Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20171222

Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20171222



is miss linda wong. the committee would also like to acknowledge the staff of sfgtv, jesse larson and i cannot read it. we record each of our meetings and make the transcripts available online madam clerk any announcements. >> silence cellphones and electronic devices and completed speaker cards to be included as part of the file to be submitted to the clerk, thank you. >> before we begin can we have a motion to excuse supervisor ma leah cohen and katie katy tang from this meeting. >> motion passes. >> no object object. >> madam clerk can you call item number one. >> clerk: declaring a homeless shelter emergency and authorize ing the direct offer public work to improve facilities and the director of the department of homelessness and support of housing to contract for homeless services and officer services to protect the health, safety and welfare of individuals effected by homelessness and all san francisco citizens. >> we have jeff kazski department of homelessness and department of public works here to present. >> good afternoon, supervisors, jeff, director of the department of homelessness and supportive housing. i want to share some information with you regarding why we believe san francisco is currently experiencing a shelter emergency and homelessness crisis. i don't think that we have to walk very far and look out doors to see living on our streets suffering and without access to basic hygiene needs and at this time, we saw that 7,499 people were experiencing homelessness on any given night and i think it's also important to note in any given and there's 25,000 people unique individuals who experience homelessness in san francisco and we have a very high percentage of the homeless population in our city 58% that are unsheltered living on our streets and 4,000 people on any given night that are sleeping out of doors. thirty-two% of that population is over the age of 51 and 40% having drug or addiction disorders. you will see that there has been where we've had some good successes overtime, we've seen an increase in the number of young people experiencing homelessness and relative to the homeless population and also an increase in the number of people who are over 61 years of age senior citizens who are experiencing homelessness and again, approximately 58% of un sheltered. being unsheltered causes a whole variety of health-related issues some of which are very obvious not having a place to go to the bathroom to cook food, to take a shower and they're recently in southern california has been an outbreak of hepatitis a which has led to hospitalization and deaths many in the city of san diego and the problem has spread to santa cruz and los angeles and in san francisco, we have been able to do a lot of vaccinations and take other measures to keep that outbreak from happening but none the less the acts of showers to shelter and housing is making us a risk for hepatitis a and other out breaks. we have seen and i'm sure this is again you all are familiar with this issue and receive many of the complaints that i do there's been an increase in the number of complaints related to unsheltered homelessness and you will see here just the very large increase in 311 calls related to this issue between 2015 and 2017 and you will also see where as we have invested a fair amount in our homelessness response system we have over 2,000 beds of temporary shelter available, mainly 1,389 shelter beds for adults and transition- age youth. we still have a waiting list of over 1,000 people on any given night currently in need of shelter. as such, the mayor has announced his challenge to get a thousand additional people off the streets this winter that will require the expansion of our shelter system to meet the demands that currently exists helping cut the time it takes for us to bring shelters and other fail facilities online by four to six months and it will sunset in february february 15te looking at right now specifically this resolution to help move forward projects that are going to bring shelter and navigation centers quickly online and at this point we'll turn it over to edgar lopez that will talk to the specifics of the resolution. >> good afternoon exercise, edgar lopez with public works as jeff mentioned the resolution before you would enable public works to implement fast deployment of shelters by allowing us to cut it takes to pre cure construction contracts for us to order trailers, tents, and bring in site utilities to bring in water and power and sewer and able to cut period time it takes by at least a third and i would be happy to answer specific questions that you may have. >> i see no questions and we have a b. l.a. report. >> good afternoon chair yee and analist office yes as we talk about on page four of our report , for the emergency declaration for 440 turning street the estimated cost of the is 7.8 million in renovations and legislation calendered for wednesday december 13th budget and it would approve the funding for this project and there are more details presented to that committee and for the emergency shelters mr. lopez i think comments on the two sights looked at right now that are one at fifth and bryant and one on 13th street that are under the jurisdiction of cal trans and our public works is working on the actual defining the project scope and that the department of homelessness will return in january to the board of january 2018 on the estimates for these projects and the code itself