>> good morning, today is october 8, 2015, and welcome to the rules committee of the san francisco, board of supervisors and my name is john alex howes and the chair of the committee and to my right is vice chair katie tang and to my left is cohen. >> silence all cell phones and electronic devices completed speaker cards should be submitted items today will appear on the october 20th, board of supervisor's agenda. unless otherwise stated. >> today meeting is broadcast today, by sfgtv staff, jessy larson and jim smith and thank you for your service, madam clerk, could you call the first item. >> ordinance amending the administrative code to extend the sunset date of the public utilities revenue bond oversight committee for an additional three years to january, 1, 2019. >> good morning, welcome. >> good morning. >> and nice to see you all. this is holly, and wearing my san francisco public utilities commission, oversight hat and i am here today to speak very briefly about the extension. and as you are probably aware, the revenue bond committee provides, independent oversight of the bond expenditures for the puc capitol project and includes, the repair and replacement and the expansion of the seismic up grades of the city, water power and waste water. in fact my street on the road is being dug up for the pipe replacement as we speak. it insures that the bond proceeds are spent efficiently. >> it was created by an ordinance, proposition, p in 2002 and it was set to expire, january 1 of 2013, the board of supervisors passed an ordinance in december of 2012 to extend the provisions until january 1, 2016, which is just a few months from now. >> supervisor mark farrell sponsored that extension as well as the current proposed extension which is the subject of this item today. the san francisco public utilities commission expects that bonding for the multibillion-dollar, capitol improvement program for our waste water enterprise will continue through 2020. and one of the main reasons, that the supervisor farrell and the sfpuc, supervisor farrell is sponsoring the current ordinance to extend it for another three years, is because of this major bonding project for the waste water program. just very recently, on september, 8 of 2015, the san francisco public utilities commission passed a resolution, supporting the extension until january of 2019 and i have a copy of that for your record as well as a copy of the general manager letter in support of the extension. >> i am happy to answer any questions for you, and the other members of the sfpuc here who can help with that. >> thank you. >> thank you for your presentation and just a quick question. the waste water they are not reviewing the capitol work, but more of the financing aspects of it. >> yes, most of that work is funded through bonds that the puc left and so our charge is to act as an independent, oversight body to make sure that the bond proceeds are spent according to law and efficiently as possible for the city of san francisco and so we are looking at the bond expenditure and not overseeing the planning and engineering per se. just the expenditures for those. >> and so, by 2020, we expect that all of the expenditures will be made for the current project bonds? that are paying for the complete waste water program? and we are going to be seeing, another issue, that will extend the oversight committee for it at that time. >> let con sult to make sure that answer is answer, mike? >> if you want to come to the, thank you. >> hi, i am mike brown with the pc finance. the waste water capitol program that has been adopted has plans for the bond issuances and over the next ten years, to rebuild the waste water system. >> great. so we will see the further extensions of the oversight committee at those times. >> yes. >> thank you. >> that was my main question. >> great. >> do you have any other questions? >> i do not and anyone else on the committee either. and so thank you for your presentation and your service on the committee as well. we are going to open this up for public comment, any member of the public that would like to comment, come forward. >> (inaudible) >> any other member of the public that would like to comment. >> the chair? >> i just wanted to give our clerk, the two documents that i spoke of. >> great, thank you. >> okay, colleagues. and this will be closed on the public comment. and item one is closed for public comment. and lies before us. tang? >> thank you i do agree with the extension of this and so at this moment i would like to make a motion to forward this out for the recommendation of the full board. >> i will second that motion. >> colleagues we will take that without objection. >> item two, please? >> hearing to consider the quarterly reports of the shelter monitoring committee. >> >> we are here to present the two quarters for the sheltering monitoring committee and this is the background, and the committee initiative, established the standard care for the homeless shelter and also, established the shelter monitoring committee to monitor the individual shelter's progress towards the standards and it is submitted to the department of public health and hsa, and the resource centers, the monitoring committee consists of 13. and the mayor, and of which, out of that three, one is representative from the human service agency and one is a representative from the department of public health. >> and four seats are appointed by the local homeless coordinating board and then, 6 seats are appointed by the board of supervisors. and in compliance of the standards of care for the homeless shelters are initiated in two main ways, the shelter monitoring committee conducts the site visits to monitor the standards of care, and there were eight, and there is approximately, a target of 18 sites, per quarter, as the target goal. and then, the other function, the main function is that the clients can file a complaint and which we have the individual, appointments. there are two staff that support the committees which includes, the data collection, the surveys, and the support for meetings and trainings and the coordination the surveys, and personal interviews with the clients, and the clients, in their complaints. and so i just wanted to introduce you so that you knew that these, and the two gentleman, behind, and could you please stand up. >> and justin, and howard, and actually have been very instrumental in working with the shelter and monitoring committee in coordinating all of these efforts between, the department of public health, and the sheltering monitoring committee and human service, agency and the shelter providers and of course, the clients and so i am going to turn it over, to nick, who is the chair of the shelter monitoring committee for the presentation of the quarterly reports. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> we have what? there is three or two reports? from the quarters? >> it is one report of two quarters. >> here is a copies. hi, good morning, or afternoon, my name is nick kinora and i am the chair as they said, we are presenting and just doing our duty of presenting these quarterly reports to the rules committee. as required by the legislation and so these are the third and fourth quarters january through june of 2015. it is that the data is obviously, some what older. we are working on the current reports, these reports in the past have not been so because we have lower staff, and we have not been able and we did not have many committee members and they are caught up and the staff is working on the current ones, in terms of this one, i think that the important things to point out would be, that we were lagging behind if you look at page 5, in the site visits in the third quarter. we only did 70 percent, 78 percent of what we were supposed to do, however, when we started to gain more membership in the fourth quarter, we exceeded our goal, and throughout both of the quarters we achieved, 97 percent of the required, site visit and so we missed it by un, and that was actually, they were doing construction at one of the shelters so we were caught up and missed it by one. >> and if you look at page nine, the highlight of the complaint and it is a jump from january and we had six complaints. however, in june, of 2015, we had 26 so that is a pretty expo nen shall increase, i don't know or speculate what it is for. why, or what it has to do is that we have better drop in hours and more staff availability and more site visits. the availability of our services is highlighted more in the community and so they are aware of it. that is one of the causes. and then in terms of complaints, as usual, on page, eight, it sort of goes into how staff, and you can see the start, and the committee and last two or three years and the complaints are around the staff and facility and access and, it was around the staff, and as you can see on page 8, it is sort of, reiterates it a little bit on how the majority of the complaints were inequitable treatment of staff and, that is what we are supposed to enforce in shelters. that is all that i have to say on that. we are doing the work with supervisor tang and her office on addressing what is called, what we called the imminent danger policy to besinger explain it, it is when if there is an incident of domestic violence at a shelter, a homeless family shelter, the perpetrater is denied service and asked to leave, and the victim or the survivor of the finance is denied services as well. and actually denied service from every family homeless shelter, it used to be 30 days, they changed it to 15 days and that if it happens after the 7:30 i believe at night, and they can stay that night, but will be asked for 15 days, and not be able to access the emergency, homeless family shelter system for that 15-day period. >> that effects the perpetrater, >> for violence or threats of violence and the victim is denied services because the rationale is that it is not, it is a public address so the people know where the shelter is, and the perpetrater knows that the victim is staying there he or she will be living there. and so it is not a safe house. so the rationale is that they cannot protect that client, and if someone pursues them, they are putting the health of the facility at risk and ask them to leave that facility. >> and i guess because the other family shelters are public addresses too they are denied services from there as well. >> is there any place, where either of the victim or the perpetrater does get referred to either services or compliance behavior or shelter? >> so, we are, in the process of really trying to revamp this policy and we met with the domestic violence providers and hsa and shelters and we are trying to meet with the people in the shelter which is easy because we can go to the community meetings, but the people who perhaps have been involved in domestic violence or victims trying to get their input on it and to answer your question, the perpetrater can access the single adult system as can the victim, however if they have children, neither one will be eligible for the adult system. and they will not be and the victim will not be able to go to the family system either. >> sort of puts and they can go to the dv shelter, but those are full every night. >> so the victim i was thinking more of a shelter and services for protection and the perpetrater, you know, ways that person will be held accountable. and receive services to help with their behavior. and currently, they are denied services and they have the right to appeal it through the external and internal appeal process. i think that if depending on the shelter in my day job i work with them through that process. and so you know, it is some shelters that you can work it out with them and maybe they will be able to work out a dv plan to go to the parenting classes or counseling, but it depends on the shelter f they were sticking to the policy they will deny that person services >> all right. >> supervisor tang. >> thank you for your up date and it really great working with you, and some of the other city staff to trying to address this policy. clearly i think that as you can hear from some of supervisor avalos questions, there is a clear gap, when the victim of domestic violence and it came up in one of the meetings that it causes many people to not want to report these, because then they will actually lose their place in that shelter. i think that is dangerous, and i was glad to hear that it was the beginning of october that this policy changed a little bit so that it went down from 30 days of denial of services to 15. i still think that that is not good. and i would like for us to figure out ways to get that even to the lower or figuring out a way that they can access service or shelter. in some of the other format, and i don't know why it was that we were able to reduce it down to 15 days. but not further. and so i do look forward to continuing working with all of you on the change in policy and seeing how we can help the potential victims. because i do think that it is wrong that if you are potentially the victim that you are also denied services. even if it is in the name of saying that you may be harming others, who are in the shelter, there are other ways that we can deal with that. >> i agree, 100 percent. and we definitely look forward to working with your office as well. >> great, thank you. >> supervisor cohen. what was your name, >> nick. >> a couple of questions for you. on the shelter monitoring committee, the hand out and the summary that you gave. on page 5, of ten, at the bottom, where it says united counciler mother brown, it says third quarter visits there is one and in the second column there are two visits and in the third, it says two, i just want to make sure that is a typo and it should be three. >> it is a typo it should be three. >> no problem, you turnover to page number 6, now, the number of complaints. the number of complaints, i take that a little bit with a grain of salt. certainly, people complain about our offices and >> sure. >> and the council. >> but, next door it seems like there is 25 of them. which compared to the other shelters that is, that number is extremely large. 