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in chief. plus, is russia trying to disrupt the u.s. elections? >> we will not ignore attempts to interfere with our democratic processes. >> we'll ask our sunday panel what could happen in november. and our power player of the week, nfl quarterback kirk cousins playing for a lot more than winning games. >> god wired me to be a leader and to want to impact people. >> all right now on "fox news sunday." news in washington. today marks 15 years since the worst terror attack on u.s. soil. once again we pause to reflect on those who died and in less than two months we go to the polls to choose our next commander in chief. in a moment we'll speak with secretary of homeland security jeh johnson about the threat the nation faces now, but first we take you to ground zero in manhattan where family members almost 3,000 people who lost their lives that terrible day. they're about to mark the moment when the second plane hit the world trade center's south tower. >> craig michael blass. >> vitablaus. >> michael ba card did i. >> john paul bottinno. >> michael >> susan m.bottino. >> vieira francis bodily. >> bruce douglas boehm. >> mary katherine murphy bolka. >> nicholas andrew bogden. >> darryn christopher bohan. >> lawrence francis bodeau. >> vincent m.bolan jr. >> tori balarky. >> andre benar jr. >> collin arthur bonnet. >> frank j.bonamo. >> yvon bonomo. >> sean booker sr. >> can field d. -- >> earlier i spoke with secretary of homeland security jeh johnson about the threats we still face 15 years after 9/11. secretary johnson, thank you for talking with us. 9/11, how would you characterize the threat to the u.s. homeland right now? >> chris, we are stronger against another 9/11 style terrorist directed attack over seas. our government has become pretty good at deteching something hatched from overseas, launched overseas. our intelligence community is pretty good at picking that up. is with the lone wolf style attack. the self-radicalized actor. terrorist organizations have the ability to into our home and through the internet and recruit and inspire. that's a relatively new environment and requires a whole of government response. >> i want to try, if i can, sir, to break down the threat, and let me put a couple of things up on the screen. terrorists now have a greater safe haven in isis than they've had any time since 9/11. the f 900 active investigations against lone wolves and other suspects in all 50 states. a test last year found tsa screeners missed weapons 95% of the time. last year almost 500,000 people overstayed their visas and the number of african and asian migrants trying to cross the border is rising. secretary johnson, i don't have safety net. >> a couple of things, chris. first, our u.s. military, along with our international partners, as we speak, is taking back territory from isol in iraq/syria. we've taken out a number of the leaders, those focused on external attacks. you're correct to note the number of open pending investigations by the fbi here in the homeland. the fbi's become pretty good when it comes to their counter terrorism capability detecting e aviation security, tsa is actually stronger now in my view than it was a year ago after those horrible i.g. test results. as you know, we've replaced the tsa, hired a new one, pete neffenger. we were challenged earlier this summer. we're investing in more aviation in terse of the southwest 3w0irder i just recently asked for them to focus on immigrants coming illegally from other hemispheres from the middle east, protect them, block them before they get to the homeland working with governments in south america, central america to prevent that from happening. you're correct we're seeing illegal migrants coming from africa, coming from the middle east. and happening before they reach the southwest border. >> so bottom line, is the threat we face now worse or less serious than during 9/11 because the chairman of the 9/11 commission, tom keane and lee hamilton, say they think it's worse. >> we're stronger when it comes to preventing against a 9/11 style attack. we very plainly have a serious who self-radicalize. that's a relatively new phenomenon that we've got to protect against. the public can play a role. a lot of people are working hard to protect against it. it's still here and will be here for a while, chris. >> i want to turn to russian hacking into our political system, democr and at least two states, arizona and illinois. do you believe that the russians are trying to undermine confidence in our democratic processes and what is the possibility that they could actually disrupt the vote count in november? >> first, there's an open investigation into the dnc hack, into various intrusions that we've seen into state election to alter a ballot count, alter how we tabulate votes in this country in part because the system is so decentralized. there are 9,000 jurisdictions involved in the process. i've been sending the message that my department, our cyber security experts, are in a position to help them further secure their presence on the internet where it exists. we're in the midst of having that conversation literally between now and november 8th and beyond. >> mr. secretary, does it bother you when you hear a major american political figure say that vladimir putin is more of a leader than president obama? >> well, chris, i don't comment on what the political candidates say this election season. i think we have to be extremely about foreign leaders, republicans and democrats on both sides of the aisle have a lot of concerns about what vladimir putin is up to, so i think we need to be careful in our rhetoric, and that's -- that's a non-partisan bipartisan statement, chris. >> let me ask you about another non-partisan bipartisan issue. in july of last year you stopped using your government computer for personal e-mails and banned all homeland security officials from doing the same. question. why? >> well, accessing your personal e-mail online on a desktop at work is not a cyber security best practice. and so in homeland security, certainly in the leadership of