On the record. Ed thank you for joining us on this sunday. Massachusetts voters will decide whether to legalize Recreational Marijuana here in the commonwealth. Today, we have jim borghesani, Communications Director for yes on 4 campaign. Emily thank you for being with us. Right now we have four states, colorado, alaska, oregon and washington. Here in massachusetts we now allow the use of medical marijuana. Along with 23 other states. Lets break it down to basics. Why should marijuana be legal recreationally in massachusetts . Jim first of all the Current System is a failure. It has done nothing to protect teens for marijuana. Easy access. Drug dealers dont check ids. Subsidized by taxpayers without returning anything to taxpayers except more cost in arrests, incarceration and many other Law Enforcement costs. What we are proposing is a system that would actually start to control marijuana in massachusetts. It would also give people who require medical marijuana a chance to get them without breaking the law. Im talking specifically about people who do not want to be placed on the list in massachusetts. Right now medical card in massachusetts you are placed on a state maintained list. We dont have state maintained lists for gun owners. A lot of people, particularly veterans, federal employees, dont want to be placed on this list because they dont want to lose federal benefits, their pensions. As you know, marijuana is illegal at the federal level so this would help a lot of people who require therapeutic marijuana to get it. Emily because you could grow a legally at a retail shop without having to go on a list that a lot of people dont want to go on. A lot of people dont have access only a handful of stores open now. We have medical marijuana laws that we have not realized the advantages of in medical marijuana system. It would correct the many social injustices that occurred on the war on drugs. Right now in massachusetts even with decriminalization more likely to get arrested for marijuana offense that a white person, despite equal use rates among both communities. It would correct a social injustice. The third reason, and there are many more, marijuana now is travel and in society is prevalent in society and has been for decades. We think we should take commerce away from criminals, drug dealers, put it under the ed youve heard the argument before, marijuana is a gateway drug. To that you say jim we say that his false. Ed Robert Dupont says marijuana is positively correlated with cigarette use, illegal drug use and cocaine and methamphetamine. Jim hes wrong. I would like to see a Scientific Study that shows that because we have not seen a single credible Scientific Study that shows that marijuana is a gateway t its two things, tobacco, and alcohol. We have seen that early use up tobacco is a gateway to other substances, not necessarily because people are seeking other substance, because that indicates a social problem at home perhaps. Something in the way a person is substance abuse. One of the early indicators is early smoking of tobacco. The notion that marijuana leads to anything as a gateway has not been proven scientifically by anybody. Ed lets play marty walsh, the boston mayor who has been in alcohol recovery. His first words of the Democratic Convention are i marty walsh and im an alcoholic. Recovery for nearly a quarter of a century and he is working to defeat legalizing marijuana. Marijuana is alcohol is legal. Explain to the people of massachusetts why its important to legalize marijuana. I think that would be a good start. Ed to him, you would say . Jim i would repeat that we think the Current System is a failure. We think good societies recognize Public Policy failures and improve upon them and thats what were trying to do with this. We want to have a system that is that will actually decrease access to teenagers. People think the notion that legality will increase use has been proven wrong in every state. In massachusetts, teen use is declining despite the fact that we had to criminalization. Decriminalization. Ed colorado has shown a 19 growth in teens. And that stated at shown growth, 12 to 19 . Jim im going to dispute the most recent report that came out, Healthy Kids Colorado survey, the widest and Largest Survey of its kind in the country, 17,000 kids surveyed of the report came out in june, shows teen use lapsed in colorado. Emily this entire year we have done stories about the opioid epidemic. You saved my gateway drug but you have leaders in our state, governor baker, mel walsh, or saying when they speak to people at these Recovery Centers their hearing i started with marijuana. Is a tough year when everyone is so concerned about opioids. Jim they should be concerned about opioids. The largest indicator or the largest reason that we have an Opioid Crisis is opioids themselves. The vast over prescription opioids over the last 15 years. Ill point out that governor baker does talk about marijuana in relation to opioids when hes talking about our question. If you watch him or the attorney general, or the governor baker passed burrell, she never mentions marijuana once when shes interviewed when it comes to opioids. She never mentions it. Its a political consideration used by governor baker from his reasons. Ed lets play the governor on beacon hill. You got some heavy