defines an emergency is a sudden unforeseeable and unexpected occurrence which isn't the case with these two emergency declarations however they have discretion under the administrative code to declare an emergency and i will want to say and i don't believe it was mentioned in the presentations, it's a question has come up about the open-endedness of the emergency declaration for homeless shelters and my understanding is that the department would -- >> what they did? >> didn't catch that they did introduce a amendment to the legislation to sunset on february 15th. and we do consider it to be a policy matter for the board. >> thank you for your report. so i don't see the amendments in here. where are the amendments? does anybody have a copy or is someone -- >> that the only thing being requested to be amended? just for records for those that may not have caught it, this is a further amended in to work being asked to be amended and that says the resolution sunset at the time that the permanent emergency ordinance is enacted or on february 15th, 2018 which ever comes first. any other questions? >> i have a question to our city attorney. city attorney mr. gibner, so this is a resolution effecting the add min code but not amending the addmin code? >> that's right. this section of the administrative code authorizes the board of supervisor to declare an emergency by resolution and authorized emergency work in response to that emergency and the amendment that you have before you indicates that the board may be adopted -- may adopt an ordinance, it wouldn't technically be an emergency ordinance which say special category under the charter but adopt an ordinance amending the administrative code or exemption s to the administrative code and it would be broader you could wave different competitive bidding processes by ordinance than by resolution. >> so this is not an addment to the code it is accessing that section of the add men code. >> that's right. >> that was it? >> ok. >> any public comments on this item? come on up. you have two whole minutes. >> jim san francisco chamber of commerce i want to thank the mayor and supervisor ronen and we urge them to vote this out unanimous will he and this is something we've worked with the city and various business organizations for some time believe it's absolutely necessary unfortunately not just necessary here but probably necessary at this level of the state of california but the state has 20% of the homeless population of america supposedly and if we had had a major natural catastrophe or disaster, we would find ways of housing people that are living on the street if it was anybody in this room who was living on the street because an earthquake, there would be emergency housing for us and this will allow your department to move more aggressively and more quickly and perhaps we can urge the state of captain to do the same thing because we're not going to solve this problem in san francisco and we would be trying for decades and we've been doing better jobs for communities but it's a long way to go and the state of california so i thank you on behalf of the business community the authors of this support and urge support and surgery san francisco to look more towards sacramento and figure out what would do with this state-wide crisis, thank you very much. >> thank you. any other public comments on this item? come on up. if there are other public comments just come on up and lineup over here to your right. to your right and my left. good afternoon i'm director of programming and ucs managing two shelters sick for single adults with 534 beds and two of the navigation centers and we're just here to support the resolution if it's passing and encouraged the board of supervisors to pass it and we believe that there is need occupancy is don cyst enter lehigh and bad weather is coming so we urge and ask that you consider and pass. thank you. >> hi, good afternoon, my name is holly and i work with the community services and currently i am the program manager of the entry pilot for the city of san francisco and so just to talk about housing homeless people experiencing homelessness in the city and the benefit of them having permanent and benefit them having a place to stay and being stabilized and we see a lot of clients that are coming out of homeless encampments on the streets and we lose about one out of five clients that are high needs and are staying outside and have no permanent place to stay or no temporary place to stay and so we definitely, when clients were able to stabilize them in shelter or navigation center we see there's a higher percentage of success with housing those clients and that those clients are able to better access case management services in terms of getting documents in it for housing and just in general having a place to stay every night and being able to make appointments on time so thank you. >> good afternoon i'm john warn er the support service mange with the a and i'm speaking in support of the resolution and we're getting clients coming out of the encampment situations and a lot of clients were able to work with as far as getting them immunizations for hepatitis a and b and we're also starting to work with them as far as hepatitis c a lot of the clients coming out of the encampment situations with i.v. drug use have suffered from help c and we're trying to get them in to treatment for that as well with clients coming in to navigation centers we're able to work with them as far as growth them on to opioid replacement therapies for them and other forms of treatment they might