Nation. Captioning sponsored by cbs welcome to face the nation. Speaker john baner with us. This interview had been planned for some time. We will talk about the popes visit but the big announcement. So i want to talk to you about that lets get right to the news. Four days the government runs out of money is throwing go to be a shut down . No. Senate is expected to pass, house will take up the senate bill. Also take up select committee to investigate these horrific videos that weve seen from abortion clinics that in several states, raise questions about the use ever federal funds and raise questions about abort the fetuses. Dickerson the continuing resolution will that require votes . Keep the government open. Dickerson what about the rest of the business you want to get done before october 30th . Ive got another 30 days to be speaker. Ill make the same decisions the same way i have the last four and half years. To make sure that were passing conservative legislation. That good for the country. I expect a little more cooperation from around town to get as much finished as possible. I dont want to leave my successor a dirty barn. I want to clean the barn up before the next person. Dickerson lets talk about the state. A lot of your colleagues ive talked to who have served with you, used the word dysfunction, say that you had to resign because its a sign of how things dysfunctional are with the house. I wouldnt call it dysfunction. Disagreement, yes. But as i said on friday i was planning on leaving at the end of last year when my prepared lost his primary election in july of also year. I just couldnt belief. I had to provide transition for the next leaders. I planned on serving through this year and on november 17 i was going to make announcement. On thursday evening, friday morning, why do i want to put my colleagues through this when ill make my colleagues why put institution through this. It was the right decision. I thought we handled it the right way. When you talk about decision they were going to have to go through. Going to be motion to vacate the chair. Kick you out of your job. Help at home. An issue i was going to get the overwhelming numbers of votes. But make my members, republican members walk the plank. Because criticized at home. More. Accomplished a lieutenant over the four and half years that i was speaker. Whether it of the largest deficit, saving 2. 1 trillion, 899 of the American People from increase in taxes or first major entitlement reforms in 20 years. All done over last foyer and half years with democrat president all voted against by my most conservative members because it wasnt good enough. Really . This is the part that i really dont understand. Gave us system of government, majority of the house, need 60 the president gets to decide. Some parliamentary system if you won the majority you got this long slow process. Change comes slowly. Too slowly for some. Are they unrealistic in government . Absolutely. But the bible says, beware of false paragraph pets. There are people out there spreading. Noise about how much can get done. I mean this whole idea that were going to shut down the government to get rid of obamacare in 2013 never had chance. But over the course of the august recess in 201, course of september. Lot of Republican Congress who knew it was a fools errand, all this pressure to to do this we have groups here in town, here in town whip people into a frenzy. They know are never going to happen. But 25 great years here in washington, great staff, great colleagues, very thankful. To my family and my constituents for giving me the honor. Dickerson is ted cruz a false prophet. Pick a lot of names out ill let you choose them. Dickerson you dont debate that . Ill refer to you my fundraiser in august in colorado. Dickerson let me put up a picture as you as member of gang of seven, 25 years ago, the last member of gang still serving, do you got some things changed do you see any of yourself in these current conservatives who are giving you deprive now . No. It wasnt about shaking up the republican. The house was run as one democrat chairman called it the last plantation in america the post office scandal. My share of members to jail over ism proper activities in the house. But all that have bee we began to question how the house was being run, ther from of the house helps us write the contract with america, get into the majority. Its been a great run. Dickerson let me ask you about you called, i believe you word jackass. People. Switching to a much more bigger being named speaker or dash. Grew up as altar boy was a big deal. Ive tried with the last three popes to get them to address joint session of congress. The first time i did this, back in 1995 or 96 somehow showed up my mother called my, still alive then, my mother never called me. I answered the phone, john, its your mother. Now listen i see youre inviting the pope, if hes there, im there, you got it . This time. Dickerson thats what i mean. Tell me about that day. The impression it left on you, big deal, then youre in his presence. Yes. A nice greeting when he came to the capital once the cameras said, your holy father youre on boehner time. He looked at me funny, that means youre on time or youre early. Youre early. We had wonderful chat and Cardinal Rolle and myself got in the conversation about education and the kids. Then the meeting broke up, my family came in, my six week old grandson, allister was blessed by the hope. Dickerson when you you told another store row what the hope said to you about prayer. We left where the hope addressed all the people