Enough to do that and it wasnt this one. [ laughter and applause ] china reportedly scrubbed the images of winnie the pooh from social media over the weekend, after users compared the character to their president. Though it seems like it would be easier to just get their president to put some pants on. [ laughter ] President Trump attended the u. S. Womens open Golf Tournament this weekend. So just to be safe, the golfers got changed in their cars. [ laughter ] Senate Republicans are trying to add a provision to their healthcare bill that would allow companies to offer low cost reduced coverage plans, which critics are calling junk insurance. Ill take some junk insurance, said dudes who wear really tight biking shorts. [ laughter and applause ] can never can never be too safe with the junk. Scientists were recently able to create a miniature human heart by injecting human cells into a rat heart. And im feeling so much better now, said the patient. [ laughter and applause ] i am so so happy with my new rat heart. Thank you, rat heart. [ light laughter ] and finally, a restaurant here in new york has announced theyll begin hosting weekly game of thrones themed dinners. Or for the true experience, arbys has offered to straight up kill you. [ laughter and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight. [ cheers and applause ] from the new emoji movie, one of our favorites, maya rudolph is back on the show, everybody how bout that . [ cheers and applause ] also, she is here to talk about her incredible new album melodrama and is also going to perform for us tonight. Lorde is here, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] but so youre here on a great night. But before we get to that, amid the bombshell revelations about donald trump jr. s meeting with russians, the president s Approval Rating has hit a record low, and in their desperation, trump and his allies are resorting to increasingly absurd excuses for their behavior. For more on this, its time for a closer look. [ cheers and applause ] seth the unraveling of Trumps White House has been a drag on his popularity, but he isnt just embarrassing himself at home, hes embarrassing himself abroad too. Trump, famous for his ability to ruin any handshake, took it to a new level during a brief trip to france on friday, with a bizarre threeway handshake with the president and first lady of france. Watch how long this handshake is. And while you do, i am going to read a book. [ light laughter ] [ laughter ] seth and peace. [ cheers and applause ] that that handshake was like watching a bunch of virgins at an orgy. [ laughter ] okay, i guess ill put this here and then you grab that over there, and i have no idea where this goes. [ light laughter ] but things arent all bad for trump. Today he indulged in one of his favorite pastimes, pretending to drive big trucks. When he climbed into the drivers seat of a fire truck during an event outside the white house. [ light laughter ] seth look how happy he is [ laughter ] trump treats driving a truck the same way he treats being president , he just wants to makebelieve. He doesnt actually want to do the job. If trump was actually a firefighter, hed show up to a burning building, shout fake news, and head to the nearest driving range. [ light laughter ] also, if you look into the side view mirror of the fire truck, you can see sean spicer taking trumps photo while trump sits in then front seat. [ laughter ] sean spicer [ applause ] at this point sean spicer is just an exhausted dad trying to keep up with his frenetic toddler. Okay, buddy, now just sit still for a sec. Lets get this for mom, and then i promise you can have a cookie afterwards. [ light laughter ] and trumps day of pretending to do jobs, other than president , didnt stop there. Because during a made in america event at the white house, he tried on a cowboy hat and posed for the cameras. First he pretends to be a firefighter and then he dresses up as a cowboy. Is trump trying to be all of the Village People before the end of his term . [ laughter and applause ] now, with the darkening cloud of the Russian Investigation hanging over his white house, trump has tried to jumpstart a few of the signature items on his agenda. Like, for example, the border wall. As the trump jr. Story was unfolding last week, trump spoke to reporters on air force one, and insisted the wall would get done. Although it doesnt exactly sound like the wall trump originally promised his supporters. Because now, hes saying the wall might literally be seethrough. Telling reporters last week, one of the things with the wall is you need transparency. You have to be able to see through it. You have to have openings, because you have to see whats on the other side of the wall. [ light laughter ] as horrible as it sounds when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you dont see