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pertains to the entertainment commission that's not currently on the agenda. a public comment? public comment is closed. item number two, approval of the meeting minutes. i believe we will rightfully continue this item >> i move to continue the minutes to our next meeting >> moved and seconded. >> the approval of the minutes of the next meeting at second. any public comment? commissioner lee seconded. let's of those. >>[roll call vote]. >> item 3 is a report from executive director and our inspectors. i will hand it over to director kane >> thank you good evening. i will make it short. i'm a little bit [inaudible] i was off for the last three weeks. one of the things i want to report on is one of the reasons i went which is to attend this thing called music city conference. it was put on by group by sound diplomacy, which in a nutshell is bringing together people from all over the world to do work in the nighttime economy in many cases in other countries focus on live music and music industry as opposed to you know, being an inclusive of other kinds of entertainment, but by and large, they were very interested in-and i was able to spend some time talking about our chapter 116 work which is unique in the states. they do it in berlin and they are certainly looking at it in london very closely and hopefully, now a lot of other places.. lots of folks from australia, canada, other obviously english-speaking countries, there were people from all over the world, and i think it went really well. it was very exciting and him and contacting out with people that i never thought i would meet. people from classic officials from all over the place. it was really interesting. so, i hope to be doing more about and then maybe we will be able to bring some folks here from other countries to talk about how they do the work they do. we are, again as we've said in the past, i had in some ways of most folks in terms of nighttime county management. from the standpoint of the government involvement and really having sort of a solid base to protect and enliven nightlife. however, it does come from a regulatory sort of side of things and we have some stuff we can do better , i think, sort of on the promotion side and the protection of creative industries and protective of targeted jobs. so, hopefully i'll be bringing forward some new things are you to chew on. then, while i was gone, maggie was able to convene the panel to finally do interviews for the eight 1823 position on outdoor events that haven't talked about forever. they did those interviews and there is an offer being extended or conditional offer at this point, based on background checks and fingerprints to the person who scored the highest, and so i can't at this point who say who that is, but it is-we are almost there. so, the pool was a really good sort of applicants so i think we found a good fit. >> you think bill be here by next meeting? two weeks? >> no. >> a month? >> probably. >> okay good that's great >> yes. there's a lot of work to do and will be off and running. so unless you have any questions for me- >> take me >> can we all go? >> i will hand it over to mr. polly. >> i will start it up your good evening, commissioners. report about inspections first. i want to correct the date. the first item and union st., festival it says 514. that was a typo. june 4 it was there around 5 pm. i was there for a couple hours in the area observing the surrounding area the side avenues, checking for [inaudible] this sort of thing. huge police presence. in the alleys and side streets. a lot of venues on fillmore street seen a bump in early activity, 6-7 8 pm. the [inaudible] was for street wwe did not receive any complaints so a well. on 520, may 20, the second item it says 5-2. i forgot to put the zero. this was at 3:30 pm. we talked about this at last meeting can an issue regarding the noise alley ministry at 1021 sanchez st. i made contact with the church on or before the show took place that we talked about and i talk to her about it looking like what they were doing was entertainment. i told her she needed to contact our deputy director and talk to her to she ended up doing a leader in the week. i'm not sure how it played out in the end, nevertheless, i went by after 5 pm after the event started to see if there was any sound issues for the complaint and i did not notice anything. it was not imperceptible. nevertheless i told her because we don't permit the venue, i didn't-i'll be taking on a hands-off approach and waiting for direction from staff. so will see how that goes. i'm sure not sure how that's going to play out. on the 19th, this was at 620, i stop by mission cultural center to do an inspection. i talked to-that the operations manager i talked permit they do not have a permit post. they posted it in from inside the information booth. they can you schedule of events and just explain to them some of things. i been there a couple times so it was an interesting place to kind of stop i i was just checking on it. i left this item off last meeting on by accident but because dollhouse, 315 916 straight last year they were subject to an abc action regarding an employee peddling marijuana and me and sean went by with al al view and talk to my brother. nevertheless, that was a good idea to stop in. then check in on what's going on could honestly, they have mechanical moving devices there like 5-6 pinball machines in the front of the venue. i talked to their bartender just asked about any underage drinking or gambling or anything. stuff like that. but it looks fine. there every thing is in compliance with a couple of 1:20 am. i deserve the sidewalks in the management the audrey and john adult with him before. so, it's been a while since we instructed him to move their line and manage their sound better and then not received any complaints and on this particular night they were in compliance. i took a quick look at elbow room. i was in the area. i pass by a bunch of venues. i just pick out elbow room. i observe the exterior environment of the venue. it was busy but patrons were moving the sidewalks were not too cluttered. so it was fun. fine. on 21 may, at the end of the night operation, for [inaudible] there sidewalks looked a little cluttered. if i was-i could've the world am a notice of violation but it wasn't really that serious because it just look like they're end of the night. there were no complaints but nevertheless going to stop i do a follow-up inspection i scheduled for this weekend. a couple complaints. one of them is a complaint with the dealing with for a while. this is blatant and 1351 folk st. over the last few weeks i have observed the avenue in the sound environment and what my determination is is that it's collective sound, first of all. not just that venue. that avenue is busy with venues. nevertheless, after talking to inspector burke he states that he can clearly hear the base over everything else. so, the next step is to do in the end tests and compliance testing whenever i'm out there and they request testing. so we'll see how that plays out. the last item is a complaint in regards to club mala. they got a couple complaints. there really hasn't been many complaints in a while, but it got a couple in the last few weeks. this one was saturday at 11 pm. i was able to go by almost immediately within a half hour-45 min. i stopped out on virginia avenue about 20 feet from the property to see if i could hear anything. i could hear a little on mission street but nothing that would be out of line for the kind of thing they do. but, even though it's particularly quite on the street and neighborhood, it gets a lot quieter in the residencies and the so i'm sure the neighbors are expensive and something. so, i scheduled to do some interior noise testing with them and we'll see how that goes. i'll report back to you any questions? >> i have one for noise alley ministry. were we not tipped off by someone about that? >> yes. >> did you contact them about just following up about your inspection? >> i was in contact with them. this particular neighbor was a little on the aggressive side. i like to wait until i develop some kind of information before going back and forth because it ends up being just a bunch of stuff being thrown against the wall. you know what i mean? >> sure >> idle her complaint was valid or not so the first thing was to make contact 01 to give the venue to the opportunity to defend himself and discuss the results will discuss the matter with our deputy director >> i see. okay, that's fine. any questions for inspector burke? i'm sorry, polly. the record should show actually commissioner jan caminong and commissioner frost re:. >> the reason you are hearing this [inaudible] more mundane visits is because they switched areas so i have not done that before. but i did it because i felt like there was in importance and not getting too comfortable. so jordan's visiting venues that sean is very familiar with and different eyes and different experiences i think is been a be a better system to make sure that everyone doesn't get too complacent were too close to these guys at a comfort level around, you know, how they work and what they do. they're very different operators, these two. i think that is a good thing. so he's can go to malibu totally different than he will now sean is going to go to the nightclubs [inaudible] >> we caught that when you -either that was great because we had heard about venues we not heard of about reported inspector polly, director kane and good evening president >> good evening. a couple new complaints. one for the grand -lounge on geary right round abuelo. this is a establishment that had applied for a permit when ms. can meet locks on what was with us and something held it up, a be something along the lines of their abc permit. we did get a complaint recently about what sounds like midi karaoke going on at towards the end of their hours. i have been unable to witness that and i'm in touch with the complainant. the complainant has my mobile number or try to work out communication i know susie able to report to me when when he hears sound coming from-. i'll keep you posted on that. we have received a complaint from the hampton inn, fairly new hotel across the street from mezzanine. on jefferson street. upon some conversation with the assistant manager there, i learned that you seven complaining for some time. this is first time that lodged a formal complaint.. everybody was in the organization thought each other were filing complaints so this is the first time we've heard of it. i've been on site for taking measurements in a guest room there and i've spoken with the owner at mezzanine. we are waiting to get some information about some conversations that happened between the previous owner of mezzanine and the developer of a hotel to see kind of how some conversations went down in planning the construction. i hope to have some more information for you by next meeting. >> are they complaining about music were people in the streets are what? >> on the lower floors there something to picture noise but the upper floors are just base and it's only on the jesse side. i was told that the mission site is double pained and the jesse side is not. the jesse side >> which makes perfect sense because the jesse side is a nightclub in the mission side doesn't. how ridiculous. >> there's also that. mounted air conditioning units on the jesse side, so there's the free flow of sound waves coming through. >> chapter 116, doesn't include hotels, right just residential? >> this is correct. i confirm this and i've made an inquiry as to the possibility of amending chapter 116 to include hotels because there has been in the news regarding a possible creation of what are called [inaudible]. but i may or may not be able to get that done in time. we will see. >> thanks. they should be in a just similar. >> i'll keep you updated as i get more info. >> is the picture noise on the jesse side coming through the windows? going through that door work into the building? as they are choosing to put-to do like accept patrons on the jesse side and not the mission side, which is actually the front about