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Transcripts For WCAU Dateline NBC 20160307

Did Nicole Brown Simpson actually predict her own death . What she said to us was oj is gonna kill me and hes gonna get away with it. Reporter what really went on in the jury room . Not guilty of a crime of murder. All people wanted to do was go home. And, in a frank, new interview, prosecutor marcia clark answers the most important question of all. Reporter how did you not convict this guy . Reporter well also hear from oj simpson himself who told his story under oath in these explosive deposition tapes. If her face was black and blue the next day or two days later i was responsible for it. Reporter and now questions about a knife supposedly found at oj simpsons old house. Obviously there is a lot of attention to this. Reporter the oj simpson case, two decades later. Im lester holt and this is dateline. Heres josh mankiewicz. Reporter june 12, 1994, brentwood, california. Two horrific murders that came to be defined by just three o. J. , please surrender immediately. Orenthal james simpson. I have o. J. In the car. We do have sufficient evidence to convict him. 100 not guilty. How about that . If it doesnt fit you, you must acquit. Not guilty of the crime of murder. Reporter it was the story that wouldnt go away. If you lived here, and by here we mean the united states, you had an opinion. A nation made room in its collective consciousness for this collision of pop culture and legal drama. More than 20 years ago, it touched issues we still cant agree on today race, money, privilege, fame, interracial marriage, domestic violence. Get out of the way reporter this became televisions first reality show. The case consumed us, and then divided us. Even now, two decades later, we are still fascinated. What do you want me to do, o. J. . I should die. No. A new tenpart dramatic series airing on fx, the people vs o. J. Simpson is winning ratings and reviews. Because there are still questions about what really happened that night in brentwood. And why, despite a Staggering Amount of evidence, oj simpson was acquitted. O. J. , o. J. , o. J. reporter tonight well provide some answers with interviews done over the years, rare footage and haunting memories. Including a recent indepth and candid interview with prosecutor marcia clark who doesnt hold back when discussing her unique perspective on the case on everything from the infamous bronco chase im thinking he was like the biggest idiot ever. To the trial of the century. Every day, wed walk into court and Something Else was blowing up. Not guilty of the crime of murder. Reporter and of course the verdict. Reporter you blame yourself for this . You know, i always do. I do. Reporter it was a cool, late spring evening in brentwood. Around midnight a couple was walking a dog down a quiet section of south bundy drive when something strange caught their attention. Then at the entrance to a condominium numbered 875, they saw it. A body in a river of blood. Police arrived and discovered a second victim. Investigators would soon follow, including veteran homicide detective tom lange. This isnt a robbery. This isnt for sex. This was a rage killing. Nicole was nearly decapitated. Reporter nicole was 35year old Nicole Brown Simpson, the exwife of oj simpson. Near the bodies was a bloody leather glove, an envelope with a pair of eyeglasses and a blue knit cap. Cops later idd the male victim as 25yearold ronald goldman. At this point they didnt know much about him. Theres numerous wounds on the neck. Goldman put up a fight. Reporter asleep inside the house were the simpsons two children, sydney and justin, who hadnt heard a thing. They were taken to a nearby police station. We need next of kin to take care of these kids. We need to find oj simpson. Reporter as dawn broke in brentwood, lange and three other detectives were sent to simpsons estate on nearby rockingham avenue. One of them was detective mark fuhrman. Arriving detectives feared the worst that simpson may have suffered the same fate as his exwife. Weve just left a bloody crime scene. Is simpson in there as one of the victims . Reporter so without a search warrant, detective fuhrman jumped the wall and let in the other cops. In one of the estates bungalows detectives found simpsons 25yearold daughter arnelle. They learned that her father was out of town on a business trip in chicago. In the other bungalow detectives wokeup a shaggy haired young man named brian kato kaelin. Kaelin had been living at simpsons house for five months. He had come to la to be an actor, and now he was about to star in the role of his life, answering questions about where hed last seen simpson. I had seen him earlier in the day, and he was talkin about women problems. He needed someone to talk to, and i was the only guy probably available. Reporter this wasnt normally the relationship you had with him . Absolutely not. Reporter later that evening, kaelin said, simpson came by his door to get change for a 100 bill and also mentioned getting something to eat. So just after 9 00 pm they hopped in simpsons bentley and went to mcdonalds. Did simpson ask kaelin to go with him to establish an alibi . I invited myself. He didnt ask me. And i thought, oh. I was starving. Reporter kaelin told detectives they got back around 9 40pm. He returned to his bungalow