not have gotten and as well a lot of the residents might be hesitant to come in to standard shelter situations and they're getting them in to the navigation centers we're able to talk to them about getting in and more formal shelter system and as well a lot of clients coming in have difficultys holding on to maintaining items such as documentation with housing from us being able to hold on to them and help them with documentation as well as getting them to other appointments but they might not have been able to get to. thank you s. >> thank you. >> my name is dennis mccrae. and i also would like to offer my support for the resolution. we do see the evidence that more shelter beds are needed as well as housing, every night we turn people away from our shelters and they come through maybe sometimes midnight, 1:00 in the morning, we don't have the spaces for them and one of the things that is really, really critical about the expansion of shelters is that it goes a long way to helping preserve life and mr. kazinski spoke about the hepatitis vaccines and most of the work is done at the shelters and it's a hub where people get information and it's a hub where people get health assistance and so many of those people who were vaccinated for the hepatitis as well as this season's flu, those things happen at a lot of the shelter sites so the expenseing of shelter beds is really crucial. thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon my name is shy walldrudge i'm we run largest single adult homeless shelter on fifth and bryant and we have the only 24 hour drop-in center which this resolution would definitely help is that we constantly have lines and we are at capacity every night and even with the bad weather we appreciate additional help and support with additional beds or navigation centers or tents and anything to keep our clients off the streets. thank you. >> thank you. >> any other public comments on this item? seeing none, public comments now closed. mr. kazisi, question, you mentioned it's a go for this year or this winter to open up another thousand beds for temporary shelters and the two you name is about 238. are we counting those places where some of the changes that opened up it during the winter as part of the thousand or are you thinking that we're going to get a few more new places that's never done it before and just build on? >> this is going to be a combination of efforts including opening up new navigation centers, expanding the wilt shelter program and those navigation centers will be open for years not just the winter. but expanding the winter shelter program to get more individuals off the streets and we're looking at expanding our master lease housing program as well as block leasing housing and our re housing programs so this is a multi faceted approach in order to get 1,000 people off the streets as quickly as possible. >> and then, in a typical, well, with these two examples for instance, in a typical winter, in a year how much do we actually ramp up in regards to again, i guess churches that volunteer to open their doors up in the winter. >> yes, so the winter shelter program traditionally moves from church to church during the winter and it houses 70 people and during each night and people can stay for seven nights and they can reup their stays if they like to but when we know there's going to be two or three days of severe rainfall we expand and essentially are putting mats on the floors ex and panneding the capacity in of two our larger shelters to serve 50 to 100 people on those nights >> ok. >> thank you, very much. >> any questions? >> mr. sheehy. comments. >> yeah, i just wanted to thank mayor lee and the department of housing and the support housing and homelessness and department of public works for their leadership and their commitment to bringing a thousand people off the streets this winter and i'm honored to cohon or this legislation and we won't house everyone this winter if we don't move quickly so it's an important tool to ensure the department of homelessness and supportive housing and in nitric which includes the mission beer seeing people on the street and the department of homelessness and many others is limited by the lack of places for people to go and and invest in the city and programs our communities need and i am a co sponsor bays the board should declare shelter emergency and call it what it is and solve it so i'd like to move this, we may have to amend this first. so should we -- >> make a motion to amend. >> any objection. >> i would like to move it as committee report. >> as amended. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> um, is it ok if i call department head up front. >> before we discussion. >> mr. kazinski. so you said there's a need of about 1,000 shelter beds and imperativeness is shaved off about four to six months in the process to bring these online. what do you think realistically we're looking at in terms of how long it will take to get to 1,000? >> to be able to get a thousand people off the streets well the goal is -- >> essentially talking about shelter beds and navigation centers? >> we're talking about shelter beds and navigation centers and additional rapid housing and permanent housing as well so it's a combination of interventions as well as expanding the winter shelter system and our goal is to make that happen by march 21st and the end of the winter if we're not able to achieve that goal we should be able to soon there after we're pursueing a wide variety of sights and programs to achieve this goal. >> and you said it says in here 58% of