oh is the mission side, right? >> poseurs, so the jesse side doors are manned with a hotel representative. the mission side is locked. you can access both ways. both of double sliding doors. >> so let me get this straight. the main entrance about tell is on jesse side, which is the side that does not have a double pane windows and is across the street from a nightclub? >> from the layout of the building, i would say, yes >> so, the mission street side which is not near anything has double pained windows and is not the main entrance of the building? >> from what i could tell, set yes >> that makes perfect sense. >> little tally narrow street >> a couple of inspections. the chamber of the restaurant at the phoenix hotel had a couple of outdoor amplified events for memorial day. we have a resident off hold, i think i mentioned previously, that has graciously allowed me entrance to his residence. i've taken in the and measurements so i can compare those to he's disturbed at this point we get a good ambient measurement. i was able to get access and take a measurement their weekend as well during entertainment i'm a but that particular weekend wasn't as loud as previous as he had mentioned. so, he's going to be in touch next time there's an event and will see if we can get a good beating analyzing frequencies and see if there something we can do to contain the chamber sound. >> i noticed they been promoting a lot more events by their pool. >> i think is the season swings there's going to be >> more than in past years >> they definitely capitalize on holidays and-as well summer as well, two. >> is this complaint is the same complaint and that has been complaining? is this a big building a multiunit building? >> correct. on polled. the first physical unit overhangs, and on one side and the chamber is slightly visible from another window on the property. so he's getting sound from chambers a little bit of people noise, some base, and then actually some noise from fixed mechanical on top of brenda's so i put him in touch with the department of health as well to address that. multiagency investigation. >> i see. thank you. >> quick update about this year's con of all. very smooth. everything was on time. i was on site both days and in touch with organizers. we were able to provide a schedule ahead of time and i was able to check-in multiple times throughout the day both saturday and sunday. no complaints that i came to [inaudible] directly to us. all in all the was a big success. susan sarandon's ping-pong nightclub was brought to our attention. 690 fulsome st. we were made aware of some dj even said that. i was able to stop by and talk to the manager and now were in the process of getting him permitted. this past weekend, early sunday morning, at the end up there was an incident with a firearm. i paid a visit on sunday evening to talk to security and management of the end up. we sat down for about an hour interviewed 630 footage, talked about what happened. they met with the sfpd today and we are meeting scheduled for thursday at 11 am with staff in the office to discuss the incident and what should we be doing during to move four. forward. >> with that inside or outside? >> at this point we do not know. >> some of those lease reports are not public record depending on the outcome. >> can you- >> i said some police reports are not a matter of public record, depending on the outcome of the incident. >> i reach out to the permit officer today and at that point even he did not have any kind of incident report or narrative because i think the investigation is still pending. >> forced and social clubs does that mean they're not really open what does that mean? >> they are open with ping-pong at the night that i visited her mother was a dj. now they're in the process of starting. >> so we will see them soon? >> yes >> grades. great. sounds like relatively quiet given how bad it could be. any questions from commissioners? public comment? public comment is closed >>[gavel] >> will move on with our meeting to item number four police department comments and questions. i don't see any least upon representatives tonight so we'll just will bring along to item number five. hearing and possible action regarding permits. we have two tonight and i'll handed over to a deputy director. >> great. good evening, commissioners. others permit application it this evening is for women in live performance, it is for a limited beer basement located at 222 highest rate in the former space of the basement. new owner, steve smith owns the special specialty beer store and ills unlimited in pacific heights. he plans on expanding this business model that is new premises so is actually did have for entertainment stand up comedy, open mic night, live jazz, and all can be in a craft beer focused bar. he hopes to be able to of flexibility and when he does an arm but always and by 10 pm. i haven't received any opposition about the permit application. we approve it with a good neighbor policy. the only condition. here to tell you more about his application is owner, steve smith. >> good evening. yes, we just picked up the basement and we change it as a site location from our facility in pacific heights. we only have retail and stability to do like a surf the draft and the limited products we have. there used to be a stand up comedy before at that location, and open mic and initially we did not have this as a anything under plan, but when he approached us a few times we said, okay why not. we could use the momentum and get the what they already had to i think was every thursday they had stand up-not open mic and every saturday they had for two hours they do standup comedy and so we met with the department to ask if we can apply for that license. >> are usurping any hard alkyl or is it just.? >> just beer and wine. we didn't want to do hard alkyl because that's not our focus. we did it for eight years on. at least a location with hard alkyl but the more premium single malts. we don't do anything in the mixed [inaudible] actually our focus is more in the upper end of the spectrum of the products. so a different kind of overly different kind of [inaudible] then used to be >> are you familiar with the history of the basement and the neighbors around? >> yes. i just had a few times met with sam. she's with [inaudible] >> great >> i spoke with her this afternoon actually. she had to pull the kids outside to get everybody alerts. she was happy that we moved in because apparently it was some complaint here and there from the previous owners. we picked everything out what they had in their swap the noise complaints there before i got there anymore because we actually don't have anything existing what they had in the. that got pulled out. i reach out to some of the other stores around [inaudible] quite as the neighborhood. everybody so far was okay with that we moved in, yes. >> great. i think-main complaints of our previous permit holder and so i think if you are if you're spoken with them and actually change the equipment >> i spoke with sammy before-five times. i walked around just to get familiar with the area. i ran into actually she wants to come down tonight but because the whole voting idea she said she may not but in case you need some kind of letter she would be glad to write something up if it's required. but she was really forthcoming and we met the first time i think was one we still were doing renovations. she was very happy that we moved a lot of the equipment out. >> great. commissioner caminong >> are you open until midnight? >> were open tuesday, wednesday thursday currently from 4 pm-10 pm and then friday and saturday we are open 4 pm-until midnight. that's just because the neighborhood we want to engage first what customer base were going to get but we did not have the intention to stay very long unless somebody asks us if we could stay a bit longer. we had some increase for opening mondays, which we did have in the plan before. somebody wants to watch the wwf on monday nights. we thought would be a cool hangout spot for three hours so will look into that. so we don't open long. we don't do the same thing in pacific heights. we close at 8 pm and pacific heights. we try to be early down. not saving up at night >> you are aware the permit you're asking for is only until 10 pm? >> yes that's fine. i think the standup was from 6 pm until 8 pm or something like that. they didn't do it long. it's always 10 pm would be the idea. he used to be a green room for the [inaudible] so the will be mays be some people would like to play jazz and obviously they would like to go until 10 pm or something like that for the life >> are you going to be entertaining yourself or do you have a manager doing that for you? >> we do not look into that yet. we just want to get the ball rolling with the permit for the standup comedy. these guys are from day one have a huge following apparently so they want us to do-that he turned down several venues already because it was no permit and they were bit behind with filing a one-time application, and so i just said, look, as long as we have to wait, we have to wait get if they came in a few saturdays want to do something i said, no, unless we have a permit we won't do anything >> to have someone in-house in charge of the sound system and volume who's going to manage the equipment we pick >> no. there's nothing going to be that loud in the system right now. we can put anything in which can go that route. >> you have an existing sound system >> yes. it's not a pa system it's like a home stereo system with some macintosh and [inaudible] speakers. because of the jazz back onto idea was to play jazz were some there's no subs. there's no base coming. you guys: i think we have [inaudible] but there's no 20 inch whoppers and we don't intend to the one in >> was going be responsible to make sure the sound is not- >> there's not enough volume to go that high. the system we put in is maxed out at 150 w. that's not even remotely in a pa system. they can go that loud. i mean, at least we did not have a complaint from anybody. we want to keep the level the people can actually talk to each other so there was a lot of people that i think some of it was a very cozy atmosphere and one of the reasons was we had as background music to entertain people. i think that was the difference before. the previous owner got people in because the nightclub. our idea was to get people and for the year and wine and then have some background music just to have it running, but not to actually entertain them with the music. >> president of comedy is entertainment, right? >> but they just talk. you know. these guys they make jokes. he did yes that's entertainment >> i mean i just have no idea because i didn't think was funny but it's just a. no, they're very nice people. i don't think it's can be that loud. i think the noise complaints as sam told me was because of the 2 a.m. electronic dance music they play. that was just the people upstairs for whatever reason that the tenants actually said on my god don't do that but we said it's not our focus. we have a totally different idea. >> so, i've more than 150 watts in my house. so just so you know, but if you were soundproofed at all? i mean are you know complains that all? you have not done this yet, right? >> were opened and would play musical we don't play loud music. >> have you got any complaints? >> note >> none whatsoever. do you have any soundproofing? >> the ceiling whatever the soundproofing was before. >> so that doesn't work >> if i can interject, this is 222 height. if you remember- >> yes. nevermind. got it. yes. >> what does that mean? >> i'm not sure what that means but i think >> i will tell you >> this is the [inaudible] we ashley saw the last permit holder not very long ago. it's very different program than what is being proposed now. that was the place of entertainment [inaudible] i think you're actually asking for the exactly right thing. the limited by permit is in ansley ancillary title permit with the comedy were entertainment, whatever it may be isn't the prime reason people are there. >> yes. i think like i told before i used to be a dj for 15 years and that's probably not designed