23 of those, 23 of the 25 come from clients. can you talk to me, a little bit about what the nature of these complaints are? and then the second half of my question is, then, it looks like the action item, is there are complaints that are forwarded to hsa and my follow up question is, what has hsa doing, what do they do once they get these complaints? >> so in terms of the next question, the nature of the complaints i don't know off the top of my head. but we have monthly reports where we go over each complaint and what it was about, but they were about, treatment or alleged disrespect by the staff since that is what the majority of the complaints are. >> if the majority of the complaints that are by your customers clients are making a staff person, do you track to see, which staff person is receiving the majority? and then is there an investigation, because there might actually be something there, if it is, and if you see and if you are able to establish and see a pattern. >> so yeah, if we get name, and the problem is that sometimes, people don't wear that i name badges and the staff will not disclose the name and sometimes they don't know the name >> that is in violation. everyone should be wearing an id badge. >> yes. >> what do do you to enforce the rules? >> the staff is not following the rules, how do you expect the clients to follow the rules? >> that is a great question, part of this complaint, process, and so it kind of makes a complaint if they are not satisfied with the response, we launch an investigation, and that is when we forward it to dph and that really, involves things like you know, facilities and the conditions of the shelter. but, the thing is, that is a great question, if the shelters are not following the standards of care, what sanctions are there? if you look in the legislation, really the ultimate sanction is to fine them and that is obviously, counter intuitive and sort of --. >> has it ever been, has anyone ever before? >> not since i have been here. >> how many investigations have been launcher *f launched in the last three years. >> three years, investigations, probably like 15, or more than 15 probably. >> more than one should come on up. and shed a little light. >> so, the site visits and that may be due to the physical client complaint and part of the process is that there is a one and one interview done with the client and so part of it as you mentioned earlier is to try to see what is the validity of the complaint too. and if it appears that it looks further investigation, then what they will do is they will record it and also, notify the shelter provider and see what allow them to see the complaint. and do a response and so we try to get a date and a time and a staff. also, it is forwarded over with hsa. to take a look at it. >> once it gets to hsa then what happens? >> they will have to comment on that. what we are attempting to do, is in our dialogue with hsa and shelter monitoring in our department is to take a look at if there are certain trends or people. >> right. >> we will highlight that so that we can increase their chance on the investigation. >> because one of the difficulties of the standard of care, for example, is if it usually falls under something like, being treated with respect. and which is, and it is very, difficult if you have an incident of whether it happened or didn't happen. and so what we are, and we are recording who, and when and when we start seeing trends. and it is making sure. >> and how long have you been recording that information? >> well, for the last, at least the last year and a half. >> so this, this may be a little bit of a stretch n terms of a parallel. but when i think about the police department, for example, if we now are request the legislation that will require the officers to track a little bit more data on who is stopping whom. and if there is a trend, related to a badge number and we will begin to dive deeper. that is what i am wondering, if i have before me, 25 complaints from just next door alone, is it one or two of the same staff persons, if that is, and --. >> there is a lot and, there has been instances where the shelter providers have taken care of that themselves. and have done the, there has been firings that have occurred on that. >> have they happened at next door. >> next door is going to have, you know, the larger agencies are going to have more complaints. >> believe me, just like the larger district has more. >> and more population. so i understand that. and i am not making the comparison against each other. a woman's place is a smaller shelter. >> yeah. >> and i think that the length of stay makes a difference. >> fair enough. what i still don't have a clear understanding is, what sort of hsa what happens next? >> oh, and i mean, joyce. >> yeah. >> hsa. >> good morning, good morning. >> good morning, supervisors joyce, human services agency. and so, just a little better background. next door, has 334 shelter beds. >> okay. >> as you mentioned larger district more complaints. msc south is the next one, 334. and so, all shelter, and all complaints about shelters are forwarded from the shelter committee to the shelter. and they have a limited amount of time to respond. so they respond to the complaint back to the shelter monitoring committee. if in fact the client is not satisfied with that response from the shelter, then hsa does another level of investigation. and if it is proven that there are certain staff members who get more complaints than the others, our recommendation to the shelter is that they do a more indepth investigation of that particular staff member either provide more training or follow their personnel procedures, and if it warrants, a termination, then they terminate. but we don't provide that information to the client because it is personnel information. >> i understand. >> that basically is how we follow through. >> so one of the things you said that is really struck me, on this list i recognized that next door is one of the larger once and then the msc south, and you said 324 beds, and >> msc, also has the drop in center, the 24-hour, drop in center where there are 70 chairs in which people utilize over night. >> but, with next door, has or having, 23 client-driven complaints, whereas msc south only has 9. and there are probably most come parable in the number of beds that they have. >> that is right. >> significant. >> those are between of two. and you know, i am just, i don't know, i am just trying to dig deeper to better understand the numbers. >> sure. well, i can say that there are two different methologies in which the shelters operate. if you hear from complaints msc south is more strict. >> i see, >> with making sure that individuals follow through with the rules. so they are not apt to break the rules. and be denied services. >> whereas with -- plus, msc south has a drop in center, so they have two different dynamics and so they have to be consistent across the board with both populations. whereas next door probably not as strict in restrictive, if you want to compare the two different shelters. >> where is this located? >> 1001 polk street. >> i thought that was the one. >> yes, correct. and then msc south is 5th and bryant. >> okay. so, i don't know, we might need to look closely and in what is going on at next door and it could be a management tweak. and empowering the management that is managing the site to feel empowered to be consistent and to be even handed in applying and enforcing the rules that is just what it sounds like. i don't know that much, or all of the details. >> believe me we have had that conversation with them before. >> that is good. >> i have a couple more questions. i don't know really who to direct them to. we will just. >> okay just try. >> okay. >> for the inspections, are they are the inspections random? and unschedule? >> i am going to, that is dpa. >> okay. >> investigations, you are asking about ma'am. >> the inspections. >> those are about half are announce and half are unannounced and some are surprised. >> in the last two, quarters. >> that i am looking at it looks like, some there was a maximum of three inspections given for those that are kind of offenders. and there were violations in the third quaut and her then you went back and looked at them twice in the fourth quarter. and so, what i am just trying to understand is it can't be half if it is three. but, random, i am just, i am trying to better understand the culture and the methodology. >> according to the legislation, we have to perform four visits at each site. half have to be announced and half. >> across an entire calendar year. >> yeah. >> basically once a quarter. >> yes. >> so some of these, some of these like sandwich shop is a small quarter, there were two because we were playing catch up. in the second and third quarters we were not and we did not have a committee and a lot of vacancy and one staff and so we were far behind on the site visits. so that is why the sites like that will be, and saint joseph and like they had two, and really those are just small shelters, and no problems come out of there. and so, i mean that is numbers probably are not for --. >> basically the code determines all shelters equally will get four site visits a year, large or small. >> but we will target the larger one, like the next door because we have a lot of complaint and target them and probably go more than four times. >> bear with me. two of my shelters are on this list. and i want to talk more about. >> just a question before that. >> related. >> so we as appointed several members this year to the committee, and we have the full committee now. >> yes one seat. >> two seats. >> and there we are looking at that and trying to look at it and looking at what the seats are and one because of them is a woman, but a person who is homeless with a child under 18 and it is like, that is sort of hard to find. >> and staffing. >> full of staffing. >> yes. >> and when we the committee presented, and it was around the same time that we were making appointment and that was talked about as to why we were kind of behind and now we are caught up. >> yes. >> great. >> thank you. >> just real quick about next door, sperp cohen, it is a 24-hour, shelter and that may account, that you can go there in the daytime, and msc, they leave at 7 and back at 4:00 >> we are comparing apple and oranges. >> i get that part. >> okay. so the providence, emergency family shelter, how would one resolve the issues and i know that all staff does not wear id and i want that enforced. and perp provided two blanket, and a lack of hand dryer and toilet paper in the bathroom, the linen issue remains ongoing but all other violations were resolved. but, how do we resolve the linen issue. >> so that, and i am glad that you brought that up. actually supposed to bring up at the bottom of the executive summary, the majority of the shelters provide two blankets and that was a laundry issue and it is not because we said that it is receiving sufficient funding to purchase, but it has something to do with the laundering that has to launder, the sheets, with sheets, and general or something, with dph, they can speak on it and it is a logistica problem. >> for those small shelters that do not have washing facilities on site, our big shelters do, so they launder sheets and blanket and towels. our shelters that do not have laundry facilities, are contracted with the department of public health. so they launder every day, all of our blankets. but, sheets are a different story. because sheets are almost cost prohibitive because as nick said they cannot watch them together. so what we opted for were two blankets and not the sheets. so that has been the process probably for the last ten years or when the --. >> and this is in violation and penalized for that. >> and the reason why they have to note it is because it is still in the legislation. >> sheets and towel and blankets. >> may i make a suggestion that someone, and do that. and as the work committee, we are sitting down with dph. >> and making changes as nick said, and they were short staffed, and without committee members this past year. so, making changes will be a first priority that we will undertake with them. >> and because a lot of things need to be tweaked because it has been almost ten years that this committee was established and there has been no tweaking to the legislation. >> that is the beautiful thing about legislation, it is dynamic and needs to be tweaked. >> i don't want to quibble on this, i don't want the shelter to get penalized unnecessarily when it is actually a problem in the legislation. >> now, no pillows because the mats that we provide have the pillows attached to them. >> got it. >> and now what happened when the shelter is penalized, over and over again, and does it or do they lose the accreditation or the ability to run? ethe way that the legislation is written if they are found in violation, and that is through, we can recommend a penalty of, of fines, and fining them for a number of reasons. to my knowledge, it has never happened. >> okay. >> because, these incidents occur that could be remedied the next day but when they come back three months later maybe they are short with the paper towels or hand soap at that particular time. >> do they make you, and they, and in the shelters make their individual, purchases themself and are they in bulk and the city buys it in bulk? >> no, the city does not buy, they have a line item in the contract to purchase. >> okay, thank you. >> and my final topic not question but topic. the site was inspected three times during the reporting period, and the committee noted violations including city and shelter materials not posted in english and spanish and a lack of posted emergency exit plan and no information, posted on where to access tty. and empty hand sanitizer and dispensers and no reasonable accommodation forms available and no toilet paper in the rest rooms and the lack of signage describing the case signage and accessibility and that there were no english or spanish staff on duty that was a problem. >> at that particular problem is when the committee does not do, when they do a follow up. i am hoping to see, because we take these things very seriously. and i have a program manager that monitors this program. and then, follows behind the report, from the shelter monitoring committee. and makes sure on her site visit that these things are remedied. but when they go out again, some of these same things might be lacking and it just depends on what time they come, because, you know, they, do announce, and unannounce, visit and depending on the flow of the traffic of clients, in there, and those things kind of. >> i know, but i think that the argument carries weight when it comes to hand sanitizer and running out of toilet paper. that i understand. you know the high influx of use, but the city and materials not posted in english and spanish that is a problem. that is not okay. and that is probably due to lack of oversight at the facility. and alack of appropriate, emergency, exit plans and that has to do with safety, and that is, you know, a critical and it is not the first time, even i know about these violations. and i am going to bring up the shelter committee. to find out what has been corrected if there is a corrective action plan if at all on the united council. and you know, i mean, that we don't and we can be very honest that it is not a shining example of a high functioning shelter. >> it is not a shelter, it is a drop in. >> right. >> they do serve a very, and they do provide a needed service, however i was on that site visit with the united council. yeah, it definitely dropping in, and they definitely needed out there. >> anyone sleep ining chairs? >> we went at like nine and ten there were people dosing off in their chairs, it was a drop in, and 24, more or less for the people to take showers and do laundry. >> were these violations corrected, and the information posted on where to access the tty and the lack of signage and the case management and accessibility and there was no bi lingual english or spanish staff. these are big violations, not little, missing hand sanitizer, and so somebody come and answer, tell me. >> good afternoon, and so, just working off of our own personal memory. we did conduct another site visit at united council. during