the homeless population about 40 4:00 400 people were un sheltered and what you are thinking in terms long-term, longer term solutions passes a thousand in terms of the number of shelter beds needed in the city. >> we clearly need shelter breeds but we need tokes panned the shelter system at the same time we're expanding to housing because creating a shelter is essentially not providing exits for people in those shelters means when those beds get filled up people aren't going to flow through the system so our approach has been multifaceted for example we're experimenting at 1515 south and the new navigation center with temporary housing subsidiaries for individuals who are in that navigation center and are working or looking for work that can get in to the housing market on their own but might need existence and expanding the homeward mound to connect people to friends and family members and other communities and we're expanding permanent supporting housing and new units of permanent housing adults and families experiencing homelessness and opening up during the next five years. >> was there a time period in san francisco's history that we had a larger number of shelter beds is this pretty much constant the number that we have now have we shrunk that number, is that the appropriate number for san francisco? >> they have been growing overtime if you combined navigation centers stabilization units, conventional shelters and family shelters and they've been transitional housing have been expanding slowly over the time for the past ten years the only shelter that was closed and i could be wrong and i believe there was a shelter at mission rock which was a large shelter open temporarily during el nino that was shut down and other than that the system has been expanding and i think we need to continue expanding that along with expanding resource centers and recognizing that while there's people on the streets we need to both meet individuals, meet to try to address on long-term goal getting people out of homelessness in to housing and we need to continue expanding the system to meet the needs of the people on the street and the mayor's vision and it talks about balancing those two things in order to again deal with people's immediate needs but not have them get stuck in to shelter when they're not able to find exits and their homelessness. >> you didn't say much about 440 turning street but it's your new office? >> that's correctioner i believe it's the next item on the agenda >> got it. no more questions on this item. >> i just would like to say that number one, they could always do better by also want to commend our city's effort as you look at the stats throughout the state that every year it's gotten worse. we pretty much remain stable which is really a statement to our efforts and hopefully we'll in the future years actually reduce that number before we take a vote on this item i'd like to add my name as a co sponsors is that ok? so there's been a motion. >> me too. >> add my name as well. please. >> i guess if everybody's name on there the motion passes. [laughter] >> madam, item number 2. >> item number 2 resolution declaring an emergency and authorizeing the direct offer public works to construct an access point to front door services, case management and mental health counseling to individual effected by homelessness at the department of homelessness and support of housing property 440turk street. >> ok, we have director kzinski for department of homelessness and edgar lopez to present on this item. >> good afternoon, tempt of homelessness and support i have housing to discuss the emergency declaration related to the property of 440turke street and we'd like to talk first of all about the proposed use of the site at 440 turk street and it will be the head quarters of the department of homelessness and supportive housing and office space for 105h.s.h. staff which is not all but the majority of our staff and thank you so some excellent design work by public works and we've been able to design the site to accommodate everybody we need to and we'll be active monday through friday 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. roughly and as the first floor to make this in to a resource center primarily a services focus site and after getting feedback from the community that we have changed how we're going to use the facility and again it will be primarily our main offices however there's an access point on the first floor of the building and meaning anybody who is experiencing homelessness and that wants to get in to our data system and wants to get assessed and enter inside to our coordinated entry system that will direct people towards shelter housing and services will come in and make an appointment and speak with a case manager on site. also, on the first floor as many of you know, h.s.h. runs the homeward bound program which helps people get reconnected to family and friends and other communities and we have eight or nine staff in that program where they will be officeed on the first floor so we will have clients coming in to the site and we have seats for about 30 to 40 people which is maybe a little bit more than we need but we want to make sure people aren't loitering out in front of the building and again the site will be open 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. we have not decided definitely but we'll likely also be open on saturday and sunday so we can still provide people access to our coordinated entry system and this is not going to be a resource center or a drop- in center where people