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WFLA Meet The Press February 21, 2016

Trump, rubio and cruz all join me this morning. Plus, Hillary Clinton gets the win she so desperately needed in nevada. Some may have doubted us, but we never doubted each other. While Bernie Sanders loses in the first state with a diverse electorate. Youre going to see the results of one of the great political upsets in the history of the united states. Bernie sanders makes his case this morning. Joining me for insight and analysis are, radio talk show host hugh hewitt, mnsbcs joyann reid. Amy walter, Cook Political Report and jon ralston, deen of the Nevada Political Press Corps and nbc analyst. Chuck, rubio, cruz and sanders, welcome to sunday in a postprimary and caucus edition of meet the press. From nbc news in washington, this is meet the press with chuck todd. Good morning. Im wishing every saturday had amazing sunday where everything seems a tad bit clearer this morning. Very simply two headlines out of shakeup saturday thanks to South Carolina kp nevada. We now have the threeway republican race so many expected and we now have a democratic frontrunner again, and her name is Hillary Clinton, again. But lets start with the republicans. Donald trump made it clear that he is now the republican frontrunner. Trump scored a big win in South Carolina winning 33 of the vote. And all 50 delegates at stake. The battle for second, a distant second frankly, was a back and forth affair all night with marco rubio edging out ted cruz by just one percentage point, 2322. Bush, kasich, carson they all finished way behind. And before the night was over jeb bush was officially out of the race. Here are trump, rubio and cruz as the night unfolded. Theres nothing easy about running for president. I can tell you. Its tough. Its nasty. Its mean. Its vicious. Its beautiful. When you win, its beautiful. Are going to start winning ing ning for our country. Now the children of the reagan revolution are ready to assume the mantle of leadership. Tonight, despite millions and millions of dollars of false and nasty attacks, despite the entirety of the political establishment coming together against us, South Carolina has given us another remarkable result. By the way, no republican has ever won South Carolina and iowa or New Hampshire as trump has without going onto win the nomination. On the democratic side Hillary Clinton got the win she needed to blunt the Bernie Sanders momentum. Clinton beat sanders 5347 finally getting an unambiguous victory after the nail biting win in iowa. Here are the results in nevada became clear. Tens of thousands of men and to pay, and dreams that wont die, this is your campaign. I believe that when democrats assemble in philadelphia in july at that convention, we are going to see the results of one of the great political upsets in the history of the united states. This morning a packed show. Were going to hear from donald trump, marco rubio, ted cruz and Bernie Sanders this morning. But were going to begin with the republican frontrunner, donald trump, who joins me live from palm beach, florida. Mr. Trump, good morning and congratulations, sir. Good morning. Thank you. Thank you very much. Let me start with this idea of whether it is a threeway race. Do you believe the republican nominations a threeway race . Or do you believe this is you on your way to getting the nomination . Well, i think i have a big advantage, but its certainly a threeperson race. And you have a couple of other people that are very talented there too. So we have a fiveman race. Be, you know, its going to be not easy. I have a big advantage, but long way from being won. Well, thats very humble of you this morning. Look, this has been a dramatic week of, i guess, changes, position changes, even by your standards. On wednesday you praised the Health Care Man date, by friday you said abolish. On saturday you said planned parenthood did wonderful things, on thursday you said youd defund it. Similarly at the debate you called george w. Bush a liar, you sort of backtracked on that later in the week. Are you it comes across, are you taking positions that you believe, or are you sort of as things get heated are you switching at the last minute . What are we to make of all this this week . Well, on the mandate, if you look at the mandate, we had a situation where we were anderson cooper, whos terrific by the way and did a terrific job, but we were talking over each other. Look, i want were going to repeal and replace obamacare. Obamacare is a total and complete disaster. Its going to be gone. Were going to come up with a Great Health Care plan, whether we have a lot of different things. We can get rid of the lines between states, well have great competitive bidding. But i say all the time you can call it anything you want. People are not going to die in the middle of the street. People are not going to die on the sidewalk if im president , okay. Let me get something definitive from you on this chuck, excuse me, i say that to packed houses with thousands and thousands of people. Republicans mostly. And i get standing ovations. Im not going to let that happen. If im president , were not going to have people dying on the streets. You can call it whatever you want no, i understand that. Let me ask you this i dont call it mandate, its common sense. Do you think it should be a law anybody who can afford Health Insurance has to have it . I think, no. I think its going to be up to them. I want it to be up to them. But im really talking about people that cant afford it. Were not going to let people die in squalor because we are republicans. Okay. Thats part of the problem with the republicans. Somehow they got fed into this horrible position. Were going to take care of people. Were going to have great plans. Theyre going to be a lot less expensive than obamacare. Theyre going to be private. There are going to be lots of different options. Were going to have a lot of different options. Right now you have no options. You know why . Because the Insurance