Joce kevin davis is baltimores police commissioner. Comm. Davis were never going to reach that point where 100 of the population loves the police. Joce gone now are strategies like stop and frisk and zero tolerance policing. Heather macdonald cops are backing off of proactive policing in high crime areas and, as a result, Violent Crime is rising at a dramatic rate. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] sharyl welcome to full measure. Im sharyl attkisson. Its perhaps one of the most important and pitched battles of our time the battle to control information and sway Public Opinion. What can you believe . Whos telling the truth . Whats real . To historic lows since gallup first asked the question in 1972. 68 of americans saying they trust the media not very much or none at all. Thats up eight points in a year. And the web is a freeforall where news is faked and popular sites are routinely subject to manipulation or censorship. Today, we investigate efforts to control the sum of all knowledge. As a donald trump supporter, andrew torba felt like odd man out in californias Silicon Valley, home of prominent tech firms like apple, facebook, and google. Last year, he was outraged when he attended this Campaign Rally in san jose and saw violent antitrump protesters attacking trump supporters. Did you post these feelings online . Andrew torba yes. Sharyl on what . Andrew on facebook, on twitter, i wrote a blog about into any of the issues or anything, i was automatically labeled a racist, a bigot, etc. , etc. Venture capitalists, people that i respected and had worked with on a very close level, just wrote me off completely and blacklisted me completely. Sharyl torba is now living in selfimposed exile in texas fighting what he sees as growing control of information online. Hes started his own version of twitter called gab. What was the idea behind it . Andrew the idea behind it is that news, information, and communication is really monopolized on the internet by a select group of people, about four or five leaders in one of the most progressive cities in the world with some of the most progressive workers in the world. And what i saw happening as a conservative in Silicon Valley was an agenda being pushed and the conservative side and conservative ideas being suppressed. Sharyl its not only conservatives ke underway to control information. Liberals and nonpartisans also complain of censorship, bias, and fake news. Were steeped in the most intense propaganda wars since world war two. The sign of a great fighter in the ring is, can he get up from the floor after being knocked down . London does this every morning. Sharyl thats when the nazis and the allies fought for their citizens hearts and minds, devising propaganda campaigns to demoralize the enemy. [speaking german] sharyl todays battleground in the information wars tv and the web. Islamic extremist terrorists openly recruit online. We are men honored with islam who climbed its peaks perform jihad, answering the call to unite under one flag. Sharyl and u. S. Officials say russian president Vladimir Putin exploited statecontrolled tv news to discredit Hillary Clinton. Polls nationwide trust Hillary Clinton. Sharyl covert warfare is also widely being waged by u. S. Political and corporate actors. When people get online every day and take part in social media or do searches for news, what is it you think they dont know . Matthew brown i dont think they know theyre being manipulated. Sharyl Matthew Brown is a data analyst who pierces the secrecy behind paid efforts to influence online. What areas of the internet are used to shape and manipulate opinions . Matthew everywhere social. Everywhere social means specific facebook pages, but it also means the comment sections in every major newspaper. Sharyl brown began investigating after his Health Insurance costs tripled and he commented about it on the Obamacare Facebook page. He got bombarded, he says, by digital activists disguised as ordinary people. Matthew digital activists are paid employees. Their purpose is to attack anyone whos posting something contrary to the view the page owner wants expressed. Sharyl brown decided to use Analysis Software to crunch the numbers. He evaluated 226,000 proobamacare posts made by 40,000 facebook profiles. What he found was remarkable. Matthew 60 of all the posts were made from 100 profiles, posting between the hours of 9 00 and 5 00 pacific time. Sharyl which means what . Matthew they were paid to post. Sharyl brown says its rampant on social media. One popular tool zombie profiles that make automated robo posts. Matthew a zombie post is a fake, purchased, or rented facebook profile thats expressing the views of an organization as if it was his or her own. But, when in reality, the comment being expressed is done on software and written by generally one or two people. So, the zombie posts will go out on a schedule and then they are supported by zombie likes. Sharyl is there any reason to believe republicans dont do the same thing, and corporations, as well . Matthew theres no reason to doing it. Sharyl even the government is in the game. Leaked emails show the feds seeking persona management, software to allow 10 personas per user. They talk of creating an army of fake social media profiles maintained by actors gaming to hide their true location, and using tricks to add a level of realness to all fictitious personas. Campaign 2016 brought higher stakes and a new name to internet efforts to manipulate Public Opinion fake news. Unsubstantiated rumors about both donald trump and Hillary Clinton went viral. There was pizzagate, which claimed Clinton Associates were running