Probably about 150 so far coming through there, checking them all out. About 20 yards that way, making sure that theyre safe and that their names are on a list. They dont want anybody blending in with the bystanders. And the stories we hear from the people are that some of them heard the gunfire and they had to shelter in place for about an hour before finally s. W. A. T. Teams moved in, as we mentioned throughout this special report, going door to door inside that pretty vast building, taking people out, leading them to safety at a golf course just over there. And theyve been waiting there for the past couple of hours. Inside the building we still dont know what is going on. Officials told me moments ago they are finally going to have a press conference at the bottom of the hour at 4 30 eastern time. And theyll fill us in on more of the details that of course we wanted to know. But in terms of the scene here, it is absolutely packed with police, ambulances, and everybody just trying to help. George . And matt, the witnesses you were able to get to, that you long the shooting went on . It seemed to go on for minutes, but of course when you talk to people who have witnessed a shooting, the sense warped. Some people said it went on for a while. Other people didnt know. Some people didnt know about the shooting at all. Thats a testament how big this building. It seems to some degree that learning from eyewitness testimony. But it seems to some degree that the shooting was confined to if not a couple or one specific place, or a couple of specific places, not the entirety of that building. The president of that Inland Regional Center said theyre focused on a building that house about 25 employees with a Conference Center is. And one of the things i hope you can find out before we come back to you next, if we can find out what kind of an event was being held at this Conference Center today. Have you gotten any more information on that . Not at all. People are still pretty jarred coming out of here. Have been out in the sun for the past couple of hours. Theyre the people asked to shelter in place as they heard the shooting, ducking under desks, only taken out of that building by s. W. A. T. Team members about an hour after the shooting started, after they have cleared room to room. No clear indication yet of where everybody was. A lot of the people we have been talking to, george, seem to be a little bit shellshocked from the experience. You can only imagine how harrowing it must have been to hear all of the gunshots and to be escorted out even if someone didnt witness any of the shooting itself. So terrifying and so many reports from relatives of the witnesses. Theyre getting Text Messages and phone calls from their loved ones inside. Okay, matt, go get more information right now. Time go to steve gomez also on the phone, now a abc news consultant. When we spoke to the board of trustees keith nelson he said he knew of though threats against that center. But that is something that officials are going to be combing through now, looking back through the wreckage to see if they missed any kind of a threat to that specific thats going on right now. So youve got all the local, federal, state agencies, they are scrubbing through their databases, the joint Terrorism Task force is looking through any threat, tip, complaint that has come in related to that facility, San Bernardino and the Sheriffs Department, theyre doing the same thing. Theyre trying to see if there is anything, whether its the facility or nearby the facility that has come in recently or within the last year or two. Theyre trying to Start Building that pattern to determine if there was any type of threat or this facility was on the radar of bad guys. And is this now the result of any reconnaissance or any tips that they were receiving. And then theyll be able to help their investigation by pursuing that information that came in there. And brad garrett, that information so key because if indeed these shooters, if indeed there are three shooters on the loose in a black suv, it might give some clues as to where they might be headed next. But, george, if these guys if end up being some sort of Extremist Group like paris, theyre not going to probably have any track record at that particular location. Now, does it tie in to other potential facilities . Maybe. My guess is no, that that was picked probably as a soft target. And if theyre going to go do another one, it will be another soft target. So, you know, well have to see. But steve right. You have to play that part of the leads play out to see if any factors any history between these potential shooters and that center. How wide an area would they be concerned about right now . Well, thats the real trick bag, because you just dont know. You if you dont know who the shooters, are you dont know their motivation, and you dont know where they went to after they left this center, it is a huge, huge issue for law because theyve got every cop in Southern California looking for black suvs at this point. Now, you know, is that a rental vehicle . Is it a stolen vehicle . Usually organized people dont use their own vehicle for the obvious reasons. The crowd in prance used rental vehicles. Dont be surprised if it fits one of those scenarios. And that scene still an active situation, brad, as well, and a concern about a possible explosive device on the scene. Exactly. And, you know, bad guys of this nature love to complicate situations. They love to put things in place that slow Law Enforcement down, that may potentially harm Law Enforcement. And, you know, it will be a focus obviously until they can figure out what they have. And do they have it in more than one location. Because as matt, as others have described, you