can come in and hangout for a few hours and get food it's a place where come in and get services and that is our available on the site and leave and i believe that any office that is run by the department of homelessness and support i have housing needs to be welcome and to people that are experiencing homelessness and we will try to create that environment at our head quarters and as you know the site was currently built in 1984 and it was a housing authority report and it has 25,500 square feet on two floors with the basements and an elevator and it's attached to 430 turk street and it was a residential apartment building owned by a tndc so we will be in a office condominium because the building is one been it was approved by the board of supervisors and hud at a cost of $5 million. currently it has many shared building systems and the building of 430 turk with four stair heating and windows and no central air and it is a fairly open floor plan with design challenges with public works has done some great work and there's a lot of columns and walls that we cannot remove and this is a design of the first floor and the shaded-in area on the weren't side is part of the residential building and you will see primarily in the front there are offices for the homeward bound team in that middle area there's some storage and places for homeless folks to sit and we also on site will have restaurant reand shower facilities and this isn't a drop in center and everyone can use them and homeward bound clients getting connected to a family members or friends in other places and need to go on a plane or a bus to get home and they need to greyhound has certain requirements around hygiene and need to make sure people get cleaned up and get their clothes cleaned and they'll be able to do that at this site and we may have other clients who come in crisis get ak stows services if they need to get a shower while they're waiting with the social workers and you know, we'll assess that on a case by case bases but want it to be available for people coming in want to go get on a list for shelter and housing and need access to hygiene services. second floor is primarily all offices i believe about 95 people will be officeed on of our staff will be officeed on the second floor the majority our staff and remaining ten staff will be down on the first floor. variety of upgrades need to be made to the building and removing interior partisans to create a new layout and ceiling system and pluming upgrades and lighting upgrades and adc upgrades and adding an nhvc system. as you know, this is been discussed quite a bit this summer and we originally held two large community meetings in the tender loin neighborhood and heard a lot of concerns from neighbors about opening up another services facility in the site and we were looking for this to be 120-seat resource center with a lot of showers and laundry facilities and bathrooms on sites and neighbors felt like it wasn't an appropriate use of this facility on this particular block and there's a lot of concerns about security and we came up with a different design which we've presented to you today which has been presented out to the community as well and we had a business roundtable meeting, several meetings with community leaders including the c.b.d., the alliance for better ter der loin service providers and neighborhood and i would say there's not 100% you know union nam tee on how the building should be used it people felt like it should be a resource center and some people felt like it should only be offices and not see clients and we think we've come up with is a compromised on something that does a little bit of both mostly serving as our head quarters and also being a welcoming place for people coming in to our services at the end of department mayor lee met with a number community leaders and business groups and present inside plan to them and explaining this was going to be used as an access center not as -- an assets point not a research center and there was general agreement in the room with the one caveat there was a high level of expectations with security around the site and we have security around the building to make sure things remain calm in the lobby as well as security on the outside of the building to make sure that the block remains safe and to contribute to other efforts that are happening in the tender loin to improve security there. >> and lastly just walking through the budget, the cost of project is $12.9 million with $5 million for the purchase and the remainder for the rehab coming from three different sources, the 2016 general obligation bond and the first issueance picking up $5 million and 2.22 million in future obligation bonds and 5.8 from the general fund which includes all of the ffnes and it was reallocated from the original proposal that we had submitted to the board of supervisorers to lease the space at a ninth street for offices. ok, and then what we're asking today is an emergency declaration that will allow public works to expedite the rehab and code section 6.60a and the passage of this resolution on december 12th, public works expects to be able to complete the rehab and you know we're currently spread in multiple office locations and some of which we are using at the -- we're squatting from insights that are controlled by other departments and this is been a challenge in terms of how we coordinate together and how we work as a as well as having the i.t. and other infrastructures we need to operate ace single department and so we are hoping that this site will get opened as