homeland security we've got to set the example. we've got to be a model in terms of best practices. material you receive is classified whether or not it's marked, whether or not there's a header? do you know simply from the content and do you feel an obligation to protect classified material regardless of the marking? >> well, i certainly feel an obligation to protect classified material regardless of the marking. from my department of defense days i think i can recognize it. in fact, very often when a skiff talking with my people i question whether something has been correctly classified based upon what i'm reading, based upon the subject of what i'm reading. classified material should be on a wholly separate system, separate and apart from the unclassified daily e-mail traffic that we see on our official networks. >> finally, sir, you were a lawyer working in new york city on 9/11. is your birthday. i wonder, what is your central memory from that terrible day and how does it shape the way you approach your job as the secretary of homeland security? >> well, thanks for asking. i was a lawyer in private law practice here in manhattan on 9/11, 2001. i had just left the pentagon nine months earlier as general practice for the airport. first of all, everyone recalls how beautiful a day i recall a real feeling of guilt that i had left public service. i wanted to be back at the pentagon where it was going to be all hands on deck. i remember coming down to a street to give them blood. you were either dead or you escaped. chris, i've dedicated myself over the last nearly eight years now in defense and homeland homeland security threats, making us safer and improving our national security. thanks for asking. >> mr. secretary, thank you for talking with us what i know is for all of us a very difficult day. thank you, sir. >> thank you, sir. up next, hillary clinton and donald trump clash over national security. we'll bring in our sunday group to discuss the threats one of them will face as commander in chief. plus, what would you like to ask the panel nation is 15 years after 9/11? 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(announcer vo) so wherever work takes you, you can put your customers first. another way verizon connects your business better. a live look at the pentagon where a crowd is now gathering to remember the 189 people who lost their lives there on september 11th. and it's time now for our group. syndicated columnist george well, juan williams, julie pace who covers the white house and the campaign for the associated press. and washington examiner contributor lisa booth. george, there's so much more security in this country now than there was 15 years ago but the threat has also grown. bottom line, are we safer? >> i think we're probably safer from terrorism. there's an asterisk. began badly. then we begin to learn. and we've done a lot of learning about terrorism and as the secretary just stressed, we've made technological advancements. some of which we know, some of which we don't know. i think the world at large is less safe because the threat has metastasized and particularly because europe, with unassimilated communities of immigrants, is just more proximate to the caliphate, the isis caliphate than it was. that said, it seems to me america today is measurably less safe than it was 15 years ago for a number of reasons. putin is ram pant on russia dismantling the european nation threatening the balance particular states which are nato members. china is extremely aggressive which can be a threat at any point. north korea launches a missile iran is another regime we cannot read but are right to be worried about. the world is more ominous. >> we asked you for questions for the panel on this particular subject. we got this on facebook from paul wascoulgian. fascinating. i was in the world trade center for the bombing in 1993 and then again in the world financial center for the attacks on 9/11. the harsh reality is since 1993 not how do you answer paul? >> i think a lot has changed. some of the obvious things are obviously creation of the department of homeland security. you just heard chris's interview with secretary jeh johnson. homeland security is i think the third largest agency in government. trillions know that experience. what paul's talking about, chris, is something that's million americans think terrorists have more ability to attack us now than in 2001. you see this in our politics. politicians going for fear, concern, anxiety in their thinking. this is particularly true among republicans. over half think there's more chance of an attack. only 1/3 of independents and democrats. i would just point out again to paul, we've had the patriot act. the government has the ability to look at e-mail messages, we have troops stationed. we've degraded al qaeda. we've degraded isis. all of these things you'd see in a math attacks. i think there's less a chance. what you heard a few moments ago from george will, that in turns of the lone wolf attack, coming in terms of a threat from putin and china, yes, there's reason to have some sleepless nights. subject, particularly pow continue and the threat, and not necessarily the threat of terror but a different threat, and that is the threat of russian hacking of our american political system, both the democratic campaign organizations and apparently state electoral systems, at least in two states, arizona and illinois. julie, how seriously do they take this at the white house, the possibility that putin and the russians could be trying to disrupt our elections? what d to? >> i think they're taking it quite seriously. that's why you see them wait before they officially say this was russia. they want to make sure all the evidence is completeland and they have that all in hand. in terms of what they do, this is just such a complicated issue every time we deal with russia because one of your major tools is sanction. we're also trying to partner with russia in syria. you saw lavrov and kerry meeting the question of what russia is trying to do is fairly obvious. they are trying to create some sort of uncertainty in the