not during the period but described in the quarterly report, but the most recent quarter, that ended and they did address several of these violations. >> which ones. >> there is now an emergency, exit plan, and they do now have signage explaining where to access the tty. and they do have reasonable accommodations in english forms and now getting a spanish version. >> are the forms given or expected to translate it themselves. >> those are not typically provided to them from the shelter monitoring committee. >> was the hsa, do you give them the forms? >> well, we can translate the forms. it is not a cost prohibitive for the united council, it is just lack of a desire to follow the law. >> yes. >> and then united also, addressed the issue of not having the signage and they do now have signage about that. >> thank you very much. >> thank you guys and, thank you for your report and i appreciate it. and that is incredibly important because we have got, fragile human beings, in our care. thank you, nick. >> i think that is it. >> thank you, and thank you for your questions, as well. so we can open this item up for public comment and any member of the public that would like to comment. >> (inaudible) >> thank you, very much. >> next speaker please. >> good morning, supervisors. i would like to share with you the city and council token policy for the shelters. and resource centers, on the black of it is the allocation, there was information request by the shelter monitoring committee about the token allocation, my name is will, bailey and i am a shelter client, advocate and former member of the shelter monitoring committee. however i am here on my own time as a taxpayer in san francisco. since 1976. so, as you see the policy states that clients in shelters and resource centers can get tokens for a number of reasons. and what happens is that mta charges hsa for these tokens. so there is a lack of tokens in the system. clients are turned down even sometimes when the shelters do have the tokens. and they are entitled to them. >> and i think that it is absolutely ridiculous that mta has to charge hsa another *f and another thing that happens is that if you look on the back, providence has not gotten tokens for quite a while, yet, the clients who stay there, are entitled to tokens. what happens is the mta enforcement people know this, so when they leave the shelter in the morning, often, they are waiting to give the folks a ticket. it is ridiculous. i want you guys to look into it. we have tried to bring this up with hsa in 2012. and we didn't get anywhere. and it is, we live in a city where we can give millions of tax breaks to corporations worth billions and we can subsidize a yacht for a billionaire to 210 million dollars and this is the policy of the city that everyone who deserves a token, and get one. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> any other member of the public who would like to comment? >> okay, we will close the public comment. >> just a question for mr. camero for nick. >> just on the discussion item about tokens. >> yeah. >> and it is that the monitoring committee has --. >> yes. i had forgotten to mention it. we do in your packets there should have been something that looks like this. and and the main findings is that we need to see is that more people are not asking for token and more are asking for token and more people are unaware that there is a token policy in the shelter. and so, what we have more or less known but what this is sort of pointing to here, is that a lot of people, a, that there is nothing really letting the people know that tokens are available, and the staff a lot of times does not know the policy, and they are unable to explain it and the clients are actually being denied for not having the tokens or, maybe. and i do think that it is ridiculous as well, that the city is paying, the city for their own tokens. and it may make sense to just have these, tokens given by the mta or something, and i don't know how it will operate. and but yeah, we are paying like 24,000 or something, and a quarter or something like that we are paying, i think. >> okay, thank you. >> and yeah, we have been around the block already a few times on different departments charging each other for services that are rendered to the different departments. and just a question for hsa, and then i will ask miss crumb to come back up. >> >> what do you see that we can actually insure that the people can be well aware that there is a token system and what can they do to help with that. >> that is the first time that i have heard that statement being made but what i can speak to is that they that live in that neighborhood is and not coming from downtown and they are taking the light rail and not saying that all of them are. and the token, policy, is what it is, because it is cost prohibitive for us. and i know that this discussion, went on probably about five years ago, where we estimated that if we gave, two tokens a day, to 1100, and 24 individuals, every day, for 365 days. and it would be something like 86,000 dollars. a year, just to cover that cost. what, i can say about the tokens at providence, they are available to be picked up. but, a lot of times the, and as nick said the clients are, and their new clients and they are not aware of the policy, or they actually live in the bay view, district in don't utilize the public transportation, and would not need it. >> thank you, well, according to the chart, that was handed to us, it is not just any one that they could receive the tokens and that the places and for the most part the majority of the places have the people saying that they didn't know that there was a national program. to me, it is like how do we get the information to people. it seems like we could be more intentional about that. >> exactly. what we can do is make sure that there is signage, posted in the shelters saying that if they need tokens and list the reasons why we have the policy, and what they need them for. then they know that it is available and who to ask. >> okay. >> and we will make sure. because we meet with the shelters monthly and, make sure that they have a supply of tokens on hand to pass out when needed. >> great, it soupeds like they do. but it is about the people being aware of that service, that is available. >> okay. >> the other issue about you know, paying the mta, or this or that. and i guess that is what is most important. is that, both the departments are working well to insure that there is enough, tokens to go around for those who need it who are aware of the program. >> and then, the mta implemented the free passes for the seniors, and the youth, and we made sure, that the shelters were aware and they could help the seniors that are in the shelters and navigate the system in order to get the free pass. >> great. thank you. >> all right. >> any more questions? >> no. okay. so we closed the public comment. and we can probably close out this agenda item. but beforehand, just maybe a message to the shelter committee, just thank you for your service and also, the issue about tokens that it can be good to make sure that we are following up on and i appreciate the chart and informative. but if it is signs that one things that is needed and make sure that it is in there and your help and insuring that will be great. >> okay? >> thank you. >> so, colleagues, could we go ahead and file this item? >> this is a quarterly, report so it will not be continued to the call of the chair. >> okay. >> to the chair to make a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair. >> yes and take that without objection. >> item three. >> hearing to consider. appointing seven members, terms ending june 6, to the immigrant rights committee. there are seven seats and seven applicants. >> very good. great. and we are going to go out of order because one of our applicants and members has to leave early and so we will call melba maldonado. >> hello my name is melba maldonado, and i live in san francisco for years however i now live in the east bay. i have served in the commission and for three years. and this will be my third year. i will stay one more year because for the past two years, we have been and they have it on the issues and our commission has had many hearings, and meetings, and discussions with san francisco, immigrants from each almost each neighborhood. and we will come out with the support, of you know, the state of the immigrant community in san francisco. and for this year. and i wanted to serve especially now, because there are communities that have been under quite a bit of strain, not only because of the immigration, policies, but also what is happening in the communities in terms of housing, displacement, hel health issues, and recommendation and all of the different and aspects, that effects the, immigrants lives and so i would like to continue, to continue the work of listening and presenting it in the community at the immigrant commission. >> great, thank you. >> what do you see as the places that you have had the most expertise on and your service on the commission? >> i would say that the commission has excellent members this year. and there is a lot of very, very dedicated and brilliant people at the committee. and we will lose cathy call and she is not coming in this year. however, i personally think that my role is or has been and will continue to be to bring the voice of the community of the (inaudible) immigrants in san francisco. >> great, thank you. good to see you. >> and any more questions from the committee. okay, thank you. >> and we can go on to our next person, first on the list is edward lee, and i am not sure if mr. lee is here or maybe he is coming forward. mr. lee? >> hi. and good morning, supervisors. and my name is edward lee. and i am a child of immigrants who came to this country about 30 years ago. from south korea. and we came with little resources or connections or networks. but we came with a dream of becoming in this country and pursued that dream and this country gave them this opportunity to succeed. and they achieved their masters degrees, and their phds and are now, professors in pharmacy and computer science. and as a child of both of these professor and these parents, i believe that and i know that immigrants have a resilience and an important value to the country and especially to the city and i want to be a part of this commission, because i would like to be a part of insuring that the next generation of immigrants get the same opportunities to succeed as they did. and to talk about my experience, i worked for two years at the u.s. department of education working to insure that all students, all children have the opportunity to access the world class education. especially children of immigrants. that are known as dreamers. i have and there after i worked at the u.s. white house. and serving in the office of public engagement as the liaison for the agent, and on the community and in that role i served as a bridge between the obama administration and asian americans across the country and listened to the stories of the communities, especially the vietnamese workers who are breathing in toxic chemicals and the fisherman who are affected by the bp oil spill and the grossers and the laundry mat, owners and the business owners and i believe that in my experience, to be able to serve, the immigrants here in this city. i also believe in telling the stories of those that are marginalized. and with company, telling the stories of young people who are bullied and sex trafficking. and talking about the stories of education, and then, the importance of education. and specifically i will talk about the stories of immigrants and refugees who are very valuable part of our social fabric and these videos have received over 35 million views on you tube. i recently moved to san francisco about a year ago because i have heard of the services and the organization here in san francisco called city impact. that serves the marginalized and the low income in the tender loin district of san francisco. and it was start td over 30 years ago, by an immigrant named roger wong who came to this country from taiwan and he believed in serving the marginalized and the voiceless by giving them services, and suches education and food services and i believe in what he was doing and so i came here to volunteer for the organization and it was through that experience that i got to learn more about the plight of the people that are living in the tender loin and the homeless, and the immigrant communities such as those that came from camboida, and so with all that have said, i believe that these experiences as well as my passion to help the immigrant community will be a valuable part and contribution to this committee. and i would like to be a part of this. and really highlighting the stories of the immigrants and insuring that their voices are heard. thank you very much for this time. >> thank you, have you actually been to any of the commission meetings yourself? >>vy not been. >> okay. >> and i think that it will be good to do. not to say you know, i am interested in denying you because you haven't, but before you actually serve. >> yeah, a couple of weeks before that happens. >> absolutely. >> any questions here? >> okay. thank you. mr. lee. next person is andrei romanenko. good afternoon, supervisors. good afternoon. >> my name is andrei romanenko and i am applying for a seat on the immigrant rights commission and a couple of words about myself and my background, i arrived in the united states in 2001 from belarus and as a first generation immigrant a took (inaudible) to the nationalized citizen, and i have been a resident of san francisco for the past 13 years and i have graduated from the city college and the san francisco state university. i am a california license attorney since 2011 and i practice immigration law in the city. i do removal defense, family and business immigration. i want (inaudible) san francisco immigration court and asian caucus. this is my second time applying for this seat on the immigrant rights commission. last year, the district supervisors encouraged me to reapply. and i am here today because the russian speaking community of san francisco does not have a representative on the commission. the russians in the community it is unofficially, about 8 percent of the population of the city and the county of san francisco. and the official census data showed in 2010, that the population and the russian population, is at 4.2 percent and the richmond district alone, is consists of 6.5 percent, speaking russian. and the community, new comers in san francisco do have some support but it is very limited. and there is a russian center that was a preschool and previously there was a library. and there was a jewish community center providing some legal help, and the esl class and low income housing information to russian speakers and those services are limited and have a (inaudible) membership and some russian churches have esl classes and provide housing. our community needs more social workers who speak russian at the schools and hospitals. my clients have told me that they have waited for hours for an interpreter in a hospital and they were not offered the interpretation. and