soon as possible and also i want to say more importantly, this we need the site opened because we need to get moving with our entry system that we have put in to play and one of the issues around homelessness in san francisco and why mayor lee created the department was to create a more coordinated approach to how we address homelessness to get people quickly in to our programs and help them resolve their homelessness and we need to get this access point so that people can get access and entry system and get services as possible this is a key comb phone ant of our strategic framework without the emergency declaration the opening will be delayed by at least six months s so that's the presentation, i don't know if public works has anything to add ? thank you. >> i have a few questions i want to ask, first of all, can you explain, you have a concept of access point so basically do we have anything like that that exists is this just a new concept for you? >> this is a new concept in the concept of coordinated entry is new for the city and the slide where you see the picture of coordinated entry a few slides back when it's up on the screen, you will see it map of how it works and we're going through this process or population by population and we've already opened up two access points for homeless families and one is in the bay view and the other is in the central market area and then we are going to be issuing an r.f.p. and we will open up additional access points for adults and then for youth as we continue the implementation of our strategic framework. >> and in regards to this vision version of the build on versus the resource center what's the difference? the access point and the resource center? >> resource or a drop-in center is a place and we have a number of them around the city where people can come in and they can sit down and gate sandwich and get off of the streets for a few hours and take a shower and do the restaurant laundry and sometimes there's case management there and sometimes there's not and it's essentially a place like a day shelter is another term that people use to describe these and that is not what we're proposing. >> in regards to the funding break down of the renovations, i guess, you showed some numbers earlier and can you flash it back up there. starting with that 5 million on top. there we go. um -- so what part of the budget is going towards renovating the office space versus the supportive services space or the access space. >> a third of the funds are being used to support the clients serving parts of the building which is not just the access point it's also we have homeward bound staff on site as well as other staff who directly serve clients getting them access and the first will be more client facing. >> i'm trying to get a handle and wrap myself around this concept that is this is an emergency. mainly because in my mind, the original version of this was to build out as office space so what makes this an emergency again? >> i believe homelessness in san francisco in its self emergency with 7500 people on any given night 20,000 people year experience homelessness and as we drive to reduce those numbers and get people access to services and they're in their homelessness we need to have access points in this city so that we can better use and expand our existing programs so having our homeward bound staff on site with access to showers for people who need to get on the bus and make it more efficient and make it possible for us to serve even more people and that particular program and having access points coordinated entry councillors on site are going to speed up people's access to permanent supporter but just importantly it's going to let people know who are not qualified for permanent supportive housing what services are available to them so we can keep people from waiting on our streets hoping they'll get in to housing and rapid rehousing and other programs to get people off of our streets and back indoors. >> so, you identify or name two access points locations are you saying right now those two locations have people lined up around the block or something needed to get in. what is your emergency here? >> those two sites are serving families and they're not serving the single adult population we have not yet opened up access points for single adults. >> ok. >> um, any questions? >> i just wanted to know, i know you talked about this and your community out reach program was for this and it came up again and last summer and spring i just wanted to hear what process you went through in terms of moving forward on your revised plan. >> i'm going to ask by my colleague emily cohen who managed this process to speak to this. >> great. thank you. >> thank you supervisors emily cohen with homelessness and supportive housing and we believed this community out reach programs and we held two large community meetings with tender loin stakeholders with residents and local businesses and service providers in the neighborhood and we heard really mixed input about how what people saw and what they wanted and we heard some concerns about the passage on the sidewalk and front if you spent time at turke and hide that corner needs attention and folks were very concerned about what was happening on that block and we engage in these conversations with the community we convened a working group of enabled leaders and we did a lot of talking about the concerns and the concerns that surfaced for the neighborhood that we heard very clearly they did not want this site to be 24/7 and they did not want people coming in from