to be anything. so that's what-there's no point to do anything like that. so, we put like for background speakers in the place and obviously when inspectors show up they can see that but the idea was more, they were more designed for basic even the layout we been exhibiting out and put some seats in there. we put leather couches in. like a lounge, big carpets go people can just it used to be only a country four and too much echo effect so we put a big person kind of rug on the floor to get rid of that problem the echo effect. that didn't seem to help except [inaudible] because they wanted to put drapes with some kind of special spray >> fire retardant. >> yes >> great. i think events are sufficiently our questions. i do know there's others from commissioners? if not, one of you have ac. one recommendation is, know the painful full person could not come tonight if you can get at e-mail sent to us that that would provide us a little more >> she said it's no problem if it's required and i think she knew exactly what it is and she says he wanted to show up, but again the whole today with a voting and everything >> yes. it's not required but i think it helps your case. thank you. any public comment about this? public comment is closed. commissioners, you have a motion? >> i motion to approve the permit. [inaudible] >> so you will move to approve the permit with police conditions. item i didn't see any please condition to adjust the good neighbor policy. >> moved and seconded. let's think about >>[roll call vote]. >> the motion passes >>[gavel] >> congratulations. we will onto our next and final permit tonight boxcar theatre. >> so, final permit for this evening is a place of entertainment for boxcar theater. this is at 644 broadway st. boxcar is a nonprofit performing arts organization. they intend to use the new venue as the new home for the speak easy to identity i support about that before, but that's an immersive theater experience allows audiences to explore replica of the 1920s speakeasy in san francisco. they're really cool idea. the performances are going to include live music, cabaret, vaudeville and much more. the planning department has sent a recommendation and stuck it in there. it's not actually three plunged but i wanted you to see. they approved other entertainment use as permitted by right within this district, but alerts the commission that the components of the bar within the premises is currently awaiting a conditional use authorization hearing before the planning commission. the entertain commission is only proving the use of the entertainment for the space so it should not be a problem. the applicant of the neighborhood is an outreach that you'll see in the files that i've not received any opposition for this permit application. central station approves of the permit with the applicant's existing safety plan as a condition. as well as having bartenders and or tips train and having camera security footage maintained for at least two weeks. so, this is david back from boxcar theater. >> on the general manager boxcar theater good a professional theater producer did i been managing director the magic figure for five years. i also served as the mayor's arts task force and 25-26. the applicant is nick alabama. he's the founder and artistic director boxcar did he not here tonight because he zero personal. our rehearsal. our plan our private use of the space is two remount our production of the speakeasy. we ran this in 2014 very successfully in a venue and the tenderloin behind golden gate. we did 75 performances were all sold out. we left that location when the building was sold and or tenancy was terminated. we were very happy and lucky to find the location of north beach. it's a much larger venue and it's a very big step up for boxcar theater, which has been around for 12 years and is performed primarily in 49 seat theaters in soma and the tenderloin. it is now building a 9000 ft.2 venue for 250 people along the north beach chinatown border. the speakeasy is a immersive theater means there's no separation between the audience and the actors. there's no actual stage. you build this theatrical environment. not parties were doing a replica of the speakeasy and we populate the environment with actors. they can be 35 actors in the cast that way people from making 23. so there will were one veterans, there are bootleggers and comment. there's regular people from the group, to the city for a night on the town. many actors by people like the bartender and the club owner and of the chorus girls in the mc. the evening unfolds. the audience members tend to come dressed in costumes. sorry heavily encouraged and weep with costumes out. in your speakeasy it's often hard to tell who the actors are and who the audience members are until the action unfolds. our format includes--it is a speakeasy so the physical layout includes a bar, backroom casino and cabaret space and cabaret space we do a vaudeville show authentic 1923 vaudeville show. control of west, magician, horace goes, chanteuse, and comedy abbott and costello routines and so on. the event goes from 7:30 am-10:45 pm and were contemplating subsequent show a late-night show that would go from baby 11:30 pm until 12:45 am. how's that furniture and? >> i want to go. >> it's pretty fun. it's pre-popular >> what is your [inaudible] joe's clock shop?. it's one of the false front business. there's a lot of misdirection involved when you buy a ticket you don't get the address of the theater. we give you a wanted viewpoint reader supposed to meet some addressed certain way. maybe wearing a yellow hat. maybe reading a book of burns: getty rotary that we asked them what's your favorite line from howard something like that. if you're on the list the annual map to the theater and let's say a pocket watch to be repaired. so when you arrive at the theater the façade is not a theater it shows clock shop and you going to talk to joke you cannot pocket watch. he directs you to through the employee entrance, down the stairs. there is a grandfather clock. google open the rent of the pocket has a false back you step through. 1923 >> i love it. tell me [inaudible] >> family laundry is other false front visit. we are multiple entrances. so the venue has three entrances. this one is the skies is a 1920s chinatown london that pertain almost to where we sit on the borderline to do additional communities. in that entrance you also go down to the service entrance and you come out behind the counter with the employees would be. press the cash register and open the counter and then then you enter the speakeasy >> last questions at the easter egg room. what is that? >> the easter egg room good it's the show was very heavily scripted. the script actually over 1200 pages and there's seems happening simultaneously in six different parts of the floor plan. but there's also opportunities for audience interaction and one of the flavors is: easter egg room where an audience member will be invited by a actor to go into a private chamber and had a one-on-one encounter. it's not a salacious as it sounded just a monologue where i can than no other discussion back and forth between the actor and the audience member >> may call it an easter egg room because? >> that's a not of the had to computer games and there's some influence on in the gamer community on this theater project and so an easter egg in the computer game is when you stumble upon a hidden treat in the game world that is not open to the general gaming public. >> when are you opening? >> our intentions of our first performance on august 12 we actually went into her so yesterday was our first rehearsal >> my mother's birthday >> anyway, we just went into rehearsal. the 10 week rehearsal process. were sort of racing the contractors out of there as quickly as we can. so that we can stick with the power schedule and of course were working closely with the many city agencies to get all the permits in place in time for that first performance. >> i wish you the best of luck. it sounds awesome >> thank you >> i went to it in the tenderloin. it's really fun. superfund >> i been some stuff like that, but this sounds like so much fun. >> in fact i should put it my calendar summary. i think i saw these book event and i was like speakeasy tickets go on sale. >> yes are going on sale on monday. >> monday the 13th >> yes >> is it more than one level? it's not like you're going underground >> yes. so the location is a former new world cinema. at 644 broadway and that's completely subterranean. >> is it immersive we pick >> no. were not on the first floor or any of the other floors. that's other businesses on those were good ours is multilevel but expert level because the movie theater slopes down. and was 20 feet or more of ceiling height with the screen was. >> great. >> is actually gambling in the casino area? >> this fake gaming and the casino edge. we are very strict about conforming to doj requirements. so there's nothing you can't win a free drink coupons or a free ticket or even a teacher. there is nothing. you just play for bragging rights we give you [inaudible] at the end of the night. >> what is the status of the planning commission and the conditional use? >> are hearing is set for july 28. we've been encouraged by the planner, my understanding is that theater bar is using a permitted access radius wherever a theater is permit but there's restrictions that no alcohol sales can be allowed as an accessory use. so, we been required to get a conditional use permit to open the theater bar, but they lead me to believe the planning department leads me to believe that should be a formality. >> okay, good luck >> thank you >> will people be able to drink while walking around? >> yes. we have two bars in the 9000 square-foot floor plan and we also table service. it's part of the-is very much a theater event also was a bit of of your nightlife event. >> that's great. any other questions or thoughts? i'm really excited about is the only other immersive theater extends that was in new york with the no more and that was amazing could i said likely have something like this in san francisco. i'm glad people say arts is dying in san francisco and the scene is dying, is the current attack wasteland, i'm glad you guys are here to fight against that >> i'm glad you mentioned that. it's not just us but the building owners, the bank, there's a whole bunch of institutions behind us who feel the way you do. they want to do-go put aside business as usual and make sure that [inaudible]. we have a 10 year lease a meal to be there for a long long time. >> that is awesome. so, good luck to you. i don't there's other comes of questions? how much? >> how much are tickets? $100. it's a big >> comedy cast we pick >> it's 35 actors and then seven musicians and there's the gaming cable operators and the cocktail staff and all in all it 75 people on staff to produce one show including the required three security personnel. so, the costs are not insubstantial >> and you said the current 732- >> it's 1045 three point 3.25 hours. 