also, (inaudible) providers do not (inaudible) notices in russian although it is possible to request a interpreter over the phone they are not available, and no free help in the nationalization in the russian language. and speaking in san francisco is growing and i have noticed in my practice that the work (inaudible) is brought here and way for the seekers from the ukraine and from russia. and these people need help today, because they don't speak english and don't have access to jobs, affordable legal help and housing and medical care. and i held the russian speaking community of the city, for provide the legal help for the languages and do i referrals. proficient in russian and ukraine, and when the clients need the care, i refer them to the office of city engagement (inaudible) city hall. and the appointments to the immigrant rights commission will help me learn of the other service and opportunities available to russian speaking community in the city. and i will be able to better serve my clients and to voice the needs at the commission meetings. >> thank you. >> no questions here, and thank you for your interest, and for coming back again. when you should reapply, i like the persist ans. >> thank you. >> okay, mario paz? >> we are an organization that has 120 year history. of supporting the successful immigration of the immigrant families. i am here in san francisco we enencourage our bishop to support the rights not just locally but nationally, and we are tied to the national, policy network and we are really having a presence in washington, d.c. in trying to push forward come prehinive immigration reform. i first would like to also, really, highly support, the reappointment of my colleagues i think that they are great leaders and in the community and have worked hard to insure that we have a very ininclusive community in san francisco for all of the immigrants communities. is what we have really worked hard in the last year is a couple of issues and one that i feel and one of the reasons that i seek to reappointment is because i think that we are in the critical juncture here, in the locally and in the city. the sanctionary policy has been under attack and it has been mischaracterized. and i think that it is san francisco has been the leader both locally and nationally on this issue. i believe that every, wave of immigrants, and throughout our history has experienced the phobia and been scapegoated at the end of the day, every wave and generation, immigrants have been able to be vin indicated because of the contributions locally and to the country to make it a better place. my hope is that the city will show, courage under fire and continue to say, that, this is the right thing to do. and that, i think, is the spirit that we have in our commission. and locally, we have also worked hard, to insure, language, access, and immigrant, immigration and continue to monitor and make sure that all of our cities sources are ininclusive and can really be open to all of the immigrant communities. and so with that said, if that is sort of the passion that i bring to this work. and thank you for your consideration. >> >> thank you, just a follow up question, i appreciate you mentioning the recent attack, and the scapegoating that is happening at the national level and the effecting of the local level as well. could you be more specific about what you see as the threats to the sanctionary policy that is happening. >> i think that there is a lot of issues, there is legislation that is pending, you know, many other communities are sort of backtracking and looking deeply at the legislation, and i think that one of the issues is locally is really, going back to the spirit of how the sanctionary policy was created here in san francisco and it was really, insure that there was trusting relationships, between immigrant community and our city government and law enforcement. i think that it is, and it is a difficult, issue to put our local police officers in the roles of enforcing immigration policy. i think that is a federal issue. and i think that is the spirit and the other spirit of it was to show that we are ininclusive and we know that we are a better place when everyone feels that they can be included and contribute to our great city. and i think that is, that is the issue. so in terms of how it is the attacks for the locally, is to put in measure,s that may be puts our law enforcement in a different role. and i think that we need to stand firm and say that no we want to have the trusting relationships between the law enforcement and the immigrant communities and i think that is the important message that we need to convey. >> great. thank you. >> thank you. >> next up is celine kennelly. >> good afternoon, and thank you, and i think that we have built it in the afternoon. and so my name is celine kennelly, and i am the executive director of the irish immigration center which is an advice and referral service for immigrant and i have been working for the iapc since a riefd in the united states in 1999. and so i am starting to go into the seasoned, bracket. and i have served on the commission since 2012. and in the last and, in 2013, he served as vice chair, and in 2015, i took the role of chair of the commission. and it has been a privilege and an honor to serve the commission in all of those roles. in terms of my own background, i have designed and implemented and developed health human service and education employment programs, for those living in the bay area. and it has been, an interesting, role, and it has been, an expensive role and it has been, a non-, to serve our immigrant community and many who are undocumented and face the same challenges that, they spoke of. and in the difficult time span on undocumented immigrants in this country, and the (inaudible) city is coming under fire and we need to have a strong voice, and a strong commission to make sure that we are represented and that our immigrant communities are represented. the commission is working and i am pleased to say, as a very, cohesive unit. and it is, a very diverse, knowledgeable, articulate, and (inaudible) commission and this year alone, we have held, three hearings and policy of life issues and addressing the housing and affordability, and economy and education, and the healthcare, access and civic engagement and we have schedule to have a district hearing in district eight in november, and i know that we have been, in it, and with the supervisor cohen to come to district ten and i think that she will be with the visit and supervisor tang you might be on the list for next year. i think that all five candidates that are up for reappointment, and i would also have to extend this to the two candidates who are up for a new appointment, bring a level of experience, and knowledge and to the commission. i think the most important thing that we can be is open, and eninclusive. responsive, and collaborative with the community to bring immigrant issues to the board, and to the mayor. and that is what the commission has worked very hard to do in this past year and we continue to do for future. i think that is most of what i have to say. i would appreciate the opportunity to serve for another year. and if you so wish. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and thank you for your service and you have been very good resource as has the commission on a number of our issues that are before us or on the rights and language access. and affordability and so i appreciate your service. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay, next up, felix fuentes. >> good morning, and good afternoon. supervisors avalos and tang, cohen i am felix fuentes and i am the senior (inaudible) of civic engagement and also the field operator (inaudible) district ten and eleven and, especially the (inaudible) communities that leave in those neighborhoods. as you know there were some kind of tension in the beginning in the district ten for the show (inaudible) for the cultural issues. and we are focusing on try to help all of those, and the community. trying to provide information all of the time either on languages, or try to advice about what is out there. to be helped, and that can be part of the civic life of san francisco. and a little bit on my background, my colleagues have explained for the future and what we are working on. but let me tell you about my background. and immigrant, who came (inaudible) to this country in 1982. and my first job in this country was in the hospitality industry and specifically in the hotel industry. and right away, i noticed that the immigrants workers, and the need of the representation and the need to be educated about their rights and that is what got me involved in that immigrants are rights movement. and after working in the (inaudible) and restaurants and representative and dealing with the diverse workforce and especially the immigrant workers and the san francisco, label council and me as a candidate to represent, the organized labor in the committee in 2007, and i have been a commission, ever since, and as a commissioner, i have served as a vice chair and a couple of terms, and also, chair with the committee and now, i am serving in the executive committee. also, i have been a member of various immigrant rights groups such as san francisco immigrant rights community and the national alliance of latino americans, and the communities, and the immigrant workers rights committee. and i am also, participated in the conference, of the immigration and the balance on immigration in the country and internationally. and also, in that conference and organized for the national immigration center and the california labor federation. as a person who came from (inaudible) in 1982, i now a citizen of this country and i have experience all of the (inaudible) immigrants. and for 25 years. i had dedicated my time to help and fight for justice for immigrant communities. that is the reason. because i am here this morning in front of you. and to (inaudible) interest to continue serving or immigrant community. so something that i (inaudible) do with passion, and with education. because i will never forget my roots. and because i know that there is a lot of people out there that need to be helped reach the american dream and the reason that i would like to continue the commission. because i have been witnessing the progress of the commission in the last years. and in the last 3 years, we have become a very, solid body that have achieved a lot of goals and we need to keep fighting together for justice for immigrants. >> i just saw this morning, previous to this presentation, that there was (inaudible) in the shelter. for the language, access, and violations. and that is something that we are really focusing on. i have to say. >> very good. thank you. >> thank you. >> no questions. >> okay. >> thank you for your service. >> last candidate is toye moses, mr. moses welcome. >> good afternoon. supervisors. it is nice to see all of you. my name is toye moses and i am talking to please support my reappointment. i have been commissioner for many, many years. i really enjoy what i am doing. and mostly, immigrant from nigeria. and i came to san francisco in 1974. and i have seen a lot of changes. and i have a very solid background in public health. and very knowledgeable, in public, confronting to the immigrants. and in san francisco. like, probably like language barrier and employment, and health and housing and more importantly the stigma of being an immigrant. because like i said, i came here when i was 17. especially, you know, i had a lot of problems when i was going to school. you know? with them. and especially in the south. and also, colorado. so, i know since that was in san francisco, and it was for them and some of my ideas to helping the immigrants. and it happen to be a member of the african american. and i happen to be, you know, just to be able to help the people who are having problems. with a lot in the community and we also have it in the -- and it has been able to help the people who really need my help. and in the jail in the unit and i can see how some of the immigrants have been treated because of their language barrier. and so i want to continue doing what i am doing and we have some good, i mean, excellent, commissioners that have been working with now. and who have incredible staff who really, really care, and who really, and really enjoy, you know, what we are doing and we, we still have the good support and so it is always nice to work with the supervisors and with the mayor's office, and to be sure that the immigrants, they also (inaudible). and so, i am asking you to support my reappointment. so i can continue to help people who are, you know, really, need some help. >> we appreciate all of your support that you have been giving us and we want you to continue that. >> so, thank you. supervisors. >> thank you. mr. moses and thank you for your service on the commission. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the next up i want to call up, the director of the civic and immigrant affairs, adrian pond i am sorry that i did not see you until i called the first person and i thought that we would have you come at the end, but welcome. >> thank you, chair avalos. good afternoon, supervisors and adrian pond, the office of civic engagement and this is a critical time as you know for our immigrants and not only in san francisco, but across the country, and because our population is over a third immigrant, and we know that san francisco is home to over 50,000 undocumented individuals, many of whom work in the service industry and help to support, the infrastructure of the city. and it is critical, that we have committed, knowledgeable and hard working, commissionerers, on the immigrant, rights commission and we, and the five incumbents and i would love to have them, be reappointed and they work very hard and they are probably the most active members of our commission right now. and we have been working together as chair stated on the quality of life issues on immigrants, and particularly housing and affordability and we have been looking at some of the issues of immigrants who live in the public housing, and then, of course, working together, to defeat, the senate bill, 1814, which is an effort to eliminate the federal funding to the sanctionary cities by san francisco. we don't think that this is going to pass, we have to fight it all of the time, with the good commissioners and we are familiar with mr. andrei romanenko because he has volunteered at many of our citizenship workshops. they have lasted to up to ten hours, and he has helped with interpreter services when they need ited for emergency purposes, we are not familiar with mr. lee, but we will welcome him on the commission. thank you, just the one question that i have is the composition of the commission, relative to, the, south asian, and the middle east, community, and the community, and i know the commission has been very, very diverse as i know that we have members, representing that part of the world who >> i just want to be sure that is something that you are aware that the board is going to be weighing in on and have the commission involved. >> that would be great. >> and the commission has been supportive of the good legislation for the due process and we are also, encouraging the federal government, particularly, to engage with the community, and because i don't think that you can develop good policy, unless you talk to the people that it effects, and that is rule, that the commission is definitely putting the lead on. >> thank you and now we have the new version of scom and that is that, and also, to widle away on the protection and so having your support is great. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. >> okay, the other questions for the committee, go on to public comment. >> i have two cards as well. so, linda richardson, and alma robinson. >> and anyone else who does not have a card can come in after them, okay, thank you. >> good afternoon. supervisors, avalos and tang and supervisor, cohen and thank you for your service. to the city and county of san francisco. and i am here today to advocate, and to ask for your support for the reconfirmation of toye moses and has lived in san francisco and has heard about him and you know about his, and in the community. and in the asian american, community and definitely the african american community and he is an individual that has created many organizations and always, willing to be, a bridge, builder and always trying to make things, you know, happen. and you need someone, that can be a leader, in the immigrant, community and someone that understands your institutions and fairly well and that person that has served in that role, over and over for all of these years, is no one that has done it better than dr. moses. and you mentioned earlier about his medical, and you know, background and he did not tell you. but you know, to even (inaudible) from that and moses for years has been working very closely with the ucsf and all of the medical institutions in san francisco, and you know, on the interns and we have a lot of the young of the doctors that have graduated and they are going to graduate and the medical don't the experiences. >> and they have said that taking this job it will be beyond the call of duty and always, reaching out. and so, hoping that you will reconfirm him, so that he can continue his leadership role and his services to the city, and county of san francisco and again, thank you for this opportunity for speaking. before you all. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> good afternoon, it is a pleasure to be before you, and thank you for your service to the city of san francisco. my name is alma robinson, and i am the director of california, lawyers for the arts. and i am also speaking here on behalf of my husband, toye moses. and i don't want to repeat everything, that linda richardson just said but i would like to under score it and if his passion for service to this community. and he has so many linkages, across the country, and to africa, and he just got back from a celebration, of 25 years, of the rain of the king of his town ship, in nigeria and so he remains, connected to politics in nigeria, as well as here. and i think that he, he is a great asset to this commission. i know that he enjoys very much working with the director of the commission and the other commissioners. >> and i also want to speak very briefly and support your effort to maintain san francisco as a becon in our country and the rights of immigrants. and the procession of due process, and for making us an example of how, on treat everyone as hum mainly as possible and i listen to supervisor cohen's concern about the quality of our shelters and the services that the people get. and it is how each week that the most disadvantaged of our community. and that showed kind of what a city and a community that we are. thank you for all of your work and for making this a better city, and a better home for all of us, thank you. >> thank you. miss robinson, thank you very much. >> the next speaker please? >> thank you, chair, as of good morning, and i am here, obviously, to first of all, come mend, the director on once again, putting towing, a great, fight and getting the size of the task for the commissioners to serve again. and also, two new ones, and to have 16 commissioners, and i don't know if there is any other director out 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being around this professional on and on soccer ball and as a conductor i'd be able to work with them and it's helped my growth i had a dream of having a professional residential on and on soccer ball to be an imperial >> it operates as a laboratory we germ a national the ideas technically and work with activity artists and designers and video all over the on any given project to further the way we tell stories to improve our ability to tell stories on stage. that's part of the opera lab >> i was to investigate that aspect of renaissance and new work so that's why this piece it is important it was a renaissance composer. >> there were young people that are not interested in seeing traditional opera and like the quality and it's different it has a story telling quality every little detail is integrated and helps to capture the imagination and that's part of the opera how we can use those colors into the language of today. >> so one of the great things of the stories of opera and story combined with opera music it allows people to let go and be entertained and enjoy the music instead of putting on headphones. >> that's what is great about art sometimes everyone loves it because you have to, you know, really great you have to have both some people don't like it and some people do we're concerned about that. >> it's about thirty something out there that's risky. you know, disliked by someone torn apart and that's the whole point of what we're drying to do >> you never take this for granted you make sure it is the best if you can. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ma'am. >> good morning and welcome to the department of aging & adult services shall we call to order and roll call. >> commissioner president james commissioner loo is a little bit and scombhoo is absent supervisor kim's and please note the deputy director is present okay could i have a motion to approve the october 7, 2015, agenda. >> so moved and it's been moved and seconded for agenda >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? i's have it so the that item passes can i have approval of the okay. we have a timely more we can't approve the consent calendar here at this time for families service agency because it is over the amount item two the 42 thousand the limit is 25 we not approval that at this time okay good morning commissioner president james and deputy director on may 7th david presented to the commission a 10 percent contingency we'll use on the contracts we mentioned that we would formally put everything on the sxhenlt agenda regardless of 25 thousand for the consent to use the contingency that's why the 42 is on the consent. >> i don't - it is 25 thousand not 29 this is not the policy that we have been following and see i'm going to deny approving that at this time. >> okay. >> commissioner president james i think what she's saying the may meeting when david who at this time was head of contracted recorded to you that's y what we'll be doing you approved that at this time this is the first instance we've seen of that this is all it is instead of having to do a whole new item or 10 percent contingency it is not as though our approving a brand new item only the 10 percent contingency under extent the staff and also the contractor don't center to go through a brand new process every time a brand new item for 10 percent. >> commissioner sims. >> commissioner sims (laughter) it was from a point of clarification if we approved a budget item that is inclusive of a 10 percent conspiracy why at force at all it is already approved. >> the point is that it is just showing you again, we actually are experiencing the 10 percent contingency; is that correct. >> i'll submit it is confusing. >> yes. >> if we've already approved a 10 percent conspiracy it seems to me not appearing in the consent agenda but wrafr be assumed by the paz. >> easier for us commissioner serlina. >> my recollection at the time the approved the 10 percent we were told told when was exercised we would be notified that's why it is on the consent agenda. >> i really would this is why we have a budget committee i really would like to refer this back to the budget committee so the meat on this as a permanent item if he with approved it originally we shouldn't have to go through and put it in 0 the agenda for a 10 percent contingency downstairs i'd like to accepted it back to the budget committee. >> to look at this and a better process bra we change the rules okay. >> it was approved on may 7th it is a matter of information we're putting it on consent so technical we have your approval for the item. >> commissioner president james what if we were to do something where we put a if we have a way to put a notification on the agenda so that you know it is not a consent item you're not approving that but novelist maybe a new i don't know just a new line item you know exercise. >> i don't want to hold up the agenda today, i on the budget committee ought to use the time to look at this and find a smoother way to handle that i want to table it at this time this is not clear the process is not clear we spending time discussing this so i really want to refer it by a, to the budget committee yes commissioner serlina. >> if we table this now about it delay funding. >> we've already approved that. >> i want to make sure by tabling this aspect it will for the delay it. >> since you've approved it we're fine and then you can figure out the budget committee can figure out howe how to put it. >> there's a second item on consent i don't know. >> so on john the new director of contracts so the way we'll treat this it was approved in may and wait to figure out from the budget committee what the best process in the future. >> yes. yes. >> great, thank you. >> if i could make a incision i think the important point of visibility will be around when and if and how often a 10 percent contingency is deployed not as a consent item but not monthly or quarterly but good for us from the responsible point of view to be aware the 10 percent is deployed on one program or another not all but a sense of a year how often the 10 percent gets used. >> all right. we supposed to take action and not discuss those items on the consent agenda with that, could we - we could take that item off and approve the one item of 5 thousand dollars on the consent agenda i need a motion. >> so moved. >> moved and seconded for the disability >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? i's have it so the that item passes could we have approval the september 2, 2015, meeting minutes? >> so moved. >> any correction? >> could you have a motion to approve. >> so moved. >> seconded. >> been moved and seconded the minutes. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? the i's have to that motion carries. >> during public comment at this time? >> good morning commissioner president james and commissioners i want to afford ourselves the center center this opportunity i was instructed by the board and administrative staff unfortunately ann is not there in that chair we know she will be retiring soon and your perfectly acceptable we as an organization make sure that 2016 is our 45 year thank you to ann for all her support and hard work in terms of contractors agencies like the senior center our relationship when she was a case worker if you will, and various other agencies that provided care and support to seniors and to just be perfectly honest to see the economy rise all the way up to department chair in terms of the office on imaging amp angling is a remarkable accomplishment we want to say that she'll get a lot of accolades but folks from the grassroots communities would you, please send that over to director. >> yes. i will and director hen will be at the meeting in november so if 0 she's definitely planning on being in the last meeting and if people want to say it at the last meeting. >> hopefully, i'll be able to be there we want to get it on the record you know how things become and thank you very much commissioner. >> thank you any public comment? hearing none we'll move to reports employee of the most for the department of aging & adult services commission we recognize jeanie chang (clapping.) so i just want to start off by saying i was ham that jeanie katie tang was selected and employee of the month this month she works closely with me i want to talk about how great she is (laughter) i know you on the first thing jeanie doesn't look like this, in fact, the biggest collection of harley davidson i asked her i want to see a fanciest harley davidson short she sclaenz up well, so i want to start off by asking you know there you are a bunch of people to support jeanie hopefully, you'll stand and see who is here to support jeanie today so this is incredible jeanie is my assistant and works closely with me as you can see jeanie is a support to the cyber department of casing department of aging & adult services she can do anything a utility and jack of all trades when they came into to work with me i have no idea about the capacity but as people what happens with people that are good with things they get those piles of work and japanese i didn't takes on piles and piles of work she's so good we add things to her plate but somehow manages to do all of this this morning i was talking about a a clerk andrea ashbury colleague describe jeanie in one word grounded she takes on things when she gets a new task jumgdz into it so a couple of things i wanted to see about her, she does besides assist any for all the managers having a hard time with the system jeanie knows how to do that i say can you fix this our budget forms we have to do if we screw up she know how to fix them she was one of the people that worked with tom and hugh and joseph and other people on the alzheimer's walk and threw herself into that we raised $30,000 as a department this year she does special things for ann and dennis us on the department of aging & adult services days and works with planning i have to say we don't have people like her we are fortunate and want to thank you on behalf of the department all you do (clapping.) >> and i get thi get thisy gu >> (clapping.) >> director's report deputy director sherry republican back on so director hen sends here apologizes she can't be here she mentions last month, a meeting with the villages and jacqueline and others are in seattle or went to seattle to do a presentation about the villages and what san francisco is doing with the villages so hopefully that went reality well and rushing back tonight to be here foyer marty's retirement and leaving tomorrow morning she has asked me to let you know she is on the office on the 19 only is that right she's traveling for work and trying to get in vacation a couple of things this week that looks like the standards act issues for in house services will go through it means that ihss workers will have a right to over time a pay that means that it is kind of a nightmare for the staff how to implement that and it looks like because there were an appeal and the appeal waltz