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TBN Nancy Grace October 23, 2012

Lure children into his car with candy nearby, but that incident never publicized. Then a terrible find. The awful discovery. 10yearold jessicas dismembered body found just seven miles from her own home. Reports a man, a local photographer arrested in the kidnap and assault of another young girl nearby. Is that linked to jessicas murder . Investigators warning neighbors tonight, a Child Predator at large still in the community. Bombshell tonight. Reports dna on jessicas book bag could be linked to a male wanted in a sex assault of a female jogger across from jessies school. And tonight, has blonde hair believed to be jessicas and receipts for garbage bags been found near the girls remains . In a stunning turn, a handmade wooden cross found planted near jessies body. Left behind by jessicas killer . Police hope to crack the case of a murdered girl in colorado. Jessica ridgeway. A small wooden cross that belongs to her killer. We believe it was left behind or dropped by somebody that was involved. The cross has three distinct marks on one side, and on the other what appears to be the letter s. It potential was left intentionally. Pl police are reexamining an attempted abduction. The crimes seem eerily similar. A 22yearold woman running this it trail attacked, gets away. Four months later Jessica Ridgeway didnt. Fairly close to where jessica was abducted and later where her body was found. This is a tense time for the community. Its very scary. We recognize theres a predator at large in our community. That sicko is out here still. We need to find him. Good evening. Im nancy grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Bombshell tonight live to westminster, colorado. 8 30 a. M. , a little girl walks just three blocks en route to school, never seen again. Now, 10yearold jessies dismembered boend found a couple miles from home. Bombshell reports dna on jessies book bag could be linked to a man wanted in a sex assault of a jogger right across from jessies school. In a stunning turn tonight, we learn a handmade wooden cross. Is it planted near jessies dismembered body . Were learning all sorts of information tonight as we go to where, for instance, we learn that there are reports that jessies clothes were neatly folded up and put in her book bag. Lets see that video, liz. Her book bag and her water bottle with her name on it found discarded like it was thrown out of the car in a nearby neighborhood. There you see those shots. Were jessies clothing neatly folded up and placed inside her book bag . Is this linked to a man that tried to attack a nearby jogger . All of this is happening, and this is very important to the investigation. All of this is happening within a couple of miles radius, which adds to the theory that this is a local predator. That jogger, the female jogger, catch this. She was jogging along a trail where a guy came up behind her with a chemicalsoaked rag and put it over her mouth and nose. She got away. We have a description. All right. Another jogger attacked. Another attempted attack on a little boy nearby. And now jessies remains found in an open field . All of this within the same radius of a couple of miles. Jessies home, her school, the jogging route, the location where her backpack and water bottle were discarded, and now another Monkey Wrench thrown in, but its a piece of the puzzle. A receipt, a receipt. I cant tell you how important this is. Straight out to nia bender, operations manager, tnn, denver. Theres to much happening. Its fast and furious tonight, nia. Tell me about the receipt. Apparently the receipt is from a king supers, which is located not that far from jessicas home 100th and wa wadsworth. They found the receipts and looked it up. Theyre going through surve surveillance tape. They have about four hours to go through. They can save that in one shot. On the receipt, though, it does show a purchase for trash bags. Okay. What do we know about that location, nia . Were showing it right now. Where does it figure into the radius were talking about . Its that general neighborhood, within a 5 to 6 square mile area. Its very suburban and very, very quiet familyoriented area. All right. I want to go out to matt zarell. What can you tell me about these other attacks. Theres two joggers i believe and one little boy, attempted attacks. Yes, nancy. We have the two joggers and the one boy. May 28th is the jogger. 