Classroom management and its okay and lets get focused and ready to go on the lesson, but when youre talking about hurting somebodys feelings that is often times in my experience been an issue of power. Yeah, i would like to add to that. I think there has been dialogue in the nation throughout the issue in the last year, and when you look at recent report that the federal department of education presented basically has the definition of bullying in every single state and also a list of i think 37 components and ranks that show you state by state which ones include those components of it. As we heard earlier the federal department is close to approving a federal definition of bullying, so i do believe there is a lot of work in this area. I also think there is a lot of work going on in terms of evidence based practices in terms of interventions that is very exciting. Some of the information that we know is that about 80 of the bullying that goes on can pretty much be handled by some very prescribed ways of dealing with things. 20 requires really very targeted social emotional behavioral approach and i think that as we get better at that knowing what methods work with which kids were going to come a long ways in terms of the interventions and then being successful with those. Thank you. A lot of folks talked about the culture of a school and improving the culture of a school. When i was doing Background Research on bullying one thing that came to mind was sort of the differences in different cultures which could be in two different schools in the same city about who the victims of bullying might be and the hot shots in each of the schools, so for example research showed that the social attitudes within a particular setting and the community and the parents can manifest themselves in terms of who folks are picking out to target; right . So for example at maybe a high end school like lowell ore gunn you might have bullying because youre not taking enough ap class. I have heard this and there is so mush pressure and criticized by the peers if theyre not smart enough. In other schools its the opposite and bullied because they are smart when that is not the krult. Maybe in texas where its a different culture that we saw in the movie that perhaps football is everything and if a child isnt good at sports theyre an outcast. I would like to ask how or if addressing the cultural needs at each school how can we is this all one way of doing this, or do you feel there are different needs in different communities . And i think perhaps the Law Enforcement folks feel the cultures in the communities and see that come out in the adults. I would like to hear about how do you affect a culture and even in San Francisco we have many cultures affecting what is valued, what is criticized. You know i think that richard touched upon this. Its a relationship of power and its clearly going to differ from community to community; right. When i was telling you i was picked because because i didnt speak english or at all initially there were only about 5 of us that were hispanic in the school and wouldnt be the case if 95 are hispanic and English Speaking as a second language, but i think the way that we can deal with the issue is we ought to first of all start with the notion of respect for others, and respect for others can work across the line. It doesnt necessarily mean it doesntly has to deal with the culture. Is how we treat one another . And i think we have to be very clear in our educational process and the communication to our people and what is acceptable behavior and what is unacceptable behavior, and i am often fearful when we try to develop a black letter law if you have all these factors and bullying and you fell outside and that works okay in the courtroom. Right . As prosecutors we need clear understanding of the laws to understand whether we have a criminal violation or not, but i am fearful we maybe overly legalistic and the way we deal with on a daily basis and we need to approach this by a global perspective respecting people and understanding we have the same rights and obligations and starting with the adults and i go back to the adults because the adults really have to tow the line here. They really have to walk the talk. I cannot tell you how often i of involved in large mentoring efforts and now in two different places, in l. A. And arizona. I cannot tell you how often the teachers are the ones that set the tone whether we have a respectable environment or and not part of that is education and we have to educate the adults that spend time with the kids and the federal government will come up with the giens and 37 factors or 40 and frankly most of us wont remember and unless were prosecuting and looking for the elements of the crime and whether were going to file a case or not. I i think we need to be more global than this and this works and we need to illustrate the things that arent acceptable . What is the impact on the victim . What is the impact on everyone else . And working together to solve the problem. Nancy. In some School Districts and teachers when i brought up this issue i get back youre not going to change kids being kids. Some kids will pick on other kids and in the dynamic girls will be friends today and the queen bee will turn away from some girl and the enemy today and tomorrow its somebody else, and again i agree with george and so much of this is the responsibilities falls on those adults who actually have a birds eye ore worms eye view of what is going on in the schools and the kids lives and when kids dont show up for school and do more inquiry we find there is an issue around Sexual Harassment in the school and another form of bullying and girls assaulted or harassed in an aggressive way, or and it just goes higher and higher. Our teachers need to be not only recognize what theyre seeing but willing to look at what theyre seeing