hitters lined up against the legalization. Here is the governor on who thinks its a gateway drug. Ive talked to to too many idea. Ed sibley put, a bad idea. Jim i would go back to dr. Monica burrell who on npr when they talked about increasing opioid deaths in 2016, she never mentioned marijuana once. She was on a 30 minute interview on television in may, all about opioids, she never mentioned marijuana once. When there is a political consideration it becomes maria physician or a scientific body, like the cdc. The cdc recently came out with guidelines for opioid prescription and they mention the factors leading to opioid addiction. They do not mentioned marijuana once. Ed listen to what the attorney general has to say in her statement. Many are lined up a post to this and here is maura healey. To look at Something Like thc 70s and 80s, its up to 20 or 30 now. Ed so it is a different item that was when we were growing up. Jim yes. Some strains have a larger percentage of thc. Some strains dont. The strains that the attorney general mentions, they have been in society for 20 years so we are not introducing anything to the market that does not already exist. All we are saying is lets finally take a way that has worked for alcoholic beverages in massachusetts prohibition ended. We have a regulatory system. We think that is the best way to access start controlling marijuana rather than just thinking by making it illegal the problem is and there. Ed lets go to the pop quiz. Todays, pot quiz. [laughter] ed what current rural leader said this what current world frequently, that was the point. President obama said that. By the way, mr. President if youre watching, you did say that. [laughter] ed which former u. S. President said this about marijuana . Penalties against possession of the drug should not be more damaging to an individual that the use of the drug itself. Nowhere is it more clear than in the laws against the session of marijuana in private or personal use. I would say president clinton. Ed president carter said that. Stay with us. Stay with us. Fios is not cable. Were wired differently. So we wired the wagners house with 100 meg internet. Which means that in the time it takes mr. Wagner to pour a 20 oz. Cup of coffee, tommy can download 30 songs, and jan can upload 120 photos. 12 seconds. Thats the power of fiber optics. And right now you can get 100 meg internet with equal upload and dowloads speeds, only fios can. Ed back with jim borghesani. Which lifestyle sharing this joint. Jim madonna. Ed not bad, martha stewart. Which Country Singer said this, i think people need to be educated to the fact that marijuana is not a drug, marijuana is a flower, god put it there. Mobile choice. Willie nelson, dolly parton, toby keith . Jim willie nelson. Ed question five, which famous reggae singer said t the healing of the nation, alcohol is the destruction . Edjim bob marley. Emily two out of five. Ed betting 500. Emily lets talk about tax revenue. If pot is legalized, how much do you think the state could take in in revenue and what are you basing that number on . Jim there was a study that came arcview. They concluded that by the year 2020 we would have 1 billion in sales, based on that we would get about 100 million in taxes. We are basing that on our tax structure which would be 10 combined sales tax and excise tax. Also a 2 optional local tax. By 2020 we see about 100 million in revenues. Emily 1 billion in sales based on so far . Jim looking at studies of use rates in massachusetts compared to other states. Pr they calculated the population, which we are about the same as colorado, video little bit more. Colorado is on track for epic 1. 4 billion in sales. Our usage rate is maybe a little less than colorado but using factors like that. Ed big money involved. Who is the money behind you . Jim we have several. Pac created by a group headed by peter lewis. They want they put their money toward social justice. One of their primary targets is the social injustices of the drug war. We get a good amount from them. We are thankful for that. Small donors, lots of people donating just like any other campaign. We have some philanthropists who are interested in social justice and time. Medical marijuana suppliers who think this is the right thing to do. Ed as an anchorman on channel 5 i throw this turnaround and dont know the meaning of it. What is Recreational Marijuana . Jim im glad you asked that. Ed what is recreational mean . Jim we dont know. We use adult use marijuana. We do not use that term. Im a social drinker, i would uses, not with bad intent, just because it is shorthand to differentiate for medical marijuana from social use marijuana. Recreational, we never use that term. Im glad you brought that up. We would like to see adult use. That would differentiate it. Ed they can show much for coming. Thank you so much for coming. Jim borghesani. We appreciate you being here th m about over the next three months. Im asking for the vote of every African American citizen struggling in our country today. Ed donald trump looking for black votes and shaking up his es and shaking up his among the ballot questions message question 4 whether to utilize Recreational Marijuana in the bay state. If they legalize it i would not see there being a problem with that. How do you think you will boat . I vote to