denied that the f l s a will go into effect november 19th we have little time we're looking like the director is scrambling to make sure that we have the staff in place to be able to handle all of that administrative extra administrative work this is a big thing on the horizon for ihss and the second thing the people if ihss are not here we had an award that come from the stat to our ihss program our staff has seven years of completion or 90 percent completion of the reassessments for clients that's reels huge most of you know that ihss in san francisco has a greater penetration rate with total population than any other population ihss program in the state we have high clients and a caseload yesterday we have a pacific heights party for accident ihss staff to recognize for the level of services is really good (clapping) >> joe nelson left our program director for adult protective services weighing we've depended with the health association and usf to do a reporting project to look at basically had a intensive work with people that have behavior what intensive work terms of in terms of changing that behavior jill throughout the commission might be interested in getting a presentation at some point if commissioner president james our interested she'll come sometime and do a presentation it is interesting and help inform how we do some of the work in the adult prospective services in the future i think that is basically what i have right now director hen doesn't give me things i know she probably had updates in the federal government and state but she'll have to report in november when she gets back. >> thank you. any questions for the commissioners? any questions hearing none thank you very much now the advisors council report good morning commissioner president james and commissioners deputy t the advisory committee meet on wednesday, september the 16 that meeting we discussed an article that was written by mrs. robin douglas from the engaged magazine the summer edition on an issue that people thought were for a younger generations billions rotunda the school yard and bullying among seniors that is a phenomena that is taking shape across the country and more research is being done we think of bullying we - we think of younger folks in high school and colleges that is taking place in adult day seniors and senior living facilities and more research is being done on this interesting article the california's living edge engaged summer edition once more research and looking at that also at this time we had a presentation by mrs. karen garrison she came and gave an overview of the two projects air engaged in the senior program project and the foster program she did a wonderful overview it was a great presentation by her >> our membership committee i'll put that to the last at the last commission meeting we had a report regarding c s l with a vacancy from san francisco county i'm happy to announce mrs. betty is phil that vacancy question we have two folks they'll be representing the city and county of san francisco at the c s l the california senior legislator we have the education committee having a presentation at the center this coming friday i'm happy to say that the seats went within two weeks it is a full house on elderly abuse updates and resources a great panel we'll be doing more in the series on elderly abuse i think hopefully, they'll also look like this one and we don't have thing but at least we're always looking for new people on the council i'm pleased to say that we have a new council person if district 11 ms. patricia patty who is in the audience patty come and introduce yourself to you. >> good morning and thank you, everyone i look forward to serve i work with the community connectors introduce the committee campaign and our connectors are located balboa park i mean balboa high school the way we measure our success seniors walking listen to come to our exercise class and walking home together so we're slowly building wonderful relationships i ask you to follow up on facebook thank you. >> thank you. >> were there any questions on my report i'm sorry? none >> oh, yes. >> yes. >> i was just checking i think the nominating committee she needs to appear i'll have to check that out before the nominating committee. >> yes, ma'am i wanted to check with any advisors. >> she was appointed by commissioner avalos. >> she went before the rules committee they appointed her. >> okay let me check you'll check that out i think we usually do that's why i was checking with any vice president they come before the commission for approval okay. but i will check out the bylaws i think that is important just one question application. >> i'd like to thank madam secretary bringing he did for giving the advisory committee updated and new binder as new council folks come before broad they'll have the bylaws and how to proceed thank you bridget. >> thank you the joint legislative committee report. >> so diane our co-chair is not here diane provides this report to the commission so as the moon is to the sun i'll do the best i can to reflect the the wisdom amen. >> i have interesting things to report we met on wednesday, september 16th and since that time several pieces of legislation were assigned by the governor and those islam i've been made aware are the following ab x end of the life option introduced pie sxharz with co-author and senator mark leno the legislation was sb 28 the bill cleared the cattle senate but installed in the assembly in july the authors has introduced a by josh it authorized on a adults determined by his or her attend port commission to make a request for drugs pursuant those o those provisions for the purpose of ending his or her life the legislation will expire in 10 years unless it passes another law to extend it the govern signed even though bill quote i don't know what i would do in a progressed and painful situation to consider the option afford by the bill i will not deny that to others california will be the 5 state for suicide behind oregon washing michigan and developing ab the transfer on death d legislation was a passed by assemblyman glen call it was signed into law a homeownership should be deed to upon passing assembly bill will not only remove a layer of stress but relief california's over-burdened court system by assuring that real property didn't enter the bureaucratic probate process the task force was passed she recall brown authorized the legislation that establishes the task force on family caregiver for the challenges faced by chavez and opportunities to support and review the services and supports available to caregivers it is my understanding the signing of those 3 pieces of legislation the total senior legislator c s o chartered in the 33 history is 2 hundred and 9 pieces of legislation our committee also enjoyed enjoyed a presentation from dana private attorney that concerned others lgbtq task force prior to his position worked in the elderly law project of the national center for lesbian rights his report on the lgbtq long term car facility bill of rights sponsors by supervisor wiener and commissioner avalos is it makes it clear illegal to discriminate against elderly based on their squall orientation or hiv status the legislation spells ousted what constitutes discrimination against the lgbtq folks in those facility it doesn't introduce any new rights but clarifies the rights of people that exists under laws a tool for advocates to provide important suck since guideline for populations the ordinance will make the caregiver to - including designating a lgbtq liaison that undergoes training to respect the residents issues to be replaced by pronounce of their choice and the two residents to share a room not reassignments as a complaint of a gender or squall orientation identity it will be based on their lgbt status drugs specific to an lgbt residents is covered by the ordinances as the refresh my memory to care facilities to allow them to use restrooms available to other genders it is recorded in san francisco there are 88 residential care facilities 22 nursing and 75 remaining adult sfaltsz for a total of one 75 location subject to this ordinance dan recorded other community i counties are looking this for a good luck in the respective locations not a meeting the joint legislative committee next on wednesday in front of 18 you thank you new commissioner co-chair. >> just call me moon. >> okay then any questions from the commissioners okay. thank you long term care coordinator council report. >> good morning, commissioners i'm ann i'm a member of the long term court reporting council the chief officer on meals on wheels today i'll give you an update and highlights from the last meeting we met on thursday september 10th the long term the highlights is from the steering committee i met that kate howard from the mayor's office to make sure that we let her know where we are headed similar to here but on a monthly basis we heard from kathy on the party planning for the party with a purpose i hope most of you heard of that on october 3rd from 12 to - registration online it is acknowledging the 10 year of the long care council it includes mary as our mc and others from aging the keynotes speaker four break out sessions the goal of action items to report back to the large group all the invitation are out and we have capacity for 200 and 50 people a presentation the meeting was focused on housing the presentation was from bryan chu from the mayor's office of housing and community development regarding the portable housing to make sure the forms and practices are consistent with the providers we heard from michael solomon that provided an update of the building of the system and by the end of the year that will go live we don't have the launch date and the short term former process will follow it was noted not everyone has access to computer and/or smart phones we eye paper so we made a recommendation there is a communication and synergy between the mayor's office of housing and community development and san francisco housing authority so bryan chiu u chu confirmed he'll reach out and - also, we had a presentation from the mayor's office of housing and community development focused on the housing bond to get an update to it was a general it was to be routine by the planning commission, and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote overview of the 2015 general obligation bond the city starts the rehab of 14 hundred units next month and 2 thousand more coming over the summer the bill was to make thirty percent of the housing development affordable and those are the highlights any questions about it? >> one quick question about the party for a purpose. >> yeah. >> 12 thirty to 5:30 when is the actual party. >> that would be i'll get back to you. >> we'll get back to you. >> i know the schedule what was the question. >> when the actual program or someone want to stop by but not be there the whole time. >> (inaudible). >> great, thank you. >> thank you. c jessica. >> next the take tick report kathy russ so not here case good morning, commissioners sherry reign with the catholic charity i'm representing case case is this is our advocacy platform season we have multiple committees five or six putting together and developing a platform for their issue of concern they're out collecting data and doing their research our groups are very, very busy right now our meeting in october is normally schedule for october 12th columbus day we wanted to invite ann to honor also known as schedule changed to the next monday october 19th and get feedback if ann she's departing our platform will be finalized in november and the last concern is if case in that the 80 r d c add back dollars what can given to the department of aging & adult services and case really felt they were specific and what our advocacy platform was the a b r.c. how the dollars are defying you didn't do individual up and some district have and we understand the department of aging & adult services has the ability to shift around the numbers we notice a question about unit of service with full-time equalcy to staff for the clients that are being asked to serve our concerns with the a b d c dollars add back and brought to your attention and hoping that things get ironed out a little bit those are our concerns any questions. >> would you stayed that again your concern i'm listening and originally case platform was that every district in san francisco would have a one full-time qualitycy staff we are not sure that happened it looks like things shifted we understand and the other concern the number of units of service agencies are being asked to do where is the parity which one full-time person their asked to do this many units of service and one-half additional or the same units of service so there is questions that have been raised as case bringing it forward as concerns. >> thank you uh-huh. >> any questions for commissioners and i want a clarification your concerns were discussed with staff prior to the development of the budgets we're being asked to approve today; is that correct. >> they've been discussed i guess when we were looking when what we saw agencies kablt compare against other agencies there are a question of the parity and why the expectation is different those questions are raised in the past. >> the staff will be aware of the supervisorial district by the units of service they understand where you see potential adjustments or movement during the presentation of the budgets we could direct such questions for staff he did staff will be prepared to answer those questions. >> i believe so. >> thank you any old business? is none at this time new business review the funds for 6 month report january by kari wong okay. >> hi, good morning commissioners. >> good morning. >> i'm kari wong the director of the long term. >> could i have a motion ionize i'm sorry to discuss. >> it's been moved and seconded our on now. >> start over par. >> there's nothing to approve that's what i thoughts i was right go ahead. >> good morning. i'm kari wong director of long term care for the department of aging & adult services i have the pleasure 6 is this better? arrests i have the pleasure of presenting highlights of the c l s the living fund report to you this report period between january and june 2015 as you may know the community living fund provides in home services using the case management and the purchase of services to the mechanism for the institutiontion during the period their continues to be a steady referral sources to the community living fund one hundred 44 referrals and during the same time time period we served more clients than normal 6 hundred and 59 clients record breaking from the previous six months because of the transitional purposes slow the senior center a subsidiary of the home services programs that was doing the transitional care contract with medicare during the same time period a satisfaction survey that was pilfered to clients in june of 2015 and it was a very high 85 percent satisfaction for the clients that received the services the response rate was 74 percent out of a total of hundred and 79 and lastly c l f was awarded one million dollars for the fiscal period to focus on home care and hateful laguna honda was the focus on those trifgs c l f will target recipe from other san francisco based on transitioning into the community so not just laguna the housing support services through the scattering sites will be empowered and looking for the xhaushgal details with the master lease holders and provide housing retention that will have more updates in the next staff report that concludes the highlights of the report any questions? >> oh, commissioner sims. >> one a minor one in the demographics portion of the report there is a bullet that says almost 1/3rd for instance, referrals from white it is should wish stated more than 1/3rd is 33 percent and the other question i had about the demographic study one of the things we've learned from the lgbt task force it was difficult to track our lgbt self-identifying seniors in the city no reference in the report to that segment it is interesting to understand and no gender definition been men and women it would be interesting to have a better understanding of that you. >> we can look at that and see how grand letter we can get in the next report. >> i really have the concerns bus it was hard for me to review this report i'd like it in color if it comes in color we should be able to afford it is hard to see the shades here and i think we know afford what 7 copies for the commission i really would like to see this in color you have demographics like this this is no way for us to see for me so see the difference here. >> i'll be happy to provide the copies for this report in the future we can - >> i'd like to have a paper copy. >> sure we can do that. >> the commission can afford that. >> absolutely. >> thank you when you have reports like this with different scales it is much easier to read and see where the differences really lie thank you because we get the budget in color. >> oh, i agree. >> we get the budget in color. >> absolutely. