Can Bernie Sanders convince his most passionate followers to get behind clinton . Senator sanders will join me live. Plus polls show the races getting tighter. Clinton is losing ground but trump isnt gaining much. So where is clintons support going . Joining me for insight and analysis this sunday morning are chris of the washington post, Kristin Welker of nbc news, Alex Castellanos and maria. Welcome to sunday, its meet the press. From nbc news in washington this is meet the press with chuck todd. Happy lay bbor day weekend,d of summer. Its hard not to think this is oddly familiar. On friday Hillary Clinton and emails and the fbi revealed details about the interview with ammunition about how she and her aids handled emails and classified information while she was at the state department. On wednesday, it was trump and the issue of deportation. In the afternoon he seemed accommodating. Maybe even president ial in a meeting with mexicos president in mexico city. Then just hours later before supporters in phoenix, trump gave a thundering anti illegal immigration speech that seemed more suited for the primaries th and just yesterday, trump made a rare attempt at winning over African American voters with an appearance at great Faith Ministries in detroit. I am here today to listen to your message, and i hope my presence here will also help your voice to reach new audiences in our country. Today i just want to let you know that i am here to listen to you and ive been doing that. Yesterday i caught up with mike pennsylvania at the Ohio State University before the buckeyes opening game against bowling green. Wasnt much of a game, by the way. Ohio state won big 7710. I asked pence to explain trumps position on deporting undocumented workers in this country and then i had to ask again and again and again. Here it is. It begins with building a wall, border security. It begins with enforcing the laws of this country, removing criminal aliens and removing people who over stayed their strengthening border patrol, strengthening immigration and customs enforcement. Doing the things we talked about. The e verify system for employers. All the things we know will bring all the incentives that are build into the economy, all of the ways that illegal immigration has been made possible in this country all of that will come to an end, and i think thats exactly what the American People want to hear remains after all of that is done, i think what you heard donald trump say is that well give consideration working with the congress in a new and reformed immigration system to consider it at that time, but what the American People want to see today is to establish the borders of this country and enforce the laws of this country and donald trump created a road map to do that, chuck. Why cant you definitive lay say what will happen to the folks . He used to definitively say it. He said eer even quickly, everybody has to leave and now there is some muddiness to this. I dont know how its just unclear to me. Can you clear this up . Well, maybe the way you see it. The look at this some 10,000 people in arizona last week, it wasnt the way they see it. As i travelled across this country campaigning with donald trump and for donald trump, i think people hear him loud and clear and hes been completely consistent. Illegal immigration debate. But hes not been consistent on this debate what to do with the 11 to 15 million. There are people in different circumstances in that category there are people that are criminal aliens in this country and i think everyone in this country understands people who are here violent crimes. People who are here, their first act was violation of the law but have gone on to criminal activity in america, we want them out and we want them out quickly. Donald trump made it very clear that a priority of our administration will be re well also be finding people who have over stayed their visa, an enormous number of people come to this country legally and over stay their visas because we make no effort to hold them accountable to that or uphold the law. The simple truth is that what the American People long to see is leadership at the national level. That doesnt focus on the group that youre focused on and i foe focus on the american there was a bunch of latino leaders that backed away from supporting your ticket because they didnt like what they heard on wednesday because they were told one thing and felt misled. One of them said they felt misled and one of the major issues has to do with what about this issue of deportation and what are you going to do . Not just media. I was campaigning in idaho and a Mexican American that came to this country legally with his family came up to me trump penn shirt, shook my hand and said tell donald trump we support him 100 . People who have come to this country legally, who stood in line and played by the rules in the latino and Hispanic Community like every other american belonged to have a president saying we are a nation of laws and well uphold and enforce those laws. What i thought was most important about Donald Trumps speech wednesday night in arizona was different frankly, chuck, with all due respect to million or whatever that number is. He was focused on them more than 300 Million People who are citizens of this country and here legally in this country and driving policies in immigration that will work