San francisco regular meeting Fire Commission wednesday, june 8, 2016, and the time is 9 oclock item one roll call commissioner president Francee Covington commissioner Vice PresidentKen Cleaveland sxhooukz commissioner Michael Hardeman chief of the department chief joanne hayeswhite here good morning and item two general Public Comment members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. With respect to agenda items, to the commission as a whole and not to individuals. Whole and not to individuals. Constitute an agreement of support for statements during Public Comment. Thank you, madam secretary any members of the public who would recycle to speak at this time okay. Item 3 proposed legislation from the board of supervisors Public Safety and Neighborhood ServicesCommittee File number ordinance amending the fire code and housing code with at tenant of a smoke alarm and require the building owners to file with the testing and inspection requirements every two years and amending the fire code and other codes to upgrade did fire systems by 2021 and upon completion of 50 thousand of work whichever occurs for the buildings to submit an action plan within thirty days of the fire and the owners or groups occupancy to install fire blocks in at t ice cream when having 50 thousands of construction work under the California Health and safety code and directing the clerk of the board of supervisors to forward this to the california Standards Commission upon passage as required by subtly. Thank you, madam secretary excuse me supervisor campos is not coming this morning and sent and representative thats correct. Please introduce yourselves. Thank you for having me. Im carolyn im the legislative aide to to supervisor campos and unfortunately hes at metropolitan commission this morning and thank you for hearing this legislation as many of you may know over the past few years fires have greatly xaktd the districts it integrity 9 and the mission area as you saw the fiction meeting theres been a lot of impact when it comes to the displacement as a result of the fires and the deaths as a result of the fires so what we decided to do together with supervisor kim and 2015 was to create a Fire Task Force to really bring together the best minds in the agency to colonel together to put forward recommendations for legislation that Fire Task Force was chaired by rewrite mary of dbi and dan played a Critical Role and the Fire Department dbi Health Department and hearing if tenants and landlord they came together with a recommendation and that those recommendations resulted in the legislation before you today and so we feel that very good is through a consensus and the purpose to make sure that we are as quick as possible moving forward those pieces of legislation that can be moved forward forward quickly and holding other areas for discussion continue to have those discussions moving forward this piece of legislation brings out key components that are all part of Fire Task Force discussion so i wanted to briefly i believe youve seen the bulletin points ill go over them quickly building owners to provide a nose for slammer in spanish and chinese and english, and, secondly, did residential building owners that have a fire alarm they fire a statement of compliance with the annual inspectionnd testing and the former it posted this enables the tenants to see the landowner are up to date with the safety requirement and third it requires the building owners to renovate, upgrade existing fire alarm and again, this is for those who have a fire alarm to comply with the sleeping area requirement and gave them time to do this when we submit a permit for 50,000 or more or by july 2021 that gives them 5 years to come up to speed and requires that Apartment Building orientals have an update action plan when there is a fire and to insure the city and the tenants have the information when a fire has taken care of with adapt and finally requires the owners to a residential building of 50 o 60 residents to install the fire installation and open at t ice cream when they pull a permit of 50,000 or more those are the essential components of the legislation were excited that we again have the support of fire chief chief joanne hayeswhite and her staff has been helpful as well as the other departments and dbi and came together to a lot of collaboration and hope you will ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. And thank you. Thank you. Is there any Public Comment at this time . All right. Public comment is closed. And go to any fellow commissioners beginning with commissioner Vice President cleaveland thank you very much carolina couple of questions thank you very much for being here representing supervisor campos one of the things i was looking at you were focusing on residential; right . Residential buildings i mean, thats the whole problem with the fires in residential building not commercial; correct . Some mixed use with the first floor. Those requirements apply to Property Owners of residential buildings what portions the residential building that are residential; correct . Okay want to make sure you clarify that you know as the top of the ordinance you say you require the building owners to require tenants should be residential tenants not retail tenants residential so our focus on residential tenants and their safety so i think that is important to scrub that clearly making sure it only applies to residential tenants and our occupancy properties or mixed use with residential. Okay. So thats an important clarification that needs to be made. As you may know we have a conversation in our office regarding the costs