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> any other questions from - thank you thank you. >> okay. next item on the new business all items are voted by the commission requesting item a request to modify the grant agreement with bloipt for the provision of aging and disability resource center during the period of july one 2015 to june 2015 an additional amount of $66,000 accomplice a ten percent contingency fee for the revised not to exceed the amount of three hundred and 39 thousand plus could i have a motion to discuss. >> so moved and okay. your on jason. >> good morning commissioner president james and commissioners and deputy director so as you can see i'll be present on a number of those items or the remainder of the items you'll be talking about the different sites throughout the city that are aging and disability aging strrz they provide information to the seniors and adults with disability i want to point out before i forgot one of the pattys concern that is money be used to fund ad r.c. sites specifically every one of those dollars is being used to fund ad r.c. sites specifically the ad backs to bringing up every single position and every site from the point one to a full fte so give you a little bit of background on the ad r.c. i presented last year as a reminder this is a new initiative we started in fiscal year 2014-2015 higher years we had one lead agency providing the ad r.c. stenographers 22 different sites with throughout the city where someone half time and some by appointment only we're looking changing the model for 2014-2015 to have less sites by open more often by 5 offices people will, coming in more often from the regular neighborhood sites to get information this is services rather than having to set up on appointment or maybe come on a monday, wednesday, friday for a couple of hours i believe that hypothesis is correct an increase in the clients consumerism's coming in a 5 percent increase from the previous year in fiscal year 2013-2014 this was for a lot of agrees hiring and start up around september this is quite a great success for the new model we've shrunk from 2022 but representing every supervisory district and provided more robust services so throwing out through case and going to the board of supervisors as patty said we raised all every .8 ftes that was where we were funding to one full-time fte looking at doing a thoughtful analysis of sites throughout the city and in the last fiscal year when i noticed is that not only is are those sites providing great services for duplicateing a translation or form they'll coming back multiple times two to three times a year in those provisions we're looking at we're going beyond duplicate indicating the account how much information provides and follow-up are those by phone are those ad c sites presiding they're providing a valuable service that where people are coming in multiple times the agency. consistent in total contract but in do you see that person here in court todayed consumer contact we're providing self-hem to those who have 3 sites two in the chinatown area and one of the sunset providing an additional ftes and online with an extra half of a position to again to help with this influx of not only new consumers but consumers coming back multiple times >> so that's a little bit of the background so through each one of the items as you can see most of them are related to the cost of people up to a full-time fte then with thirty street on a additional half position and self-help one fte. >> commissioner. thank you. >> i just wanted to go over the location of the services golden gate is that a location in the castro they provide services at the castro senior center and is that where district 8 is located the representative for about district 8. >> district 8 is. >> includes the castro. >> right and offhand. >> golden gate into richmond. >> yes. that's. >> district one. >> district one golden gate senior centers the responding center in district one. >> where is the service provide for district 8. >> served by open house and it is also i believe there's a site this serves district 7 and 8 that would be sorry 30th street. >> that's okay jason is not familiar with the surprisingly district to district 8 is served by 30th street as an open house. >> thank you. >> you had a question. >> my question is looking at this i'm looking at the old list and the problem is that when you change frequently the site location this confuses the seniors because they get use to going to a place and all of a sudden you change it and so because we don't go you know they like to remember so every year have we changed the location i think we should be very careful. >> that's a very good point we were aiming to stop in this new model in the older model for the 4 years the agency was operational that was a large turnover in sites and personnel so but with this new model it is set sites those 12 sites have not changed and will not change for the next two years. >> unless they're not functioning the idea that was total confusion with us changing this commissioner sims. >> are you representing jason that all supervisorial district are are recommended evenly and adequately how would you explain. >> for supervisorial offhand district 3 that is where the chinatown is oath traffic for translation services and filling out forms maybe not as much traffic in the sunset or richmond ear it is not equal the numbers are not equal across the city their adequately represented that serves a couple of districts thirty street serves districts seven and eight and another contractor that serves borrowed the one two districts that serve the community but there is some debate about whether or not the coverage is adequately addressed. >> that's what we're trying to do especially in the chinatown area and at 30th street we are seeing a lot more consistent traffic were note only duplicated for consumers coming multiple times for those two sites specifically there is dazzles more of a consistent trend over the last couple of months. >> commissioner if i could add we're very fortunate to get the ad back money that brings everyone up, up to one fte jason is trying to analyze the numbers but both the unduplicated by the number of contact we don't have duplicated and try to make our system work, in a way those ordnances serving more people or serving them with more hours and more contract can have a little bit more we know once we go through each line item you'll have a chance to ask questions about those but we'll be careful watching this and analyzing and monitoring as we going forward we can there is a need for the service it may not be completely adequate but right now that's what we're going for. >> it is weighed in favor of chinatown and someplace else and the area that 30th street serves in the outer mission area. >> well, let's just - any other questions about we're talking about bayview hunters point now they want to approve that one any questions about this one at this time any further questions any public comment? any public comment? at this time hearing none. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> emphasizing. >> did we read the actual. >> yes. >> i called for the motion yes, i did. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? i's have it so that motion carries be the modification with the catholic charity for the provision for asian and disability ad r during the period of july one 2015 through june 30, 2015, in the additional amount of 20 thousand plus a ten percent contingency for a revised total not to exceed amount of 200 and 13 to tell us plus skas jason is on again, a motion to discuss. >> so moved your second. >> you're on. >> well again as with item a and b the catholic charities ref infrastructure funding to a full-time fte okay. >> so those two i'm looking our old schedule from the asian and be disabled resources center i'm chefk off the ones at the same location at this time it is the two that we've discuss as far were from last year and the same location. >> for those of us who don't have the disadvantaged of a lace list. >> the old o m i senior center located and 65 beverly street in the 34142 district 11 and bayview hunters point with the first one we discussed and they are they still at 56 hundred thirsted. >> yes. >> okay. so this is 9341 district 10. >> in the western edition senior center. >> we're not there yet. >> we're talking about the bayview. >> under the umbrella of bayview as the agency they manage two sites one of the bayview correction sites and this one we approved that was both sites we approved the first thing. >> that's right. >> oh, we did. >> the weshs is d-6. >> so that one has both sites the western edition. >> right. >> that would be in i don't think so them on here oh, yes, he did on turk street so they're located there so that would be supervisor breed. >> supervisor breed district. >> alrighty any any public comment? at this time on item b any public comment? hearing none i'll call question. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? i's have it that motion carries. >> okay item c request an authorization to modify the grant for the golden gate senior service for the provision of disability resource center ad r.c. during the period of july one 2015 to june 30th, 2017, an additional amount of 36 plus plus a 10 percent contingency for a revised total not to exceed the amount of one hundred 98 thousand plus can i have a motion to discuss. >> so moved and second. >> yes. again, this is for the richmond senior center to bring their position from on a ferment ftes. >> this one is located in the. >> richmond. >> in the richmond district and i don't have this one from last year. >> you referenced the district. >> there is to - so we've changed it. >> richmond is on geary boulevard 6221 geary boulevard that would be the richmond district. >> correct. >> do you have the - >> do you have an address there? >> golden gate i don't have that. >> sorry offhand i don't have the address it is on the list. >> 62 geary. >> that's was last year i just had that question any other questions? >> any questions? >> okay public comment on this one? >> is there - >> (inaudible). >> okay. >> any other questions. >> thank you. >> thank you for clarifying that we'll have we won't have to look >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> > opposed? i's have it that motion carries request an authorization d request an authorization to modify the grant agreement with the northern california press the reason homes san francisco centering self-center inform the department of aging & adult services ad r.c. during the course user during july one 2015 to june 30th, 2015, an additional amount of 61 thousand dollars plus plus a 10 percent contingency invited amount of $437 plus a motion to discuss. >> so moved. >> so the nc pcs runs two centers offhand i couldn't tell you what district that is. >> 2 and 6. >> thank you all right. any questions for commissioners . hearing none i'll call question >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? i's have it that motion carries item e request an authorization to modify the grant agreement with the day services for the provision of agents and ad r.c.burg or during the period of july one 2015 through june 30th, 2017, an immediately amount of 69 to tell us plus plus a 10 percent contingency for the rise total not to exceed amount of 200 and 65 thousand plus can i have a motion to discuss. >> so moved and second. >> okay. this one is to add an additional hachlt position at the senior center. >> okay are there any questions he at this time from the commissioners okay public comment? good morning valerie the director and also part of case board and i first want to say that i want 0 commend the department for taking a risk and trying a new model i've been around a long time and ii have seen many versions that has been a great success we're accounting the kings but i want to say this is a model is working and probably will worker better and we go forward on fine tuning it so the numbers and the units of service continue to fib looked at and modified and we're doing that with along with jason and his team a great success as far as 30th street we coffer district 8 and 9 so when we went about the advocacy i actually headed up the folks for case we wanted to make sure that everybody all the sgrikts got covered so since there was no agents in district 9 at this time that went in for the rfp we were hoping that 30th street got 23 ftes when that didn't happen we were part of it but we were grateful for the .5 huge numbers and i think that is about location when there are other things oftentimes a lot more foot traffic on the daily basis the ftes seize 10 people a day and has thirty days advanced appointment with 35 we'll address that need but have a feeling again, there are are more neighborhoods that have anyone lingual people into the weeds it more language continues to be a barrier to services and see those resource centers is helping people to navigate that more effectively he like what sherry reign said there will be more needed we know that the number of people coming out the aging network is growing and we're seeing that certainly in our program so thank you >> thank you is there any additional public comment hearing none i'll call for the question >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? i's have it that motion carries thank you are we on f request for authorization to modify