june 7 meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission by name is brian tan. a few housekeeping items did turn off your cell phones and keep them on vibrate. if you're here from the public and like to speak when i call for public comment we have other common speaker cards which can fill out they had to our staff. come up when i do call that. finally, thank you to sfgtv and media service for airing this meeting live to the public. also, happy election day. i hope everyone is voting today. you have not yet, go do it. let's start with a roll call. >> >>[call of the roll] lee, here. treasures of, here. jen thomas, here. cohen minimum we have a quorum. commissioner frost said he would be 15-20 min. late. and we've not heard from [inaudible]. >> all right. we have a quorum. the first item on our agenda is general public comments. this is for any business that pertains to the entertainment commission that's not currently on the agenda. a public comment? public comment is closed. item number two, approval of the meeting minutes. i believe we will rightfully continue this item >> i move to continue the minutes to our next meeting >> moved and seconded. >> the approval of the minutes of the next meeting at second. any public comment? commissioner lee seconded. let's of those. >>[roll call vote]. >> item 3 is a report from executive director and our inspectors. i will hand it over to director kane >> thank you good evening. i will make it short. i'm a little bit [inaudible] i was off for the last three weeks. one of the things i want to report on is one of the reasons i went which is to attend this thing called music city conference. it was put on by group by sound diplomacy, which in a nutshell is bringing together people from all over the world to do work in the nighttime economy in many cases in other countries focus on live music and music industry as opposed to you know, being an inclusive of other kinds of entertainment, but by and large, they were very interested in-and i was able to spend some time talking about our chapter 116 work which is unique in the states. they do it in berlin and they are certainly looking at it in london very closely and hopefully, now a lot of other places.. lots of folks from australia, canada, other obviously english-speaking countries, there were people from all over the world, and i think it went really well. it was very exciting and him and contacting out with people that i never thought i would meet. people from classic officials from all over the place. it was really interesting. so, i hope to be doing more about and then maybe we will be able to bring some folks here from other countries to talk about how they do the work they do. we are, again as we've said in the past, i had in some ways of most folks in terms of nighttime county management. from the standpoint of the government involvement and really having sort of a solid base to protect and enliven nightlife. however, it does come from a regulatory sort of side of things and we have some stuff we can do better , i think, sort of on the promotion side and the protection of creative industries and protective of targeted jobs. so, hopefully i'll be bringing forward some new things are you to chew on. then, while i was gone, maggie was able to convene the panel to finally do interviews for the eight 1823 position on outdoor events that haven't talked about forever. they did those interviews and there is an offer being extended or conditional offer at this point, based on background checks and fingerprints to the person who scored the highest, and so i can't at this point who say who that is, but it is-we are almost there. so, the pool was a really good sort of applicants so i think we found a good fit. >> you think bill be here by next meeting? two weeks? >> no. >> a month? >> probably. >> okay good that's great >> yes. there's a lot of work to do and will be off and running. so unless you have any questions for me- >> take me >> can we all go? >> i will hand it over to mr. polly. >> i will start it up your good evening, commissioners. report about inspections first. i want to correct the date. the first item and union st., festival it says 514. that was a typo. june 4 it was there around 5 pm. i was there for a couple hours in the area observing the surrounding area the side avenues, checking for [inaudible] this sort of thing. huge police presence. in the alleys and side streets. a lot of venues on fillmore street seen a bump in early activity, 6-7 8 pm. the [inaudible] was for street wwe did not receive any complaints so all went well. on 520, may 20, the second item it says 5-2. i forgot to put the zero. this was at 3:30 pm. we talked about this at last meeting can an issue regarding the noise alley ministry at 1021 sanchez st. i made contact with the church on or before the show took place that we talked about and i talk to her about it looking like what they were doing was entertainment. i told her she needed to contact our deputy director and talk to her to she ended up doing a leader in the week. i'm not sure how it played out in the end, nevertheless, i went by after 5 pm after the event started to see if there was any sound issues for the complaint and i did not notice anything. it was not imperceptible. nevertheless i told her because we don't permit the venue, i didn't-i'll be taking on a hands-off approach and waiting for direction from staff. so will see how that