Company controlled obama because they gave him a lot of money. Thats why you have lines around the stalts that you cant get competitive bidding. Now lets move to planned parenthood. You defended the other work planned parenthood does. Thats right. I do. Now you said youd defund it. Thats right, i would. Democrats will say the money they give to planned parenthood does not go to abortions. That the money they give to planned parntd hood only goes to other Womens Health issues including mammograms and things like that. If you knew the government money were only going to that, would you support funding planned parenthood . Yeah. If it didnt have to do with abortions. Look, i understand and many, many friends who are women who understand planned parenthood better than you or i will ever understand it and they do some very good work. Health issues are taken care of. I know one of the candidates i wont mention their name said were not going to spend that kind of money on Womens Health issues. I am. Planned parenthood does a good job in a lot of different areas but not on abortion. So im not going to fund it if its doing the abortion. I am not going to fund it. Now, they say its 3 and its 4 . Some say 60 . I dont believe its 60 by the way, but i think its probably a much lower number. But planned parenthood does some very good work. But i would defund as long as theyre doing abortions. All right. Let me move to the issue of iraq. Obviously a couple clips came out. Let me play you the howard stern clip in 2002. Okay. Sure. We have an idea who the enemy is and a lot of times the politicians dont want to tell you that. Are you for invading iraq . Yeah, i guess so. Um, i wish it was i wish the first time it was done correctly. Now, clearly you didnt sound like an enthusiastic supporter of the war. But i am curious in the second first time it was done correctly. What do you mean by that . Well, what i mean by that is it almost shouldnt have been done. You know, i really dont even know what i mean because that was a long time ago. Who knows what was in my head. I think that it wasnt done correctly in retrospect it shouldnt have been done at all. It was sort of, you know, it was done. We dropped bombs. Now, if you look back, actually that was probably the correct way of doing it, not going in and not upsetting giving them a lesson or not. I think senior actually did a pretty good job of what he was doing. He went in, he taught them a lesson. What happened is he was taunted because Saddam Hussein was saying we drove back the americans, the ugly americans were driven back, the power of iraq, the power. Well, we werent driven back, he just decided not general and although i think maybe he wanted to go in. If you look at my conversation with howard, were very good friends, different than what you hear on the radio, but were very good friends. Dont forget i was a real estate man and businessman. That was the first time i think that question was ever even asked of me. That was long before the war took place. That was many, many months before the war took place. And you could see by my answer i wasnt exactly thrilled. Joe scar borough released a point yesterday a tweet saying trump is right, look what he just said. You have to take a look at that. But regardless the war in iraq was a disaster. It was probably the worst thing, if you look at the middle east now, all started because of that horrible decision to go into iraq. And you know what we end up with . Nothing. We spent 2 trillion. We have thousands and thousands of lives killed. Just thousands carnage. Who i love all over the place, right, and we have nothing and iran is now taking over iraq. Theyve been trying to for many, many decades and now theyre finally taking over iraq. As we sit here theyre taking over iraq. We get nothing. Let me give you one more issue where you sort of went counter to what is perceived as republican orthodox and that is the issue of israeli and the palestinians. You said wednesday you wanted to be neutral in that dispute. Explain what neutral means because some heard that in the proisraeli community and thinks, oh, hes going to be antiisrael. Explain what you mean by neutral. No. Im very proisrael. In fact, i was the head of the israeli day parade a number of years ago, i did a commercial for netanyahu when he was getted elected asked me to do a commercial for him, i did a commercial for him. I am. But i dont want to be look, the hardest thing to do is that in terms of deal, if youre a deal person, right, the ultimate deal is that deal. Israel, palestine, if youre going to make it, that probably make. People are born with hatred, theyre taught hatred. And i have to say its mostly on the one side, not on the other side, but theyre taught hatred. I say this, if im going to be president , id rather be in a position because i will try the best i can. Believe me. To try and solve that puzzle. Youre not going to solve it if youre going to be on one side or another. Everyone understands that. If im going to solve the problem, i want to go in with a clean slate otherwise youre never going to get the cooperation of the other side. So thats all im saying. Donald trump, im going to leave it there. Again, congratulations on your big win. Stay safe on the trail. Well be watching on tuesday. Thank you. Thank you very much. You got it. All right. Im joined now by the man who came in second last night, senator marco rubio of florida. Senator rubio, welcome back to meet the press, sir. Thank you. Thanks for having me on. You got it. Okay. Sorry about that. Let me start with how you feel place finish last night. You had every major endorsement that you could have had and yet you still finished a distant second in South Carolina. How do you look at this as a positive and not a negative . Because 65 of the people voted yesterday and about 70 of republicans around the country have said we want someone other than donald trump to be our nominee. The problem is that vote was still divided even last night among five other people or four other people. I think now the race