election and in the process and ultimately in the results which if you -- >> to what end though? >> i don't know what end. i think the idea of creating chaos in american democracy might be the end because if you really think about this idea, no matter what happens in our electoral campaigns we generally are confident that the yom come is nervousness in the american population, maybe that is there end. >> i want to pick up on that with you, lisa, because the russians don't have to disrupt our elections if they just create doubt about the outcome, about the reliability of the vote count. they've kind of achieved their goal, haven't they? >> that's what they've done. this is russia attempting to flex its power and muscles in does not believe that russia could ultimately affect the outcome because the election outcome is so decentralized and vast. that being said, russia has been hacking eastern european banks prior. germany accused them of messing with them. russia is accused of knocking out power for 80,000 ukrainians. russia is the master of subversion and putin was a former kgb analyst. he knows that all too well. >> in ukraine in 2014, in fact, there was a russian effort to interrupt the electoral website before the presidential election. george, this effort would seem to be right out of the kremlin i think it's quite right. what they want to say is we have our problems in russia. we have orderly elections. so orderly we know the outcome before we have the elections. there is something wrong with the systems. to demoralize the united states, that is, to get people to think they have a government that is somehow tainted, legitimacy compromised by inadequacies is an inordinate benefit. >> it's putin believed that the united states and specifically hillary clinton helped try to work against him when he was running for election. do you think this was pay back in some sense both to the united states and to clinton? >> i don't know. i don't know whether we did that. i hope we did that because he was an extremely dangerous man. i don't think mr. putin needs motive. >> you were nodding your head. administration, neyeta was coming having lunch. they were hoping that in russia the population would want that. that has proven not to be true. yeah, there was a real effort to try to create another power center in russia. >> we have to take a break. see you a little later. up next, hillary clinton and donald trump engage on national security, and we'll continue the debate with two top who would make a better >> your families love and miss you. today we honor your memory and life and the lives of all who lost that day. >> observances continue at ground zero in new york city on this 15th anniversary of 9/11. as family members read the names of the were killed in four separate attacks. joining me now to discuss the new focus on national security, former speaker newt gingrich, one of trump's top advisors and clinton advocate congressman javier basara. welcome back. >> thank you. >> before we get to national security, i want to ask you both about remarks that clinton made at a fund-raiser in new york city on friday night. trump's supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables, right? the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic. you name. >> she says that half, half of trump's supporters are, not america. your reaction. >> she said she was generalizing but since then she says she regrets the comment about half. there are some, i don't think that anyone denies there are people there who are deplorable. the white supremacists, david dukes of the world who are supporting donald trump. the great thing is there's one made. but the more important thing is we never had a president who would be taking off from a position of hate and anger. i am a son of immigrants or women who are watching a candidate who has said deplorable things about women. i don't think what we want is someone who will get into office based on advocating, campaigning, and governing based on anger and hate. >> spea congressman mentioned, hillary clinton released a statement yesterday trying to clean this up. she says this, last night i was, quote, grossly general is tick and that's never a good idea. i regret saying half. that was wrong. does that make it any better? >> no. hillary is beginning to fall apart. she comes out of a terrible national security debate. she then says isis is praying for trump to win. she turns with this grow tess being statement which any reasonable person would if you're talking about 47% dependent on government, she just made a statement in which she lumped together millions of americans. those i think that was a deliberate statement on her part. she wants to pick a fight, that's fine. let's get sheriff clark, he can debate her on racracism. he can debate her on racism. the left has for years used vicious comments to block the discussion in the inner city. this is the same. >> congressman, looking at the record, she has made this comment, not necessarily half, but talked about trump supporters being this basket of deplorables. it's a line she's used supporting donald trump. they're deplorable. those who say anyone based on their religion should not be allowed to come to this country. they are deplorable. my father could not walk into a shop because of a sign that said no mexicans. he's american. we shouldn't have people who get elected to office based campaigning on anger and hate. newt, accept that she said i regret those remarks. at least she's willing to say that. >> but let me tell you -- >> finish talking. >> donald trump has repeatedly, explicitly repudiated david duke. that's a fact. donald trump has issued statement after statement. he's been on television saying this. this idea that donald trump is secretly courting people, that's wrong. trump goes to a black church in detroit to talk about the policies in the city. let's have a debate of the failure which leads to them yelling racist because if they can't smear trump -- >> gentlemen, i'm going to move on. >> he regrets that remark. >> they can keep talking. i will talk to you folks. let's turn to trump and his