goes. i'm sure not sure how that's going to play out. on the 19th, this was at 620, i stop by mission cultural center to do an inspection. i talked to-that the operations manager i talked permit they do not have a permit post. they posted it in from inside the information booth. they can you schedule of events and just explain to them some of things. i been there a couple times so it was an interesting place to kind of stop i i was just checking on it. i left this item off last meeting on by accident but because dollhouse, 315 916 straight last year they were subject to an abc action regarding an employee peddling marijuana and me and sean went by with al al view and talk to my brother. nevertheless, that was a good idea to stop in. then check in on what's going on could honestly, they have mechanical moving devices there like 5-6 pinball machines in the front of the venue. i talked to their bartender just asked about any underage drinking or gambling or anything. stuff like that. but it looks fine. there every thing is in compliance with a couple of 1:20 am. i deserve the sidewalks in the management the audrey and john adult with him before. so, it's been a while since we instructed him to move their line and manage their sound better and then not received any complaints and on this particular night they were in compliance. i took a quick look at elbow room. i was in the area. i pass by a bunch of venues. i just pick out elbow room. i observe the exterior environment of the venue. it was busy but patrons were moving the sidewalks were not too cluttered. so it was fun. fine. on 21 may, at the end of the night operation, for [inaudible] there sidewalks looked a little cluttered. if i was-i could've the world am a notice of violation but it wasn't really that serious because it just look like they're end of the night. there were no complaints but nevertheless going to stop i do a follow-up inspection i scheduled for this weekend. a couple complaints. one of them is a complaint with the dealing with for a while. this is blatant and 1351 folk st. over the last few weeks i have observed the avenue in the sound environment and what my determination is is that it's collective sound, first of all. not just that venue. that avenue is busy with venues. nevertheless, after talking to inspector burke he states that he can clearly hear the base over everything else. so, the next step is to do in the end tests and compliance testing whenever i'm out there and they request testing. so we'll see how that plays out. the last item is a complaint in regards to club mala. they got a couple complaints. there really hasn't been many complaints in a while, but it got a couple in the last few weeks. this one was saturday at 11 pm. i was able to go by almost immediately within a half hour-45 min. i stopped out on virginia avenue about 20 feet from the property to see if i could hear anything. i could hear a little on mission street but nothing that would be out of line for the kind of thing they do. but, even though it's particularly quite on the street and neighborhood, it gets a lot quieter in the residencies and the so i'm sure the neighbors are expensive and something. so, i scheduled to do some interior noise testing with them and we'll see how that goes. i'll report back to you any questions? >> i have one for noise alley ministry. were we not tipped off by someone about that? >> yes. >> did you contact them about just following up about your inspection? >> i was in contact with them. this particular neighbor was a little on the aggressive side. i like to wait until i develop some kind of information before going back and forth because it ends up being just a bunch of stuff being thrown against the wall. you know what i mean? >> sure >> idle her complaint was valid or not so the first thing was to make contact 01 to give the venue to the opportunity to defend himself and discuss the results will discuss the matter with our deputy director >> i see. okay, that's fine. any questions for inspector burke? i'm sorry, polly. the record should show actually commissioner jan caminong and commissioner frost re:. >> the reason you are hearing this [inaudible] more mundane visits is because they switched areas so i have not done that before. but i did it because i felt like there was in importance and not getting too comfortable. so jordan's visiting venues that sean is very familiar with and different eyes and different experiences i think is been a be a better system to make sure that everyone doesn't get too complacent were too close to these guys at a comfort level around, you know, how they work and what they do. they're very different operators, these two. i think that is a good thing. so he's can go to malibu totally different than he will now sean is going to go to the nightclubs [inaudible] >> we caught that when you -either that was great because we had heard about venues we not heard of about reported inspector polly, director kane and good evening president >> good evening. a couple new complaints. one for the grand -lounge on geary right round abuelo. this is a establishment that had applied for a permit when ms. can meet locks on what was with us and something held it up, a be something along the lines of their abc permit. we did get a complaint recently about what sounds like midi karaoke going on at towards the end of their hours. i have been unable to witness that and i'm in touch