in the capital we came through my office, the hope went down to the firster from on my elevator i took the steps down to the first floor, in which we now call freedom foyer i was standing there with the pope, the cardinals and the entourage was all moving out to their vehicles and the pope takes his left arm grabs my left arm pulls me near him and, saying nice worse, i wouldnt repeat because it cause me to cry. Then put his arm around me and pulled me right into him and said, please pray for me. Well, you can imagine, i was a mess. Who am i to ray for the snow but i did. Dickerson there is belief in the Catholic Church that the holy spirit can move us. Did it after that visit to make this decision for you . It helped clear the picture. I never related one of these instances to the other. But by friday night it was obvious, its time to do this j. So you woke up thursday night. Woked up to starbucks and back. Walked to at 7 45 i said, yeah, its time to do this. Dickerson in a year or so you will be back in the hall nor the unveiling of your portrait. What do you want them to stay about you at that ceremony some. He was a good man. Dickerson thats it . All. Dickerson and do you have anything that you can say now that youre headed out the door that you wouldnt have said if you had to go through another no. I love my colleagues. I love the institution. I tried to do the best thing every day. Im a simple guy. Do the right thing for the right happen. Dickerson tell us about your thoughts about president obama. You worked on that grand bargain, didnt come through. Reflect on that for a moment . Its probably one of the best speakership. We were so close to having two days later the president walked away from it. Save about 5 trillion. Been good for our economy, good for the country, good for the kids and grandkids. But its washington. Things happen. And on friday morning, nice conversation with my dear friends george w. Bush. All my legislative colleagues. Dickerson what advice do you leave for your successor about the job. Do the right things for the right reasons. Keep the country best interest in mind. And have courage to do what you can do. Its easy to have the courage what you cant, do but the courage to do what you can do. Our system of government is not about hail mary passes, its the woody hayes, school of football. Three yards and a cloud of dust. Its a slow methodical process. Dickerson one last, what are you going to do now, by the way . I dont know. I made that decision, well figure it out. Dickerson one thing this i heard a rumor about that you might be able to admit now that i do. Not as diligent as i used to be a year ago. But i do. Matter of fact i thought about it this morning, because its great far my back. Ive had back problems for 50 years but older you get all those tendons, muscles, wall want to tighten up. Dickerson thanks so much for being with us. Nice being with you. Dickerson we hope to see you again. Youll come back in retirement . Well see. Dickerson lots to talk about. Well be back with democratic candidate Bernie Sanders. My name is watson. Im helping doctors keep people healthy. Take ted here. Im pulling together data he shared from his wearables, Health Records and family history, so we can analyze it. Hes doing everything right. For the most part. You are a beast, ted. My name is watson. How can i help you . Dickerson joining us now is vermont senator Bernie Sanders. Welcome. I just wanted to get your reaction to John Boehners news, he came to congress with him at the same time. Well, john has had impossiblely difficult job trying to reconcile the conservative wing of his caucus with the extreme right wing of his caucus that will not do anything, pass any legislation that barack obama will sign. Its an impossible job. I admire him for hanging in there. Dickerson another piece of news this week, scott walker folded his campaign, youve talked a great deal about the billionaire class that influences politics by getting money to candidates. The Koch Brothers were a big supporter, he dispoured from the president ial race. Is that a rebuttal to your argument that big money calls the tune in politics . I wish it were, i wish that the Koch Brothers say, gee, now machined to spent supporting right wing republicans, than either the Democratic Party will spend were not going to spend it. Lesson. The power of money over political process is horrendous. I think that super pacs are playing destructive role in our political system and i will do, if president , everything that i can to see that this citizens united, Supreme Court decision is overturned. American democracy is not about billionaires trying to buy elections. Dickerson you did something, you went into audience that is not there just to applaud you automatically you went to Liberty University, fundamentalist university you brought your same message, one of the things that you said that the audience knew you had disagreement on the question of but asked to put them aside. The inequities, would you have the same message for liberals that on those issues that really stopped fighting about though focus on the big thing which is the economic inequality . This is what i said at liberty. This is what i believe. I am pro choice, ive always been pro choice. I am strongly in favor of gay marriage, i know that at Liberty University people there have honest disagreements with me. I said, any time when we have grotesque level of income and wealth inequal. All the wealth going to the top 1 when we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country on earth, many millions