legalize it. I am in substance abuse. Make a lot of money off of it. It would be regulated and taxed. Its not any worse than alcohol. Marijuanas could be a gateway drug that could lead to more severe usage. I honestly dont know, probably yes. I dont believe in it. Im a graduate student. At today. Ed to my right, marianne wal mary anne marsh. To the left, rob gray. Emily talking about this ballot question, do you think his argument will work and how is it playing into a president ial Election Year . Down. People are willing to accept medical marijuana but not legalization. It will not pass for that reason. Rob i dont take it going to pass either. Getting support in the mid to high 40s. Usually before Campaign Season you have to be about 60 when the ballot question is introduced because youre constantly going to should support so i see it going down. Ed in honor of john maclachlan, item 2 this morning, trump reorganization. But i am who i am. Its me. Everyone talks about you going to pick it. I dont want to pay the. Ed thats kind of revealing. The third time the charm . Mary anne heres what guarantees, even more negative, more nasty in a race to the bottom. I think the thing im going to look for is when trump finally decides is not going to win this race does he take Hillary Clinton with him . And i think that is the endgame, more in the end but he wants to be damaged goods when she wins. Ed where do we go from here . There is logic to trump is who he is and he should just be who we has. Rob a lot of people are saying this new team, this third team, will finally will again let trump trump. I would say trump has been trump. Hes been shooting himself in the foot. Im not sure changing Campaign Managers is going to help. It. These people are not field operatives who can pull off an election in battleground states. Theyre more inside d. C. Political players and im not sure that helps that much. Mary anne i think trump closes the gap but i think he cant overcome the gap because he is hurt himself so badly so far. Emily switching to the democrats staying local, the governor sidestepping a question about Hillary Clinton. The presidency because her experience and her record demonstrate that shes qualified to hold the job. Emily Maggie HassansCampaign Later saying she does the clinton as honest. Hassan running against kelly ayotte. A out struggling with her partys nominee. I have actually said im going to be voting for him but i do have significant disagreements with him which i emily whose first . Rob the book look extremely uncomfortable. They would like to run their own race. When you talk of a president ial race impacting here in massachusetts on the Ballot Initiative where it really impacts is in New Hampshire in this race. Their fate may be decided by whether donald trump comes back or Hillary Clinton continues to shine. Its going to be a one or two point race. And still lose because their partys nominee drags them down. Mary anne i think they both looked terrible and this is the dilemma every senate faces in every swing state. I would rather be Maggie Hassan with Hillary Clinton at the top of the ticket with a doubledigit lead rob in New Hampshire right now. New hampshire has been a blue state president ially lately the last couple of decades. Ed it is governor Maggie Hassan. Boston pd and unions are voluntary but it did not rule out the fact that if we did not get officers that we could take action. We have to get this program up and running. Ed the question is whos going to win in the end . Mary anne mayor walsh and commissioner evans. The Boston Police department does a great job and the believing Community Policing we have been able to avoid the kind of summer a lot of other cities have. Boy did the union overstep overplay their hwi commissioner will win. The police have a point that these are not a cureall by any . . . Award winning interface. Award winning design. Award winning engine. The volvo xc90. Fios is not cable. Were wired differently. So we wired the wagners house with 100 meg internet. Tommy can download 30 songs, and jan can upload 120 photos. 12 seconds. Thats the power of fiber optics. And right now you can get 100 meg internet with equal upload and dowloads speeds, tv and phone for just 69. 99 per month online. Cable cant offer internet speeds this fast at a price this good. Ed Curt Schilling may be considering a stint in politics. He has a site set on elizabeth warren. Mary anne i cant wait for an antigovernment Curt Schilling to run for the senate after he took 75 bankrupt before you go through his twitter feed or facebook page. Bring him. Rob i think this will look like a red sox yankees playoff series. [laughter] rob by the way, the yankees elizabeth warren. Ed very good. Emily best week . Rob cory lewandowski, trumps. Trump is now on his 13th a manager. Mary anne Hampden County sheriff mike ash who had his final clambake reviews the kingmaker in western massachusetts. From boston to springfield, great great guy. Ed bill drank the melted butter straight out. Now you tell me about this. Thank you folks. Thank you for joining us. Every sunday we go on the re mom im a mom, not a millionaire. Permission. I can give hugs. But i cant give millions of dollars to a campaign. Vo but thats the way to get Kelly Ayottes attention. 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