speak should call 415-655-0001. again the meeting id is 24840 91719. press pound and pound abegin. again. if you have not done so press star 3 to be added to the queue. madam chair. >> thank you so much. we are happy to be here today. it was a long time coming. it's such an honor to work with you president walton and the effort with so many of you young and adult leaders that are here today. we are so excited to hear from you. i'd like to give a special thanks to tracy brown who is a leader with president walton on the effort. carolyn that started off with mike at the time. when we started this effort and with nicky who is now moved to my office continuing that work. carolyn continues that from the public service office. i'll turn it over to president walton to begin. it really makes a difference to see so many young faces in the chamber. i'd like to thank everyone part of making this a special meaning time. your leadership is extra ordinary, we extra. we can't wait to hear from you today. thank you everyone for being here this afternoon. we apologize we did run over. it allowed a opportunity for more young people to be here. most of you have been through the journey with us. even though we didn't reach closure like we wanted to in december of 2021. we are moving forward. there is a lot of positive things to report as we continue. so, i'll just start off by saying the last 20 years crime has steadily declined across the country and san francisco and san diego. this is due to new justice reforms and how we view youth. the city of san francisco has been apart of this. everyone deserves to have someone to believe in them. they are making changes err day and impacting the live of the youth. the steady decline is attributed to many of the visionary programs we launched in partnership with community agencies and various departments. i'd like to take the time to thank all of you for your work. as we know in 2019 the board of supervisors passed an ordnance to require the city to close juvenile hall. the work was moved over to the human rights commission to take the lead and worked with consultants and advisory work group to come up with a list for the board to adopt. today, you'll hear from the city department. their input on the recommendations. they have been asked to present to us how their department works with juvenile department population. they will have 5 minutes to presentment of course we'll hold questions until the end unless it's something for clarity. i'd like to thank dr. cheryl davis that close juvenile hall work group. all of our community partners and young people who have been fighting to make this happen and work towards the reforms we would like to see in san francisco. we have a lot of work to do and we didn't meet our closure date. i hope the justice reform work will move forward while we work on getting a new facility. at the end of today's meeting we will ask the department of real estate to look for facilities and opportunity for us as we talk about the closure movement. keeping in mind there are obstacles in particular with what the courts want and as we talk about having a place for young people. with that, i do want to one, again, thank the human rights commission director davis and ask her to come up and say a few words. then we'll talk about how we'll hear from the city departments for the rest of the hearing. dr. davis. >> thank you so much for this opportunity to say a few words. i'd like to thank you for your leadership and listening to community when you started this. i know some people were good to see ki today. i know they were instrument aland on the ground moving this forward. i'm great for for the process and the folks that participated. i think the challenge sitting before you now is moving it forward and how to be respectful and responsive as we figure out what happened the need should be addressed. we are talking about realtime and the fact that folks are still being funneled through what we refer to as the school to prison pipeline and elementary school. it's playing out realtime for us right now in the schools and tension that we have. the question is what are we going to do, right. so, if there is nobody being referred to juvenile hall then essentially it gets shutdown. what are the things we need to do right now. i just, i'm basically on a very personal level begging we notary to do what we have been doing because clearly that hasn't worked. we should look at what comprehensive sieve services look like. there are congress veryisations and programs funneled through departments already i have a person in mind and we spoke about the supervisor that we worked with and on the verge of being placed in a place we didn't want him to go if we didn't have the other strategies it doesn't matter if we didn't commit to doing better and different, we'll do the same thing. i'm grateful for the process and this time right here. i'm hopeful we'll acchallengely do what kneads to be done to make the change and see what we want to see happen. thank you for your courage. now let's take it to the next level. >> thank you dr. davis. as statele earlier we will hear from a few city departments playing a role in the work we will first hear from the police department lou dennant frost will answer questions. good to see everyone and ask away. >> lieutenant frost are you there? we presented the department with questions prior that i believe some answers were submitted. i can ask the questions or did you have a presentation or what you submit. >> we have answers, i can bring that upright now. so, the department has been working in conjunction with the huckberry services. there is a plan for most of the juveniles. if we didn't have a plan in place they will have to go through the system available and that's the criminal justice system. it's pretty formal. it can be problematic. we are partnering with huckberry. we are trying to funnel them to diversion to lead to more positive outcomes for the youth we are dealing with. regarding the recommendation we are reviewing charging decisions. we recognize this has an impact on the decisions and actions they deck dictate w they interact with youth. this is covered in the report. it's straightforward with no room for interpretation or additional analysis. it states robbery is the fa lonnous taking from his person or presence and accomplished by means of force. they are unable to ignore the elements of the crime at the point of contact regardless of the severity of the injury or there was no injury to the victim. those under the age of 17 or younger are prohibited. they are detained and