Dickerson well talk about it all in our panel get report on the latest on the migrant crisis in europe. Our book panel on discovery and innovation. David mccullough looked at the pioneers of flight in the Wright Brothers. Apollo 11 astronaut buzz aldrin aims to go from the moon onward in mission is mars and Walter Isaacson writes about hackers, geniuses and geeks to created the digital revolution. Rachel swabbie the contribution of women in science. Women who changed science in the world. All ahead on face the nation. Captioning sponsored by cbs earlier i spoke with republican president ial candidate Carly Fiorina in manchester, New Hampshire. I want to talk to you about what voters should think about when theyre thinking about nonpoliticians and being fit for the job. You had interview just after donald trump spoke to radio host, he asked some questions about islamic terrorism being commander in chief, you answered those questions, you also said what you didnt know. Donald trump had more difficulty lets listen to what he said. Do you know the players without a scorecard yet . No. You know, ill tell you honestly i think by the time we get to office they will all be changed, they will be gone. I knew were going to ask me things like, this no reason because number one ill find Douglas Mcarthur in the pack. He would delegate, get up to speed in 24 hours thats what people in business do. You were a ceo, is he right about that . I disagree with him on. That i think it is very difficult to lead if you dont have the requisite knowledge. And i think its perfectly acceptable you dont know the name of every terrorist leader. I dont always either. I do think its important to know who our enemies are. I think its important to know the difference between hamas and hezbollah. And to know as well that both of them, for example, are proxies of iran. I do think weve come to a place, though, where people realize that running for Political Office all your life isnt necessarily the most qualifying set of experiences either. We have a professional Political Class, 80 of the American People now think we have professional Political Class that is either unwilling or unable to challenge the status quo of washington and get anything done. We have festering problems in washington. Not to mention a lack of leadership around the world. I understand how the economy works, i understand how the world works and who is in it, who are our friends. And who are our enemies i understand how big bur rocca sees work which is what washington, d. C. Has come become. I understand technology and leadership. Those are the necessary experiences and qualifications to become president of the United States. Dickerson keeping with this business theme, if youre on the hiring committee would donald trump be fit to be commander in chief . Thats not a question for me thats a question for the volters of this country. I am most definitely fit to be demander in chief thats why im running for that office. Dickerson id like to ask you about Hillary Clintons server and the interview she gave. It wasnt the best choice having her own private email server but she also made another case, she said basically she came into office there was a lot going on, a lot to be focused on she wasnt really paying super close attention to the formation of her email server. As somebody who also been in top post who has had to drink from that fire hose do you find that explanation plausible . I actually dont. Because it takes a lot of work to install a private server system in your basement. It takes a lot of work to make sure that you are having the right connections to conduct both personal and professional business over that system. We know, for example, that she hired into the state department a political operative who had done i. T. Work on her campaign and for her pac that that i. T. Operative was paid 5,000 not by taxpayers but by mrs. Clinton herself to do i. T. Work on that basement server. So that actually takes a lot of work and lot of effort. So i dont think its plausible for her to say, i wasnt paying any attention she clearly was paying attention. Dickerson other news from the week id like to get your reaction to. Which is this migrant crisis, refugees, these pictures weve seen, what is the u. S. Role in this humanitarian crisis . Well, those pictures are unbelievably heartbreaking. And unfortunately we have known this crisis was coming for a very long time. This is an example of what happens when the United States fails to lead. President obama had options in syria three years ago and he failed to exercise any of those options. And he has watched as this humanitarian crisis has grown and grown. It isnt surprising, actually, that these refugees are pouring out of syria. We now have somewhere between 4306 million refugees on the move around the world because they are trying to escape conflict zones like syria. The United States, i believe, has done its fair share in terms of humanitarian aid, certainly the United States has not led as i indicated earlier. I think the United States honestly sadly cannot relax our entrance criteria. We are having to be very careful about who we let enter this country from these wartorn regions to ensure that terrorists are not