of americans are working two or three jobs just to sustain themselves can we not get together and talk about creating an economy that works for all ever us and not just millionaires and billionaires. When children go hungry in america, that is an issue. When 51 of African American kids are unemployment or under employ at Liberty University among these communities you have some very sincere honest people who take these issues seriously. By the way, many are concerned climate change. The need to transform our Energy System away from fossil fuel they believe that the earth created by god cannot be destroyed by grief. My question was, can we Work Together to address those dickerson like to play something for that you jeb bush said on the campaign trail and get your reaction to it. Message one of hope and aspiration, wasnt one of did i kicks, get in line, well tear care of with you free stuff. Our message one that is uplifting you can achieve success. Dickerson that kind of argument that will be used against you if you use the no, maam knicks. Your Promising Health care for all free college bunch of free stuff. Unrealistic, what is your reaction . Lets be clear that jeb bush is proposing massive tax breaks for the richest people in this country. While he will fight to cut Social Security and medicare and programs that tens of millions ever elderly people and middle class people are working class people are depend upon. I happen to believe that in Democratic Civil rised society all people should be entitled to health care. I do believe that. Is it radical, no. Every other Major Industrial crisissed country does the same. That highly competitive Global Economy with hundreds ever thousands ever bright young people, cant because their family doesnt have the income. Be tuition free. Germany does it. Other countries around the world do it. They know investing in their kids is good for the economy. Well pay for that on tax. Dickerson on free college, Hillary Clinton weighed in on free college lets listen to what she said. I am not going to give free college to wealthy kids. Im not going to give free college to kids who dont work some hours to try to put their own effort into getting their education. Dickerson what is your reaction to that critique, senator . My reactions that i think if you look at my agenda the wealthy people are not particularly supportive of it. Because we are going to ask the wealthiest people in this country to pay substantially more in taxes because we have situation where they are almost earning almost all of the new income. We are going to ask large corporations, profitable corporations some cases, zero in federal income taxes to paying their fair share. But i do believe that we need a system, Free College Education for all, free tuition in public colleges and universities. I think it is simple, straight pore ward, it exists inner countries in fact 50 or 60 years ago used to exist in the United States of america. Dickerson Hillary Clinton had, quote, no interest in attacking you. Youve said you wont attack her. Do you take her at her word . I certainly do. I hope that that will be the case. Is doing well is we are focusing on the real issue that impact the middle class and working families of this country. Decline of the middle class, climate change, could runt campaign, affordability of college, et cetera. That is what i do. I happen to have known Hillary Clinton for the last 25 years, i respect her. I admire her. Im not going to get into the business of attacking her. I have never run a negative ad. There are very ugly ads against me. I hope that in this campaign we can have civil discourse, discussing our differences of opinion which are many on important issues facing our country that is what the American People want us to do. Dickerson the super pac ads is that her promise ex spends to those . Dickerson let me ask you one final, what is status of the debate more of them, any chance going to be more democratic debates . I have a feeling there will be. I think debates are good for the American People, its of it promotes serious discussion, in our kelp see see id like to see more. Dickerson thank you sore moment. When youre not confident you have complete visibility into your business, it can quickly become the only thing you think about. Thats where at t can help. At ts Innovative Solutions connect machines and people. To keep your internet of things insync, in realtime. Leaving you free to focus on what matters most. The cold truth is, coughing you cant work from home when youre sick. You need real relief. 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And parents and the community are on board all coming together. As one. To celebrate the passion and promise of our public schools. They interrupted him before he could finish. Do unto others as you [ applause ] dickerson it was possible that it had been loosened. The work that could get done with ideological foes recognized the good. How long would it last . Days, weeks . Months . The answer, less than 24 hours. Just a few minutes ago Speaker Boehner announced hell be resigning. Dickerson that was not applause for John Boehners years of service what one boehner colleague called unseemly competition of grave dancing it wasnt democrats doing the cheering it was members of boehners own party. Thats good. Thats one down. Thats 434 more to go before we done. You want to know how much each of you terrify washington . Yesterday, john boehner was speaker was house. [ applause ] yall come to town somehow that changes. Dickerson congressman tweeted it look like christmas is com