have a situation where this Conference Center where apparently the shooting occurred. Office building next to it. So did they get in there before they left . You know, we just dont know. But its going to be quite a while in my view before we know exactly what they do have inside that building. And pierre thomas, were reminded every time an incident like this happens, how easy it is to wreak havoc and to prepare for Something Like this by simply sitting at a keyboard. You can buy the body armor. You can get the guns. You can prepare the explosives. Exactly. And as we saw in Virginia Tech a few years ago, one man with a handgun killed dozen more than a dozen people. And that tells you the nature of this threat, which is so difficult to deal with. Other thing that strikes me is right now Law Enforcement is trying to get information because they are going to want to communicate with the public. The public will play a role in this if this is ongoing. They will want the public to be their eyes and ears to pass on any tips, anything they saw out of the ordinary. So thats another reason why getting some information that can be put out will be key. Keen. Kabc on the scene with an update. An active shooter situation still ongoing. This is Sergeant Vicky er is cervantes. From the last word we had, still an active shooter situation with multiple cashies here. And there are fatalities, up to 12. Can you bring us up to speed, sergeant cervantes . There really isnt a whole lot of updating as of yet. Were trying to remove all of the victims and witnesses from the building where we will take them to a secure location. So that they can be interviewed. We dont have numbers yet on casualties, but there are multiple casualties and there are confirmed fatalities. Can you talk to us about these buildings . Ive heard there are three buildings. Are these fairly large buildings . And on the right side of the road up here if im not mistaken . They are on the right side of the road. Its the Inland Regional Center. Possibly state offices. They manage Behavioral Health type businesses i believe. And they had some type of function, a function there today, an event. And during that event is when multiple shooters came in and just started shooting. Weve had a lot of questions about the number of people who are in the building, or who were inside that building at the time of the shooting. Do you guys have any idea as to how many people may have been there because of this event and how many people might be in those buildings on a regular basis on a wednesday . Have i not been given any of that information. Okay. About an hour, a little over an hour ago, you told me that there was some kind of information about a suspect vehicle, perhaps a black suv leaving the scene. Can you elaborate on that, please . We were told that at least one of the shooters may have left in a black suv. From the location. But thats the only information i have on that. Are there any other active scenes right now besides this not that ive been made aware of. Again, we have heard up to 12 fatalities. What have you heard . I havent been given a number. Thank you very much. Again, Sergeant Vicky cervantes with the San BernardinoPolice Department. Were here on okay, ray kelly, former new York City Police commissioner here with us. We just heard from the police that maybe one of the shooters had run away in that black suv. And one of the things that police will be tracking now is there are cameras all along public highways. Exactly. You look at cameras obviously at the immediate scene. You want to get a sense of which direction this vehicle went and then you try to go along that route, look for cameras along the route. How widespread are the cameras . It depends. Very different models. A lot of them are privately owned. Its difficult. Its not that easy to check the cameras. But i think thats something that is going on now. I would assume it is, trying to get a specific route is where this vehicle went. Brian ross has joined us, our chief investigative and one of the things that officials had been less concerned about was an active, organized isis cell coming into the United States from overseas. Thats right. They felt they had a sense of security that an outside group would have a hard time getting in. They have 72hour advance notice of everyone coming in on a flight to the u. S. As well as mexico and canada. They screen all those names. They scrub them. Recently theyve turned down several people weve learned who were trying to come in from france because they were on a active terror watch list. But they do keep a close eye on that. That gives them a sense of security that an outside cell would have a hard time getting here. Thats not the same thing as pierre and ray have often talked about the inside cell. We know there are several groups that are loosely coalesced that are communicating on social media that the fbi has been closely watching in this country. We know, pierre, there have been many arrests over the past year of people who might have been motived to do something here on our soil. Exactly. In the last two years, the fbi has arrested more than 70 sympathizing or supporting isis in some way. And the big concern in the recent months are im who have been consuming isis social media material. Identifying with them. And the concern has been that one of those people might actually go out and try to conduct an attack. Of those arrests, the 70 i mentioned, there were a number of what i thought were active plots that the fbi believed they have foiled. We dont want to jump to any conclusions. As you reported in times, the concern of the secret service the attacks on buildings coming from isis but those who have domestic concerns. Exactly. Until they know specifically who