hide? from abc news, "this week" with george stephanopoulos begins now. so much to get to this morning, and we begin with that breaking news from europe where secretary of state john kerry has been hospitalized after a biking accident in france. the state department has just announced that he's calling off his diplomatic mission. abc's hamish macdonald has all of the latest from london. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, george. the state department just releasing that information, the secretary of state has in fact broken his leg, it's a fracture to the right femur, he's now traveling directly back to boston for treatment. doctors are concern because this injury is very close to previous hip surgery. now, the accident happened while secretary kerry was biking through the french alps, outside of a town called scionzier, it's near the swiss border, he was there as part of a four-country tour. we're hearing from the state department that doctors and paramedics were on the scene immediately. he was then flown to geneva university hospital. of course, we know that he's an avid cyclist. he have seen him around lake geneva. his plan was to travel on to spain later today for meetings. and then to france but for now, not surprisingly, those travel plans have been canceled. george. >> hamish, thanks very much. woe hope he gets back soon. now to that sad news that we learned overnight, that the vice president's son, beau biden, has died last night at the age of 46. the vice president's family released this statement overnight. "the entire biden family is saddened beyond words. beau biden was, quite simply, the finest man we have ever know." the president saying michelle and i humbly pray for the good lord to watch over beau biden and to protect and comfort his family here on earth. he was born joseph beau biden. an iraq war veteran, awarded the bronze star, after serving as delaware's attorney general, beau was planning a run for governor next year. he introduced his father at the last two democratic conventions. >> he's the father that i have always known, the grandfather my children love and adore, and the vice president our nation needs. my father, my hero, joe biden! >> reporter: the biden family has known so much tragedy. beau's mother and sister killed in a 1972 car accident. beau and hunter survived. joe biden sworn in just days later at the 4-year-old's hospital bedside. out of that loss a remarkable bond between father and son. >> the incredible bond i have with my children is a gift that i'm not sure i would have had, had i not been through what i went through. >> reporter: and now, as the tributes for beau flow in, that father's heart broken, the bond eternal. >> a father knows he's a success, when he turns and looks at his son and daughter and know they turned out better than -- i'm a success. i'm a hell of a success. beau, i love you. i'm so proud of you. >> and our thoughts and prayers are with the vice president and the whole biden family this morning. we'll switch gears now to that dramatic showdown over the patriot act, playing out this afternoon in an emergency session. where rand paul. that program will end at midnight if the senate doesn't act. president obama this morning. >> heaven forbid, we got a problem where we could have prevented a terrorist attack but we didn't do so simply because of inaction in the senate. >> let's bring in richard clarke now. counterterrorism adviser to three presidents. richard, thanks for joining us this morning. we just heard that warning from president obama, but you actually served on president obama's panel that reviewed the nsa's surveillance program. essentially concluded that it wasn't necessarily so is the president being a bit alarmist here what's really at stake? >> no. what the president is saying that he's willing to give up this program, where every call to and from information is recorded and kept by the government. he's willing to give that up, because we found that it did little or no value. had little or no value. but, if the bill expires altogether if the patriot acts expires altogether, there are other investigative tools the lone wolf authority, for example, the roving wiretap authority, that will go away as well. that will probably happen tonight. >> how serious would that be? >> well, it depends on how long it goes on. what i think will happen tonight is, the law will expire and then later in the week, the usa freedom act, that act will pass and most of the authorities will be restored. so, we're likely to be faced with only a few days where the fbi won't have a handful of tools that frankly they don't often use. >> they don't use them that often, what does it mean when you have that window that's likely to be there for three days? >> probably not much, because the fbi does have other authorities. they can go to the intelligence court and get a warrant if they have probable cause. they can go to any u.s. court and get a search warrant under the criminal authorities. so, it probably is not as big a deal as the president is making out. on the other hand the patriot act authority which is going to expire is certainly not a big a deal that senator mcconnell is making out. >> of course, you can never predict congress. should also take the opportunity to congratulate you on your new book "pinnacle event." a great beach read. look forward to reading it. thank you, richard, for joining us. and we're going to turn now to that stunning indictment of former house speaker hastert. a mission to clean up congress, now facing the prospect of jail time and this morning, we have new information on the hush money scandal