is narrowing even more. And as it narrows and continues to narrow, were going to continue to gain. So it was a very unusual year. You usually dont have five campaigns operating fulltime in a state this late into the process. Three states in. But i feel great that now that the choices have become less and less, more and more that new voter alternative to donald trump vote is going to coalesce around us and we have to make the work to make that happen, but we feel good about that. The issue i think all republicans have had going up against donald trump whether youve done it a little bit as well, you say hes not a real republican on this issue. Im sure you heard my interview with him. He doesnt have a lot of traditional republican stances on issues, and yet hes still winning. How do you ever winover his voters . Yeah. Well a couple things happen, number one hell Say Something over the top and you guys in the press will decide lets not cover anything and focus on the outrage of statement. Hes been very good at dominating that. And in an 11 person or 15 person field it crowded a lot of people out. Thats going to become harder to do. The second point i would make is people are really angry at washington and they have a right to be. Thats why i ran in 2010 by the way. And its because i didnt want my next u. S. Senator to be someone who was going to go up and do the same stuff people have been doing. Our argument is its okay to angry and upset at washington, but anger alone is not enough. You deserve a nominee who tells you exactly heres what were going to do and outlines that. So you know what youre getting. So my campaign is about this. We are very realistic about our challenges right now in this country. But were also optimistic about the future, but only if we do a few things. And im going to tell you exactly what those things are. And thats a big difference in this campaign between mr. Trumps campaign and mine. I think thats going to begin to matter a lot more now because there are less people in the race and more time to Pay Attention to some of that. Look, throughout the week it was clear a lot of campaigns thought you had momentum, a lot of campaigns were going after you. Heres one attack ad that cruz put up on immigration. I want to play a snipit of it and get a reaction from you on the other side. We know we have to deal with the 11 Million People that are here illegally. We have to deal with the 11 million individuals who are here illegally. The bill that senator rubio put forward i think is a great place to start. They still have to qualify for it. Passing a background check. Passed a background check. Pay a penalty. Pay a fine. Paying taxes. Start paying taxes. It wont be a quick process. That is a long path. But it will be a fair but i do think its fair. So, senator, i know you couldnt see the ad as we played it, im sure youve heard it and seen reference, what part of that ad is not true . It doesnt matter. The point first of all people didnt care about it. This is now an attack going on in state after state and people have processed and understand its a serious issue that needs to be solved. Number two, i could put the exact same ad on about ted cruz. Ted cruz said he wanted to find a compromise, ted cruz said he wanted to bring 11 Million People out of the shadows. Ted cruz said that he wanted Immigration Reform to pass. Heres the bottom line, i tried to solve a very difficult issue. And we tried to produce the best and most conservative bill possible in a senate controlled by harry reid at the time. And then send it over to the house and have them, conservatives, make it even better. It didnt work out because the house never took it up. And so now its very clear that the only way forward is going to be to do it in pieces beginning by securing our border. Thats what well do. When im president , the senate bills not going to be what its going to begin by focusing on securing our border first and foremost. And until you do that, youre not going to be able to do anything else. All right. I got to talk process. You woke up in tennessee this morning. That tells me thats a little bit of a tell, thats a state obviously you think you can win on super tuesday. Where else do you win on super tuesday . Now its about winning. You havent won yet. You got to win somewhere. It is. Well, i think first of all as we understand all these states award delegates differently. So we have a different strategy for each of these states depending how they award delegates. When we get into the winner take all states, in march, big chunks of delegates, thats where you need to win states and i feel very good about where were going to be by then. Im not going to reveal to you our Campaign Play book but were going to be in a lot of different places, im in tennessee, be in arkansas, nevada, were going to contest and work very hard for those caucuses on tuesday and keep moving forward in a bunch of other places. We have a national campaign. And i feel great about it especially after last night. All right. To leave it there. Stay safe on the trail. Its going to be a big, quick race overq,d next 23 days. Yes, sir. Thank you. Now to the democratic race and a close but crucial victory for Hillary Clinton in nevada yesterday. And a big blow for my next guest, senator Bernie Sanders. Welcome back to meet the press, senator. Good to be with you. Let me start with something you said on friday. You said on friday it could be 10, 20, 30 years from now people will look back at what happened in nevada and say this was the beginning of the Political Revolution. Obviously the results didnt turn out the way you thought. What happened, sir . Well, what happened is over the last five weeks, chuck, we came from 25 points down to five points down. As i understand it we actually won the latino vote yesterday, which is a big breakthrough for us. But the voter turnout was not as high as i had wanted. And what ive said over and over again, we will do well when we do not do well when the voter turnout is

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