Transcripts For WESH Meet The Press 20160207 : comparemela.c

Transcripts For WESH Meet The Press 20160207

Going at each other too. Innuendo and insinuation. Can Hillary Clinton have her own comeback kid New Hampshire style moment. Can Bernie Sanders turn a New Hampshire blowout into a national movement. What leadership is about is not just swimming with the current. Hillary clinton and Bernie Sanders are with us this morning. And bern your enthusiasm. Was that Bernie Sanders on snl last night, or larry davis, or both . Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good. Im chuck todd in manchester, New Hampshire. Joining me for insight and analysis this special sunday morning are msnbcs Chris Matthews, nbcs Andrea Mitchell, Hallie Jackson of nbc news, and radio talk show host hugh hewitt. Trump, sanders, clinton and the welcome to sunday and a special edition of meet the press. From manchester, New Hampshire, this is a special edition of meet the press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning. Here we are right here in New Hampshire, the site of tuesdays primary. Were right here in nbc news fabulous New Hampshire headquarters, two days before what may be among the most important days in american politics this year. And last nights Republican Debate as our the Washington Post colleague put it, marco rubio hit a wall named Chris Christie. This notion that barack obama doesnt know what hes doing is just not true there it is. There it is. The memorized 25second speech. And it only got worse from there for rubio. Well have much more on the debate later this morning. Joining us today are three candidates who are all counting on tuesday to help send them to the nomination and perhaps on to the white house. Republican donald trump, and the two candidates vying for the democratic nod, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Before we get to the interviews lets take a look at the very morning. Cnn wmur has trump with a big lead still at 33 followed by rubio, cruz, kasich and bush in that order. Rubios momentum appears to have stopped. Thats before the debate is factored in this. For democrats this poll has sanders up big 58 over 35 though worth noting clinton has picked up seven points in the last few days. In this mornings umaa 7 news tracking poll, they have trump with a big lead and order below him rubio, cruz, bush and kasich. Democratic side they have this race a bit closer, sander with a lead 5740 slightly up from yesterdays poll. One thing to remember about New Hampshire, its the graveyard of pollsters. Well have my interview this morning with donald trump in just a few minutes. But were going to begin with the democrats and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton. You liked that graveyard of pollsters, havent you . In 92 and 2008. Look, i know im behind. Im going to keep fighting until the very last vote is counted. Because i care about this primary. Why do you think you started with such a big deficit this time considering look, this has been a big state to both your husband and yourself. Very important. Yeah. They always help you. Well, look, i cant sit here and analyze all the reasons. Obviously one is that the senator has been in public life next door for 25 years. So theres a familiarity with him. I totally respect that. And i just think whats great about this primary is New Hampshire voters take a first, second, third, fourth, fifth look. Yesterday as i was crisscrossing from one side of the state to the other talking to voters, i literally had people come up, say you changed my mind, who knows. This is whats so exciting about the primary, chuck. I came in in 2008 as i recall like 16 points behind. I remember the night before the primary in 92, bills pollster single digits. Its over. Who knows. I love this excitement. And im going to fight as hard as i can. But im having a great time whatever happens. I want to go to the debate a little bit because i would say the Foreign Policy section is one that you guys wanted to highlight because you felt as if he didnt do so well. You brought up secretary state Madeleine Albright to talk about it. Some of the things you said about senator obamas readiness on Foreign Policy, theyre very similar to what youve said about Bernie Sanders. In 08 you said i have a lifetime of experience i will bring to the white house. I know senator mccain has a lifetime of experience hell bring to the white house. Senator obama has a speech he gave in 2002, it sounds very similar to what you said when youre like, okay, you had one vote on the iraq war oh. Whats the difference between what you said about thensenator obama and what youre saying about senator sanders . Theres a very big difference. In 2008 senator obama had really done his homework in the senate. He had developed a network of advisors on National Security and Foreign Policy issues. They were very diligent and focused on making sure he was ready, that he had as broad a set of views as possible. And they really went toetotoe with all the people supporting me. Thats not happening in this campaign. There really isnt any kind of Foreign Policy network that is supporting and advising senator sanders. Ill let him speak for himself. I think that whats important is this