and one of the unfortunate things we have seen with some teachers and i am not criticizing the teachers in general because i think this is a learning process for adults also to move from kids will be kids and we had someone who was mean to us in school to actual bullying, but we have talked to the School Districts around the state and sometimes the teachers have the blinds eye and its more work to get involved and more work and what do relationships look like, and i agree with tony this is the beginning of relationship building, or its a relationship going bad that could get worse. And so i think that we have a lot of educating to do. In my office we do a lot of Cyber Bullying training in our schools and its amazing how much access some kids have to the internet at a really young age. They have iphones. Theyre on the internet. They have or smartphones. They have computers in the bedroom and parent it is never over the shoulder to see what is going online. There is a lot of unrestricted access to the internet and the internet has put it on another level and one push of a button and everybody in the school will have a picture or hear it and the outcome of that is it would be not just reconciling relationships or Restorative Justice or some other way between two or three or four people but now you have a whole study body that has been tempered or tainted with something that goes against the individual who was a target of that, so the internet working more strongly with the partners and the providers of the internet and there is awareness and education, but back to the student assemblies that we do it is amazing at the end of the assemblies how many kids will step forward quietly or privately it happened to me. It happened on the internet. This person put something out about me and didnt feel they had a place to go so there could be intervention so i think the partnership between Law Enforcement and between the schools and the School Resource officers is critically important. We have prosecuted parents by the way who have encouraged their children to bully in a dramatic way. We prosecuted a mother who forced the 14 year old daughter to bully a 12 year old and resulted in the 14 year old physically attacking the girl with the mother screaming at her if she didnt continue to beat the kid she was going to get beaten and the kids watching were filming it on their smartphones and that girl the daughter was also a victim of bullying by her own mother and i think this is a place where Law Enforcement can step in and hold parents accountable and doing things aggressive or against the law and encourage the kids to do something against the law and getting the parents intention and bring them in on some level. Quickly i want to Say Something about this. I appreciate what you have said about the adults and the adults having responsibility but im going to speak practical callity. I have been a teacher and principal in different states. I want you to think about to the time after columbine and think what happened after that incident happened. There was a wave to put metal detectors in schools and all of this security. I will tell you folks in two different schools and having confiscated many weapons it wasnt a metal detector that brought it to my attention. It was a student. They were the most effective because theyre ubiquitous. They are everywhere. They know who has what in the backpack and if you extrapolate that to bullying we cant be at home when they are logging in. Students will know who posted what and if we can build the resiliency in the student body and move from the paradigm where its okay to post those things and youre a big guy because you have a picture of a naked teeneen on your phone and to a culture its not scpook youre hurting somebody and somebody will bring that to the attention of an adult that can intercede. I think that is what were trying to develop and system and students understand its not okay to hurt each other and whether its words or pictures. That can only happen with what george and nancy were talking about and empowering teachers and administrators and parents to be part of that conversation as well. Thanks richard. I want to add really fast. Thank god there are people that want to teach in our schools and i think its a tremendously difficult and challenging job and as res lynn was talking about when you have the five minutes passing in the hall and you see bullying so you have a few choices. I would like to go to the bathroom. I can do this. I can do that, or am i going to get involved in this situation . And to give some strength to encourage teachers to do this, there was a law passed recently. Assembly bill nine and amends the Education Code and requires School Personnel, whether its teachers or administrators if they see something that looks bullying they are required to intervene when its safe and appropriate to do so, i think its the kind of law that is trying to give teachers yeah, you are the authority figure. You are supposed to do this and we will support your efforts. Assembly bill nine and amends the Education Code and its just something that might be useful for the School Personnel here. Okay. We have time for just a couple of questions but before that im going to ask you a panel and you only get three words to answer. Im going to cut you off. You can use one word. Money is a problem in terms of programs. If you had all the money in the world what would you do to combat bullying . Kids, empower, empower kids. Okay. Can specific. Education and prevention. Restorative justice and healing. Thats too many words. Nancy. Healing and intervengdz. Developing deep relationships. Strengthening families. Excellent. [applause] thank you to the panelists. We have time for about two questions. Hi to the panel and thank you very much. Really interesting. I am jack winestein and admitted have a vested interest where you