and didnt see simpson again for approximately an hour an a half. Then around 10 45 pm kaelin says he heard three strange sounds. It was a loud it was a banging noise. If someone bumped into a wall. Reporter kaelin came outside to check on the noise and saw limo driver allan park at the gate waiting to take simpson to the airport. A few minutes later, simpson came out of the house. His luggage was loaded and the limo sped off. Kaelins story seemed to add up, so now it was simpson the cops really wanted to talk to. He was at his hotel in chicago when detectives told him what happened in la. There were no details given except nicole was dead. He said, well, ill be on the next plane back there. Reporter now came another phone call, the one tom lange dreaded, notifying nicoles family. I hear that phone ring and i hear a scream from my moms room. That i had never heard before. And it was just awful, awful, awful. Reporter denise brown, nicoles older sister, remembers rushing to her mothers room. She says, your sister is dead. And i said, oh my god, he did it. He killed her. Reporter he being oj simpson, denises former brotherinlaw. Detective lange was stunned at this sudden new lead. That was my first inkling that perhaps simpson was involved in this. Reporter nicoles family, devastated in an instant, continued the grim task, and called her best friend kris jenner. I was like what . What do you mean nicole died . I was like, it was devastating. I think i almost passed out. It was just the worst feeling you could possibly imagine. Reporter kris had known nicole since 1978. They met through her former husband Robert Kardashian, who was simpsons best friend and attorney. Kris adored simpson too, she said, like a big brother. He was very charming, a lotta fun to be around. You could tell he was the type of person who really enjoyed life. Reporter kris and nicole had become fast friends and the two couples were like family. Now, all of that was suddenly gone. Everyones life changed. Nicole died, and nothing would ever be the same. Reporter the world had changed forever for kris jenner, for the brown and goldman families, and for oj simpson who would soon be back home in la where a trail of evidence led right to his front door. No, im not a big football fan. But i know who he is now. Joint pain and swelling in as little as two weeks, and help stop further joint damage. Xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. 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Blood was everywhere, and leading from it, a trail of bloody shoe prints. Near the bodies was a bloody lefthanded glove and a blue knit cap. And inside the walls of simpsons Rockingham Estate detective mark fuhrman was went behind kato kaelins bungalow and discovered a moist, bloody glove, similar to the one at the crime scene. So we look at the glove and it looks like the same type. Reporter and it was a righthanded glove . Yeah. The same everything. Reporter detectives also found a trail of blood drops on simpsons driveway leading from the white ford bronco parked on the street. Lange braced himself for what was to come. This is very sensitive now. Its a celebrity case. At midnight last night, a passerby observed the body, a female white body and a male white body. Reporter by now the news media had the first sketchy reports. Deputy District Attorney marcia clark was with the special trials unit. She was consulted about getting a search warrant for rockingham by tom langes partner, detective Phil Vannatter who already considered simpson a suspect. He goes, you know who it is . O. J. Simpson. Whos that . Oh, wait. Oh yeah, naked gun. Hertz commercial, right . Reporter youre not a big football fan . No, wasnt a big football fan. But i know who he is now. Reporter some 13 hours after the murders, simpson returned to la from chicago, a journey that took him from household name to potential suspect. You never thought of him as a killer . No, no, no. To me, he was bigger than life, and had a great personality. He loved, you know, being o. J. Simpson. Bad enough that simpson might be involved in the murder of her best friend, but now kris was further conflicted because her former husband, Robert Kardashian, was simpsons longtime personal attorney. Kardashian was also at rockingham and was caught on camera carrying what appeared to be simpsons garment bag. Much has been speculated about what might have been in that bag. Could you conceive of him loving his friend so much that he would help him dispose of evidence . Absolutely not. I guarantee you 150 that he had this character and integrity and christian values and believed in the truth. O. J. , what can you say about this . Back off, get out of the way. Dont know anything . Reporter detectives now wanted to bring in simpson for questioning. His attorney, howard weitzman, said his client would fully cooperate. Hes shocked, he had nothing to do with this tragedy. Reporter after arriving at Police Headquarters, simpsons lawyers met privately with him and then went to lunch. Leaving their client alone with two veteran homicide detectives Phil Vannatter and tom lange. I was flabbergasted. Unless he just thinks hes glib enough to do say anything he wants and hes gonna get around us. Reporter detectives and o. J. Simpson now settled into a small Interrogation Room for a critical interview that could make or