we say commissioners would ever say unless you want to jeopardize safety with costs we want to make sure the costs by enforcing this on the residential Property Owners in the city is going to be covered somehow by our budget it will be supplemented with additional monies or find monies with dbi thats my only concern the cost of the departmental occurred ramping up the series of inspection requirements and documentation of fire alarms and, etc. Etc. They cost money uhhuh. Want to make sure our department has resources to do the job right thats it. Thank you commissioner Vice President cleaveland. Commissioner nakajo please. Thank you madam president thank you for your presentation this morning. I had a question and a comment most of my comment that commissioner Vice President cleaveland made in terms of making sure this legislation enforcement and we had a really good presentation and discussion at the last Commission Meeting and again with the support of commission and the department reinforce the finding with our efforts to supervisor campos office to the first time historical meeting in the mission here talks about existing fire alarms system by my emphasis july 1st, you said july 21st so i was trying to look for a clarification on that. So i was referring to the deadline to upgrade the films by 2021 so the requirements to renovate, upgrade is july 2021 or a building pulled another 50,000 or more. Your reference is not jill 21st your reference was 2021 correct. Any other comment is basically associated in the presentation we had at the last Commission Meeting it was talked about in terms of causeandeffect with the association does and we supported in xhaushlz but it came down to what will it take as a department to reinforce do the work this legislation will produce and that became a very important discussion my myself it is good there is legislation but no realty check in terms of who will had had work what will it cost us we in our department have to have it yearly terms of the supplementals i wanted to make sure that we are clear that somehow this has to be reinforced in the budget thats my main and i do believe i dont know if chief joanne hayeswhite i know that mark corso is here and part of those discussions about shared responsibilities with dbi would like to comment. Correct were continuing to we agree and i think the legislation is good but it will burden us with additional tasks and so we want to make sure just like our saying we have adequately resources and were working collaboratively and in conjunction that the department of building inspection i believe commissioner president covington was provided with some numbers of with we thought we needed by the fire marshall de cossio and mr. Corso you can review that im happy to report we reached an agreement with the department of building inspection so 1 point one Million Dollars in the next over the course of the next year for a total of 2. 2 to outreach for the community and in the investor and inspector as well as additional staff including those that are working to collect and track all the data. So thank you very much for that and may continue with that thank you very much chief for that information at the last meeting part of that presentation and discussion was asking a fire marshall de cossio to identify personnel of what we might need to do that i believe that mr. Corso provided for us a budget summary nevertheless what the kochts are would reflect that information chief joanne hayeswhite part of solution in terms of the some of the costs. I believe so, yeah. Thank you mr. Corso you want to comment and reinforce the question that i have in terms of this legislation. Absolutely good morning, commissioners as the chief mexicos were working closely with the Mayors Office and did department of building inspection as we put together our budget ill more details as one of the later items but working with the chief we identified the resources required for the 3 main components as part of legislation some has no additional staff and some i think the original intent of the tracking of the alarm certifications was done by dbi as part of the discussions thats been transferred to fire along with funding to help assist with that theres civilian positions for an analyst and office of the city administrator Additional Inspector positions found through 9 work order with beginning or Additional Inspectors allocated in the department. Thank you mr. Corso youre now the director of finance; is that correct. Yes, sir. At one time funding or will be rolled into an annual biscuit for us. Were working closely with the Mayors Office given the constraint the budget being for two years were funded and as this program ruled out and phased in closer to the 2021 deadline were going to work with dbi and the Mayors Office. Thank you very much i want to get reinforced because from the time of the mission to this protective to the discussion in terms of the budget for the department to this position that were in this morning thats pretty good take with the Fire Department and others depends are involved i want to be clear thank you for your time. Thank you commissioner nakajo pursue commissioner Michael Hardeman. Thank you madam president and thank you for showing up and supervisor campos deserves a lot of credit for this legislation and youre the one your fellow staff that put this altogether we know how that works great things and a lot of the complauz like the fire escape common sense things that is spelled out and Good Building owners if nothing else keeps their mind on somebody coming in to inspect and keep hallways clear a lot of again implications