pursued by the fbi. jim avila has that story. >> reporter: he came from practically nowhere, a high school teacher, from a small rural district outside of chicago, to become the most powerful man in congress. when he resigned he seemed to disappear again and but then emerging this week in scandal, former speaker of the house, dennis hastert, accused of bank fraud and lying to the fbi. a longtime friend says the illinois republican is baffled. >> no question that he's been blackmailed. i hope it becomes exposed and he's vindicated. >> reporter: sources tell abc news, hastert reportedly agreed to pay $3.5 million as hush money to a former student he allegedly sexually abused some time during his 16-year tenure at yorkville high school in illinois. and sources say, there is a second person who was allegedly victimized in a similar way by hastert when he was a student. he did not ask for any hush money, but one of hastert's former wrestling stars, tells abc news, that's not the person he knew. >> i stand behind him in 200%. i would be in his back pocket in washington, until the end. >> reporter: hastert attracted federal suspicion a few years ago when making 15 withdrawals of $50,000 from his bank. when questioned, authorities say, he started taking out smaller amounts, more than a hundred just under the reporting limit of $10,000. hastert told the fbi he kept the cash because he didn't think the banking system was safe, prosecutors alleged that was a lie. this week, the longest serving republican speaker in the history of the house, denny hastert, is expected to be arraigned. for "this week," jim avila, abc news. >> thanks to jim for that. let's bring in dan abrams, the fbi gets alerted to these withdrawals from hastert's bank account. walk us through how they decide to take a case like this snp >> look, they want to know what's going on, is there money laundering? is this connected to terrorism? so, the bank gives them the heads up and then the potential crime is when he changes his behavior. so, it's not a crime to take out large sums of money, it is a crime to then structure your withdrawals to try not to trigger this -- >> written a check, no problem. >> checks are okay, wire transfers are okay, because there's more accountability there. this crime is targeted at accountability to make sure people can't take out enormous sums of money without knowing where it's going. >> the fbi comes to dennis hastert and says, look at these withdrawals, what are his options? >> either he can come clean and say i'm being extorted. here's what happened. he obviously didn't want to talk about it. in this particular case, he didn't want to admit it. he wanted to keep it quiet. he could have said nothing, he could have hired a lawyer and this would have been the best thing legally for him to have done is to have said nothing. or doing what he's accused of doing, lying. but let's remember, these crimes we're talking about, lying to the fbi and the structuring financial crime, are not crimes that are typically charged without more. usually, you charge these crimes because you're trying to bring someone down for something larger. >> is this a form of celebrity prosecution? >> i think this is gotcha prosecution. once you investigate, once you realize that this isn't about drugs, this isn't about terrorism, this isn't about money laundering, they typically drop these. that's where you have to wonder, does the underlying allegations on his part weigh into the prosecutor's decision? it shouldn't matter. it's hard to understand why you would charge in this case absent the fact that he's an incredibly famous, formerly powerful individual, and the underlying misconduct neither of which the federal authorities should be taking -- >> see a prosecution for extortion of individual a. >> that's the big question and this is one of those difficult choices prosecutors have to make. we don't know if he's going to be charged in connection with this case. i'd expect the result in this case that hastert wi because even though these charges that are typically you wouldn't see against someone else, it's going to be very hard to defend against. he's probably guilty of the crimes, but it doesn't mean he would have been charged if he was someone else. >> if he pleas can he avoid jail time? >> possibly. we'll turn now to the newest candidate for president, maryland's martin o'malley, he launched his challenge to hillary clinton yesterday. he starts out as a long, long shot. but as he told me, he believes that many democrats are looking for a fresh candidate. >> i declare that i am a candidate for the president of the united states! >> why you why now? >> because i believe our country is facing some deep challenges and i believe that we're not going to overcome our problems without new leadership. so, what i offer in this race, george, is 15 years of executive experience. the most difficult challenge we face right now is restoring the truth of the american dream that we share, making wages go up and make our country work again and making our economy work for all of our people. >> we have had democratic presidents, 16 of the last 24 years, how would a martin o'malley's presidency be different from bill clinton's and barack obama's? >> because of president obama's choices we were able to avoid a second great depression. i guess i differ, i would say, from president obama in my background and my experience. his was that of a legislator. mine was of a big city and also facing divot challenges and also of a state that we had to lead through the recession and that's a big difference with his experience. >> also, it could be a