35 actors, $100, a deal. i just came from new york. let me tell you, theater tickets are like-[inaudible] that's great. >> thank you. >> all right. i don't know there's any public comments. there's not a crowd behind you but with open up for public comments. >> choice of them? >> yes. thank you so much. public comment is now closed. commissioners >> i moved to approve >> >> moved and seconded. great. let's take a vote. >> with police conditions. >> i do not look at the police conditions. i'm sorry. i was just so excited about the whole thing. where are the police conditions >> looks like security cameras to the main maintain for two weeks. >> yes, okay. >> these the same safety plan, sorry. >> yes, that's fine >> so there's a motion with police conditions for approval. if the second? >> moved and seconded. same house, same call that means the motion passes. good luck. hope to see you there. we have a few more things to cover. one main thing to item number six and appointment of alternate member to the residential moment review committee. when we first appointed or when i first appointed to members to the committee it had been successful so far but we've actually had some attendance challenges at times. it sort of got a lot were delayed. we would like to will forward get a special because the timing of things planning commission might be hearing it like immediately following after the meeting that we have. so, with that said, we talked to the city attorney, or staff out of his 30 attorney to figure out how to handle the situation. should we-the bottom line was we could appoint an alternate to attend only in the absence of one of our members. so, they would not be there >> [inaudible] >> one of our members. so, that the person could attend it to other committee members were there. do you have more to say? >> no. >> okay. that's the bottom wanted we briefly just one of really help with the applications along and really backlog it. i've already discussed it with commissioner thomas to see if she would be willing to join as an alternate command she has agreed. so, i believe a motion is in order to approve that nomination. so, is there any discussion or questions before we do that? commissioner, questions, thoughts? with the commotion them. >> i moved to approve and appoint-to approve the women of commissioner thomas as an alternate to rvr. >> residential development review committee. second? >> moved and seconded. any public comment? good question. you'll be a one-year term i think the same term as all the rest of the members. starting as soon as we vote. it would expire i think the same term as the other committee members. >> i have to go back and look whether you did put a term on this as a committee because typically these were-we don't sort of ad hoc standing committees until the president determine it was not necessary. so may not have a term adult to be honest with you. i have to go back and look at the original motion. i just don't remember. so, i eight- >> let's take about. >>[roll call vote]. >> without the motion passes. thank you for stepping up into that wool commissioner thomas. we will move on to item number seven commissioner comments and questions. i think there is one burning coming to my left we pick >> yes. i would like to move to close today's meeting in honor of princesses birthday june 7, 2016. >> may he rest in peace. other commissioner comments or questions? >> also to say we approve-we love our commission secretariat, crystal stewart. >> yes. commissioner perez >> it anybody watching please vote. still time. please vote. >> 31 min. >> all right. any public comment on a commissioner comments? i don't see any public comment is closed. finally, were down to new business items for future agenda. anything? none. great. with that, this meeting is adjourned at 6:30 pm. thank you very much for watching. >>[adjournment] >>[gavel] >>[adjournment]muc >> (clapping.) >> all right. good afternoon, everyone i'm kate brown serve as governor of oregon and glad to see you the pacific northwest has a difference community and shared infrastructure and a regional economy with a combined gp d of 8 trillion usd the economy ranks for the entire world the impacts and challenges of climatic change fixes us all regardless of jurisdictional boundary fighting climatic change is an economic sensitive though the pacific coast we've demonstrating that the regional collaboration does make a difference more than each of us extinguisher on our own we took action on national and international by establishing the pacific coast making an investment for resilient infrastructure and notify technologies and continue to push for national and international climate changes for the pacific northwest agreement through that collaboration and instant with the paris agreements we have a significant opportunities to reduce green house gas emissions it is so important for us to careen as partners against global climatic change and take stock of the progress and set in the candidates we create a cleaner more resilient energy feature as governor of oregon i'm condominium to have this goal and building environmental values and economic development have not exclusive goals our green house gas emissions were set within an ice for oregon to do it's part to reduce the green house gas emissions and we're actively pursuing policies and strategies to make those goals a reality oregon industry is sdruch the trajectory of green house gas emissions while supporting a thriving economy and earlier this spring i had the coal to clean for a future free of coal powder electrical by doubling the renewal energy serving organs to 50 percent by 20202025 our population is growing quickly and the demands for energy we'll strive to be a partner on climatic change and we'll continue to working hard on this greatest challenge to our way of life and continues prosperity for the jurisdictions in our country and across the entire globe thank you. >> govern jan all thank you it is said if you want to go fast good alone and if you want to go far go together we'll do this together we have a long link journey but started big time on times pacific coast for a couple of years we're governs that looked into the eyes of people go had they're a homes burn and when you see the shock of people suffering you know action is required we're providing and second we understand on the pacific coast is that economic growth and action on climatic change that are both happening in the west xooft not a coincidence but a cause one of the reasons we have a robust economy on the pacific coast we embraced the technologies of clean energy we have a fossil fuel free in washington state ways we increased the solar 100 percent last year reduced the the cost of solar and it is because of that initiative economic strategy we have a robust economy at the same time reducing the treat eve climate change i'm glad to be here the ecology ruled out a rule this is a wall of protection against cash pollution for the first time a rule will be implement in our state that creates a cash pollution coming from major e minorities and joined other states to streamlining those with all the things including the renewable portfolio and centers for solar and energy finishes in the building and the like this is a great day for my state to join other governs robust step forward and the last thing i want to mention this collaborative has been successful already one of the reasons my state has been consecutive ♪ rule we have the assistance of other states that assisted us in looking at their experience so we can create a rule that is both flexible for industries and know it works this has already worked one of the things i'm happy we have a resounding in custody emphasis over is overview twin of climatic change change ocean certification a specific treat to the maritime industries we have an industry had to move the operations by the way, of cab and i believe that with the opportunity to move on ocean certification to get away from the climatic change you're about 15 years two lastly zero doer debate about ocean cervix this cashier needs to be not going into the ocean doing damage to the waters i hole pristine i'm excited and they've to british columbia taking care of our state >> thank you govern as a representative i'm really happy to see the progress as a region it has been a great year for climatic for britain columbia not only this renewed relationship but seeing the federal government that is not taking a keen interest for a jurisdiction from canada that began this work in 2008, we're excited to have there federal papering it means right now our predicament minister is leading a protest that works towards a can canada was launched with the vancouver dilation and a lot of things we're doing in british columbia will be rfblt of what you see at a canadian approach but it goes hand in hand with what you see in front of the you it is extremely difficult to go it alone when our a natural jurisdiction like british columbia with 4 million people it is not hard to get leakage it is one of the reasons to be working together we have right now a cash tax that is one of the highest and broadcasted in the world did bank timing called that one, the most powerful example of pricing we also are the first and still the only jurisdiction in north america to, cashier neutral for the last 5 years our energy supply is 98 percent clean and the g h g emissions are amongst the lowest in canada it is not a lot of easy places to look for continued emissions reduction it makes those partnerships all the more important and i want to reinforced to you what's been express this and have to be a choices between the assignment and the economy in fact, we look at the potential results the climatic change we can clearly say our economic future as world that indeed as a region is depend on action to reduce the implications of climatic change i'll give you some example from our economy in british columbia we internal revenue by the way, the faster growing economy in canada we're the only province in canada to balance the budget we're the only province with a triple a's credit rating with a great economy wife seen 68 thousand jobs a 12 percent increase since years and the g dp rose in the realm to $6 billion plus in 2014 and that's a 18 want 3 increase from 2010 our economies don't think our actions to combat climatic change we welcomes partnerships not only because of success bus the opportunities it give us we know that for the future of our planet and the much of our children and grandchildren we can't be the generation this drops the ball we have to pick up the baton and need everyone's ideas together is the only way to successfully tackle this. >> govern. >> thank you. this is indeed another milestone in 2013, the pacific coast collaborative started it was relatively small and very embryonic in its sense here we are joined by key cities in the bay area and making that commitment to reduce carbon dioxide and other green house gas emissions this is a serious threat it is a major issue and on the west coast we remember taking action serious action now around the country there are states and political leaders that have their head in the sand and someone running for president that calls us and this meeting should be stopped immediately because everyone would be crazy but that's not say way it is and the other thing he should be stopped and should be stopped soon i've indicated yesterday (laughter) anyway, i am encouraged i try tee set the difficulty of dealing with climatic change when you read this commitment we're making there's a lot of provisions and a lot of words this is not just one thing stop this no? integrated it is comprehensive and requires governs and congress people and entrepreneurs and utility executives and mobilizing all the swath of civilization and your leadership on the west coast ultimately the united states and the rest of the world we're here in a initiative part of word most of the leaders come here and want to get part of that innovation and tremendous economic identify wisdom and we're to make a commitment for climatic change that is more and more visual in the national dialogue not enough for my sense but this what we're doing here advances the ball and how far we've come to 2013 indicates the seriousness of what we're doing and when we do this again in another year or two we're making advance and not just elected people that is this morning bill gates asia tom a serious financial players and they're here joining with anyone stares of energy from the different parts of world now with paris because of president obama and wanting she we really made a real step up ♪ effort which was not true just a couple years ago so this is important it is only another step but an important step and more and more people are following we are all collaborating organizing low cashier full standards washington is look at it as a overall cap on emissions and, of course, the cashier pricing in british columbia is recognized by the world back that's the way to go there's a lot of progress and a long way to go but each step is very important essential toe getting the ultimate goal the decashed world. >> thank you govern and i'm honored and exciting to be in the company of really great leaders that are coming together to be here to bear witness on this historic collaboration