not only policies and procedures but this is our concern im sure the chief and mr. Corso doing their best to cover the financial obligations and appreciate this this was well written. Thank you to supervisor campos very good. Thank you thank you commissioner Michael Hardeman hello, again how are you. Good, good. As a number of people have already mentioned you know this legislation we have no problems with the legislation it is just definitely that the mentally ill have to be earmarked in advance of us being able to you know deliver what it is that supervisor campos, supervisor kim, supervisor yee supervisor tang supervisor president london breed and supervisor wiener would expect from us and the figures are there comes to total of one Million Dollars plus to support the positions that would have to be created and filled in order to be able to do the work that needs to be done and if were getting 1. 1 million per year from the department of building inspection we have a shortfall for me you know when you get that close to 2 million you should call it 2 million that means well have a shortfall of approximately 900,000 that has to be earmarked along with this legislation it seems to me in order for us to be able to process approximately 5 thousand forms annually as well as adding clerical and additional clerical and manage rally support to has there been any discussions about area marking funds. Just to clarify the large portion of budget relates to the 5 year deadline from now that means the requirement upgrades for existing frrmz well have foul discussions in the coming weeks this is a cost not within the immediate yearly costs the estimate as mr. Corso noted the impact comes around the completion date of 2021 this in terms of when there be a lot of applications related to the requirements to renovate, upgrade existing fire alarms well be siftd with Fire Department and gi but the way i read it now mr. Corso maybe wants to comment it sounds like the department figured out a way to funds what is required to implement this law and have discussions to make sure it is fully funded. As part of discussion we need a timeline were fine for the next two years then the Fire Department has been around for one and 50 years and will be for another one hundred and 50 years Going Forward we need to know. Mr. Corso we were allocated 1. 1 million from beginnidbi and from the ma office for a plan floor check the other part currently we anticipate a lot of the the work will be done in the 5 year plan by the nature of when those plans are protdz the on the part the plans are processed fees and revenues associated with those that will supplement our staff beyond the two years for additional personnel and resources to handle that. So in your opinion the annual fees offset the Additional Resources. Yes. In the fire marshall de cossio i cant speak for him but bans from the combination of dbi funding and even though additional Mayors Office funding for the 4 inspector positions that is sufficient to implement this phase one of this program. The phase one two years. Correct the first two years. Thats some relieve fire marshall de cossio would you like to add to this discussion. Good morning as far as the Additional Resources we earmarked those we ran one and 50 percent of the volume last year a spike in the intact of plans thats why we asked for Additional Resources thats accounted for as far as this legislation goes i think there what mark so seven hundred is true well recoup the fees as applications come in you, however, we need to be ahead of that we need training cant hire someone and go to it it it takes time to ramp up to receive thousands of applications so i think to the immediate term in the next two years were fine i think two years down the road we have to start ramping up the staff for the 2021 year. Very good thank you im wondering do you have any additional remarks mr. Corso. Okay thanks any comments from my fellow commissioners i know were going to be gopher the budget a little bit later than so ill hold off until that time maam, any last words. Thank you all for hearing this and thank you, again, for holding the Fire Commission in the commission. Thank you more and more reign for youre planning and the community appreciated that thank you. Thank you it was our pleasure to be there next item, please. Oh, excuse me commissioner nakajo. Madam president may i get a point of clarification that was agendas decided it says discussion and possible action are you is theyre going to be action on this today. I dont hear a motion i have to respond to a request for comment on the part of legislative branch the government so based on our discussion well support the legislation we want to make sure that the monies are there so that things can be implemented as planned. Okay. But i will be entertain a motion at this time if you want to present one. I want to render a question first to the chief and supervisor campos office is there a you want action on improved motion this morning. Youre welcome the Fire Commission support absolutely. With the concerns that were raised this morning budgetaryly and otherwise my only additional comment chief the fire marshalls comment for preparing as things in the department and as important as ever there are no dollar to the department i want to make sure we are ready to handle we all know the city is growing and came out of concerns of fires in the mission that has all kinds of other ramifications we the department are responsible for the fire for preservation and frrmz so i want to make sure were doing our part and also done different collaboration within the city where funding was n