22yearold jogging on a trail around the lake next no jessicas school. At 1 15 p. M. She encounters a male suspect. He grabbed her from behind and tries to put a rag over her mouth. The victim said the rag had a chemical smell on it. She got aaway and called 911. This is not the first time we encountered this person, because in july of 2010 another jogger was chased by a man fitting the description. Three weeks before the jogger afak in may, an 8yearold boy, there was an attempted kidnapping on an 8yearold boy and that suspect fit a similar description. All these armchair quarterbacks saying, okay, an attacker that would attack a fullgrown woman, a sex predator would not be interested in children. Or a guy that would attack a little boy would not be interested in little girls. Okay. If this is the same guy, matt zarrell, hes disproving all those amateur theories. So what do i have, matt, if anything, linking this one guy to all of these victims . Nancy, the key here regarding jessica is dna, because kdvr is reporting that dna from the support in jessicas murder has been linked to the alleged the attack on the jogger on may 28th. Theyve linked it through dna, and they do believe that the jogger, the two jogger attacks was the same suspect and theyre working to confirm it was the 8yearold boy was also the same suspect as well. Okay. Hold on, matt. I have to get this straight, because we have so many victims were talking about. This may just be the key to unlock the mystery to jessicas murder. Im not understanding how they got dna in an attempted sex attack on the jogger, matt, because its my understanding he came up behind her as she was jogging along. What do you know . As the victim passed the suspect, he grabbed her from behind and tried to put a rag over her mouth. She had the rag had a chemical smell on it. She was able to get away, nancy, so i wonder if there was dna under her fingernails. Maybe thats why they got it. Good thinking, matt. How did the incident with the little boy go down . An 8yearold boy is out with his sister and friend. Theyre playing games outside and walking on a trail near ketner lake, the same location as the jogger by the elementary school. The suspect grabbed the boy by the neck and tried to pull him over the guardrail onto the street. The sister and sisters frent panic and throw the cell phone at him and screamed and yells. Cops did not track him down. Do we have dna in that case . They tried to get dna from the toy gun the boy was holding but they were not able to get the dna from it. Whats connecting that to the jogger, a physical description . Yes, nancy. The mother of the 8yearold boy says the description of the suspect who attacked the 8yearold boy is similar to the suspect description in the jogger case. Police have not confirmed an exact connection yet, but theyre working to do that as we speak. Whats my physical description . A lightskinned male, 18 to 35 or someone wait, wait, wait. When you say lightskinned male, ma matt, matt, matt. Is it a white guy . Yes. Okay. Its a white guy. Go ahead. Whats the rest. What do i know . 18 to 35. Brown hair, medium build, 56 to 58, sunglasses with small frames. At the time of the jogger attack he was wearing a black tshirt, jeans and a navy blue ball cap. What kind of frames on the f shirts on the sunglasses . Sunglasses with small frames. And he wore the sunglasses on the attack on the little boy and jogger . Ive not seen an exact description of the suspects sunglasses but he was between 56 and 6 foot tall. Out to victoria taft with kpmn. I dont need dna to tell me its the same guy. You have a white male that is stalking this lake, ketner lake. How many other white males have a slim athletic build are going to attack people on the same jogging trail in basically a low populated area compared to, for instance, philadelphia, manhattan, atlanta, san francisco. So long story short, of course, its the same guy. I have the same guy linked up to jessies murder because his dna is on the backpack. Im trying to fit out how his dna got on the backpack. His dna is on her backpack, and i understand theres dna at the crime scene where her body is found hacked to pieces. I have dna linking him to the jogger, and a physical description linking him to a little girl. What about it, victoria taft . You know, nancy, one of the things that is arising here where i am in a case is the small stuff matters. And in this case in colorado you had attack after attack after attack. Maybe they didnt seem quite as serious, but everything counts. Now the police have to go back over all of the crimes which were committed in this area, nancy, that you rightly point out has been the scene of so many different sort of odd coincidences. Attempted abductions, attempted attacks. Theyre going through clear back to 2011. Nancy, youre right. Its probably the same guy. We have a predator, and hes loose. One set of parents were moved out of the neighborhood because they were afraid for their children. Pete marrone, director of Virginia Department of forensic science. Thank you for being with us. I want to talk very quickly before we go to break about that handmade cross that was found planted near jessicas remains. Is it possible to get dna off of it . What do you think, pete . What do you think forensically about the crime scene . You ask an interesting question. Is it possible . Anything is really possible. On the other hand, its equally possible they may not be able to find anything. When youre dealing with touch dna and then the cross or even the backpack that you spoke of, its not necessarily a sure thing. People have to