double-edged sword, everyone has been focused on the issues of baltimore, the recent unrest, you were the mayor of baltimore for eight years, big drop in crime, but a lot of your critics say, your tenure sow the seeds of distress, i was struck by something that was said. he said that martin o'malley is going around baltimore is his claim to fame. i think this should be his greatest embarrassment. >> that's interesting. isn't it? for all of the progress we make, there's always so much more that needs to be done. i would haven't been reelected with 88% of the vote if we weren't making substantial progress. when i was elected in 1999, george, our city had become the most violent and addicted and abandoned city in america. it was a huge challenge. we went on in the next ten years to reduce crime. now, the city's population is growing again, with greater numbers of young people moving back here than before. but it's also true that we have huge pockets of poverty in our city and in other cities in the united states. and the anger that erupted in our city happened in some of the poorest, hardest-hit neighborhoods where unemployment is actually higher now than it was six years ago. i would be angry, too. a poet once wrote, the unemployment in our bones erupts in our hands and stones. we can do better as a country and we can't leave behind so many that are underemployed or unemployed or earning less than they were 12 years ago. >> in your speech today, you had some tough words for jeb bush and hillary clinton. >> the ceo of goldman sachs let his employees know that he would be just fine with either bush or clinton. i bet he would. well, i've got news for the bullies of wall street the presidency is not a crown to be passed back and forth by you, between two royal families. >> are you saying both bush and clinton are beholden of the bullyies of wall street? >> i'm saying we need new leadership to accomplish to rein in excesses on wall street. when you have a ceo telling his employees that he would be fine with either bush or clinton, that should tell all of us something. >> you don't see a difference? >> do i see a difference? sure i see many differences. but one of the most important differences when it comes to reining in wall street is who is on our side. >> do you think hillary clinton and jeb bush would have the same approach to wall street? >> i don't know what secretary clinton's approach to wall street might be. she will run her own campaign and i will run mine. i can tell you this, i'm not beholden to wall street interest and one more difference, the president's controversial pacific trade agreement. o'malley staked his claim. hillary clinton hasn't weighed in. do you think she'll be for it? >> she's been silent. i haven't been silent. i'm opposed to it. we shouldn't be in a race for the cheapest labor in the world. it hurts our economy. >> secretary clinton also faces questions about her e-mail account and her foundation. that something that voters should be worried about? >> she's capable of defending herself. she has had a very, note-worthy career of public service to our country. i think we should focus on the ideas. >> president obama had some fun at your experience. >> martin o'malley going completely unrecognized at a martin o'malley campaign event. >> i was there. >> well you know i don't know what your reaction to the joke was. >> he's sitting on a real problem, you're 1% in the pools before. your path to victory? >> i think the presidential primary process and the caucuses in iowa have a certain greatness to them and it is this, that people there have seen 1% candidates before get into the van go from county to county. make their case about their better choices they would offer the nation and suddenly become very well known overnight when people make up their mind. >> how do you get into the poll position right now? bernie sanders has kind of shot up in both the national polls in iowa and new hampshire the last few weeks, that's a challenge to your candidacy. >> well, i think it's an encouragement to my candidacy and for this reason, i think the public is looking for new leadership, leadership that doesn't apologize for having progressive values. >> why should progressive voters pick you over bernie sanders? >> because i have a track record of actually getting things done. >> you're heading to iowa now. >> heading to iowa now and then new hampshire. and coming up, two republican senators live this morning, dr. ben carson now at the top of the pack and bobby jindal weighing his own moves. we're back in two minutes. eighing his own moves. we're back in two minutes. the network that monitors her health. the secure cloud services that store her genetic data the servers and software on a mission to find the perfect match. and the mom who gets to hear her daughter's heart beat once again. we're helping organizations transform the way they work so they can transform the lives of the people they serve. introducing light & fit protein shakes the new way to help make temptations shrink away. with 12 grams of protein, 5 grams of fiber and 0% fat. new light & fit protein shakes. taste the power of satisfaction. 40% of the streetlights in detroit, at one point, did not work. you had some blocks and you had major thoroughfares and corridors that were just totally pitch black. those things had to change. we wanted to restore our lighting system in the city. you can have the greatest dreams in the world, but unless you can finance those dreams, it doesn't happen. at the time that the bankruptcy filing was done, the public lighting authority had a hard time of finding a bank. citi did not run away from the table like some other bankers did. citi had the strength to help us go to the credit markets and raise the money. it's a brighter day in detroit. people can see better when they're out doing their tasks, young people are moving back in town the kids are feeling safer while they walk to school. and folks are making investments and the community is moving forward. 