them, they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff. Its over. [ laughter ] as crazy as that sounds, you need transparency through that wall. So, wait a minute. Trump thinks drug dealers are going to walk up to the border wall, with a 60 pound bag of drugs, and then chuck it over to another drug dealer . Its official, donald trump thinks in cartoons. [ laughter ] he probably wouldnt know a bank robbery was happening if the robber wasnt tiptoeing and carrying a bag with a dollar sign on it. I always know when i have a good idea, because the light bulb appears in my head bubble. [ laughter ] meanwhile, the russia scandals engulfed the white house, after last weeks bombshell revelation that trumps son, donald trump jr. , met with a woman described as a russian government attorney, promising dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of russia and its Government Support for mr. Trump. One trump ally called it a category five hurricane, and a white house official said, this is sum of all fears stuff. What weve all been dreading. Maybe youve been dreading it, but the rest of us have been waiting for it like the new season of game of thrones. [ cheers and applause ] and one way you can really tell it was a category five hurricane, is that don jr. Kept lying, and changing his stories. His detail about the meeting slowly emerged over the course of several days. First he said, it had nothing to do with the campaign, it was just a short introductory meeting about the adoption of russian children. The next day he admitted the lawyer promised dirt on hillary, but said her statements were vague, ambiguous, and made no sense. The day after that, he said the meeting was normal Opposition Research that went nowhere, but had to listen. And then finally, after releasing all the emails, he insisted the meeting was fine, because it occurred before the current russian fever was in vogue. Okay, first of all, in vogue . Its a criminal conspiracy to meddle in an election, not a romphim. Ah, take it down take it down. [ laughter ] second, he changed his story four times in four days. Thats like if your wife asked where were you last night . And you said, i was at work. I mean, i was working, at a coworkers house. At a friends house, at a female friends house, in a female friends bed, but nothing came of it [ laughter ] so don jr. Changed his story repeatedly, but when he went on fox news last week to try and clear the air, he insisted that he was being forthright about the meeting, and nothing else would come out. As far as this incidents concerned, this is all of it. This is everything. This is everything. Seth great. So, he may have changed his story four times in four days, but now everythings out there, and there are no more undisclosed details. Got it . This has been a closer what we begin with breaking news surrounding a secret meeting last summer between Trump Campaign officials and a russian lawyer. We have to revisit the number of people thought to be at that donald trump jr. Meeting with a russian lawyer, because that number has changed again. Brand new today, a russian american lobbyist who served as a in a spy unit of the soviet military. He was there, too. Nobody mentioned that. [ laughter ] seth you know, at this rate, i wouldnt be surprised if we found out that putin himself was at this meeting. [ light laughter ] now that i think about it, i did see a guy on a horse peeking out from the white board. [ laughter ] at this point, the only member of the trump team who im sure didnt meet with the russians, was eric. Jared, meet with the russian ambassador. Don jr. , talk to the russian lawyer. And eric, get back under the stairs father, no [ laughter ] i want to collude, father so now, because of these changing stories and constant lies, lawmakers are preparing to escalate the Russian Investigation to begin exploring potential law breaking, and interview the participants under oath to prevent them from changing their stories again. As senator Sheldon Whitehouse explained. If theres been a legal violation here, and this is very strong indications that there has, then youre dealing with things like indictments and the house potentially beginning impeachment proceedings, and people having to Start Talking under oath instead of just, you know, talking out into the airwaves, where they lie as easily as they breathe. Seth i dont think trump lies as easily as he breathes, i think lying is his breathing. Inhale oxygen. Exhale 1. 