with the complainant. the complainant has my mobile number or try to work out communication i know susie able to report to me when when he hears sound coming from-. i'll keep you posted on that. we have received a complaint from the hampton inn, fairly new hotel across the street from mezzanine. on jefferson street. upon some conversation with the assistant manager there, i learned that you seven complaining for some time. this is first time that lodged a formal complaint.. everybody was in the organization thought each other were filing complaints so this is the first time we've heard of it. i've been on site for taking measurements in a guest room there and i've spoken with the owner at mezzanine. we are waiting to get some information about some conversations that happened between the previous owner of mezzanine and the developer of a hotel to see kind of how some conversations went down in planning the construction. i hope to have some more information for you by next meeting. >> are they complaining about music were people in the streets are what? >> on the lower floors there something to picture noise but the upper floors are just base and it's only on the jesse side. i was told that the mission site is double pained and the jesse side is not. the jesse side >> which makes perfect sense because the jesse side is a nightclub in the mission side doesn't. how ridiculous. >> there's also that. mounted air conditioning units on the jesse side, so there's the free flow of sound waves coming through. >> chapter 116, doesn't include hotels, right just residential? >> this is correct. i confirm this and i've made an inquiry as to the possibility of amending chapter 116 to include hotels because there has been in the news regarding a possible creation of what are called [inaudible]. but i may or may not be able to get that done in time. we will see. >> thanks. they should be in a just similar. >> i'll keep you updated as i get more info. >> is the picture noise on the jesse side coming through the windows? going through that door work into the building? as they are choosing to put-to do like accept patrons on the jesse side and not the mission side, which is actually the front about oh is the mission side, right? >> poseurs, so the jesse side doors are manned with a hotel representative. the mission side is locked. you can access both ways. both of double sliding doors. >> so let me get this straight. the main entrance about tell is on jesse side, which is the side that does not have a double pane windows and is across the street from a nightclub? >> from the layout of the building, i would say, yes >> so, the mission street side which is not near anything has double pained windows and is not the main entrance of the building? >> from what i could tell, set yes >> that makes perfect sense. >> little tally narrow street >> a couple of inspections. the chamber of the restaurant at the phoenix hotel had a couple of outdoor amplified events for memorial day. we have a resident off hold, i think i mentioned previously, that has graciously allowed me entrance to his residence. i've taken in the and measurements so i can compare those to he's disturbed at this point we get a good ambient measurement. i was able to get access and take a measurement their weekend as well during entertainment i'm a but that particular weekend wasn't as loud as previous as he had mentioned. so, he's going to be in touch next time there's an event and will see if we can get a good beating analyzing frequencies and see if there something we can do to contain the chamber sound. >> i noticed they been promoting a lot more events by their pool. >> i think is the season swings there's going to be >> more than in past years >> they definitely capitalize on holidays and-as well summer as well, two. >> is this complaint is the same complaint and that has been complaining? is this a big building a multiunit building? >> correct. on polled. the first physical unit overhangs, and on one side and the chamber is slightly visible from another window on the property. so he's getting sound from chambers a little bit of people noise, some base, and then actually some noise from fixed mechanical on top of brenda's so i put him in touch with the department of health as well to address that. multiagency investigation. >> i see. thank you. >> quick update about this year's con of all. very smooth. everything was on time. i was on site both days and in touch with organizers. we were able to provide a schedule ahead of time and i was able to check-in multiple times throughout the day both saturday and sunday. no complaints that i came to [inaudible] directly to us. all in all the was a big success. susan sarandon's ping-pong nightclub was brought to our attention. 