40% of the lights were out, but they're not out for long.they're coming back. roundtable coming up, going to weigh in on martin o'malley, all this week's new presidential candidates and more coming up in the week ahead. week's new presidential candidates and more coming up in the week ahead. but did you know we also support hospitals using electronic health records for more than 30 million patients? 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>> the cleveland police department has accepted tough enforcement on the use of force there in cleveland. as you know that city along with baltimore and along with many others, have been ravaged by an outbreak of unarmed, usually black people being assaulted or killed by the police and, in your interview with martin o'malley, there of course in baltimore, he defends his record, but the reality is, the kind of overpolicing, inclination to be suspicious of so many african-american and poor people has led to what is essentially form of terror. >> that issue likely to play in the presidential race as well. our bloomberg political team mark halperin. >> lot of political news. the determination of the republican nominee, this week, tale of two polls, quinnipiac shows five republicans at 10% for each candidate. national numbers are interesting. what it highlights is it's a state by state race. our poll out this morning, scott walker with a big lead in iowa. no one is really a front-runner in new hampshire and south carolina. scott walker now is the person to bet in iowa and that's a big thing. >> john? >> i'm sticking with presidential politics, on the republican side, everybody hates rand paul and he loves it. which is this week, rand paul with his book coming out, getting a lot of controversy on the republican side, by saying that the creation of isis the republican policies had something to do it. he's been criticized with everyone else in the field. it's really important for rand paul. it highlights the larger debate that's going to run throughout the republican nominee fight. >> he's on the senate floor today. we'll talk about that later. we're just getting started right now. ben carson and bobby jindal up next. but first, our powerhouse puzzleer. inspired by this week's spelling bee. this year, it was another tie. was another tie. when you do business everywhere, the challenges of keeping everyone working together can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. with the tools and the network you need to make working as one easier than ever. virtually anywhere. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. attention. did you or anyone in your household work around asbestos-containing gaskets and packing? 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blaming republicans for growth of isis. >> that certainly would not be my take on it. i believe we kind of stirred things up when we went in there, but we stirred them up even worse when we left there and left an unstable situation. >> and you have said that you would haven't gone in iraq in the first place, is there a carson doctrine when you would force as president? what conditions must be meant when commander in chief ben carson would send troops? >> clearly, it has to be in the interest of america and the american people. and, you know, in that particular case back in 2003, i didn't see that necessarily as being in our interest, i do however see what's going on now as being in our interest, because as isis is growing and some of the other radical jihadists, their intention is to destroy us and our way of life and that's a very situation. >> would you go as far as other republicans, like rick santorum, former senator, he would put 10,000 troops on the ground. >> if it was necessary, i would do it in consultation with som of our top military people who i think have been in some degree disregard. >> where did you stand on the nsa program? >> i certainly believe that there is a correlation between some of the steps that have been taken since 9/11 and the fact that we haven't had other major insults. having said that, i think we really have to protect the constitution and the fourth amendment. there are aspects of the patriot act, the massive metadata collection, probably are not necessary -- >> you support rand paul on this? >> no, the data is already collected. and i think that's good by the phone companies. and we have a process whereby a warrant can be gotten if one is suspicious. >> okay and i want to z you have about this kind of a surprise rise in the poll, showing you tied for first place nationally, you're doing quite well in iowa, you also won the straw poll at the southern leadership conference just last week, so, do you consider yourself a front-runner now and how are you going to build on it? >> whether or not i'm a front-runner doesn't matter, what matters is, the people themselves are starting to listen and evaluate for themselves. this country is really centered around the people, they're supposed to be at the pinnacle, they're not supposed to be manipulated by pundits and various people saying, this is the one you feed to listen to and i think that's very encouraging. >> are you starting to believe that you can be president? >> i certainly believe that is a possibility. that will