is. >> dickerson: you are -- is ted cruz legally eligible to be president in your view? >> it appears to me he is. dickerson: you gave speech this week saying that you understand voters are angry, but that it's time for them to pick a president that they shouldn't just pick somebody out of anger. >> that's not what i said. i said anger alone is not solution to our nation's problems. beer a place where we pick someone who can actually fix the problems that are making us angry. and so part of the speech was calling our republican party to emphasizing our differences. that we need to bring ourselves together in order to beat hillary clinton. every time we divide ourselves we make it easier for her to >> dickerson: show time is over but you put on pretty good show. >> game time is on now. now has to perform. show time is a time where everybody gets to judge you and look and your prancing around the stage. now it's game time. >> dickerson: the competition has gotten tougher between you and some of your rivals. you said marco rubio trying to slime his way to the white house. when super pac running ad said, that you supported common core you once supported assault weapons ban that you donated to planned parenthood. which one of those is wrong? >> i never donated to planned parenthood that's wrong. secondly, for him to be trying to characterize my conservative record in that way is contrary to what marco said. marco himself has said that i was conservative reformer in new jersey. here is the thing, i'm not going to spend my time talking about marco rubio. if marco wants to think that debate, someone told you that by criticizing me it helps you. that same someone now talking to marco. i'm not going to fall for. that you saw my response to marco. i talked about him, fact is focus on defeating hillary clinton. i'm happy to stand by my record of having made decisions. >> dickerson: just on planned parenthood never donated or supported. >> no. j governor christie, thanks very much. >> thanks, john. dickerson: clarification. marco rubio has said chris kiss tee donated to planned parenthood but not part of the super pac's ad. we'll be back in one minute with house speaker paul ryan. you. right down to your skin. aveeno daily moisturizing lotion with 5 vital nutrients for healthier looking skin in just one day. aveeno . >> dickerson: gathered in columbia, south carolina, yesterday at a poverty summit hosted by house speaker paul ryan. we sat down with the speaker afterwards to discuss that issue as well as the president's bill to repeal obamacare. mr. speaker, when president obama announced expanding background checks, he said, i respect the second amendment and gub ownership. then you said, quote, he had never respected that right so do you think he's not telling the truth? >> i think he'd like to go whole lot farther than he is going right now. point number two, there isn't a loophole if you are in the business of buying and selling guns you have to have federal firearms license. if you have a federal firearms license you have to do background checks. so, i think this is basically the president looking for an issue to exploit in some ways because these so-called solutions that he's talking about they would not have stopped any of these shootings. >> dickerson: did you think he respects the second amendment? >> , no i actually don't. i think he would like to go much fur that you are than what the second amountment allows. >> dickerson: you want republicans to offer an alternative to the president, one of the first things did you this year was offer that repeal. how is that an alternative? >> it's not. that's why we had to come up with an alternative. >> dickerson: will do you that? >> i don't know how far it will go given the fact that we have filibuster and guy named obama. but my goal is that we as republicans if we don't like these laws, don't like the direction the country is going, i think we have to be more than just opposition party. we have to be a proposition party. if we don't like this we ha to have show how we'll do things differently. we think obama fair is failing, whether it's premiums, restricted access, higher deductible, families losing insurance that they want and keep that's happening all across the country. people are hurting and we need to offer a solution. yes, yes, this and many other issues we need to offer alternatives. >> dickerson: you want to help define republican party -- >> there's going to be nominee of the party won't they be the one who kind of is the face of the republican party? >> they will be the face in the fall. we don't have time to wait until the fall. myth romney if you wait until late summer roll out what you believe in what your agenda is it's too late. that's why we're going to go early. one of the reasons we did this poverty summit today here in columbia, south carolina, is we want to showcase our principles, our ideas, we want to show that we have better ideas for getting people out of poverty, root causes of poverty for getting opportunity restored in america. >> dickerson: also night i was at a donald trump rally in rock hill, south carolina, there were 7,000 people. the crowd reaction was very loud on the following thing. donald trump's opposition to the support. his opposition to last year's budget at the end of the year budget which you support. his opposition to undocumented workers having any pathway to legal status or citizenship. and also to any tinkering with entitlement. crowd didn't just clap politely. how does republican party get together when you have set of to those people. >> i think what we do as leaders, as we say who we are, what we believe, where we want to lead. and let the people decide. that's the way i see this thing. i really think the country is in a bad path, a dangerous path. i think we can lose what so unique about our country. this american idea, the condition of your birth doesn't life. prosperity and security. all those things are in real deep jeopardy. so, do i agree or disagree with various candidates on various issues, of course i do. we're individuals. but can we offer the country a really clear and compelling choice, it's not divisive but inclusive, that's inspirational, that's pro growth. i think we can do that. >> dickerson: does the campaign makes it harder? >> this is primary season. what's happen can right now are trying to distinguish themselves from the same party, from over primaries inevitably have this kind of friction, once you get to the primary i think we unify conservative movement. we unify as a cause. we go out and we try to win converts. we try to get the country a clear choice. >> dickerson: will you support donald trump if he -- >> of course i will. dickerson: and ted cruz if he's the nominee? you're here in south carolina to deal with poverty and opportunity. there was time in is the 67 the ghettos. i traveled with jack kemp in 1996 when he went to all these hard hit neighborhoods. why doesn't ha happen in campaigns any more? >> i've been doing it the last three years. campaigns. >> it's really good question. i think we need to do that. it's a mistake that's been made. i think that's exactly right. we have got to go and compete for the minds and hearts and votes of everybody in this country no matter who they are. and what i think we've had one party takes group of people for granted and another party has not paid attention to them. this summit here, hosted by the jack kemp foundation who is guy who taught me this about upper mobility, fighting poverty and restoring opportunity, so, yes, i think our presidential candidates need to do this. one thing i haven't done like i >> dickerson: the appreciate thursday kept from you doing it in 2012 do they still exist? 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