5 Million People came to my inauguration. [ laughter ] trump lies like a whale coming up for air. Im like a smart person. [ laughter and applause ] seth so now so now with the stakes getting higher, the attempted explanations coming from trumps team, for don jr. s meeting with the russians are once again changing and getting increasingly ridiculous. Remember, trump and his team argued for months that there was absolutely no contact, let alone collusion with russian agents. But now that the don jr. Email is out, theyve shifted to a new story, that if there was collusion, it was totally fine. In fact, today, trump himself tweeted, most politicians would have gone to a meeting like the one don jr. Attended, in order to get info on an opponent. Thats politics. No, its not. Politics is running attack ads, and kissing babies, and going down on a corn dog at the iowa state fair. [ laughter ] rick perry, everybody. Just because something is political, doesnt mean its just politics. If John Wilkes Booth had shot lincoln and then went, hey, thats politics, they still wouldve arrested him. But trump might be getting his cues from his allies on fox news, who have spent the last few days making a similar argument. Like one of trumps favorite hosts, jeanine pirro, who said this on saturday. As someone whos run for office five times, if the devil called me and said he wanted to set up a meeting to give me Opposition Research on my opponent, id be on the first trolley to hell to get it. Seth why do Trump Supporters go out of their way to make themselves sound as nefarious as possible . [ laughter ] i wasnt looking for dirt on my opponent, but when lord lucifer called i happily traded him my soul and my human voice for the one he gave me now. [ laughter and applause ] but one of the most absurd excuses came from a member of the trumps legal team, jay sekulow. Who went on the sunday shows yesterday, and argued that it was actually the secret services fault for letting the russians into trump tower in the first place. Well, ive wonder why they the secret service, if this was nefarious, whyd the secret service allow these people in . The president had secret Service Protection at that point. That raised a question with me. Seth yes, i was speeding officer, but maybe ask toyota why they sold me a car that goes 90 miles per hour. [ laughter ] also, as the secret service itself pointed out yesterday, donald trump jr. Was not under secret Service Protection in june 2016. Only trump himself had that protection, and his team claims trump didnt know about the meeting. So wait, did trumps own lawyer just accidentally admit that trump did know about the meeting, by implying the secret service would have vetted it . Id say thats not possible, but its important to remember the golden rule of the trump era, nothing is too stupid to be true. [ light laughter ] the trump team is going to start putting that on inspirational posters. [ light laughter ] so the trump team has tried blaming it on secret service and claiming its just normal politics. And if those arguments sound unconvincing to you, that may be why fox news host eric bolling went back to an old standby, its all hillarys fault. On friday, he tried to argue that the don jr. Meeting proves that it was actually hillary, who was colluding with the russians, by tying the russian lawyer in the meeting to a Democratic Research firm called fusion gps. Fusion gps is the group youre talking about. Right. Its somehow connected through one of these one of these people who are at the meeting. Not sure which one. One of em, some italian. Connected to fusion gps, who also was connected, fusion gps, to the Opposition Research. The russian dossier completely correct christopher steele, the british operative, who put together this russian dossier, somehow got payment from fusion gps. So, instead of pointing the finger at donald trump jr. And saying maybe hes colluding. Mo, big word. Colluding with the russians, maybe the russians were colluding with Hillary Clinton to get information on donald trump. Seth what . [ laughter ] have you been near the Mexican Border recently . Because you sound like you got hit in the head with a big bag of drugs. [ laughter and applause ] but of course, don jrs not the only member of the trump team whos been been implicated in this latest bombshell. Trumps soninlaw and advisor, jared kushner, as well as Campaign Chairman, paul manafort, were both copied on the email and attended the meeting. So whats their excuse . They both claim they didnt read the email. Kushner claims that he did not scan to the bottom of the email thread, forwarded by his brotherinlaw, therefore completely missing the part about russia and its government. And a source close to manafort told politico on tuesday, that the Campaign Chairman hadnt read all the way to the bottom of the email exchanges on his phone. And i might have believe that, except for the fact that the subject line of this email was literally regarding russia clinton private and confidential. [ laughter ] theres no way you didnt read an email with that subject line. Thats like not reading the last line of a dirty limerick. Lets see, the guys from nantucket, ah, thats probably the main take away. [ light laughter ] now, this latest revelation has major implications for