coming here. I think the europeans need to continue to step up here both in terms of the amount of money they provide for humanitarian relief. They have not done as much as the United States has done on that front i also think they are beginning to step up let some of these refugees cross into their borders, but sadly this is a crisis that everyone should have known was coming for at least three years now. Dickerson Carly Fiorina, thanks for being with us. Thanks for having me, john. Dickerson were joined now by former republican president ial candidate and speaker of the house, Newt Gingrich. Mr. Speaker, i want to start with the hugh hewitt with donald trump did we learn anything meaningful about his capacity to be president . I think its a sign, a good sense the truths no National Leader knows anything about the head of the force they may have memorized the name, they dont know what school he went to or what fashion he belongs to or whether he was in moscow. This is not president ial stuff. Going to hire secretary of state, going to Hire National security advise other, going to have secretary of defense. The question real question is, so what would you do about dickerson when were thinking about, you thought when you campaigned a lot about how to do stuff in this job. Talk to me about a business person comes in, George Schulz used to say, former secretary of state, in the private sector say, do this, then got into office hed say do this, nothing would happen. Give us realistic assessment of business person comes in gets stuff done . I think secretary schulz put american government. And since he was secretary in the 1980s. Would be fascinating if trump does get in, or for that matter carson or fiorina all of whom represent outside experiences, that are they prepared to go to congress, end the Civil Service system. There is a bill, jeff miller came out of the house allow secretary of Veterans Affairs to fire any bureaucrat. Thats beginning of a revolution. Until were prepared to say, 75 of the American People according to gallup believe there is, quote, widespread corruption. Standard. 75 of the people believe that government in america is failing and needs to be changed. Dickerson ask you about trumps immigration policy. You ran, you said that the way that republicans talk about immigration was harmful to the party. Donald trump talking about deporting all undocumented workers, what is that going to do for the party . First of all, no idea what the affect of trump will be over six months or a year how change. Hes now met with the head of Hispanic Chamber of commerce, about to meet with their board. Dickerson could be softening . Hes learning. The one thing ive always found to be true with trump is, i think he learns faster than any other political figure ive known except bill clinton. Big mistake to assume that the donald trump you saw yesterday is donald trump youll see a month from now . Dickerson where should he end up by first of all actually, details of his plan is a touch back plan which was firly popular in 2007 basically says, most Illegal Immigrants would agree with this. You go back home, you file, you come back in, now obeyed the law. Not saying deport you permanent ly. I think there are lots of problems with it. We got off in 2012 i dont believe in self deportation. You can figure out ways to get much closer than that. The reason trump is having impact, the reason carson and fee lena and cruz, they have been seen as team. They represent the, were sick of all you regular guys. I think its because the American Public has now been told, for example, reagans diary in 1986, he signs the immigration bill because going to control the border. 1986. Somebody who is going to kick over the table, start a new game, i dont care about the details. Dickerson if theres a kick over the table mentality how does jeb bush operate in such a place . I have number of very good friends who are running, ive thought a lot about it. I dont know how you take this on. Everybody say, well right now, it has. Iowa its trump and carson. Explain in south carolina, trump and south carolina. Kay sick has cleverley focused his energy in New Hampshire so in New Hampshire it will be trump. If you were running how would you muscle in as somebody who is i dont have a clue. I think about this every day. I think this there is a desire on the part of the American People, which i largely agree with to profoundly change the current terms of american politics and government. They want somebody they want in different formats they want calm, stable, dr. Carson, they want energetic ceo Carly Fiorina, aggressive, hard charging ted cruz or they want bombastic, loud, running something nobody understands, running on winning. The heart of the trump model is, i want to make us a winner again. If you like to be winner ill make us a winner. Then people talk about policy questions. Id like to win. Americans out there go, i like winning. Winning sounds good to me. Dickerson well see if he actually does do it. Thanks so much for being with us. Well be back in a minute. Illion customers data was not compromised this morning in a Security Breach that didnt happen. Wall street. Not rattled. At all. No. Not at all. Not at all. I mean, look at the day. Sir. Sir. What went right . What went right . 