on our climatic change i'm proud to add that the city of san francisco to this agreement along with so many other west coast mayors and our city's on the front line of climatic change and becoming more clear that we can't fully address this alone we need leadership and we are seeing that happen before our eyes and desires me to be part of this work of the pacific coast collaborative the reality the impact of climatic change knows no state or city or national boundary line satisfies and daughters and wildfires are going to continue to wreak havoc across the region threatening you are victimized and property our social and economic resources and public health i look at this as a regional insurance together we've prove that decisive and national climate action we can mitigated those through goal setting and strengthening the regional economies assessment we're reducing green house gas emissions and mr. was right in san francisco we've been able to reduce the green house gas emissions to 23 percent below 1990 levels and while at the same time our population has increased by 15 percent and our economy at the same time as grown by 49 percent we can grow sustainablely for our planets this agreement will take our local efforts to a new high i look forward to work with the governors and heads of state how we might scale up the inches for great are impact i want to thank all the gofrjz and ministers for me the next step to a lot about for our neighbors to the south and look at the states of baja, california and perplexing city we can truly have been entire west coast collaborative we have a lot of work i'm excited excited to join great partners like across the bay area. >> thank you i feel this guess a resounding union four of us up here were on the stage in paris in december speaking about climatic change on the pacific coast great to continue the partnership and the work to really recognition that climatic change didn't see governmental boundaries more can we if we prevent catastrophic damage we see coming our way in oakland, california we're proud to be included in the climate champions we firmly believe that cities are a great part of that conversation and solution particularly like oakland and san francisco we know that globally the vast majority of core manages are coming from the world cities that is going to increase as populations are golden state and yet the creativity to try new things in oakland one of the things we've hope to share is our zero waste program something we believe the main contributed to our significant reduction our 9 percent in core emissions and 14 percent in consumption emissions another thing we hope to contribute to the conversation is creating a measurement of consumption go emissions to again thinking collaboratively and not only about the emissions that are coming if our city but the emissions that are caused by the con summing inside of our city even though this product was produced somewhere else and our partnership with uc berkley is setting a standard in calculating that critical consumption emission standard and, of course, we have so much to learn from all of you, we represent the main ports of entry for goods coming from asia into the united states how we manage goods movement in a quasi that didn't exacerbate climatic change is a really important conversation we hope to learn from all of you in your practices and so with that, oakland is incredibly proud to join that that initiative group of leaders united and commitment to collaboration to stop climatic change and talk about dangerous i know i get to make my donald trump joke there is nothing more dangers or dangerous than george climatic >> >> >> my name is jean alexander. i'm an attorney in the san francisco city attorney's office. i supervise the tax team, giving tax advice to the treasurer, tax collect or, drafting tax legislation. the thing i remember my mother telling me as a child is that you need to be prepared to take care of yourself and i knew that i wanted to be able to do something that i enjoyed. i didn't expect anybody to give me anything because nobody ever gave her anything and i also i always saw her fighting for the things that she wanted in life for herself and for her children. >> my name is jasmine flores. i am working as an admin assistant in the city attorney's office. i have always enjoyed the tasks that i have been given. on the days i show up and work on my own is empowering. for me, happiness in being more involved in a person-to-person interaction. my dream jobs includes being a physician, paramedic, firefighter, working with animals with the public. on a personal level with self improvement. my sister is the biggest influence in my life because she taught me to go forward with what makes you happy rather that what makes you the most money. >> i graduated from law school in 1972 at a time when there was a beginning to be an influx of women in the legal profession and tried criminal cases for about 10 years, treatment for delinquent operating programs, government budgets, analyzed fiscal legislation. i came to the san francisco city attorney's office and i have been here for about 12 years advising on tax matters. i did just about anything you can think of. some things that lawyers do and some things that lawyers don't do. >> i'm from the mission in san francisco. i have grown up there and i have lived there pretty much my whole life. living there, i do see other women, some of them older, some of them look just like me like my age and a lot of them work nanny jobs, child care jobs, retail jobs. i don't know, it seems kind of like a reminder that you are kind of lucky to be where you are, i guess. just when you haven't gone so far at all. i want them to go on maybe go on an interview that's more challenging that they think that they can't get that job. you know, just to kind of challenge and surprise themselves when they get that job and feel better. >> there had been women practicing law for many years, but there were so few of them that a lot of the issues hadn't really come into play and some of them worked out and some are still being resolved like equal pay and women in lawfirms and making sure women get fair assignments and in the decision making and working with law firms. i consider myself more of a beneficiary of all the women that fought really difficult battles along the way. >> >> >> this is the historic society commission for wednesday, june 1. please, sounds your mobile devices. when speaking before the commission if you care to state your name for the record and i will take will call at this time. >>[call of the roll] >> clerk: thank you commissioners. first on your agenda is general public comments. at this time members of the public address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission up for up to 3 min. i've no speak of cards. >> president wolfram: does any member of the public wish to make general public, and if so please come forward? >> testifier: i like to see the commission's advice on historic preservation issue. i'm doing some research on >> clerk: can you these speak into the microphone? >> testifier: i'm doing historic preservation research on this building in north beach. try put it on the overhead?'s >> president wolfram: yes >> clerk >> testifier: the time i have left, [inaudible] the factory which was built in 1946-1947 by san francisco architect actually a native of commerce oh higher. got his degree in washington state and started practicing in 1929 was martin j rest. the present st. cecilia church are building [inaudible]. i think it's the building has very high potential for being on the registry of landmarks in san francisco and the present owner, marlene-daughter of fred, who founded the company built the building is still alive. it's going to a bone of contention for almost its entire life into it went up in operation of manufacturing a see-two zone but it was declared all the legal sausage factory from the time it started running in 1940. it goes down finally in 1981. so there's been some public effort in the 80s, 81, 83 to great a special use zone within the area which is this building is actually it's directly behind the st. francis trying. so come the layout. it's right in that property from vallejo and greenstreet at 535. they bought the property from archbishop mitty as the sole corporation for the archdiocese of san francisco. the archdiocese down in palo alto and actually menlo park is doing some research for me from the die size. i look i guess and seek the commission said by someone, [inaudible] and let her know what i'm doing , but also your advice i think in bringing to the attention of the supervisors and also this commission should be for further going through research. that's all accurate >> president wolfram: thanks. we don't give advice at this hyatt hearing but you can contact the planning presentations up on the website. any other member of the public wish to make public on? seeing none, and hewitt will close general public, good >> clerk: item 1 directors announcements. >> i have nothing commissioners >> clerk: items to the mission matters >> staff: normal formal learning commission report that i to items to share with you. one is, as you are aware, the government oversight, government audit site and met after last hearing to discuss the legacy business registry program. at that hearing, the you commissioner timothy was present and she may have some comments regarding the outcome of that meeting. what we heard is that the committee has asked for an update on the program at its hearing tomorrow as well. we been in contact with regina, from the office of small business. she has no stated to me that she has seven complete applications that she will forward to us on monday. which is june 6. if she were to transmit those applications we would have to hear them at your july 6 hearing or, which because it's close to the july 4 all day, maybe cancels.. it would give her a little more time to transmit those applications if we postpone that a little bit, and schedules that hearing for the july 20 hearing. but that is at your discretion. maybe something you want to take up today. the second item is just a quick report about the departments pending budget. as you recall, the commission-this commission added one additional fte to support the legacy business registry and all of the departments ask for the preservation programming including the additional fte have remained in the mayor's budget. so, we will keep you posted as that moves through the board of supervisors and discussions there. but it looks like everything is in place for the next fiscal year. that concludes my comments. thank you. >> president wolfram: thank you. any comments or questions? moving on speaker commissioners that a place is on item 3. when the commission matters is in support and announcements >> president wolfram: no report or announcements >> clerk: item 4, consideration of adoption 4 min. for may 18 aoc meeting >> president wolfram: is any member of the public to comment on the draft meeting minutes of may 18 the architectural review committee and the regular hpc hearing? seeing none, and hearing none, we will close public comment. why have a motion to approve the minutes? >> moved and seconded. speaker than to adopt the minutes, with a may 18 architectural review committee hearing and the regular hearing, so moved commissioners that matt motion passes unanimously 7-0. that places us on item 5 commission comments and questions. >> president wolfram: commissioner matsuda >> commissioner matsuda: i comments will be brief. i just want report to the commission that i did attend last week's hearing and all the supervisors who were present were very appreciative of the commission and are just as anxious to see this program move forward as we are. >> president fong: thank you. commissioner pearlman >> commissioner pearlman: last night i got to go through the-building and if you have not seen it they did a beautiful job in the restoration and just really spectacular so it's on judah near ninth avenue so take a look. i am happy to announce that the first big event at hibernia bank with the rally for hillary clinton last week. i was there and was very