might take this question. I think that what you have done collectively today and especially in this last panel is make a case for more professional development for educators as well as for opportunities for students to develop their moral philosophical voices, so the question i have for you given the current climate, economically and politically, can we afford to separate out this conversation from the larger political and economic conversation that confronts the whole state . And whats the role of this body, Educators Community leaders in making sure we fund the kind of interventions and developments that lead to division you have described so beautifully. Can i get one person to answer that . Real quick. I think the idea that we can help young people and dawlts learn and growth mind set and have to advocate for more time to learn. The reduction in Adult Learning in schools is damaging all of us as a whole entire state, so i think youre absolutely right, but to then also understand that helping young people have a social filter, executive function and make lifes choices. We know about Brain Development but we can help young people to make good decisions and we stripped that out and doesnt incorporate that and social Emotional Learning and other folks to say we should in fact care deeply about young people developing the capacity to make good decisions and to struggle productively with one another. That should be our teaching as well so more time for adults to grow and Learn Together and professional capital to build and help the kids grow and not just the content but in human beings. Yeah and to add to that i think its involving the community, so the ptas, the nonprofits, the Faith Based Community and bringing them together and share resources and get really focused and looking at the data and then the outcomes because that keeps you focused. Great. Okay go ahead. This is a mixed appreciation and a question. Im Nicholas Carlyle and the director of bully , San Franciscos nonprofit and we share with you the realization that punishment makes bullying situations worse. Its uncoupled bullying and punishment and the question is, which is kind of a comment too. If we uncouple bullying and punishment doesnt that make it much easier to define what bullying is . And seems to me and defining bullying because the bar is so high because were afraid its going to trigger some prescribed consequence and bullying doesnt necessarily have to lead to a consequence and just a solution wouldnt that make the definition of bullying much easier . I dont think that that at least from my perspective and what i heard so far that the focus of addressing bullying leads to punishment. At least what i have been talking about and my colleagues here is were focused on addressing it as changing behaviors, and learned positive behaviors as opposed to trying to assess or attach a punishment to it. It might result in some punishment if its extreme but i think that the focus at least from us is that we want to do the intervention, the healing, the retorstiff justice and i dont think punishment should be a substiewlt word for the behavior and i think that is where the confusion lies for some and if we held someone accountable for a behavior is attached to a punishment and not necessarily so. Great. I would like to recognize the District Attorney of nasessa and gary leeberson. Is he here . Hi gary and the other District Attorney. If we can get a microphone and since we have the experts here. What are you most proud of in san that mateo and i know there is a program there and what youre most proud of in your community that addresses these issues . Hi everybody. Sorry to surprise you. No worries. Were meant to think on our feet. The collaboration that we have in our community. We have been sitting around the table as Community Leaders throughout our criminal Justice System for a number of years, long before realignment happened with the schools and Law Enforcement, with probation, our office, with Public Centers office and looking a sulsystems approach and not just punitive base but there are going to be consequences as nancy said for very extreme acts but everything ultimately is local. I mean with limited exceptions of people that need lifelong time outs or much longer than everybody else, but by in large everything is local and i think that we really put a lot of focus on our young people. My colleagues and the superintendent was here barbara and had to leave about an hour ago and we try to Work Together. We have been trying to be innovative in truancy areas. I think i stole this from alameda and San Francisco but i sent a letter out to address all School Parents on my letterhead to talk about the importance of kids being in school and sort of the having the feather in the club approach but basically talking statistically todays victims being tomorrows victims and perpetrators and how important it is for your kids to be in school, so its the full Community Approach and the holistic approach as it were. Okay great. Did you want to add something . On the spot but i was proud of the three das and they covered it and we worked over the years with the heart power that jeff rosen referred to. When moving into the soft power i recognize were not experts so i look to people like anne campbell, our superintendent and to cheryl there to educate us and i said this morning i am interested what we can do as a District Attorneys office to help , what we can do to help because we recognize were not experts. We have an expertise in certain areas dealing with consequences and accountability and were good with that. When it comes to soft power with great collaboration we can have a support role and provide to our educators and experts what exactly can we do to assist you getting to the end that everybody talked about today and thats the only different take we would have. Great thank you. [applause