a child sex ring from a pizza parlor. Trump was accused in a case of child rape. In october, president obama unveiled a push to curate the news. President obama we are going to have to rebuild within this wildwildwest of information flow some sort of curating function that people agree to. Sharyl the news media quickly joined the president s call. After a man motivated by pizzagate rumors fired a gun in the pizza parlor, clinton added her voice to the cause. Hillary clinton it is now clear that socalled fake news can have real world consequences. This is not about politics or partisanship. Lives are at risk, lives of ordinary people just trying to go about their days to do their jobs, contribute to their communities. Its a danger that must be addressed and addressed quickly. Sharyl facebook announced an initiative to stop fake news. The head of the leftwing Group Media Matters told donors the group played a Critical Role in forcing facebooks hand. But the fix involved using Fact Checkers that many conservatives see as biased. Conservatives point to fake news in the mainstream media, like the false report claiming trump had removed a bust of civil rights leader Martin Luther king from the white house. President trump zeke, from time magazine, writes a story about, i took down i would never do that, because i have Great Respect for dr. Martin luther king. But this is how dishonest the media is. Sharyl more on this when we return. Are social media sites controlling what you see online . When you type Hillary Clinton ind into bing or yahoo , there are plenty of indictmentbased recommendations. When you type it into google, [ alarm clock beeping weather. [ laughter ] cartoons. Wait for it. [ cat screech ] [ laughter ] [ screaming ] [ laughter ] make everyday awesome with the power of xfinity x1. Hi grandma and the fastest internet. [ girl screaming ] [ laughter ] sharyl more than ever, powerful interests are working every day to control information and sway Public Opinion. And with the internet and social media, they have infinite ways to do it. The sudden emergence of fake news as a hot topic is an outgrowth of those efforts. But whoever thought that sorting out fake news would be easy was mistaken. What do you define as fake news . Susan glasser well, as a term, right . Its like any term and in fact now you see partisans of both parties appropriating and using this label merely to apply it to news that they dont like. Sharyl Susan Glasser was editor of the leftleaning politico during the 2016 campaign. Susan so what started out as a panic over fake news and what role it had in undermining Hillary Clintons candidacy and promoting Donald Trumps candidacy, by the way is now a label that donald trump master marketer has seen is a powerfu label so hes appropriated that and slapped that label on stories that he merely doesnt like. President trump you are fake news. Go ahead. Susan its not that it didnt exist before, but americans used to know the difference between the National Enquirer at the checkout counter and the new york times. Sharyl public suspicion and allegations of bias hound the most pervasive internet players twitter, google, and facebook. Google has actively been altering search recommendations in favor of sharyl during the president ial campaign, critics discovered a Google Search for Hillary Clinton indictment, typing in ind didnt suggest indictment. When you type Hillary Clinton ind into bing or yahoo , there are plenty of indictmentbased recommendations. When you type it into google, the top two recommended autocompletions are Hillary Clinton indiana and Hillary Clinton india. Sharyl as it happens, googles parent company, alphabet, was a top clinton donor. Its chief executive worked on the clinton campaign. Last year, former facebook insiders alleged they r suppressed news stories of interest to conservative readers. We hear from a lot of people that they dont trust politico or facebook or google or whoever it might be thats trying to sort through the truth or the facts. Susan were looking at a crisis of faith in institutions. The media, being one set of institutions that is under assault. More broadly, Political Parties you know, no longer have the trust and the faith. Sharyl torba claims twitter censors conservatives, but not liberals for similar behavior. On gab, anything goes, he says, as long as its legal, not inciting violence, and not exposing information like credit cards. Mr. Torba what were doing is instead of us playing big brother and, you know, curating content and deciding what is news and what isnt and what people should see and what they shouldnt, we are giving the power to you as a user, so you can mute different words, trends, hashtags, phrases, topics, and users. Sharyl because of gabs anticensorship policy, its attracted plenty of detestable users. Some blogs call it twitter for racists and the altrights very own twitter. Mr. Torba the media likes to label us as altright or theyve said, you know, nazi twitter or the twitter for racists. I find it, you know, really funny because we have one of the most diverse starting teams of all time. So we have my cofounder who is a turkish kurd and hes also muslim. We have our chief Communications Officer who is based in canada, who is an indian and a practicing hindu. Sharyl if theres ultimate truth in the debate over manipulation of information, it may be found in asking not what can you believe, but who wants you to believe it, and why . Do you favor censoring information that someone has decided is untrue or may blatantly be untrue so that the public cant access it online . Susan i dont. I think that would be a terrible mistake. We have