for them, work for the future of our nation. Make no mistake about it, i hope your viewers have a chance to read or to see that speech in arizona. He also talked about establishing a commission to reform our broken laws, whole cloth to really to reform and change the way that people have the ability to come into this country, and do it all in a way thats in the interest of the American People and in the interest of the longterm future of our country. Is it fair to say youre not going to answer this question about the 11 to 15 million. Youll leave this as an open question throughout the rest of this campaign . I think Donald Trumps been completely consistent and i he hasnt when it comes to he said Deportation Force and everybody has to leave. He said everybody has to leave. We got to have borders. Now hes saying hes open to doing Something Different with whoever remains, which would be about half. Well, i think we i think we really dont know what that number is. Or who that is until we do all of the things in the tenpoint plan to come out of the shadows if you dont tell them what the penalty will be. I think, made it very, very clear that in his tenpoint plan well build a wall, well enforce the laws of this country and end catch and release and do all of the things that politicians in both poll lit. Caller party haves been talking about. He said no amnesty and path to legalization if people want to get legalized or right they need to leave the country. So they get legal without leaving the country. He also said not under the existing caps and program but rather under a new and reformed immigration program. I mean, when you heard donald trump call for was border security, building a wall, which actually Hillary Clinton actually said that she was for a physical barrier im told just a few short years ago. What do you do with socalled dreamers, folks brought here with they came over here, their parents brought them illegally, they were kids and here now and what do you do with them . I think all of these he said hell resend the executive order. Of course. What do you do with them . Do they live in the shadows . Of course hes going to resend the constitutional orders. The promise of successive, the promises to do executive amnesty. How are you going to force an ally to pay for the wall . I understand the remitting idea you do the patriot act. That feels like shake down. Well, look, we have an Enormous Economic relationship with mexico and this week you saw donald trump travel to mexico city and meet with the mexico president and start a issues they agree on but im very confident when donald trump becomes negotiator in chief, well sit down with our ally in mexico, who shares with us what is there incentive to pay for this wall . Other than were going to with hold money . Thats the incentive. The United States of america is the most powerful economy on the face of the earth. Access to the economy is enormously valuable to mexico and every other country in the world. Reforming nafta, as both of these leaders talked about in their leading this last week, or broad range of areas of our relationship. There is one thing donald trump knows is how to do a deal. Let me ask you, first of all you had a campaign in utah. There are a lot of mormons in particular dont like the muslim ban. Dont like the revised version of it, which is not supposedly targeting religions and come home from about helping the Syrian Refugees. They are very im sure you heard some complaints personally about this. What did you tell concerned utah residents about the muslim ban . I was frankly overwhelmed by the support that i encountered in utah and later in the day in idaho. I have to tell you, people are listening to Donald Trumps agenda to make amaerica great about the Supreme Court of the United States. The muslim ban. When he first came out, you basically said its unconstitutional. Why do you think it would target countries or religion, why do you think thats unconstitutional. The policy of barack obama and Hillary Clinton resulted in the wider middle east literally spinning out of control. Weve seen syria imploding into civil war and into civil war. We have entire countries in that region of the world and territories compromised by terrorism. I think what donald trump has said is we have to immediately suspend immigration from any countries that have been co compromised by terrorism. You can make a case over 100 countries have been compromised. How do you identify . Is a give me the definition germany . The United States . Chuck, lets start with syria. Hillary clinton wants to increase Syrian Refugees to this country by 550 . I dont think the United Nations is asking the United States to increase for what its worth. We acre cemented 10,000 and they want us to accept 65,000. Sure, Hillary Clinton wants to increase Syrian Refugees to this country by 550 . 