job requires you to be ready on all aspects of it on the first day. And we know we got a particularly complex world right now. And the president s not going to have the time. Maybe previous president s in past years could have a little more leeway because of, you know, the way the world functioned. But now its north korea with its missile tests, its russian aggression, its enforcing the you have to do it all at once. Do you think the iraq vote should still matter to voters . Well, i think voters are perfectly free to take into account anything they want to take, but i also hope theyll take the rest of the record. I was involved in the biggest counterterrorism decision in the Obama Administration to determine whether or not to go after bin laden. I did put the sanctions on iran to get them to the negotiating table. I think that this is a debate that the voters really have to Pay Attention to because it is choosing both a president and a commander in chief. Do you believe if it wasnt for the iraq war we wouldnt have isis today . Well, i think thats a hard conclusion to draw because remember we had al qaeda before we had isis. Al qaeda attacked us in new york. Al qaeda attacked our embassies in africa the instability in iraq is what has created this and that if Saddam Hussein were still there we wouldnt have isis. Well, i think thats a lot of jumps in logic that to me the iraq war, theres no doubt contributed to instability. That. Line. What you can do is to say that right. And moving onto its latestin in incarnations, most particularly isis, is in response to a number royaling ing roiling up the middle east. And certainly fighting for what islam means and how its going to be presented and what people are going to mean when they talk about it. So, yeah, weve got a much bigger set of problems. All right. Another thing i wanted to followup on the debate. Senator sanders called the entire Business Model of wall street a fraud. We didnt get a chance to ask you to respond directly to that critique. Id like to ask you to respond to it now. Well, i think its the kind of extreme statement that once it its hard to understand. You know, when you talk about wall street, are we talking about every bank . Or are we talking about a particular part of new york . Thats never really clarified. What i believe is that there are good actors and bad actors in every part of our economy. The job of the president is to weed out and prevent the bad actors from disrupting Economic Activity from amassing too much power and influence. But we live in a complex Global Economy where weve got to have a good Banking System that is able to service the American Economy. And it needs to be more than just looking at the five banks that are the big banks. We have to have a much more Robust Community Banking System, regional Banking System, other forms of credit access. And thats what i am advocating for. And i still do not understand why im having this problem getting senator sanders to join me in going after what are the there, the shadow Banking Sector and the investment and hedge fund sector. Can you have a treasury secretary who isnt familiar with how wall street works . And i say this because i think theres so much distrust right now. There is. Of wall street. Six of the last treasuries either came from wall street or went to wall street after. I think there certainly right now isnt an appetite for somebody from wall street to be the next treasury secretary, and yet can you have a treasury secretary if they dont understand wall street . Well, you have to have a treasury secretary who understands the economy, the American Economy and the Global Economy. I think there are a lot more places where one can and should look for such a treasury. Do you think you can pick one without having them have a wall street background . You know, i want somebody who can make a good commitment to work with me to get the economy moving, to get more good jobs created, to get incomes rising, to look out over the horizon at some of the economic problems that are out there. Weve got to figure out what were going to do with china. China is finally having to come lot of its growth may not have been as on a Firm Foundation as we would hope. So we need people in government who have that kind of commitment and understanding. But weve got to put the needs of the American Economy first. And thats going to be my commitment. Before i let you go i want to ask you about a comment former secretary of state Madeleine Albright said, a comment ive heard her say before. But it sort of rang differently to a lot of people. She said, theres a special place in hell for women who dont help women. But the implication is that somehow if youre a democratic woman and youre not supporting you, whats wrong with you. Do you want the vote to be decided on gender lines like that . Oh, look, as you remember madeleine has been saying this for many, many years. Starbucks cups i think. I get that. She believes it firmly and in part because she knows what a struggle it has been. And she understands the struggle is not over. Offended by what she is expressing as her very you can understand why some might have been offended . Well, good grief, were getting offended about everything these