amazing to be in that room with hundreds and hundreds of people , nfl like it was the 1940s and harry truman was cannot come up on the stage because of all the flags and banners and everything. anyway was very excited. thank you. >> president wolfram: great, thank you. do we have the topic of the meeting on july 6 two agreement out? >> clerk: this would be the appropriate time >> president wolfram: the only item on the agenda is the possibility that we may receive this legacy business packet. though that's not been confirmed. building there any other agenda items confirm that hearing. is that true? >> clerk: the only other item i see is the heritage conservation [inaudible]. >> president wolfram: that's in an informational review and comment >> clerk: it's just the beginning of the historic preservation element of the general plan before so i'm inclined to oppose we cancel the july 6 hearing. do we need to be that you should officially remove that from your hearing scheduled on >> president wolfram: i need a motion to remove that >> clerk: yes steve from >> clerk: then, to cancel july 6 hearing on your hearing schedule, so moved commissioners. that motion passes unanimously 7-0. >> president wolfram: commissioner hyland >> commissioner hyland: i have a disclosure and agenda item 6. ingleside presbyterian church. this is the second time it's come before us and less time i became aware during a presentation that architectural resources group,, my previous employer, and company have done a report for a gin at the time i do not understand what the extent of that was but i checked with the city attorney and that it's a pro bono evaluation, the conservation issues around the murals. the contact is done and closed, so there's no need for me to recuse myself. i just want to clarify that. >> president wolfram: thank you. >> clerk: it is nothing further we can move onto your regular counter for item 6. case number 2015 007219 third, 1345 ocean ave. the landmark designation. >> staff: good afternoon commission. shannon ferguson department of staff on behalf of susan parks. i'm here today present departments recommendation regarding limit participation of ingleside presbyterian church in its interior collage mural an artist's environment entitled the great cloud of witnesses. located at 1345 ocean ave., in the ingleside neighborhood. the building is added to the landmark designation work in inmate 2013 #staff at the heritage pro bono architectural historic officials and pro bono architectural conservatives arg began working on the project. the building is a committee for landmark status both for its architectural and artistic association. first, the church itself is architecturally significant work of master architect jesse leonard. it embodies the distinctive characteristics of the neoclassical style and a unique example of neoclassical ecclesiastical architecture in the city. architect justin leonard was well known locally for his parts as chosen as the george's artistic today the building is one of limits you extend religious structure. secondly, the church is artistically significant parts interior mural collage. the great cloud of witnesses. begin by robin gordon in 1980 a big contributions to the study of american folk art. african-american mural, the artist environment and san francisco african-american history. the great cloud of witnesses composition size location and technique used to make it unique. the overall arrangement across multiple rooms and floors the extensive size encompasses most of the churches interior and the distinctive choice of media and collage technique is unparalleled on this scale. they work in progress since 1980, the great cloud of witnesses is a rare tribute and the largest most imaginatively executed folk artist environment dedicated to religion, culture, african-american history and role models in the country. the interior characteristic features include rooms, volume and was, and staircases that were historically accessible to the public such as the lobby jim & georgia the collage mural is also considered [inaudible]is that rev. gordon has determined to be complete including all components of the mural across all services in the lobby, the jim, the obama technology center, the michael jackson, the willie brown and the legacy room. for the ordinance, "and is allowed to keep working on other rooms that not been determined complete and is a manner that is been working with that entitlement. it also states any future conservation or stabilization effort should be guided by the conditions effectively thereby arg in the california are preservation act subject to the consent of the artist rev. gordon. there's no nonpublic opposition to the landmark designation and the church's support of the designation. commissioners wolfram and hyland visited the site this morning i was met with rev. gordon and without mural work. yvonne leaves the building needs: status is wanted. donna harman recommends atc resonates designation to the board of supervisors this compose my presentation. i'm happy to answer any questions. >> president wolfram: thank you. the questions, commissioners? we will now take public comment on this item. remember the public was to comment on this and not designation? please come forward. >> testifier: i'm rolling gordon pastor of the church could oh i think the commissioners for coming out to see firsthand what is unfolding at angles side, that the community is very excited about and i really felt honored today to have you present. i want to say thank you. the wolfram thank you very much for it was an honor to be there. i never any other member of the item was to public ones item? hearing none, and seeing none, will will close public comment and bring it back to the commission. >> i move we approve this. >> second. >> president wolfram: >> clerk: thank you commissioners. there's a motion to adopt a recommendation for approval. on a motion, so moved commissioners. the motion passes unanimously. commissioners that are places on items seven for december 2015 -007181, 140 maiden ln. this is also a landmark designation. >> staff: good afternoon commissioners. shannon ferguson department staff. i'm here today to present their parts trepidation regarding a mimics to the landmark designation for 140 maiden ln. historically known as the gift shop located in the conservation district. 140 maiden was designated as landmark 72 and 1975. at the all-time leader in your features of the: with designated such as a blank wall of brick and romanesque arch. the internal circular structure is equally as significant as the exterior and as a shop it was historically public good accessible. complete level for the guggenheim museum 140 maiden ln. is the first building to be constructed oozing what frank wainwright's favorite spectral shape the spiral which dominated his work out of finally. frank wainwright is by far the most well known and influenced american art that although they produce several designs further buildings in san francisco, the bc mortgage shop is the only one realize. it is a significant and rare modern building designed by the master architect. the planning department has shared the designation report with property owners and is received one letter of support from the community member supervisor peskin is also in support of the landmark designation. commissioners wolfram and hyland visited the site this market during the site commissioners noted original light fixtures and [inaudible]. the department believes the building meets the stylish eligibility requirements and does designation is wanted without harman recommends a mimics to the designation to the board of supervisors this concludes my presentation good i'm happy to answer questions. >> president wolfram: thank you. any questions for ms. ferguson? i have a question about the light fixtures in the pneumatic two-tiered that's not currently >> staff: that's not currently listed in the designation. we do not discuss it this morning during the site visit. distort shows that the light fixtures may indeed be historic get people from these are the ones in the ceiling that are kind of what shape would you call that, spherical? actually the first floor. the upper-level lights are part of the [inaudible]. thank you. does any member of the public wish to comment on this item? please come forward. seeing none, anyone will close public comment and bring back to the commission. commissioners, comment? other comments? i'm sorry. okay. i apologize. we will reopen public comment. the 3 min. >> testifier: good afternoon on sharon slater in the senior vice president of asset management for downtown properties represent the owner of 140 maiden ln. we had a great site visit this morning and it was really good for me to know now that we are really on the same page as far as the preservation of the building. the concerns that you've expressed the same ones that we have, so that is great. my concern is that we been having some trouble with the leasing of the building. our pool of prospective tenants is fairly narrow because were little picky about who we want to go into. not everybody appreciates the history of the building. we've had some problems with deals dropping out because they're concerned about the process of getting approvals for any alterations they would like to make. granted, not able to make any alterations to the elements we talked about, but just the process of getting plans approved even within that guideline is difficult. so, we talked about potentially meeting so we can talk about specifics of what the guidelines should be for the things that would be preapproved, like the color palettes for paint and that sort of thing. we what we saw when we have a pop-up was [inaudible] is my new pff-it was my futile beautiful but the activation of the building was fantastic to see it so vibrant and full of people. we have so many request for people to visit the building. so, i would like to see it activated permanently as soon as possible. so i am hoping that you can help me smooth the way on this process so that's not a deterrent to getting the right kind of tenants we all want. thank you. >> president wolfram: thank you very much. any other member of the public wish to comment on this item? seeing none, and hearing none, will close public comments. commissioner johnck >> commissioner johnck:. those comments, have any influence on the staff recommendation, but my basic idea here is this is another remarkable building for us to endorse landmark use. so i would move to approve staff >> president wolfram: i like classic question of sector am wondering a subconscious made, whether we could administer this that would allow us to delegate to have some of the interior work, or a set of guidelines that you could meet with the property owner to discuss so they don't have to come back to the commission for doing painting or more minor work within the interior. is that something that could be included in this or how would we do with this? i do know the ministry to see a vase onset of her injury when so much. >> staff: commissioners, the-you are certainly if you're inclined to do so you could amend this ordinance to clarify what could be delegated to staff, but article 10 in article 11 already do provide a mechanism for you to delegate to us at any time. so, if we were not to take up now, after meeting with the representatives of the building and having a better understanding of what types of scopes of work they're interested in expediting, we could then come back to you at a future date with those and then at that time you could consider delegating them to us. you don't necessarily have to do as part of the delegation agreement were part of this ordinance could you can do it anytime >> president wolfram: so this be approved by the order supervisors and mayor and so at later time when you meet with the property owner we could talk about what items could be delegated. i would like to be a supple to the owner as possible. >> staff: after the meeting we would then have a better understanding of exactly what we could delegate. >> president wolfram: okay get i think that makes sense. >> i moved to approve staff recommendations before >> moved and