the suspects are, no one is going to categorize this as anything. Because they dont want to jump the gun. However, as you mentioned, government facilities have been frequently the target of attacks. People who have specific gripes, they want revenge, or a lot of times mentally unstable people as well. Former fbi special agent now in our washington bureau. Well. Its been a little over two hours since the first reports came in on 911. A wide net has been cast across Southern California. But 150 police, fbi, atf on the scene. Secure. Not yet secure. Going to be some time before it is secure. Moving parts when you have a shooting like this. Because were trying to patchwork were behind, basically. Law enforcement is behind. So what they get from the scene, from victims, from cctv, from Traffic Cameras throughout Southern California, can they track these guys . Have they been able to move along . Have they been able to identify any of them or the vehicle. Because playing catchup is the worst place to be in Law Enforcement. And until you can start getting realtime where are they, what they have . Do they have explosives in the vehicle or in a house at some location. All of that okay, brad, excuse me. Well want to go back to kabc who is talking to someone tied to three people on the scene. And your friend works with people with developmental disabilities. Yes, she does. She does. And i know another lady that was caseworker to someone in my home. I work for the mental program. And the Regional Center sends cases to the mental program. And then they find homes for mentally disabled people that are disabilities, people with disabilities. And yes, i know another lady there, named arceli. And brenda and teresa. So i know about three people there ive met. And you just rushed right down here as soon as you heard. Yes, as soon as i heard. It was about 20 minutes. And i was at work. And i was just leaving my shift. And the breaking news came on. The clients that had the tv on and breaking news came on. And i just rushed right down to it was just like i said i could not believe that this is happening in our city, in our state, you know. Just so much is going on. What is going through your mind . Youre obviously watching the people as theyre walking down the street. Yes, im trying to see if i can recognize, you know, any one of the people i know. But so far i have not. So im still looking to find out if i see someone. Yeah, well hopefully you get in touch with them very soon, meredith. Thank you so much for speaking with us. Youre welcome. Again, a lot of people like meredith just out here waiting to talk with loved ones. Some of them thanks to technology have been able to text back and forth and maybe make some phone calls. We talked with one gentleman who was waiting for his wife and she was actually able to call him. She worked here for about ten years. She said the shooter was on a second floor according to his wife. They were just reunited about a half an hour ago, or at least he was able to wave to her. I dont think he was actually able to go over and talk to her. But again, dozens and dozens of people leaving the facility, and thats the latest from here right now. Reporting live, eileen ferrer, abc eyewitness news. Were back on the scene covering this active shooter situation, San Bernardino, california. Up to 12 people may have been killed in the situation. One to three suspects reported by the police. Some, at least one may have gotten away in a black suv. Were joined now by matt olsen, the former head of the National Counterterrorism center. Matt, take us inside what would be happening in the National Counterterrorism center right now when they get report of a mass shooting like this in San Bernardino. Right, george. So absolutely inside the National Counterterrorism center as well as the rest of the Intelligence Community, the analysts are scrubbing the databases for any indication, first, of any threat, warning involving this location. So anything that would give any insight as to who is involved and their motivation. Theyre also feeding that information or any related information to the fbi, which then is of course on the scene and in touch with the local police. So theyre trying to maintain that connection between the level there in San Bernardino. And matt, educate me here a little bit. With the Counterterrorism Center have been tuned in to both those who have been motivated from groups overseas like isis and those who might be representative or inspired by Extremist Groups here in the United States . So generally, the Intelligence Community focused on threats emanating from overseas. But in an incident like this where there is so much we dont know right now, theyre going to monitor it and essentially make sure that it isnt coming from overseas. So treat it almost default as if it is until its determined certainly that its a purely domestic event, if thats what it turns out to be. And then it would be a purely fbi domestic Law Enforcement concern. And matt, if this were something that was inspired or directed by a group overseas, would bit the kind of thing where you would expect to see some traffic after the fact taking place right away or not necessarily . An inspired event, if in fact thats what this turns out to be, we wouldnt necessarily see any group, isis or any other group take credit for it. So its a lot. Obviously we dont know right now. But that wouldnt be something you would necessarily expect. And pierre thomas, the acts of terror we have seen here in the United States since 9 11 with the exception i believe of the underwear bomber, most of those maybe had some communication with isis or going on isis websites. But not necessarily part of a core native plan directed from overseas. Exactly. If you lo