break the case. It would be the first and last time simpson would tell his story to police. Coming up i know, im the number one target, and now you tell me ive got blood all over the place. Reporter oj simpson knows just how bad things look. And hes not the only one. When dateline continues. To switch up to 650 per line. 650 . Really . Yup so switch today. Im bushed ive been on my feel alyea me too. Excuse me. Coming through ride the gel wave of comfort with dr. Scholls massaging gel insoles. Theyre proven to give you comfort. Which helps you feel more energized. All day long. I want what he has. Why am i a fan Fan Favorites quesadilla burger . Its a burger. Inside a quesadilla. Genius. Hot. Melty. Cheese. Fresh. Pico de gallo. Woah. Mind blown. Everyones a fan with applebees 2 for 20 Fan Favorites. [alarm bell ringing] oh no, the car told ya somebody shouldve waited in the car. It says theres a black car three minutes away im not taking one of those. That one they gave authorities the slip, in a prius. Now the four mostwanted men in the world are stealing our hearts. Is that us . I think thats us public support is at a fever pitch. What started as an amateur heist is now a global phenomenon. One does have to wonder, how long can this chase go on . Look, were trending let me see that. Were famous toyota. Lets go places. In pennsylvania . Second most famous groundhog i dont have enough fingers ben ok gus, make a wish that was some blowout. Thanks, so are these wow, the new blowout instant games from the pennsylvania lottery, with over 225 million in prizes. Did someone say blowout . keep on scratchin when you think what does it look like . Is it becoming a better professor by being a more adventurous student . Is it one day giving your daughter the opportunity she deserves . Is it finally witnessing all the artistic wonders of the Natural World . Whatever your definition of success is, helping you pursue it, is ours. Tiaa. Reporter parker center. In 1994, Police Headquarters in downtown l. A. It has seen scores of high profile murder investigations and thousands of interrogations, but on that june afternoon, very narcissistic, selfassured. Has to be in charge at all times. Reporter cops were drawn to a cut on simpsons left middle finger, and this is where simpsons answers started becoming more vague. How did you get the injury on your hand . I dont know. Not the first time, when i was in chicago and all, but at the house i was just running around. How did you do it in chicago . I broke a glass. One of you guys had just called me, and i was in the bathroom, and i just kind of went bonkers for a little bit. Is that how you cut it . Mmm, it was cut before, but i think i just opened it again, im not sure. Reporter police had found a blood trail from the bronco to his house. Now simpson offered a few new details to help explain it. So do you recall bleeding at all . Yeah, i mean, i knew i was bleeding, but it was no big deal. I bleed all the time. I play golf and stuff, so theres always something, nicks and stuff here and there. We dont know what direction this is gonna take us. But theres enough that, i want your blood. I want to document that finger. I want your fingerprints. Reporter by now, simpson appeared to be sensing trouble and attempted to straighten out his story. I know im the number one target, and now you tell me ive got blood all over the place. Is that your blood thats there . If its dripped, its what i dripped running around trying to leave. Reporter then after just 32 minutes, detectives wrapped up their interview and whisked simpson to a lab where he was printed, his finger photographed and most importantly, his blood drawn. If this guy is our suspect, his blood is gonna convict him. At the core of this case is blood, blood everywhere. And hes got the the evidence that we want in his body. Mr. Simpson are you a suspect . Reporter for now, simpson was allowed to leave. Anything you can tell us . Reporter that may have been a measure of his celebrity, or that police had suspicions they couldnt yet back up. But back at simpsons estate more evidence was turning up, including a pair of bloody socks on his bedroom floor. And at the crime scene itself, more blood drops were swabbed from the walkway leading to the alley, suggesting the killer was bleeding as he fled. We have now videotape showing the bodies of simpsons exwife and an unidentified man as they were removed from a walkway in front of her west side condominium. Reporter monitoring all of this from her office at the criminal courts building was deputy d. A. Marcia clark, who had not yet been officially assigned the case. Did you campaign to be put on this case . At that time, it was just another big case. Thats what our unit did in special trials. We handled high profile murder cases. That was it. Its a good case, so of course, i wanted it. Did i want it for fame and fortune . Hell, no reporter all that day fred goldman had been following the news reports about those murders in brentwood. He had no idea how much or in how many ways his life was about to change. Because when fred got home, he and his wife received a phone call from the coroners office. And this individual said to me, did you hear on the news today that nicole brown was killed . Well, your your son was the other person. Thats

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