seconded. >> president wolfram: do it that i can do is a discussion about adding the light fixtures and the pneumatic tube. which i would recommend adding with the additional the ground floor and light fixtures and the pneumatic tube. >> where is the pneumatic tube and what was it for? be wolfram it was for public processing orders and money. >> do some the sales desk area down? >> president wolfram: yes. maybe the pneumatic tube on those second ground floor not necessarily the basement location. does that make sense? >> commissioner johnck: absolutely. >> president wolfram: i think we have a motion and a second. >> clerk: very good good on a motion to adopt the recommendations for approval to the board of supervisors, as amended to include the oval like pictures on the ground floor and pneumatic tube at the ground and second levels, so moved commissioners. the motion passes unanimously, 7-0. commissioners places on item 8. december 2014-001711.. the wireless facility planning code did this is a amendment. >> staff: thank you. omar mastery on behalf of the san francisco planning department. the best before you as an item to request changes in san francisco planning code recommendations to the board of supervisors. as it relates to wireless talk mitigation services facility. otherwise known as referred to commonly as cell towers and cell antennas. within this request would be a more brought change to article 10 and 11 of the planning code. which do with certain entitlements first preservation applications peer if sfgtv could pull up the slideshow, please? so, one of the primary changes would clarify the staff can render a decision which includes approval or denial, of certain historic preservation applications. those would include the mistreated certificate of appropriateness, reminder permit to alter. currently, for example, article 10 of the planning code indicates that staff can it go. by this historic preservation commission, that can choose approve a application but [inaudible] the reason this is important is because a new state law took effect in january 2016. over two initially is a be-57. basically said for wireless facility application comes in for any city or county in california, the city does not make a decision in so many days of application being complete then it is automatically approved or deemed granted. the city would have to go to court in order to try to stop that approval from taking effect. so, in this example, one of our concerns would be the care were to submit an application for wireless facility downtown and committed building permit application and application for the mistreated certificate of appropriateness is an article can map them of tradition. one of the concerns would be a scenario where the applicant has an application complete. the shot clock the time limit within 90 days or 150 days, is ticking and counts against the city the carrier has not provided design that looks like it complies or appears to comply with the security of interior standards for treatment for historic properties or other local boulders were other guidelines with respect to historic preservation concerns. in that scenario, the staff were inclined to try to deny this facility before the automatic approval took effect, one of the challenges we face is that we didn't initially required notification labels for owners and occupants within 70 feet. back when the application was initially submitted. so the shortest demo, if you will, to get a project to hearing for denial if the carrier is not willing to make those changes in order to avoid an automatic approval. for the sake of clarity and consistency across article 10 and 11, this change would apply to all scopes of work that are delegated by this story preservation commission to departments that. so, it would include things like signage, including signage on the screen that has tenants on-site. would include roof deck as it currently does. historic alterations, both wireless facilities on rooftops as well as within the public right-of-way. since the antenna attached. by polls and transit polls and utility poles we now see in san francisco. another change would not be maybe a notable interest to the commission, but it would allow screening such as fake scrabble with the current acception from-it's from steel towers and antennas and women associate with wireless facility. were this would be of assistance as we may see as an example larger building and 6-7 stories where it exceeds the 40 foot height limit for instance down to much of the city. that building may be less intrusive in terms of the overall size of the facility being scale and context appropriate respect to the building but because of the current height limitations for screening elements, the carrier may not be able to pursue that cyprus the screen is used to stop the equipment the antennas and cabling and other appurtenances would not be an option available under the plan current planning code rules. so the ability to add screen above limits consistent with exception currently for on-screen facilities would allow staff to work with carriers and the community to find less intrusive locations especially from a scale and context perspective. however, code amendment this clip by staff would still be able to review projects with respect to design review, shed of you and city parks and prisons historic preservation review. many limits imposed by the planning commission is so, this example at the bottom of the photo, the proposed simulation, chosen design a potentially historic resource we would not consider appropriate and still maintain the ability to request that the care modified or design more appropriate for the building of the neighborhood. ms. just to wrap up, the one which provides you in the planning commission or start commission back it was on son. you provided a signed version of that. the planning commission unanimously recommended initiation of the amendment of march 17 and the scheduled adoption hearing for june 16 or any time afterwards and supervisor avalos is also sponsored the proposed amendment. with that, i'll post my presentation and be happy to answer questions. thank you. >> president wolfram: thank you. mr. find >> staff: just a follow-up on mr. mastery's comments, i just want to provide a little more clarity on what existing in the code. in terms of your process. and what this change really means for article 10 and 11. essentially, the code in terms of delegation is silent on whether or not we can disapprove entitlements and administrative entitlement. with this does it just clarifies that. so, in the case of any member of the public were this commission appealing or asking are we filing a request for hearing, all of those mechanisms still stay in place. so, as you recall, i think in the sims 2009, we've had to request for hearings. that would still be the process if the wireless carrier were neighbor felt that we approved or disapproved something in error. they could still petition this commission, or any of the members of this commission could do the same and we would schedule it at the next hearing. so, really, again, all this is doing is allowing us to disapproved something as long as you've delegated it to staff. because it's related specifically-but changes were brought upon because of this new wireless amendment, we felt though it was more responsible to broaden that still wasn't that we were just disapproving or approving wireless facilities, that we are actually using the same process for all items delegated to us. but again, if you need further clarification on that we can always walk through the code sections as well. >> president wolfram: thank you. commissioner johnck >> commissioner johnck: did you open public hearing >> president wolfram: we've not done public commented yet. >> commissioner johnck: okay can i just i'm just curious and maybe can answer more discussion after public comment, but i'm trying to understand the context of this because i've been seeing the mbta's come through in a bit looking at them. say what are the implications for historic preservation because sin there's lots. there's a lot of these. it's a documented many years ago when al gore had wire american we were laying fiber optic cable all over the phrase is using this is phase 2 these kinds of wireless enhancements structures so to speak. i am just like your comments about -i've not seen anything that would be particularly obtrusive, knowing what the purpose of these are. and that kind of thing. although, i be interested to see if you need further scrutiny on these or if there's not too much-not that many issues with these? do you have enough leeway to approve things as you been doing? or do you need to mark? >> staff: under the current process, yes. i would just add the czar and omar can chime in on this as well. these are very time-consuming applications. there's a lot of back-and-forth that has to occur designwise between the wireless carriers and staff. they are generally open to that conversation, but it takes a number of rounds of revisions to get to a point where we feel that it doesn't sort of overwhelmed the roofline or different since at&t was going to install something, then verizon and t-mobile don't come and try to do the same thing and then we have an antenna farm on the roof. so, because of that-because there is a diminished sort of mechanism to work with because of this new clock, we felt it was necessary just as a safeguard measure to have this option to deny something. it's purely the carriers in action on responding to us that could require us to approve it. that was when of our main concerns. >> staff: if i may clarify, the federal and state law are required it has to approve facilities necessarily could push us to make a decision faster. the process of the aco will is a definite advantage for the individual specially the sequencer project inevitable for article 10 and 11 entitlement as was the planning commission entitlement to those constrained time frames within 90 days for the location can be a real challenge. with the victory are seeing for the [inaudible] are mostly modifications. they're mostly dismisses where carrier has antennas 10 years further swapping out and we had varying degrees of success. getting those antennas off the primary side where they should not have been approved using it when we do not knows as much. it's a constant sort of discussion with both the carriers trying to move equipment, mood facilities with the property owners. the sometime questioned why the changes occurring. this often pieces where a staff were talking to the property owner st. rashly asking for this change because it week is beneficial to the neighborhood and building as well as in terms of enhancing its own. >> president wolfram: thank you. commissioner hasz >> commissioner hasz: to question. when we have the hansen street probably two years ago and we completely asked for redesign our calls. they look great. did that come because of the historic district or why? adjusting market st., van, right because i can to >> testifier: that was a first for a small. city-owned before that we've only seen wireless facilities on with utility poles the city does not open. those are the most controversial often big and bulky. reddit the bedroom items. we seen a lot more support, if you will, with respect to small styles that can be 40. so verizon came forward the design four 320 small cells initially in soma northeast of the city to attach two small boxes an antenna. we got to design many neighbors about reset it looks pretty darn good it's a fairly unintrusive, and susan were now seen t-mobile, copying our design. seeing att and looking possibly going, that same path and we think it's a good sort of starting point. >> commissioner hasz: all that stuff comes up under this 98, and? >> testifier: for brand-new site it's 150 days. however, the city owns the assets, likely on the parties actually the sole site is going on, we own the steel plate welcome those do not apply because a property owner we have more discretion we can say that, but start by because we be acting as in her capacity as a property owner of the permitting agency. we face a real challenge to be the new site