both manafort and kushner. But kushner especially, is vulnerable to legal repercussions because he repeatedly failed to disclose this and other meetings with russians on his security clearance forms. So, how does kushner, the white house aide supposedly in charge of middle east peace for the Trump White House explain the omission. According to yahoo news, his lawyers have said that a member of his staff had prematurely hit the send button for the form before it was completed. So, he doesnt read emails to the end, and sends documents before theyre completed. He seems on top of it. [ light laughter ] at least hes only in charge of u. S. China relations, u. S. Mexico relations, criminal justice reform, Opioid Crisis management, the White House Office of american innovation, and middle east peace. Hows peace in the middle east going jared . Im working on an email right now oh, no i hit send oh, no. 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Vincent. His solo album, inndweller, is available now at cdbaby. Com. Matt johnson is here, everybody. Thank you. [ cheers and applause ] thank you. Seth our first guest tonight is an emmynominated actress and comedian. You know her from her work on saturday night live, and films such as bridesmaids and sisters. She stars in the emoji movie, which is in theaters july 28th. Lets take a look. So, howd it go gabble . Hey light bulb, tell me whats going on in there . What . Who . What is it . Tell me true, what happened . I know it was an accident. We all have accidents. Youre so soft, poop. Not too soft, i hope. Jean. We were just going to go looking for you. Why dont you come inside the board room and we can have a teenyweeny chat . Seth please welcome back to the show, our very good friend, maya rudolph, everybody [ cheers and applause ] seth woo woo seth im always its so great to see you. Im so happy to have you here. Im so happy to see you. Always. Um, i wish i saw you more. I have to come to new york sometimes to see, which is a drag. But this is our meeting place. Seth this is our meeting place. Old friends. This is our new meeting spot. Seth and so you youre smiler. Thats your thats you playing emoji. Yeah, im like a really intense office manager. Seth now did you how did you get into character for smiler, the emoji . Thats a great question, seth. Seth thank you. [ laughter ] i work really hard at smiling a lot. Seth did you actually smile while you were talking . I actually did have to. Thats not thats not a lie. I found that its really hard for me. Seth smiling is hard for you or talking while youre smiling . Talking through smiling is intense, because theres a lot of i guess im a real downer when i talk. I guess i kind of talk like this. Seth yeah, that. That sounds like the maya i know. Thats what sounds like me, right . Seth yeah, thats you. What are you doing . Seth yeah. Thats the maya i know. Its like eeyore. Like when you talk to me, its like youre talking to eeyore, right . Seth yeah. That makes sense. But smiler is like is more like the muscles are activated up here. And im just not that kind of person. Seth no, that is a very unnatural thing. That looks horrible. That looks terrifying. Which is actually good, cause shes a little terrifying. Seth yeah. ÷ but have you does it so the muscles. Would you do an hour at a time, two hours at a time . Yeah, you gotta take breaks. You gotta drink a lot of water. You gotta sometimes like stretch. Seth okay, interesting. [ laughter ] stretch this part or the whole rep. Just this part. Seth just those, yeah. Just these muscles. Seth yeah. Would you just like, rest one on the side of the table . Yeah, you rest one on the table like this. And then you do like a pushup. Seth got me, yeah that makes sense. [ laughter ] it feels really good. Seth you have you have four children. Yes. Seth are your children going to see the emoji movie . Oh, theyre pretty stoked. Seth okay, got you. Like, my 3yearold obviously doesnt have a phone, because that would make me a monster. Seth yeah. But she knows what emojis Everybody Knows what emojis are. Today is world emoji day. Seth today is world emoji day . Today is the day, guys. Seth wow, amazing. Yeah. [ light applause ] seth was that the thing before the movie . No. Seth okay. [ light laughter ] yeah. So it was kind of like a nice little tiein. They were like, weve got an idea, lets capitalize on this. Seth have your kids seen your films . They have, but ill be honest like im a little oldfashioned. Like pearl is now 11, shes my oldest. And she complains all the time that all of her friends have seen bridesmaids except for her. But i feel like, you know, theres some like racy its not bad but its more like language. Theres a little bit like maybe the first scene is a little racy. Seth yeah. Well like, she knows what pooping is, which is fine. But i have to say now seth i will say, you can know what pooping