ousted tenderloin or being brought in from outside the tenderloin use services so we took that to heart and scaled back what we planned for that and we know that any head quarters for the department of homelessness needs to be accessible to folks experiencing homelessness but we wanted to listen and be respectful of the community and scale back the resource center from there we continue to hold meet meetings and i ran ten meetings throughout the community alliance for a better tenderloin and met with stakeholders the mayor led a meeting with business leaders in the community and we discussed this framework and this plan and i think that this -- what we landed on here comes through with a nice compromise we had some folks calling for a big resource center at 440 and some folks calling for no client services at 440 and we struck a great ball and we found support throughout the neighborhood and activating the site providing security and a place for people to come in and not a magnet bringing people in and not having the people bringing from all over the city and that was one of the biggest concerns that we heard and we wanted to be really responsive and a good neighbor and we're interested in working with the block the other business owners and other providers on the block to activate that space and we look forward to being part of the neighborhood. >> thank you. >> yeah. >> in regards to -- i'm just curious emily, in regards to those two large community meetings i mean, departments come in here all the time saying we had this large community meeting with five people and i am just curious how many people were in attendance total for the two? >> i had 150 sign-ins from those meetings and they weren't even 75/75 but it was 150 folks total came to both of those meetings. >> that constitutes large. >> it's not large to me. >> every department has the defense. >> any other questions? ok. if i could just add to that, you know, the issue that has come up and i have received e-mails about this today is that there were some folks who felt like we ignored their concerns about having showers and laundry facilities on site and i want to be clear we didn't ignore anybody's concerns and we didn't grow with everybody's concerns so we understand, we made a proposal and it was not accepted by the community and we scaled it back to turn it in to something else after listening to folks but where we landed on this it's noting going to be a resource center and it will be a welcoming department and meet the needs of our clients who come in as someone coming in getting a bus home or to get and go to a housing interview we need to have some very basic services available to those folks including showers and building and it's to serve one or two people to do that so we heard the community and some people want this to be lots of showers and laundry and places to sit for hundreds of people and some as emily said didn't want, we heard everybody's concerns and we did our best to balance those concerns with the needs of the department and most importantly with the needs of people who are experiencing homelessness. >> let me have -- about the office space for a second here. i guess again, i thought it was going to be office space and then it would accommodate your staff it seems like we're cutting it in half using second floor for office space. >> first and second floor. >> ok, primarily second floor. >> and then is that going to come and accommodate your exist ing staff plus grove. >> it will accommodate, yes t. will at this time it will not accommodate all of our staff we had originally presented was you know two 440 turk and ninth street it would have accommodated our staff and growth and it will accommodate our staff all of our staff and plus some growth but not staff not civil service staff who are currently working with the hot team and we're still arguing to need to find another location in order to place the hot team and we looked at possibly doing that on the first floor of 440 but it's not large enough to make that possible and to be able to at least have a welcome welcoming lobby for those who are going to come in and look for services. >> how many would this accommodate? >> where are you now? >> how many staff do we have? >> where are we locked? >> so we're currently located at 50 ivy street facility on mission street at 101 grove street at 1360 mission street and 1650 mission street. >> and you will vacating these places? >> yes. >> all except for 50 i.v. so when we're able to make the move we will be in 50 i.v. and then at 440 turks so we'll be in two locations. >> that's good to know. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> any public comments on this item come on up you have two minutes. >> hi. >> my name is and i work for the housing clinic we oversee three programs i oversee three programs which is a thorough residents in the tender loin and latino families and code enforcement and we came to know about this going back on history threw a that's what the department was proposing and there was a lot of community as to there was no community in the process it would not fly in any other neighborhood this way so there was processes but i have to disagree with the department that the final plans the concrete final plans were not put out to the community and i actually gained a lot more information coming to this meeting i would not have known about this meeting if the department wouldn't have e-mailed me and my supervisor about coming to this meeting and i'm not sure to be honest with you the community's little frustrated about the transparency