be left up to the people after they can listen carefully to the plans. >> you're doing something unusual for declaring candidate for president, continue to give paid speeches. so, how are you going to keep that from happening? what safeguards do you have in place? >> certainly, i was asked by some political people to just cancel those speeches, i only have about four left and i had hundreds of speeches. but, you know, when people have gone through a lot of trouble getting sponsors, and selling tables and what have you, you just don't walk out on them. i think that is horrible. and when it comes to giving back, charitable donations, i would match myself against anyone. >> so, after those four speeches you will stop? >> i haven't accepted any more paid speeches for many many months. i won't be accepting others. >> thank you for joining us this morning. >> absolutely. another republican looking hard at the race, louisiana governor bobby jindal, he joins us right now. governor, thank you for joining us. you heard ben carson on rand paul, you were even tougher on senator paul this week saying it's impossible to imagine a president paul defeating radical islam. if that's the case, will you refuse to support rand paul if he's your party's nominee? >> george, thank you for having me this morning. i don't think it's going to come to that, i don't think he'll be our party's nominee. i was surprised that it was a republican -- listen to what he said, he said isis exists because of foreign policy hawks in the republican party, george, that is nonsense. isis is evil. isis exists because of radical islam -- it's radical islam terrorism. no one is to blame for the existence of isis, that is reckless, that is almost bizarre rhetoric coming from somebody auditioning to president. >> what would you do to defeat them right now? >> first of all, we need a commander in chief who's honest with us. and tell us the real enemy we face. for some reason, he doesn't want to say the words radical islamic terrorist. we need to take the political handcuffs off of our military advisers, the president for example right now has gone to congress saying, giving authorization of military force with a three-year deadline with a ban on ground troops. that's ridiculous. let's not tell the enemy what we will or will not do. let's provide arms to the kurds. that we're serious about defeating this enemy. this president with his failed red line with assad for example in syria, discouraged sunni allies in the region to help us. destroying their ability to hold ground in iraq and syria and build the so-called caliphate. >> rand paul's team hit back pretty hard at you this week, calling you a flip-flop on common core, saying you created your state's economy and budget, your response? >> look, we have cut our budget, we measure our success by the success of our people not the success of government. our economy has grown twice as fast as the national economy. three times as fast job creation. i think the senator a little sensitive. the reality is, we have had a one-term senator from the democratic party who wanted to retreat from the war, project america weakness. we don't need to replace him with a one-term republican senator who also wants to project that weakness. you see russia on the march in the eastern ukraine. you see china on the rise in asia. this is what happens when america tries to retreat from the world. we need peace through strength. we're not going to defeat evil through weakness. unfortunately, senator paul doesn't seem to understand that. >> i know you said you're going to decide about your own run next month, i wonder if you're being overtaken by events. the field continues to grow every single day. you don't seem to be getting any traction. the latest poll out of iowa, you're tied for 14th. is it too late? >> no, george, a couple of things, on the republican side, this will be an earned nomination. unlike the democratic side this is not a coronation. s want a big change. they want a president -- not only a republican president, someone who's going to rescue the american dream from becoming the european nightmare. president obama is drowning us in debt, more government dependence, more regulations and more taxes. that's not the american dream. we need a president who's going to make big changes. i am the only potential presidential candidate that has offered detailed policy on health care, foreign policy, energy and education. we're offering detailed ideas about how to get rid of obamacare. >> how do you see ben carson doing so well, what does that tell you about gop primary voters are looking for? >> a couple of things. i'm still biased towards governors. i think those who have run something, we're better qualified. we have had two terms of a president who needed on the job training, we can't afford that again. but the great thing is, this will ultimately be up to the voters. i think that in this election, on the republican side, they're not going to commit too late, they're going to want to kick the tires. every politician says this is the most important election of our lifetime. they want somebody who can actually govern and can make big changes. george, if we don't shrink the size of the federal government, it's going to overtake our economy. we have done that in louisiana. incomes aren't rising. we don't see the real growth rate. that we really deserve as the country. >> governor, it sounds to me like you're ready to get in. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you, george. up next, time for our roundtable to weigh in. we're going to be right back. weigh in. we're going to be right back. back with the roundtable. let's talk about these new candidates. mark haleprin from bloomberg, let me begin with you. you thought that martin o'malley gave a strong speech yesterday. what is his play here? >> i think both martin o'malley and bernie sanders have earned a part of the debate to be the democratic nominee. they answer a lot of questions. until secretary clinton shows that she's willing to engage in the debate, take positions and talk to democrats about issues they care about -- >> she hasn't taken a position yet on that trade agreement. >> or on the pipeline. >> john, he mentioned bernie sanders as well, he seems to ahve quite a hold on democratic voters, big crowds in new hampshire, how much of that is a challenge to o'malley? >> sanders, six months ago, if you said would bernie sanders become the primary alternative to hillary clinton, no one would have said that's possible. he has strong economic proposals. that are very appealing to the poup list far left wing of the party. o'malley seemed to be trying to position himself just a step to the left of clinton. it's not clear there's a lot of room there. how does martin o'malley find a place on that spectrum? >> kristen, do you think republicans are looking at this and rooting for o'malley and sanders? the better they do the more they push clinton to the left. >> i don't think republicans are terribly worried about the effect that martin o'malley will have on at least their chances to take the white house in 2016. whether it's the effect on clinton or him being the nominee himself. i think the challenge martin o'malley is going to have, he wants to position himself as acceptable to the establishment -- alternative to sanders. he's far outside the main stream. he's trying to strike that middle ground. the question is, is his record as governor of maryland or as mayor of baltimore something that will give him a lot to run on? right now, maryland is a very democratic state. they just elected a republican. the candidate for the governor's office ran against martin o'malley's record. >> he's pressing that experience hard in the interview, talking about a new generation, giving progressives a choice, michael. >> it seems. if you're the acceptable face of the left, because bernie sanders is too much to the left for you and hillary clinton is further to the right, especially on foreign policy, you're in a tough position, because then you've got to figure out, as john said, how to make that sale. bernie sanders is proving that there's a lot of socialist in the republican -- >> they might not admit it. >> they won't admit it. >> let's talk about the republicans right now. john, you talked about rand paul. is that coming at a price for rand paul the better he does later on the more people will look at those positions and say, he can't be the republican nominee? >> the positions he's advocating are considerably to the left of where the republican foreign policy establishment is. the open question is, where the actual base of the party is, and there's no -- if rand paul is going to be successful, partly by attracting independents. >> and getting his dad's voters back. >> and then appealing to independents. in iowa, he's strong. then tapping in at the base level, the more skeptical about foreign entanglements. that view is out there. in the republican electorate. >> i want to bring up that bloomberg poll again, i want to show it on the screen. mark you were talking about before how scott walker, the clear leader. ben carson and rand paul. jeb bush down there at 9% tied with mike huckabee. you dig deeper into that poll he still has that problem that he has republicans saying, they don't want to vote for him no matter what. >> favorable/unfavorable. he has the highest unfavorables among republicans. they saw our poll and they say, there's a static snapshot of where we are today. they'll have over $100 million to spend not only to raise him up but take down other republicans. what's important for him, everyone needs a state to win. this is going to be a lot fight. if scott walker has with iowa, what does jeb bush have? >> that's the question. kristen, marco rubio a strong claim to south carolina, it really leaves jeb bush with new hampshire, his father and his brother both had some trouble there. >> this is still going to be a crowded field by the time you get to new hampshire. you'll have to put early points on the board in order to stay in this. the challenge burn has right now is, he has to figure out what his coalition looks like. take rand paul, it's very clear who the rand paul voter is, same with ted cruz. jeb bush has to come out with his message and what that coalition of voters is in order to combat some of the things that you found in the poll. >> and one of the other things that republicans are banking on, michael eric dyson, is that hillary clinton's baggage is going to start to weigh her down, how concerned are democrats getting about that? >> i don't think terribly too concerned. look, she's been vetted already. she has a lot of practice in trust. the problem is, you know, the question is, will she wait too late to be able to weigh in, leverage the authority that she's accumulated over the years? she's celebrating the fact that all of the republicans are jumping in, i mean, when you got a guy like rand paul a libertarian, he can sound like george wallace in one beat and norm in the other beat. alleviating some of the concern about hillary on the left. >> nagging problems -- >> for hillary clinton? well, there are substantive issues that she has to address in campaign. i tried to get answers this week about president's finances. i