690 fulsome st. we were made aware of some dj even said that. i was able to stop by and talk to the manager and now were in the process of getting him permitted. this past weekend, early sunday morning, at the end up there was an incident with a firearm. i paid a visit on sunday evening to talk to security and management of the end up. we sat down for about an hour interviewed 630 footage, talked about what happened. they met with the sfpd today and we are meeting scheduled for thursday at 11 am with staff in the office to discuss the incident and what should we be doing during to move four. forward. >> with that inside or outside? >> at this point we do not know. >> some of those lease reports are not public record depending on the outcome. >> can you- >> i said some police reports are not a matter of public record, depending on the outcome of the incident. >> i reach out to the permit officer today and at that point even he did not have any kind of incident report or narrative because i think the investigation is still pending. >> forced and social clubs does that mean they're not really open what does that mean? >> they are open with ping-pong at the night that i visited her mother was a dj. now they're in the process of starting. >> so we will see them soon? >> yes >> grades. great. sounds like relatively quiet given how bad it could be. any questions from commissioners? public comment? public comment is closed >>[gavel] >> will move on with our meeting to item number four police department comments and questions. i don't see any least upon representatives tonight so we'll just will bring along to item number five. hearing and possible action regarding permits. we have two tonight and i'll handed over to a deputy director. >> great. good evening, commissioners. others permit application it this evening is for women in live performance, it is for a limited beer basement located at 222 highest rate in the former space of the basement. new owner, steve smith owns the special specialty beer store and ills unlimited in pacific heights. he plans on expanding this business model that is new premises so is actually did have for entertainment stand up comedy, open mic night, live jazz, and all can be in a craft beer focused bar. he hopes to be able to of flexibility and when he does an arm but always and by 10 pm. i haven't received any opposition about the permit application. we approve it with a good neighbor policy. the only condition. here to tell you more about his application is owner, steve smith. >> good evening. yes, we just picked up the basement and we change it as a site location from our facility in pacific heights. we only have retail and stability to do like a surf the draft and the limited products we have. there used to be a stand up comedy before at that location, and open mic and initially we did not have this as a anything under plan, but when he approached us a few times we said, okay why not. we could use the momentum and get the what they already had to i think was every thursday they had stand up-not open mic and every saturday they had for two hours they do standup comedy and so we met with the department to ask if we can apply for that license. >> are usurping any hard alkyl or is it just.? >> just beer and wine. we didn't want to do hard alkyl because that's not our focus. we did it for eight years on. at least a location with hard alkyl but the more premium single malts. we don't do anything in the mixed [inaudible] actually our focus is more in the upper end of the spectrum of the products. so a different kind of overly different kind of [inaudible] then used to be >> are you familiar with the history of the basement and the neighbors around? >> yes. i just had a few times met with sam. she's with [inaudible] >> great >> i spoke with her this afternoon actually. she had to pull the kids outside to get everybody alerts. she was happy that we moved in because apparently it was some complaint here and there from the previous owners. we picked everything out what they had in their swap the noise complaints there before i got there anymore because we actually don't have anything existing what they had in the. that got pulled out. i reach out to some of the other stores around [inaudible] quite as the neighborhood. everybody so far was okay with that we moved in, yes. >> great. i think-main complaints of our previous permit holder and so i think if you are if you're spoken with them and actually change the equipment >> i spoke with sammy before-five times. i walked around just to get familiar with the area. i ran into actually she wants to come down tonight but because the whole voting idea she said she may not but in case you need some kind of letter she would be glad to write something up if it's required. but she was really forthcoming and we met the first time i think was one we still were doing renovations. she was very happy that we moved a lot of the equipment out. >> great. commissioner caminong >> are you open until midnight? >> were open tuesday, wednesday thursday currently from 4 pm-10 pm and then friday and saturday we are open 4 pm-until midnight. that's just because the neighborhood we want to engage first what customer base were going to get but we did not have the intention to stay very long unless somebody asks us if we could stay a bit longer. we had some increase for opening mondays, which we did have in the plan before. somebody wants to watch the wwf on monday nights. we thought would be a cool hangout spot for three hours so will look into that. so we don't open long. we don't do the same thing in pacific heights. we close at 8 pm and pacific heights. we try to be early down. not saving up at night >> you are aware the permit you're asking for is only until 10 pm? >> yes that's fine. i think the standup was from 6 pm until 8 pm or something like that. they didn't do it long. it's always 10 pm would be the idea. he used to be a green room for the [inaudible] so the will be mays be some people would like to play jazz and obviously they would like to go until 10 pm or something like that for the life