days. Honest to goodness, i mean, people cant say anything without offending somebody. She has a Life Experience that i respect. I admire her greatly. And i think what she was trying to do which shes done in every setting ive ever seen her in going back 20plus years, was to remind young women particularly that this struggle which many of us have been part of is not over. And dont be in any way lulled by the progress weve made. And i think it was a light hearted but very pointed remark, which people can take however they choose. All right. What do you got in the super bowl . I dont have anybody right now. You dont have anybody . Im going to flint, michigan, im worrying about the kids in flint, michigan, to make sure we theyre not damaged. Youre going today, you could have gone yesterday. I love New Hampshire. The mayor asked me to come. Im very hopeful to congress which is trying to work in a bipartisan way will come up with some funding to deal with these problems that have afflicted the community. And im going to keep doing everything i can help them. Secretary clinton, i know you have a plane to catch. Thanks. Great to talk to you. Last night, i spoke with senator Bernie Sanders from new york where he was preparing to appear on saturday night live. Here it is. I want to start with some reviews from the debate. First debate on wall street you got some good reviews, but on Foreign Policy, i want to put up some headlines here, sir. Not so good boston globe, sandsers flunks on Foreign Policy, the Washington Post, Bernie Sanders trips up on Foreign Policy during debate. How do you respond to that . Well, you know, time after debates the pundits keep thinking that Hillary Clinton wins the debates, but somehow the people do not. And we did very well in iowa. I think were doing well in New Hampshire. And i think were doing well nationally. Look, theres no question that Hillary Clinton has a great deal of experience regarding Foreign Policy. She was our secretary of state for four years. That gives her a lot of experience. But it is not just experience that matters. It is judgment. I think we have the judgment in terms of what we should do with isis right now, that we should learn the lesson of the iraq war, which i vigorously opposed, which means that we cannot, chuck, do it alone. I will do everything that i can to make sure that our young men and women in the military do not get sucked into a perpetual warfare in the quagmire of the middle east. Not about your policy on isis. Let me play for you something secretary of state Madeleine Albright said on saturday. Take a listen. Ive been very concerned about his lack of knowledge. Most people know how many dictators north korea has. I have spent an awful lot of time on the hill in a variety of ways. Ive gone up and down briefings and all kinds of things. Unless he looked totally different at the time, he has never been to any briefing let me stipulate, Madeleine Albright is a supporter of Hillary Clinton and she was brought up here by the Hillary Clinton campaign to talk about this. My concern is about the level of interest you have on Foreign Policy. Chuck, chuck, it goes without saying, number one, i have been to briefing after briefing after briefing. You know, in fact, just a couple of weeks ago when i visited with the president , one of the things and Foreign Policy. It is obviously an enormously important part of what being the president is about. Now, i dont really know this, maybe the answer is different, tell me what Madeleine Albrights position was on the war in iraq . Right. I dont know. I dont know. I wouldnt be surprised if she supported it. You know, the issue here is not just experience. The issue is judgment. I voted against the first gulf war, which history will record. I led the opposition against the war in iraq, which history will also record as being the right thing. Clearly, clearly Foreign Policy is enormously important. And i will tell you this also, chuck, if you go back to 2008, this is exactly what the clinton people were doing to senator barack obama. They were attacking him he cetera, et cetera. I am absolutely confident that if elected president we will have a very strong Foreign Policy for the American People. I think to alleviate some of these concerns if you told how about i know you didnt tell me the other night when i asked you about who your Foreign Policy advisors are. Give me a few names of people you would end up considering as a secretary of state or secretary of defense. I think its a little bit premature to talk about who your secretary of defense is going to be. I will tell you that we have met recently with people like larry cobb, actually worked in the reagan administration, talked to people like jim zagby, talked to the people on j street to get a Broad Perspective of the middle east. Ive been meeting with a whole lot of people. Let me reassure the American People despite what theyre hearing from Madeleine Albright, that it goes without saying that in Foreign Policy, must have a strong Foreign Policy position. And i will of course do that. Let me move onto Something Else you said from the debate. It was a tough charge. You said, and you yourself said this was g

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