running mate and their continued support for russian president vladimir putin. here they are. >> it's a very different i don't happen to like the system, but certainly in that system he's been a leader, far more than our president has been a leader. >> i think it's inarguable that vladimir putin has been a stronger leader in his country than president obama has been in this country. >> we're talking about someone named putin who runs an oppressive regime, kills his opponents, invades other countries -- >> more effective. >> in achieving his goals. let's go back to this. >> he said he's been a leader far more than our president has been a leader. mike pence said vladimir putin has been a very strong leader in his country. >> he has been a very strong leader. george w. bush who said she got a button out of the hot that was her opening. let's go to this week where secretary kerry is sitting down trying to work out a deal in syria with the russians. let's go to iran where this -- >> but you can't be comfortable with this continued praise of vladimir putin. >> i'm not comfortable or unputin. i don't think our efforts to say bad things -- it's been pathetic. red line on syria, it didn't work. calling him names may not be the best strategy we have. >> let me bring you in, congressman bassara and respond that trump went on to rt, russian propaganda arm. here he is. >> tremendous dishon necessity. congressman, your reaction? >> how can you not feel for president at the same time he admonishes our generals, he criticizes our troops and he shames the families of american soldiers. he's running for the president of the united states, not president of russia. to me, it's not just deplorable, it's, again, a sign of how he campaigns and why so much of what he does is deplorable. putin more than getting americans to reframe him. >> come home. >> all of us at the table understand he appears on rt. >> he went on the larry king show. larry king has been an icon of american talk for 60 years. if larry king called up, oh, my god, this would help the russians, larry, old friend, of course i'll do your show. >> you don't think the allow that network to teleadvice anything people want, do you? >> i think it allows larry king. >> i want to move on to another subject. hillary clinton had yet another explanation this week for her mishandling of classified information on her private e-mail system. here is her latest defense and what fbi director comby had to says top secret, secret, confidential. none of the e-mails sent or received by me had such a header. >> even if information is not marked classified in an e-mail, participants who know it is still classified are still obligated to protect it. >> that's the fbi director saying it doesn't ma tefr whether it's classified is classified. >> you want to be careful. i believe the secretary says numerous times that she regrets she used a plastic use the big binder. >> she was defending her actions by saying there wasn't a header. >> the reason she's not going to be prosecuted, chris, is because >> would you agree with the header, we talked about this with second johnson, doesn't matter. >> i, too, have reviewed classified information. it typically has a very bolt and obvious header that says classified. what she is saying is the documents that may have passed along the way did the -- they agree there was not information that boldly -- he said she did not have criminal intent. he didn't say -- i want to bring this up to you because this is the classified nondisclosure agreement that secretary clinton signed just as she became secretary of state in january of 2009. here's what it says. classified information is marked or unmarked classified information including oral being granted access to special confidence will be trusted. congressman, it's clear the marking, the header doesn't matter. it's the content that matters. >> if it's classified, it would have that marking on it. i don't believe there's any evidence that says that secretary clinton intended to disclose classified information. as she said,he was a mistake and as colin powell had said, there are ways you use your e-mail that could become problematic and that's why you -- >> i'm sorry, speaker, i'm going to bring you in for one last subject and that is because trump's comments this week about u.s. generals and clinton's response. here it is. >> under the leadership of barack obama and hillary clinton, the generals have been point where it's embarrassing about our country. >> what would ronald reg began say about a republican general who surfed and in addition he thinks to think that he could replace them, as you well know, i suspect as we all know them. the, he could chairman but there are generals up and down the line. >> i suspect he is reflecting the views of people like general flynn. i suspect he's reflecting the views of the 50 plus analysts at centcom who said they were explicitly giving you reports. there is a severe problem in the this. eye you saw that in how to handle speaker ryan. the obama -- >> does that mean the generals are an embarrassment? >> i am very surprised that the centcom scandal in which a general officer who was coordinating his scandal. >> i would love to consider this conversation with both of you. in fact, we'll have you both back to continue it. thank you for your time today. >> thanks, chris. when we come back, trump praises putin and clinton defends her e-mail. our sunday panel returns to ?? before it became a medicine, it was an idea. a wild "what-if." so scientists went to work. they examined 87 different protein structures and worked for 12 long years. there were thousands of patient volunteers and the hope of millions. and so after it became a medicine, someone who couldn't be cured, could be. fios is not cable. we're wired differently. which means we can fix things differently. thanks for calling fios, this is ryan. you can't tell me this cord isn't in, i know it's in, it's in but it's not working. i'm sending you a link to the my fios app that's going to let me see what you're seeing. mcenroe. see that cord? 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