the grant agreement with open house for the provision of aging and adult ad r.c. from july one 2015 in the additional amount of $7,000 plus plus a con percent contingency not to exceed amount 200 plus thousand dollars can i have a motion to discuss. >> so moved. >> second. >> you're on. >> so again like most of sites we're bringing that position from a .8 fte to one full-time fte i do want to point out they're serving district 8 but also serving citywide too like two works in the new model to reach communities that were not necessarily assessing ad r.c. serves as much in the past the lgbt community and young adults with disabilities having tool works into the mix with new agencies in the last year is helpful in getting the word out of ad r.c. services that is beyond our historical penetration in the community okay. he know she said that but i'm looking at 1800 market street is that still the same she said that was the same on the fourth floor. >> that's right. >> okay. all right. i wanted to be sure any comment from the commissioners. >> just madam chair i'd like to acknowledge i'll, recusing myself from this item. >> yes. thank you. >> any other comment from the commissioners? public comment at this time? any public comment? hearing none i'll call for vote >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? i's have it so that motion carries g request an interrogation to modified the grant agreement with the self-help for the self-help for the ad r.c. from jill one 2015 to june 30th, 2015, in the additional amount of one hundred ti thousand dollars plus a 10 percent contingency not to exceed amount of 6 hundred and 71 thousand plus. >> can i have a motion to discuss. >> so moved. >> second. >> okay. >> so for self-help 3 sites two in chinatown and one in the sunset area so this money will be used to bring our positions up again to full-time position and adding an additional ftes shared amongst the 3 sites a floater within the two sites. >> okay any questions? maybe a summary statement how much full-time staff and how many are increased. >> so each sites as had a points 8 ftes so we're increasing two a one full fte and alexander an additional one we're addressing adding one .6 across the two sites. >> okay. any other questions. >> the math probably works it seems like a significantly large budget item than similar appropriations for other agencies is there any difference in compensation model or overhead or something that contributes to a bigger cost per increase. >> i'm not an expert i think there increased fringe benefits bringing people up to full-time fte and agency and sites by agency i'll not be able to answer an analysis that is more for budget to answer i'm sorry, i do know there is more indirect cost because - >> what agency. >> depends upon the agency. >> my question is this. >> i won't be able to answer that. >> the total cost. >> a significant bigger bump for other agencies that seems like a lot of money trying to understand the justification for - >> is it. >> it is more do i believe and you're adding less than two additional people in other cases you're bringing people up to one it looks like a lot of money for one agency. >> i know i'll not be able to offhand with self-help i'll not be able to answer that question than with some the contracts they're adding indirect costs with the initial budget with last year that maybe the reason but i'd have to get back with you. >> someone here from budget that can perhaps answer the question. >> we have two sites just with this. >> ohio commissioners and director we're adding a one like - because in the beginning they have a larger amount that's why we're adding the one full-time employee and then the two - yes i don't have full answer of that maybe i can collect the information from the contractor but they're adding the full-time employee and commissioners. >> they're going from 2.4 to 4 across the 3 locates so and the question from commissioner sims it that that increase which is about - more than doubled even though you're not doubling the number of staff perhaps once you get full-time employees benefits go up and other costs for them this is the understanding the question that is being asked if you don't have it that's okay. >> also look at it there is an increase of supervisor costs we're adding another fte florida there is costs it is a combination this is it is probably all legitimate i'm uncomfortable with the explanation a. >> please. thank you. >> good morning. i'm martha petersen in looking at how thirty this model has been budgeted it look like roughly with you increase 4.2 ftes for each agency that comes out to roughly $31,000 across the board, however, with self-help we are doing that 2 it is $31,000 for each position getting increased but for self-help we're spreading it across 8 positions the grand total is one point of people total ti thousand dollars if you look at that's how much self-help is charging when you - it is actually coming out less than how we been compensating other agencies so for the amount of people that are increasing the amount of staff it is less than what we are giving me to other agencies so - >> so if i understood it is normally 31 thousand thorough a .2 ftes your you increasing if you multiply by that it is much more. >> across the entire model it looks like it is more but there is more staff increased so it looks like in the scale is larger it is actually no does that help. >> yes. >> question talked about funder go sites at this time with the self-help. >> there are 3 sites. >> 3 oh. >> yes. >> any other questions is that clear. >> yes. thank you. >> public comment at this time? okay >> i'm looking at the budget and from last year to this year i see where the increase is going with the catholic charities i've increased their staff if you look at the line item they've added a new person from a $17,000 person to a $36,000 person and 33 salary to 36 and thirty thoughts to 36 so my calculations i'm not sure what they were talking about is more than one .6 increase in ftes the way the salaries with written on the budget page and then ramp went up to. >> i'm sorry what. >> rent by 21 thousand that's a different figure if year to year. >> any - are we waiting for the budget committee any comments from the budget committee at this time? >> oh. >> commissioner sims has a question also so. >> she mentioned the rental property from 7 thousand to 11 thousand plus it is a $4,000 difference. >> commissioners and she mentioned the rental property there's by angle average of $4,000 along those lines he was comparing the previous operation items and some of them identify the property rent-controlled units equipment for this one i was wondering if i'm missing something in terms of property rentals across other agencies. >> hi i can't answer that. >> it is how they budget it those sites have different budget may not charge represent it is the difference across the board in how agencies account for those things. >> okay. >> is there answer from the budget committee on - oh, commissioner sims question. >> i cannot help but feel my understanding was that staff would be pretty well addressed from case report it sounds like as though it there were extended dial around controversy and some level of debate around some of those budget allocation i don't feel that staff is as prepared to present some of the things as i thought they might be so i'm age concerned. >> i think that the first concern was that everybody that all of the sites go from where we were .8 to one full-time person i'm sorry, i'm sorry we're not more presented from the jason and my conversations about the sheer numbers at self-help sites we need to increase it by more so they can address the niece of people waiting in line for the services that's was jason's intent in adding that extra .3 to each the 3 sites that we're looking at today, i have reviewed the numbers with him and feel strongly we need to do that i'm sorry it is not clear how to looks at in footstep budget why those numbers we're not having a bettered understanding i'm not sure we've been very clear that self-help needs the increase in terms of their personnel. >> since there's a discrepancy here this is why we have a budget committee i know the meeting you don't need but those kinds of things can be accounted at that time, i'm thinking of like i'm sending something else to the budget committee many say the kind of thing that needs to be worked out with the budget committee and go back to the budget committee to really look at it and clarify so when we get to the commission meeting you know those doubts had a third accounting in terms of what needs to be done so i'm looking at my budget and wondering is this something that i would hate to table at this time but i'm want to worry about the pleasure to send it back to the budget committee for a review pending which pleasure how strong we feel about this at this time i'd like to hear from you commissioners. >> to begin with can we we've approved the other parts of overall i'm not sure we can table one part. >> each item you can vote on each item i don't know but we vote on each item to either table or action or approve that so you can table things and send it by a, to the budget committee we don't want to interrupt their operations it might be necessary if you're not thoroughly satisfied with the answers we're getting today and the skrerpz we have before us from the budget - >> so i'm new to this but that question came up when we reviewed the packet so i know there was the addition to make hold the .8 pegs or positions to one my understanding why two 0 agencies got one fte more than others my understanding was that there was more traffic through the sites and more of a program need that's why it was handles definitely than good evening from point a to point ftes we added one whole fte so self-help and the half to the other agencies that's i mean it is more than an explanation of needs in terms of services required at the sites that's the justification. >> i also wanted to point out with a lot of the sites they were not operating on july 1st some of the operating experience we look at the 36 thousand they're paying for full-time positions last year we were not paying able to hire at sunset not hiring someone on july 1st there is a looks like a large increase in what they're being paying each position but now their fellowship staffed from july to june in 2016 we're paying an actual full-time position a lot of the sites were not up and running in july. >> commissioner sims. >> well, my comment would be that in large part we're asked to trust the analysis and due diligence and work that is done by the department in preparation of those proposals that sounds significant conversation from riders in the community and the staff around this package i wouldn't want to embarrass anyone but far more prepared with granule discussion so we're not left with a trust me vote rather than a vote with full confidence all the information is fully evaluated and appropriate. >> any others comments from commissions on this tell me any further unreadiness okay did you have a comment? public comment at this time? >> yeah. good morning. i'm nick with the senior services and looking over i don't want to barbara program your instructions were to this money would be used to bring staff from point a up to full-time this is how the money would be used i look at the operating expense detail of the program you're talking about now they've using the this increase for increase in rent and we were not told to use the money for operating expense increases so i'm just wondering how they were able to do that and we were not? >> anybody want to staff? >> can you explain that? >> so i'd like to refer to eileen. >> elaine i don't have the prior years budgeted to see the years rent that's not my contract maybe they had an increase this year they submitted to us last year those contracts go on for 3 years so i really can't verify if this is an increase the ad r.c. funding sfoordz only increased the staff from 8 to one that's it not other areas what was the fringe benefit and the indirect you're going to bring a person with full-time benefits so far as i am concerned, there were on increases for staff. >> okay. >> that increase in rent was authorized prior to this ad back fund has nothing to do with with the ad back funding the staff $36,000 a term of the remainder of the contract you're looking at 70 thousand. >> huge increase if other programs so they have 70 thousand increase with the fringe and indirect that is why the money is municipal court higher than you see in the other contracts one thing to point out this question why this one is so much more than the others. >> thank you. >> uh-huh. >> any other comments from the commissioners? are you ready to vote public comment we heard from the public on this yes okay. i'll call the question are you ready? >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> of approving that budget and presented say i and. >> i. >> opposed? the i's have it so that motion carries the last item requesting an authorization to modify the grant agreement with two works under the provision of asian and disabled research center for the period of july one 2015 through june 30th, 2017, an additional amount of 20 thousand plus plus a 10 percent contingency hold on a revised total not to exceed amount of one hundred and $54,000 a motion to discuss. >> so moved. >> second. >> okay. your on. >> great so our last item this is for two works to bring over or their position to a full-time positi position. >> okay too works is on the last year so any comments from the commissioners? any comments? okay public comment on this one? >> public comment hearing none i'll call for the vote. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? i's have it so that motion carries we have announcements any announcements? >> thank you. >> it is actually a question i thought maybe the contract staff might know on the other add back we've been waiting to hear is the community services they also received an ad back we were wondering can we have any information about timing on this one? >> this is public comment not - >> eelena i'm working on the ad back funding planning to present to commission no november we're accounting all the fuentes 22 agencies involved and $1.5 million plus in add back fund amongst the 22 agencies for 5 hundred thoughts and one million dollars so going to finalize the budget tomorrow and meeting and presented in november. >> okay. thank you. >> uh-huh. >> any others announcements announcements public comment? >> any public comment hearing none can i have a motion to adjourn. >> so moved and second. >> thank you it is approved we're adjourned@púx >> all right. ladies and gentlemen, good morning the meeting will come to order the third-degree tomato supervisor wiener the vice chair and to my left it supervisor jane kim your clerk victor young thank you to jim smith and leo from sfgovtv for their broadcasting this meeting mr. clerk, any announcements? >> yes. completed speaker cards and documents to be included should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the pocket 20th 2015 board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> all right. thank you v

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