never dealt with a campaign that's unresponsive, they said we'll get you those answers and then simply don't. for a major campaign that's well staffed, i have never encountered that. i think that suggests they don't want to answer the questions. in the short term, most democrat strategists say that's the right thing to do. it's not hurting her poll numbers. >> you're nodding your head. >> they're trying to power through this. but i think it's coming at some cost. i do think, contrary to what michael eric dyson said, i think there's -- not a bubbling over, democrats aren't handling these things well. these stories keep building on themselves and could be problem mat nick the general election. >> we'll have to stop there. thank you all very much. for the last five years some of america's wealthiest families have been leading a new philanthropic movement, it's called the giving pledge, its goal -- to channel the billions held by the richest of the rich, back to the people who need it most. abc's rebecca jarvis sat down with the pledge founders, warren buffett and bill and melinda gates to track the progress. >> reporter: they hang out with rock stars. even presidents. >> he's so thrifty i had to give him a white house tie. when bill gates came he wanted one, too. >> reporter: but for the past five years, these billionaires have focused on a remarkable mission -- giving away their massive fortunes to charity. you decided to give away 99%. of your wealth. >> other people can buy vacsiecine vaccines. it can buy education. besides, you know, 20 years from now, i'll be in a place where there will be no form 400. >> reporter: we visited warren buffett and bill and melinda gates to talk about the giving pledge and the challenges ahead. >> i have been amazed. how receptive people have been. >> reporter: what began as 40 billionaires pledging to donate at least half their money has tripled. 135 individuals from 14 countries. a total of $1 trillion in commitments from the likes of facebook's mark zuckerberg richard branson. >> these people are giving a minimum of 500 -- >> reporter: you're surprised? >> i have got an fair number of nos. >> we had no idea that we would get this many people to come together. >> reporter: tackling issues like poverty, education and disease, where they have seen considerable success. >> polio is likely to become the second disease ever eradicated and then we'll take that success and go after other diseases like malaria. we expect to cut the number of children who die, which is 6 million a year in half over this next 15 years. >> reporter: what has the most pressing urgent need today? >> how do we empower women and girls, they're at the center of the families. >> reporter: of the world's 1800 billionaires, 7% have signed the pledge, getting more new faces onboard, particularly international donors is a top priority. i do want to hear the elevator pitch. what do you say? >> i just say, hi, rebecca, what are you thinking about doing with all of that wealth that you got? you're not going to live forever. do you really think your children are going to be better off if they each have $500 million -- >> reporter: the pledge is not a legally binding document. those who take it can give today or put it in their will. >> you can't really say to people, give it all away while you're alive, because you don't know how long you're going to live. the sooner the better. encouraging people that it's fun. as warren likes to say, the younger you are and more vibrant and clever about your giving you'd like to be. he has a more colorful -- >> if i get some 75-year-old saying he'll think about it later, you know, i ask him, do you think you can come with a better decision when you're 95 years old? >> reporter: the newest member to join the pledge is just 43, the founder of chobani yogurt. he has an estimated $1.4 billion. >> when i get to know what bill gates do and warren buffett, i wanted to do the same way that they did. >> reporter: his charity will go toward helping refugees around the world. >> you can save a life, you can make somebody's life better. why put it somewhere and wait for 70 years while you can do it right now. >> reporter: how has it changed philanthropy and giving in this country? >> to do it at a younger age and to be more bold, because they find people with similar causes in mind. >> i want people to say that it's the right thing to do. >> reporter: for "this week," rebecca jarvis, abc news, new york. >> thanks to rebecca for that. and finally in this week's spotlight, bob schieffer anchoring his final report. what a stellar career. over five decades at cbs news, he's done it all. interviewing every president since nixon. anchoring presidential debates and the evening news. congratulations, bob, you have done it all. you have done it so well. and you'll be missed. that's all for us today. thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. check out "world news tonight" and i'll see you tomorrow on "gma." check out "world news tonight" and i'll see you tomorrow on "gm "gma." there are a lot of channels on your tv but only so many you want to watch what if you could pay for the types of channels you want and not the ones you don't w, fios brings you a totally new way to customizyour tv. starting at $74.99 per month with no annual contract. get custom tv, including internet and phone. price guaranteed for two years. or from now until june 8th get a $400 visa prepaid card when you sign a two-year agreement. go to getfios.com. cable just gives you channels. fios gives you choice. call the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800.974.6006 tty/v