is, and still, if you were her mom it would be very traumatic to see how you poop in that movie . [ laughter ] it might be. You might be right. I feel like im making a smart choice. But then the system failed because then we thought it would be a good idea to show them austin powers 1 and 2. Seth uhhuh. So i was like hanging out with the kids. Everyones like, oh, no. But, like, we were hanging out and someone was talking and pearl just like brought up a penis pump. I was like, how do you know what a penis pump is . She was like, austin powers [ laughter ] good job, mom. Seth yeah, thats not a kids movie. Nope. Your 3yearold ours is coming up on two. Is it a cute age, three . Do you like very verbal . Oh my god, theyre so are you getting the cute verbals . Seth were getting a little. The beginnings of words, yes. Does he have like words that you cant stop making him say . Seth no. Its more like everything is that. Hes just constantly da da love that so much. Seth yeah. Very hes like a baby tour guide. [ laughter ] in a minute he wakes up, youd say, how are you . He goes, da da youre like, okay, lets just get on with it. Its only going to get better from here on out. We had like i said, pearl is now 11. Shes my oldest. But for years, she called we used to go to my dads house and get in the jacuzzi and she calls it cachuzzi. And so like, to this day im like, lets get in the cachuzzi. And shell be like, mom, its a jacuzzi. [ laughter ] no, its not. Seth oh, so you dont want to give up the baby words. I dont want to give it up. Seth see, this is an interesting argument my wife and i are having, because my family did not give up the baby words. We just kept them. So, to this day, i and my brother call breakfast, breffix. And so when i say it to ashe, my wife is pointing out, no, you cant teach him the baby word. That he has to teach us the baby words. We cant youre like, that does not compute. Seth and my thing was, maybe if we use breffix, his baby word for it will be breakfast. [ laughter ] that is so damn adorable. Seth yeah. I love breakfixed. Seth breffix. You say breffix . Seth breffix. Breffix. Were you from the south side of chicago . Seth yeah. Breffix. Were gonna go out and get some breffix. Where my breffix . Seth um, you have a wonderful Melania Trump impression. But you have a take on ivanka trump. Well, ive been noticing actually, our good friend, amy poehler was the one that pointed it out to me lately. She sent like one of her many interviews where she was talking about something. Oh, it was when she wasnt involved in she doesnt get involved in politics. cause that makes sense. Seth yeah, shes not involved in politics. No, well theyre politics. cause that makes sense too. Both like youre an advisor to a president. Seth but not into politics. We get it. We get it. But she pointed out, she was like, theres a lot of whispering going on. And so i noticed like, she was like through her teeth. But she like kind of talks like she has like a sexy secret. [ laughter ] shes like always talking, like she works in a Lingerie Store a little bit. [ laughter ] like, if you want to get the matching panties, you can get them, but theyre 14. 95. [ laughter ] also dont quote stuff thats real, because that just makes you look really stupid. [ light laughter ] and then everything was like a grin. Like im sorry, do you have a sexy secret . Seth its fun to have someone around who has a sexy its fun to have a sexy secret. Seth you know what else is fun . Wigs. Oh, god. Seth so, you when you met with lorne michaels. Yeah. Seth this is your meeting like basically hes seen your audition, hes liked your audition, and he brings you in to kind of get a sense of you. It was the worlds worst Job Interview ive ever had in my life. Seth yeah. Like on my death bed, im gonna be like, i remember that, it was so bad. But i was sitting in lornes office and he actually asked me a question, why do you think you should work here . And i said, because i like wearing wigs. Seth and that was it though . Good one, maya. And that got me the job. Seth this actually brings us to a new segment on the show. This is the first time were doing it. And were really only probably ever going to do it with you. [ light laughter ] please welcome the basket of wigs. [ cheers and applause ] yes yes [ applause ] seth so we had a friend, dear friend of ours, james anderson, a writer on snl. He always had a basket of wigs in his office. God bless always. Seth and what would happen, youre just gonna grab a wig at random. You can grab glasses here if you want. Thank you. Seth and youre just gonna let it just create a character. By the way, this is something that would have happened without an audience in james office. Seth oh, yeah. All right, im gonna go through the basket of wigs. Well, i guess ill start at the top. Here we go. That makes sense. Seth yeah. [ light laughter ] it also