not free to leave. they must call an attorney. the public defender hotline and must offer the youth the ability to speak with a guardian before any type of questioning can occur or conversation. they limit the information a officer to get to come up with an accusation. the department is committed to work with city partners to support to work and implement the change san san franciscs would like to see. regarding the issue of a written statement of problem able cause there are forms to the justice center that require the circumstances of the contact with the youth and behavior and conduct they justify the arrest and transport to j.j.c. included in the admission fortunately to provide during the process of the youth. this process is in place. they can only make arrests based on probable cause and they are included in a section of the admission form. we are doing that. they should implement policies to guide the immediate review of the problem probablee written by law enforcement. accomplishing this directive is not in the per view of the police department. this could be something the juvenile probation department would have to work with the district's attorney office on. i know for adults, all of our reports are shared that's not something the police department would have to implement but other city agencies to accomplish that. >> lieutenant frost, before we get into the weeds. i have a few questions and if we have follow up we'll bring those questions up as well. who has been in charge of diversion works at the police department. >> we have an executive sponsor commander walsh. he's over seeing with ourdy our department legal council. we discussed diversion in the working group. others have weighted in and subject matter incompetency experts on juveniles and policy. as well as commander moran. a lot of times juveniles are victims. >> what's the total budget allocated to serve youth on probation or for the diversion works within the police department? >> i don't have the number for what our proportion is devoted to that. the diversion works, if we wantner with an outside agency like huckberry i'm not sure if the police department is providing those funds for huckberry. i don't have that offhand. if you could it would be great to get the information of number of staff and those dedicated to the works and what the salaries look like. that would be helpful as we go forward. my last question, in term of this, what location do the police utilize to do diversion work? do you go to huckberry house or is there space at any of your stations. where is the work taking place. >> well, transport used to take to huckberry facilities. i'm drawing a blank. >> huckberry. >> they are the police department identify youth that can be diverted and they are handled by huckberry once we have handed them off. so, we are able to due vert those we can. a after the arrest or contact happens for a violation that could be diverted. it's not just the police with huckberry but jjd and jhl as well. we have interacts that are cast yule and consent al. we have so many interacting with youth. what do you do after 5:00 p.m. >> when we have enforcement interaction with youth remain the same. it's a little bit later. we work very late hours. ser taney auto not business hours. closer to midnight. we will contact the jjc and speak to personnel and we'll give them a rundown of what the enforcement contact we have with youth is. if they are under arrest and then they will make the determination if they must be admitted into jjc or released to a parent or guardian or other responsible adult. the contacts are the same. if they are closed it rolls to the jjc once closed for the day. >> thank you, luteinant lieutenant frost. >> thank you, sir. >> we'll hear from the district attorneydistrict attorney's office. we have casey to presentment. >> perfect. >> good afternoon and thank you for having us. just going to go ahead and respond to the questions asked and then i can answer any other questions that you might have. so, to begin with the total budget allocated to our office to severing youth on probation and working with youth on probation is 1,893,000. that includes managing attorney, three assistant district attorneydistrict district attorneydistrict attorneys, one victim advocate, a d.a. investigator, and percentage of a second victim advocate who is our human trafficking advocate that works with youth that might answer the system but didn't want to learn them as human trafficking. as well as forced labor trafficking. currently, there are no no vacancies. we didn't have a contract with any other agencies for the work. i did encounter youth in the divert ingredient programs . . . >> before i start, are there any questions with regard to what i just stated? >> just a quick question you may not be answer right now. what is the entire district attorney budget? >> that is and i can not answer at this time. >> and i did find out and so there is also a question with well being advocates and if we have any with severe trauma and those of us who are in juvenile court every day can see that is 80% or higher and too often a youth is in the system without addressing those things. as a system, we also cooperate to con in late case management and it is important to recognize the mental health treatment and in the form of well beinged a voe t kas and also references the district attorney's unaccompanied children's assistance program which serves unaccompanied minor, many of which have experienced trauma in the home countries and as well as on the journey here. we partnered with stanford university to develop the art therapy program to address the trauma that the u-cap youth hold so with the bilingual kids and with regard to shared leadership, we also think that that is a good idea. san francisco is the very unique devoted to working with at-risk youth and system involved youth and have been around and many youth succeed because of the relationship with his or her case manager and sometimes people bring up the fear of duplicating services but the truth is a lot of youth coming into the courts who are actually placed and probation are very high needs and to have comprehensive services isn't nice to have but is serious so with with regard to family-based services is good and as much as possible now, we try to keep youth in the community and the youth are able to applied by the law and stay out of trouble in the community and thrive in the community. and programs like dtap have existed for many years also and have a navigator that excesses and develop case plans and the problem is that they are