as to what real re is going on we would like to the last communication that we have was october 8th i think or eighth where we got an e-mail from emily basically saying that we are scaling back 80% of the space for office and 20% would be for clients services and we're still filling out the client services and i know about the working group that would come out with a survey to figure out gnaw didn't happen so i'm asking for continuance because i think the community needs to hear about what was presented today and i hear that from the laundry facilities will be for the program but it's not what was told to me when i asked so it would be that program and summary the program did not sure yet about difference services so i think what i would appreciate is this particular information was held out to the community before coming here so i'm asking for continuance, thank you. >> thank you, very much. >> good afternoon supervisors, jim, chamber of commerce we strongly support this resolution and declaration of emergency to move this project along and every city department that deals with a constituency has to have a facility which that constituency can access that and that's what we're talking about here there's a new department consolidated moving 100 staffers in to a location we need this access and we need drop-in centers and other access points for other populations and this department serves and this is one small step towards putting this department together giving some access to its population that seeks its services at that location and strongly urge you to approve this and move it on tomorrow to the full board, thank you. >> hello i'm kelly cutler with the coalition on homelessness and we're located right next door and we are in support of this and we would like to see more access to other services because folks needed a shower and a place to sit down and also to connect 20 services and i did attend the multiple community meetings, a lot of community meetings there and honestly just like every community meeting you have in each of your districts and every district all around, there's always push back. that's just something that we're constantly dealing with. but there's a huge need in our community and in the tenderloin in that area. my concern is around what is going on with policing around there but. >> any other public comments on this item. see none. any comments. supervisor safai. >> thank you, chair. i just want to say it sounds like there's almost unanimous support for this but there's still confusion as to exactly how the 20% of the building that's going to be used as showers, laundry, i heard the presentation today about outward homeward bound program that makes sense to me it sounds like you've heard consistently that some people don't want it as a drop-in center and some people want it as expanded services but i guess, i would feel more comfortable support north item today if there was someway that we could then have your agency come back and give us a clear detailed plan maybe with some additional conversations on the communities so there's more support or there's more input and there might not be union nam tee on the issue but it sounds like the plan is not still 100% concrete and i am very happy having started my career in san francisco that you will have your office there at that location and i think it's a great location to have office space it will do wonders to bring more bodies and interested parties to that area and i spent almost more than half of my career in san francisco almost 20 years eight plus more than half of my career at that corner at the corner of turke and hide within one block so i know it better than any other block in san francisco other than the one that i live on personally and so i think that it's great um be located there and i would appreciate the opportunity for your department to come back with a very detailed plan exactly how that space is going to be used and the homeward bound program sounds like a great start but sounds like there's confusion of how it will be utilized. that would be my only comment. >> thank you. i am not sure if this general consensus yet on this and i'm not sure exactly about what the plan is and i appreciate that you've had community out reach and what is really strange about this hearing today is for all the people that are so passionate i don't see anybody here that is almost telling me something in fact this was supposedly an emergency meeting to talk about emergency items for emergency issues so there was just wondering how broadly this is put out to the public. i'm uncomfortable and i'm willing to do a continuance on this and which may then delay it a week or two or actually it doesn't matter it would be delayed until next year. i'm willing -- i haven't heard, this happened so quickly as you know this was like it was called for emergency on friday afternoon and i'd like to reared than continue tractor-trailer item i'd like to send it out of committee with no recommendation so we can move forward and as of tomorrow we can look at for the rest of the colleagues to weigh in on this and maybe i would feel more comfortable giving 24 hours to give feedback from the community and stay her motion. >> i move to send this to the full board without recommendation. >> as committee report. >> yes for tomorrow. >> ok. >> motion passes. thank you. mad amount clerk anything else. >> clerk: nothing further. >> meeting adjourned. >> good morning, ladies and gentlemen. i want to welcome you to the regularly scheduled

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