looks like one of those this looks like one of those things you get in a baseball game thats like the players hair on top of your hair. Maybe that makes more sense. Seth, wheres my breffix . [ laughter ] seth you need your glasses . Theyre right in front of you. Oh, thank goodness. [ light laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] im so hungry why wont you feed me my breffix . Seth grandma, your breffix has been out all morning. Its the eggs that you asked for. I cant remember a thing. Seth okay, thats great. I like that. Wow, this game is sending me to wig heaven. [ applause ] i want you to pick one now. Seth all right, im going to pick one. Im gonna do this. There. No glasses. I cant wait to see, like, hugh jackman do this when he comes. And all the trumps. Seth wheres my breffix. Um, guys, i just need to tell you something. Someone threw up in the hallway. [ laughter ] theres a lot of vomit in the hallway. And im not cleaning it up. So whoevers responsible, is going to have to go home. Seth thats great. Thank you. Seth i really like that. [ applause ] very wow. Sadly, i feel like ive worn this wig before. Yeah, i definitely have. I keep trying to check out the monitor like its a mirror. Baba ba baby dont forget my number nobody remembers Milly Vanilly . Just me . [ cheers and applause ] basket of wigs basket of wigs coming to you live from seth meyers wow [ laughter ] seth first date. First date. Um, i just want to be clear on your tinder, it said you like breath mints, but you dont like to eat them. Seth i like to keep them in my mouth until they dissolve. [ laughter ] joshua, thats the most fascinating thing about you. Seth and is it true that youre a model for the people who make mannequins . [ laughter ] yes. They use my body as the shape, and my face for the inspiration. [ laughter ] seth basket of wigs, everyone [ cheers and applause ] maya rudolph, everybody. 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Discover Social Security alerts. [ cheers and applause ] seth our next guest is a grammy awardwinning artist and incredibly talented musician whose sophomore record, melodrama, is available now. Please welcome to the show lorde, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] seth how are you . Im very well, how are you . Seth its so great to see you again, im so happy to have you here. Im also very happy because weve only met once before, and i feel like we met at a very cool place. We met a cool place, but we were like not cool. Seth yes. Okay, good. We were distinctly not cool. Seth we distinctly did not fit in. We were at a kanye west fashion show. [ light laughter ] we were. And it was like a very fancy backstage. Seth yeah. Drake was back there. Seth yep. Which always, you know, makes for a fancy room. Seth yeah. And you and i were just like, what are we doing here . Weve made a huge mistake. Seth yeah. It was like i felt that i was so uncool as to be almost invisible. Yeah. Seth like somebody came by with champagne and i reached out, and the glasses just like went through my hand. [ light laughter ] i mean, i too it wasnt our greatest day. Seth well, its nice to see you here, where we can hopefully be a little bit more comfortable than then. Congrats on this album. What i heard is wonderful. This is your second album. And did you feel, because of the success of the first album did you feel a pressure to get this right . Or do you just wait for the songs to come to you . I mean, i definitely felt a pressure like for it not to suck. Because they feel like a lot of people would have been really bummed out by that. And also just like, i really like making records that i love and that im really proud of. So, it did take a while, but i knew i couldnt kind of you know, follow up what happened in the same way. So i would just try and do it in a different good way. Seth how much time after the first album did was your mind opened to sort of new material . Did you give yourself time to just sort of be in that moment, or did you kind of not decide when you sort of have new inspiration for music . Yeah, you kind of dont get to decide. The universe is like yes, no, maybe . But we finished writing in like, only in like, february of this year or something, so seth and you work with jack antonoff, who is a fantastic musician and a wonderful guy. And so, how did you know him beforehand . Because i would imagine a producer when you know, a unique voice, its a very important decision to make as to far as who you work with. It is, and im a producer as well so, you know, thats definitely a consideration when im working with people. No, jack is amazing. We actually met, i met lena before i met him and then, i met him a couple of times. And then i kind of just walked into the studio with him and we both knew that like, we were gonna leave that studio for two years. Like, hes an amazing person. Hes so truly strange