understand that. Quite often you may get some results, but the results wont necessarily be meaningful. One of the things we have to be careful of in following it as many folks have. Hi dad. Many years from now, when the subaru is theirs. Hey. You missed a spot. Ill look back on this day and laugh. Love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. A little girl snatched while simple walking to school. Theres a predator at large in our community. Lines of Law Enforcement officers search where the body was found. Tonight the breaking news in the search for 10yearold jessica is coming fast and furious. Back to you, matt zarrell. What more have we found out about the crime scene itself, in particular i want to talk about those trash bags . Nancy, now kdvr is reporting that portions of jessicas remains were found on the black garbage bags. We talked last week whether it was inside the bag, and now reports surface from the denver post that remains were found inside that black garbage bag. Unleash the lawyers. Burk strunski out of l. A. , eric defense attorney in miami, jason oceans, defense attorney new york. Jason, lets kick it off with you. I was listening to what matt zarrell just said about this 10yearold little girls remains, her body hacked to pieces. I know for a fact reports are her clothing was neatly folded up in her backpack. So this is painting a horrible scenario as to the hours surrounding her death. And now were just trying to decide, were her hackedup body parts inside or outside of garbage bag . Right. Does colorado have the Death Penalty, anybody . Clark, do they have the Death Penalty . Weigh, in, jason. I hear where youre going in terms of this is the typical case out in the public eye. I didnt say typical. That would require us to think about the Death Penalty. Before we get to that point, i think Law Enforcement needs to make certain about who theyre targeting, making sure these arent isolated incidents in and above themselves. Its death by needle, jason. That would be appropriate for the perpetrator who is convicted of these crimes, nancy. I dont think anyone would disagree. Not only that, eric swartswick, does the mom have to wrestle with her daughters death . She has to wrestle with her childs murder and dismemberment and likely sex attack prior to her murder. Thoughts . Nancy, its awful. Its atrocious and heinous, but to echo what jason says, we need to make sure we get the right person. Everyone deserves justice. Her family deserves the justice and the suspect deserves to justice. We need to make sure what do you think that justice would be . You think theres a problem with dna . You dont accept nancy. There might be a coverup in the o. J. Simpson case . We would both be wrong on this. Its not a coverup or about dna. Its about makes sure is are dotted and ts are crossed and they get the right person. Im making sure you get the right suspect. Talk some sense. The crime is going to be solved by dna evidence. Theres no question forensic evidence will lead us to who this is and ultimately to a conviction. Its hard to imagine burk put it out there. May he rot in hell, all right . No doubt. Anybody that chops up kidnaps and chops up an 8yearold child deserves the Death Penalty. Thats the kind of person that the Death Penalty was its too good for him. 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Who knows where hes at. What happened to 10yearold jessica . In just a few days my children, believe it or not, are going to turn 5 years old. To all of you that prayed when they were in intensive care when they were born, please dont stop. Can you imagine what this mother is going through . She watches her little 10yearold girl walk away from the house. Three blocks she had to walk to meet up with her friends to walk to school in the morning. Shes dead. Shes not just dead. Shes clearly been sexually molested, held captive, murdered, and hacked up. As we analyze all the clues tonight forensically, what is she doing . Can you imagine . Shes probably sitting at home on her sofa in the dark going, wheres my girl . I want to go back to hold on, panel. Hold on, everybody. I want to go back to chris in colorado who just called in. Chris is very familiar with this area. Shes hearing about all these attacks. There was no publication of any of these attacks much tonight through dna logistics and physical description, this one guy, a white male as we predicted last week is responsible for attempted attacks on we believe, two joggers and a little boy literally pulling the little boy over the fence away from his playmates to molest him. Okay . Nobody knew. Nobody knew. There wasnt a flyer put up, a warning, nothing. And so jessicas mom lets her walk to school that day. Right by ketner lake. Chris in colorado, i want to hear your thoughts on this. Caller its terrible, because if we would have known, so many people would have gotten somebody to walk their kids to school. You know . Kids are our life, you know . Its terrible. Chris in

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