1065. Thats what the u. N. Requested. Donald trump should suspend the sierran refugee program. Completely. And create working with arab countries to create safe zones for people to escape the wartorn areas but to continue to allow people into this country when our own homeland security, our own fbi says we cant know for certain who these people are is putting safety and security of the American People second to the agenda to the u. N. Simply not going to do that. Quick question about the leadership of the campaign there are troubling allegations against steve bannon, things he may have said about jewish people, things that may have happened between them and his wife. There are troubling allegations having to do with robert ails. Both are advisors to this campaign. Are you comfortable with that considering some of the allegations you read against both of these men . Are you comfortable with the invme involvement . I promise you the person leading Donald Trumps campaign is donald trump. We talk several times a day. Hes a hands on leader. Appropriate for roger ailes to be involved . I trust Donald Trumps judgment to assemble around this team a group that will help us move forward and be success and feel win and come on, i mean, steve bannon has denied all of those allegations some are in court records. I mean, look, i know look, divorces are divorces. Right, steve bannon and all these allegations against roger ailes, it feels as if does he ignore troubling allegations against people that work for him . I trust donald trump to assemble a team around him in this campaign has he has and will continue to. Youll continue to see people added to this campaign. What is really remarkable for me having joined this Campaign Just six weeks ago, is the is the fact that this cig movement of the American People. I mean, with Hillary Clinton there is 1,000 employees and experts and pollsters and people in the republican primary who had significant apparatus, as well. The other big news story besides trumps immigration muddle, in a friday news dump, the fbi took the rare step of releasing notes in the 3. 5er clinton. Not a recording, just notes. The top take aways, clinton claims she did not understand basic classification procedures and didnt recall training how to handle classified information. In fact, clinton said quote she could not recall or could not remember key details more than three dozen dimes and told the fbi she thought the c on an email referred to the order of paragraphs instead of quote the word confidential which is the lowest level of classification. Former powell advised her to be very careful in how she used private email and a computer specialist whose name was redacted deleted Clinton Emails weeks after the existence of clintons private server became public in march of 2015. The fbi said it requested 13 mobile devices, which potentially were used for clintons private email system but clintons law firm could not two mobile devices by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer. After governor pence and i walked outside we talked about clintons emails. Here is an excerpt. Its more evidence Hillary Clinton is the most dishonest candidate for president of the United States since richard nixon. Thats a tough charge. It is a tough charge, chuck, but come on. Ill just ask you this, though, if she were as dishonest as you claim, why isnt the fbi prosecuting . Hillary clinton, what evident from the notes, whats evident from all of the revelations over the last several weeks is that Hillary Clinton operated in such a way to keep her emails and particularly her interactions while secretary of state with the Clinton Foundation out of the public reach, out of public accountability. You guys have Higher Ground on this issue, on this whole idea of transparency and accountability if you guys were returns, and releasing tax returns, it is whatever you want to say about the clintons, we know this because the information is either been dragged out of them or its been disclosed. We dont have any disclosures. We dont have your tax returns yet. Donald trump and i are both going to release our tax returns. Ill release mine in the next week. Donald trump will be releasing his tax returns the at the completion of an audit. That wont be before the election. Well, well see. Information not available or that the incomprehensible decision she made as secretary of state to have a private server in her home and 11 different blackberries and mobile devices but goes to the question why did she do that and other emails that have come out in the last several weeks give evidence to the fact it was in underway while she was secretary of state. Let me ask you this, in the spirit of transparency, you sealed your congressional record and they wont be opened up. Are you going to resend that order . Well certainly look at it. The right to know and frankly now because you would err in the side of transparency. You know me, chuck. Efforts in the media and independent organizations to your point, by the Clinton Foundation. And the revelation in this fbi, gives evidence to the fact states since richard nixon. Coming up, Bernie Sanders joins me live for Hillary Clinton. What happens to clintons big lead in the polls . It doesnt appear that donald trump is getting a bump. Well be right back. He world 21, you can fly across town in minutes or across the globe in under an hour. Whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. To space planes, across the universe and beyond. And if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. Team, what if 30,000 people download the new app . Were good. 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I think what he has made peace with when he took this, im going to go as far as i comfortably can as a much more main line politician than donald trump in defending donald trump. What im not going to do you heard this on taxes as well