and hes like my sibling now. Seth thats great. And then do you when you have disagreements with someone youre that close with, what happens . I mean, i think were pretty good at this point at like kind of talking it out. Hes like my work husband. Seth thats good. Lena will like, pop down the hole and be like, how are you guys doing . Were like, good. But no, i mean, we would like we would share food. Theres this thing called a protein box from starbucks. Do you know about this . Seth i dont know the protein box. You probably dont, because youre quite fancy, but seth okay. [ light laughter ] its like a hard boiled egg, and two pieces of cheese and some grapes. Seth oh yeah, no. I have a hard boiled egg, three pieces of cheese. Yeah, right, right, right. [ light laughter ] so we would eat like half of the protein bar. Seth yeah. Im a little fancier than two pieces. Yeah. [ light laughter ] so wed go halves and that would sort of help us seth okay, gotcha. Well, thats good. As long as youre getting your protein. Because i will say, i listen to the songs and you can really hear the protein. [ laughter ] yeah, good. Thats what i was seth you, in the notes, you thanked the new york city subway. I have never in my time here heard anyone say, thank you, subway. [ laughter ] so what was it about the new york city subway that you felt in debt to . Well, i mean okay, and heres i feel like i need to disclaim by, you know, i understand if youve lived here for a long time, you caught the subway 5,000 times, you would hate it. Seth yeah. For me, it still has a bit of romance. Even though i did get stuck on it for four hours. Seth oh, you were on the train that got stuck for four hours . Yes, i was. Yes, i was. Seth oh my goodness, that sounded really awful. Sitting on the floor for four hours. Seth wow. And when youre sitting on the floor for four hours, does anyone notice that lorde is on the train . I dont know if they noticed. All i could think about was that i had a little oatmeal sachet in my bag and i was like, if anyone finds out, this is gonna be like prized commodity. [ laughter ] like, its gonna be like lost. This will be my family now. Seth yeah. Im gonna be here forever. Seth thats good. See, i would have immediately thought, oh what can i barter with my oatmeal . Like can get off people . What can you barter down there, though . Like, more food . Seth i would just try to i would just raise the price. I would be like, this usually is a dollar but now its 150. Give me your seat. [ light laughter ] you sit on the floor, give me the seat. Seth exactly. No, but i love the subway. I feel like it was really nice riding this frequently. I would kind of sit there and listen to the work and it helped me be around people. You know, because when youre working in a studio youre very isolated and kind of just hang out with a couple of people. So i feel like it sort of reintroduced me into society. And people would be very sweet, theyd kind of you know, someone would be like and sort of do a little look and id be like [ laughter ] seth so i was reading an article where you were talking and has this been your whole life . This the way you see colors . Oh, yes. Seth well, i guess what is it . Its not that you hear explain it for me. Okay, so its called synesthesia and basically its like when the senses overlap in some way. So for me, music and words kind of have colors and textures and forms. And its like this weird abstract thing, but making music is a really visual process for me. Seth and so then, is that how do you describe your music in colors . Like if you were talking to jack, do you say like this is a little too yeah, i try hard to keep the color things away from like synesthesia muggles, because they feel like its super annoying. [ light laughter ] i would definitely like i would kind of i would slip and be like, it just doesnt look very nice. And he would be like, what do you want me to do with that information . Like, theres nothing there. Seth what would you say are the colors of this album . Oh, well. They are the colors of the a lot of the colors in the actual cover painting itself, so violets and blues. Seth the cover is beautiful. And after i read that i sort of looked at the album art and having listened to some of the songs, i had a real understanding. Again, and im a muggle, ill admit. [ laughter ] it did make total sense to me. So i will say, you really nailed it if those were the colors you were looking for. Thank you. Seth and im just so happy to have you here and thank you so much for singing a song off the album. We cant wait. Oh my goodness, thank you. What a pleasure for me. [ cheers and applause ] seth give it up for lorde, everybody. For dates and information on the current world tour melodrama, check out her website. Well be right back with a performance from lorde. 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