underrer sourced and the staff are underpaid and we really do need to re-invest in these resources. thank you. >> thank you. any questions, chair? >> thank you so much, casey. and now we will hear from our public defender's office and do have patty lee who is in the chamber and the working group. i have a power point and that my wonderful larry robert who is at the office downtown can put it on the screen. >> through the chair, you will see a button on the top right corner and click on share and click on that. >> we can see it. thank you for sponsors this and continuing this amazing, incredible journey with all of us and with folks that i see in the audience today. to what we do, the public defender units provied representation and social work advocacy to currently 330 clients youth serve and we project that approximately 400 clients in the next year with extended foster care with ab12 cases which is the largest population in the juvenile justice system and where do we serve our community? we are at the jooufshl justice center on woodside avenue and the be magic program and the director here in the western edition. and how do we al gait our budget and staff? the total budget is approximately 385,162. it is approximately 9% of the total public defender budget for magic programs and the youth defender unit and the total number of staff is 14 and we have one social worker vacancy and in the magic programs we have subcontracts and primarily flow from the bayview magic program and third street youth clinic and clinic food security is 72,250. the park and rec 131,200. and the contigo bayview co-op food security program 19, 500. to go to the more salient questions which is what do you think about the wellness advocate. and why? we have expanded our own model of holistic representation with the addition of social works and defend in court with the well being of youth and families in the communities. we know it works. we have been doing this for decade which is leads to successful outcomes resulting in more youth and diversion, restoretive justice programs and early tem nation from probation and most importantly, leading to healthy lives and families which promotes public safety. we know that the wellness model results in de-incarceration. today 11 youth in custody. this is monumental. for the past several weeks we have no girls in custody. i with will say of the 11 youth in custody, only two are public defender clients. the social work advocacy that we provide to every public defender client from the very time they touch the system until they leave the system, i believe is a major reason and we have so few public defender youth in juvenile hall today. we have been approached by community members to lead the wellness advocacy program. magic is first created in 2004 to prevent youth from entering the system. with the impact model over 100 community partners. we look forward to collaborating with you and the community to develop this concept. family based services. to me this is a no brainer and we support community-based services. one of the goals and values of the juvenile hall report is to keep youth at home with the family where is they want to be and have the best opportunity to thrive. the program should be based in the community where the youth live, involved a voe t kas and service providers who have the lived experience similar to those of your families. to be willing to meet the youth and families and provide the individualized support. a constant refrain from the meeting is to provide flexible funding with a transformative approach to shift funding from agencies to the families and communities that we serve. and on the issue of shared leadership, i enthusiastically support this. with closing juvenile hall, we need to have systems in place and shared leadership came up frequently in the closed juvenile hall meetings and listening sessions. community-based organizations should not be at the beck and call of counselors and probation. for youth in detention, community-based programs should be permitted to work with the youth while in school and during the waking hours. cbos should have equal investment and time support and resources to work with youth in any noninstitutional home life fail that we build and have parity and pay for good quality advocates inside and more importantly outside of any institution. this is not a new concept of shared leadership in los angeles and california and across the nation hoping to close their juvenile halls and are looking at us to take the lead and i am including the audience here and forward thinking and proactive. i say let's do this right. i know we can and i know we can and we will with the incredible vision and support and effort. i am committed to working closely with you until we shut it down. >> thank you. >> just one question. just for my clarity. did you say increases with youth and the system and number will increase because of the number of use in extended foster care? >> right now we have seen a reduction in the number of youth that are leave foster care are entitled to receive ongoing benefits so that they can live excellently and many are outside of san francisco. it is a voluntary program. for, i believe, for my office, we probably have about 60 clients in extended foster care and who are vulnerable and homeless without any resource. we have been working with the courts and community partners and n funders to secure general income to follow those youth, but i want to emphasize that one of the strongest recommendations is having flexible funding to follow all the youth and families. and part of the ordinance is to reallocate gunding from budgets and the closure of juvenile hall to the community. so that we can provide that funding. >> do you feel any questions, chair ronen? >> first of all, thank you for all of your work and chairing this committee. it was a labor of love and difficult work. >> it was difficult work but committed to seeing through to the end. >> absolutely. i heard you won't retire until juvenile hall is closed. >> that is correct. so you will be seeing me around if a little while longer. >> that is a conflict of interest. we want to keep you, but i get it. so if the public defender through the manager or the office itself ran this wellness program, how many koord naytors or advocates do you think you would need to properly serve the youth. that is the good question to follow the youth from the very moment that he or she stepped in to this system. and frankly this, applies to youth on diversion as well as mentioned by the officer frost so if youth were diverted, we could have