is on private property. the code location is at 90 days on private property in the antennas attached to the existing wooden poles on by say pacific gas & electric. >> commissioner hasz: think the clarifying. that helps out. by second question would oh my second question my comments and would be ongoing about height limit for screening. i think it's kind of a tricky thing. and to meet you must be-i get worried saying [inaudible] to me that season on a restriction so currently on on-screen antennas is very certain height allowed to go? is a case-by-case basis? >> testifier: there's no either mr. unscreened antennas and towers. rather approved unscreened 10 is and towers for cell phones first. they generally don't need to be that high. >> commissioner hasz: i would just love to see some kind of limiting language. on height. >> staff: minors in that provision is that was applied to situations where the building is already overnight limit? speeds >> testifier: it be broad-based. imbued reviewed by exceeding a height. for example in the bayview if the carrier came forward and want to put up fake water tower on the site would normally be-if on a rooftop permitted because it's 25 feet above the height limit but the ground for the fake water tower could automatically require planning commission reviewed and will be subject to any limitations posed by the planning commission specified limit included within the scope of the application. >> commissioner hasz: on top mess of that, under this change would not go to any commission, right? that's what were talking about. doing it so you can take your this in-house. so, to me am happy to give that approval, but i'm really not-i'm leery of giving anything without limiting that height limit. >> testifier: is a qualified. in any zoning district that's not cdm or conduct searches in cedar six, r districts, all they recorded the planning commission and they have. so we check there if you appeared in the downtown, for instance without via any public review normally, if you can exceed more than 25 feet above the roof height you're already can be taken to require planning commission conditional use authorization and so there is sort of >> i've seen a couple of these installations downtown on rooftops and only 15 feet tall maximum. you adjusting to me that should be a number that should be in the. >> i'm wondering if we could get this works or not you let me know, god limitations on the roof you can do certain things about the height limit and the code right now like elevator penthouses and stare penthouses and there are limitations. on how much of the roof they can cover and how high those can be. it seems like that would be a logical we could use those same limits. i don't know if that works, omar? >> testifier: that's what we are currently good reason since it is a template height exception for pipes we've applied to determination by the zone administrator. for fake elevator and house is only 16 foot height limit if you're in a sony district that's come i'm sorry, a high distance over 65 feet. so that 16 foot exception reply as well for something that makes a fake 0v penthouse. which generally gives the challenge though. it can mimic in elevator penthouses give you near the edge of the roof generally. doesn't look like it belongs there. so you put the elevator penthouses in the middle of the roof and you have 16 foot to work with, it's only 16 feet above the height limit, the building rac site limit you don't have as much to work with. so that site not mean up the bible and we have less ability to encourage the carrier to move further back onto the-further back away from the primary façade. >> commissioner hasz: because i help with these regulations the signal goes out and a certain dive pattern just can't make it over the building down onto the street. >> testifier: to restate the carriers are tied up push to as close as the roof is possible. this of the panel's not for every type of wireless disorder that odyssey this most challenging ubiquitous facility insulation. so the comp demise has been get a one-to-one setback. for every foot of height above the parapet of the roofline, i move the antenna and screening back 1 foot away from the façade so doesn't appear to impose and dominate the roof line. >> president wolfram: commissioner bauman >> commissioner pearlman: it seems to me the staff in general is fairly conservative about anything that isn't specifically in the code so things like not having a limit. i would trust the staff were specimen comes to historic buildings to be quite certain sect about something being 30 feet up and very visible, and would either deny or would then have a process through as mr. mastery said the things that would need to go to the planning commission or come here. so, i don't have that particular fear that something is going to sneak through that would be so obtrusive.. it seems that the staff would catch something like that quite quickly. and would work with the carrier to deal with it. speed >> president wolfram: commissioner hasz >> commissioner hasz: in hearing talking about once one that starts making sense that it's a limiting factor. that sounds good. if that's not in their written, maybe it should be. maybe i guide you been using but maybe that should be here starbase standard. 121. >> president wolfram: >> staff: at this time with a public comments. does any member of the public was to make comment on this item we pick if so, these come forward. you will have 3 min. >> testifier: my name is another james. it sounds like something that i am having a problem with my community. i'm not sure why but anyway, ipg and he has a hole in my backyard in the back of our property, and always telecommunication wires are going to that. but, at the same time, since they put it in they say they have a light easement to the property. but, cars is the easement to my neighbor in that. but now cars are wider and bigger there's only 15 inches so nobody can get through that-descartes or station wagon can't get through that and i asked them, with a move the poll they said they have a right to be there, but instead of them going back to her property, they stopped in front of my property and blocked my garage. so i'm just saying, this can be a problem and whether, like you limit it to so many years, i think it's a good idea to take a new look at that but, right now, i don't know what this is related to were not but lily is a problem because there's seven houses that are connected to that poll with electricity, as well as the wiring for their telecommunication and what have you. so, anyway, it does have an effect. the other thing i want to say, thank you for voting for rev. gordon because it is my community and we have use that and i thank you very much. thank. >> president wolfram: thank you. any other member of the public was to comment on this item? seeing none, and hearing none, will close public comment and bring it back to the commission did commissioners hamilton asked to adopt a resolution recommending approval. commissioner hasz >> commissioner hasz: i do want to move to approve that last comment, designer; and, but for the decision coming out currently from our department just looking forward 10 years that we have some standards. the only reason i bring that up and kept bringing it up. but otherwise, yes, i moved to approve >> president wolfram: stirfried >> staff: to appoint accreditation based on commissioner hasz is common. with a desire to include women that resolution because remember, this is review and comment zero comments we forwarded to the planning commission and the board of supervisors. the got something in there at all lines up the hpc desires some language that talks about a limiting factor, whether a not to exceed, or some other existing policy that the department uses just demonstrating that these should not be the carriers should not have unlimited access to height. >> president wolfram: commissioner johnck >> commissioner johnck: i was also interested in this issue of screening and exceeding height limits the kind of thing. so i would be interested in that to suggest that the code be amended to include a basic standard. such as we talked about. >> president wolfram: commissioner hasz >> commissioner hasz: >> testifier: 121 sounds good to me. she will give a comment on this >> testifier: each of the standards runs of two different technologies. for instance if we make a broad-based exemption to include wireless than total, there's some wireless facilities that are simply antenna the size of the with of my pinky. he may not have any interest for practical day by day standpoint of limiting the height of that within 10 in the middle-of-the-road in which i do limit based on these different metrics, there's going to be a larger exceptions will be going challenge in order to review. so if i could offer i think the 25 foot height sort of trigger for those providers leverage in terms of same to the carrier, if you go that high, you have to go back for the planning commission and eight limitations imposed by them. >> commissioner hasz: i'm sorry but 25 is so high at the age of any building. right? i mean were talking 16 foot from elevator penthouse. that's never the edge of the building like we were saying. it's just, i just will, were not doing this commonly. i just worry about it being read between the lines in the city getting sued by some carrier saying i want 25. he did i get that and you know what i mean? be bumped heads with them this commission on the sanford street now and again on the market street now and they were not as bendable is your experiencing. at the commission level. so i can imagine sometimes it's a fight. i just look, we push backs up all the time that this commission but it's only a store building but to me every building should not have stopped jammed up to the front of it. we also don't have a with. find them okay maybe we have 16 foot height but we make the width of the whole building. it just feels a little loose. >> testifier: if i could clarify, the intent is having basic language is also cover things that ought to be on rooftops. for instance, without carrier proposes a tree at a along the freeway on the 280? get to consider the structure that's a height limitations were part one supported by clocktower that also has cell antennas in there. so we try to create a simple baseline recognizing it preserves our ability to say no. the other item i would point out, there often are instances among site visitors were up there on the rooftops with engineers and rosina try mine were kerry is not going top of the roof try to get ui because what happens they start to interfere with own network chemistry. they want to contain the signal within a lower area. so not seen carrier summary try to get more height because that defeats the purpose of what they're trying to accomplish when it comes to the cell antennas specifically. >> president wolfram: i think what you are saying is that you don't want to codify the one-to-one because there's a lot of extenuating circumstances and unattended consequently the way to incorporate into the guidelines as opposed to the legislation? >> testifier: we can cut a fight into the guidelines. we provided >> president wolfram: if it's in the code then- >> commissioner hasz: i get you. just something in there. probably the with like no more than 25% of the width of the building or something. you know? >> president wolfram: commissioner johnck >> commissioner johnck: no, i'm done but i agree with putting in the guidelines. i hear what you're saying. >> testifier: i would agree the guidelines would be the appropriate place to put that in. >> president wolfram: okay so i moved to approve the changes. the set was that san francisco san francisco you have a conversation with a woman who spoke earlier? >> clerk: if there's nothing further there's a motion seconded to adopt the recommendation for approval and the motion, so moves commissioners. the motion passes unanimously 7-0. that concludes our hearing today. >> president wolfram: the hearing is adjourned. >>[gavel] >>[adjournment] >> as a society we've basically failed big portion of our 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