to find a way for truth to regain its value in our public discourse, i think, and thats not about stopping people from what is untrue. Its about finding ways to reinvigorate the conversation around which is true and to find out that which those are powerful dont want us to know. Sharyl what would your advice be to somebody whos taking part, either in social media or looking for information on the web . Mr. Brown my advice would be not to believe any of it. Take it all with a grain of salt. Sharyl representatives from google, facebook, and twitter declined our interview requests. If this interests you, these are some of the topics i take on in my new book coming out in june. The smear how fake news and shady political operatives control what you see, what you think and, how you vote. Next on full measure. Restoring law and order, it was a Campaign Promise by candidate trump. But how have local Police Tactics changed with officers under attack by both domestic terrorists and the media . Comm. Kevin davis we have been policing in a way over the past you know, ten, twentyplus years that has really upset the community, and its really driven a big gap between the Police Department and the community. Heather macdonald cops are backing off of proactive policing in high crime areas and, as a result, Violent Crime is rising at a dramatic rate. Sharyl conflicts between communities and police have erupted into riots in recent years, prompting headlines and intervention from the federal government. Its changed the way police go about their business. But if the duty of the police is to protect and to serve is the change making us safer . Given some of the numbers, that answer may be no. According to a report from the fbi, Violent Crime is up significantly last year over 2015, up in all cities by over 6 in one year alone. President trump has promised a new law and order. Our joce sterman takes a look at the new policing in america. Joce ferguson, missouri. In the summer of 2014, riots erupted after the shooting of Michael Brown by a police officer. It also triggered a vigorous and sometimes violent debate over the relationship between police and minorities. In april of 2015, baltimore erupted in riots after the death of a black suspect in police custody. The death of freddie gray unleashed weeks of fury. Comm. Kevin davis its one person at a time, one day at a time. Joce kevin davis is baltimores police commissioner. He was promoted to the job in 2015, after the riots and immediately faced calls for a change in Police Tactics. Comm. Davis theres never going to be a final chapter to all this, you know. Were never going to reach that point where 100 of the population loves the police. Joce in baltimore, changing tactics wasnt completely a matter of choice. The city and department of justice agreed to sweeping Police Reforms to stop overly aggressive tactics and restore trust in city cops. Comm. Davis weve been policing in a way over the past you know, ten, twentyplus years that has really upset the community, and its really driven a big gap between the Police Department and the community. Joce gone now are strategies like stop and frisk and zero tolerance policing. The doj claims those and other tactics have created problems in two dozen cities. Comm. Davis any community, no matter where you are, wants its Police Department to lock up bad guys. Murderers, rapists, robbers, burglars, thieves, arsonists. Theres really no question about that, but when it comes to some of the discretionary enforcement efforts that our profession has engaged in all too often, that i think were making our way away from, its those discretionary enforcement efforts and initiatives, particularly in in africanamerican and underserved communities that have really upset entire communities. Heather macdonald cops are backing off of proactive policing in high crime areas, and as a result, Violent Crime is rising at a dramatic rate. Joce heather macdonald, author of the book the war on cops, says police cant afford to back off too much. Heather after the riots in baltimore, the freddie gray riots, Drug Enforcement just ended in baltimore and shootings went through the roof. Recently, a pew poll came out of officers, 72 said that they less likely now to make pedestrian stops, to engage in proactive policing. Arrests are down in los angeles, theyre certainly down in new york. Joce there are consequences. In 2015, fbi stats show the biggest jump in homicides in years. Twentyfive of americas largest cities up drastically. One of them, chicago, has become a murder capital. The city had more than 750 homicides last year and arrests were down. Heather that is a very, very bad sign because the lawabiding residents of high crime areas beg the police for public order enforcement. But when the elites, when the mainstream media, when the white house is sending the message that that type of policing is racist, we shouldnt be surprised when cops back off. And when they do, again, its minority lives that suffer. Mr. Trump law and order must be restored. Joce thencandidate trump called for change. With Jeff Sessions as attorney general, many see a police first mentality likely to return to the department of justice. Pres. Trump more law enforcement, more community engagement, more effective policing is what our country needs desperately. Joce but at the local level, words matter. I need help. Comm. Davis were here to help you. Joce leaders like davis talk about the danger of phrases like law and order that can be taken as a threat. Like were going to come in here and crack skulls . Comm. Davis yep. Joce so does that hurt you when that is said, were a law and Order Adminis