Usually been 72 to 108 hours, so relatively shortterm, but also somewhat higher heat exposure than what we probably get most of the time in san francisco, so conditions are really variable and then its usually controlled rather than kind of normal. Yeah . So, in general where possible, staying away from plastic Water Bottles is not only making your life a little bit healthier, its decreasing our dependence on plastic which is more important as a broader environmental issue, but even Water Bottles, even if you leave them in a cold environment, you dont know where theyve come from or theyve been in ship holds which is really hot, just as a number one rule, if you smell something plastic dont drink out of it. Thats good advice. I have two questions, theyre a little bit unrelated but the first one goes on the scheme of plastic, so plastic wrap, plastic bags, you know, its great to say we should all use glass but we know whats used out there is plastic, and its reusable, you can come up with all these ways to avoid it but theres plastic everywhere and its accessible and cheap, so plastic wrap gets used a lot, there arent that many alternatives that can do what plastic wrap does, i dont use a lot of it and its harder to store things longterm and same question applies for the freezer, its easier to put things in a freezer bag. So, a little tip for that is i do admit to using plastic bags, i reuse them and if something is not i dont use them for liquids and if something isnt somehow already kind of like a solid or whatever, parchment paper around that and then use the plastic just as the thing that keeps it from leakproof or if im taking soup to work, i have my soup in a glass jar but i will throw it in plastic because i dont want it all over my backpack and theres also more stainless steel options which are a little more expensive but thats a onetime investment, just dont lose it, so a box of plastic bags, it lasts me like three year, parchment paper, its the layer that touches your food and then aluminum foil isnt really bad, but parchment paper is a good thing. Plastics in kids toys and kids products, theyre not really labeled, i dont find the same symbol on them and i do a lot of the reuse and recycle, but mostly reusing things so we have handmedowns and all kinds of toys that have been through many generations and i sometimes think about it, i can only worry so much about what my son puts in his mouth, but when you talk about chemicals, where do you start, besides i know wooden toys are best and that was the plan originally, only wood in our house and glass and ceramics, thats all lovely in theory, its not what happens unless youre a waldorf parent and youre strict and its really your principle, so good will has a lot of plastic, so you know, anymore words on that, i realize its a matter of what you can do, but i have not encountered some of those challenges because im not a parent but i have been around a lot of kids, Important Note is that in 2008, a law was passed that mra s sites could not longer be used in kids toys , for right now, if youre buying new toys off the shelf, theyre not going to have that particular compound, plus skish shi ones, theyre not going to have that, i know you have a small child, is when theyre at that mouthing stage of putting everything in their mouth, that maybe be the time to be most concerned about the specifics when they get to the older stage where, you know, theres some pretty nifty plastic toys out there, lets get real, and i like that i had legos as a kid and those were plastic, you know, maybe thats when you loosen it up a little bit and make, you know, judicious decisions, but when theyre putting everything in their mouths, you want to be the most careful about what that is, parents may have other added tips. [inaudible] because most of the toys for kids, we dont really check sometimes where theyre made. Its for toys sold in the united states, so regardless of where the manufacturer is, if theyre sold in the u. S. , they have to comply with those standards, other countries could well have different laws on their shelves and my guess would be vary from laws that would be more health protective to less fighters to join us. I have two questions, ill keep them brief. We cant control where our fire houses are and our fire house is a block off the freeway, we do replace our h fact filters every five mother and is theyre jet black when we replace them every three months, it is a big concern, how do we reduce our exposure when were a block right off the freeway, were bumper to bump traffic, and there are some fire houses that are literally underneath the freeway so how do we reduce that exposure, air filters, if so, what kind of air filters . Youre getting beyond our Technical Knowledge of our filtration, but you know, it might be somebody to consult with somebody with expertise in air filtration for indoor air of course, maybe replacing those filters more often, you know, some very basic things and again, im not an engineer, but wiping down surfaces with moistures rather than a rag captures that better, otherwise youre containing it better, thinking about some of the basic things you do in the home, i would consult someone who has experience in air filters. [inaudible]. [inaudible] and my husband tells me they mop the apparatus floors every day because its a diesel dust, im not sure if its a common practice in fire houses, i was told someone in the Fire Department had developed cancer and they thought it was partly due to the diesel dust so they mop down every day, i know they probably sweep it but i dont know if mopping down is what 9 does, i dont know if this is Company Policy because i havent been there. It is . Okay. I have a question. My question is unrelated, talking about going back to the radiation and how bad it is for your body, so why do they recommend it as a treatment if someone has had cancer of various sorts . Kind of because it can be toxic to cells and so, if you target it, right, and then youre directing it to those very cancer cells that are growing very rapidly and are in a very focal area, then you are, you know, and its at a higher dose than youre exposed to when youre screening, youre killing those cells and youre stopping their growth, so theyre leveraging that particular feature of the radiation just as they do with chemotherapy which is drugs that we wont have to take unless were needing to kill those cancer cells. [inaudible] radiation . It is very focused even though the [inaudible] i was talking about, if its focused, why does everybody leave the room . Theyre spending their 8 hour work day, and even if its focused and theres a little bit of spread, radiation, as i understand, im not a physicist either, does reduce in its power the further away you get from it, right, that theres still, you know, if youre spending 8, 9 hours a day, you dont want that little bit added, theyre Getting Better and better at in medical radiation when theyre using it as a treatment, directing that ray to a more specific and localized area, but, you know, we do see in kids who are treated with radiation early for earlier childhood cancers that they can develop later life cancers as a result, now whats your tradeoff there, the 20, 30 years of life they may have and maybe its a treatable cancer they might get later, but if youre an adult and getting na, youre weighing the costs and benefits. I just wanted to say one thing about the a couple of things about the diesel fuel, christine brings a great thing about where your fire house is located but what are our practices in the fire house, and are your extractors plugged in when the rigs are on or theyre plugged in and blowing into the apparatus floor and with some of our Standing Orders with the ambulances, i know for sure theyre supposed to stay on all the time at a scene, youre at a house in an hour and your rig is supposed to be on outside, thats addressing some of those policies within our department, its like, well, were told you have to leave the rig running to keep the power up or something, well, come on now, you know, cant that not be changed a little bit, so i think that that is, you know, its the diesel fuel we know is something cancercausing, the other thing that came up with me is not a question but a comment with fire houses that i know and just starting to look and theres been some talk in our department, why do we have cell towers on our fire houses and there are some fire houses that have them and theyre in places where its exposing right where we sleep, why do why do we have that and is it a cost benefit thing, and just to start to ask some of those questions of our administration really, so that was it. So, i think that we are out of time, but this was wonderful, thank you for the rich questions and your attention and for bringing so many of you in here. I would like to thank bonnie and the Breast Cancer fund for coming and all of the local coop that uses local ingredients, we practice what we preach