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And the flow has been endless. The syrian migrants have been going on for months. This week a surge of thousands quickly overwhelmed struggling European Countries with no clear plan on how to handle the sheer numbers. Hung gentleman degree razor wire fence along border with serbia didnt do much to slow them down. But the budapest train station became the flash point as hungary blocked desperate migrants from boarding trains to germany and austria demanding they register for asylum first. Hag warred but defiant they set off to the border on foot. Hand. Government deployed a fleet of buses to pick them up along the highway and train station and drop them off at the boarder with austria. Having crossed into austria and onward to germany the migrants were greeted with food and drinks, cheers and open arms. It may seem that the situation is improving certainly has for those migrants who have been able to get to places like austria and germany but it is much different story for the hundreds of migrants that are arriving by the day in hungary theres no guarantee that they will be allowed to travel onward. John . Dickerson Charlie Dagata, thank you. Well be right back with our Political Panel, stay with us. Are you moving forward fast enough . Everywhere you look, it strategy is now business strategy. And a partnership with hp can help you accelerate down a path created by people, technology and ideas. To move your company from what it is now. To what it needs to become. Want to see your future . Youre me, right . engine rev i obviously havent slowed down at all what do you think . The key is to stay hungry. By the way, our wifes in there. Seriously . . The audi a8. Ambition never rests dickerson turn toe our Political Panel. The Washington Bureau chief for the wall street journal. The chief Political Correspondent nancy cordes our Congressional Correspondent and ben is the publisher of the federalist. Start with you, donald trump had a little trouble with hugh hewitt. His poll numbers will only increase. I dont think that sort of thing matters all that much the trump candidacy is about leadership not about issues. I do think theres bit of problem there which is the sleeper issue is National Security, its a dangerous world. People are frightened. The question then becomes, do you trust the person to lead in a dangerous world thats question more of demeanor than issues or policy. Ronald reagan would not have done well but he had the right demeanor. That is the question for trump. Dickerson then in conservative circles opponents of trim of who have tried to grab one of these moments say, you see, here is is there an emerging case that or provide an opportunity among conservatives . I dont think that it does. The fact is that condescension from political within the Republican Party now something that entirely is to trumps benefit. Directed towards them. The general attitudes of todd i think to jerrys point not so much sophisticated knowledge of the various people operating National Security but will this person do the right thing when the moment calls for it. I think that is something that delivers. He could stand on National Television in front of map of iran make exploding noises for 15 minutes it would amount to sophisticated view of Foreign Policy and National Security than republicans have heard. Dickerson what do you make of this . Is any other candidate in republican field have chance to take advantage of this Foreign Policy . I think it does. This is i think all the candidates rubio probably one who is best positioned to be acceptable. I think when trump declines, rubio will be i think rubio well positioned to capitalize on this underlying issue of nation natural secure. Dickerson thats his argument you got to know some stuff. You can make decisions between option a and b but if you dont know option c exists out there. Nancy, Hillary Clinton who youve spent some time with, how do they see donald trump . I heard about group of clinton fund raidsers together at party all they were talking about was donald trump . Her concern his concern with dumb that he makes everyone else in the field look mainstream. And they are trying to get the message out there that when it comes to issues like, planned parenthood, immigration, that a lot of the republican field is right there with donald trump when it comes to policy. But theyre afraid that to the average voter they see Donald Trumps position, then someone like jeb bush, hes right down the middle, thats great. Independent voter might like that theyre engaged in trying to show that when it comes to policy the republican candidates are more alike than different. I this think handed democrats a tool with that pledge. Asking all candidates to support the eventual nominee. Now next year, jeb bush signed i think, trump signed it, you can very easily say it to any republican nominee, you support trump, will you support these things that trump said. What do you make of the pledge, jerry . I think Republican NationalCommittee Chairman works behind the scenes to get Carly Fiorina in the second debate which was big deal. I think having her on outside would have lo