speak should call 415-655-0001. again the meeting id is 24840 91719. press pound and pound abegin. again. if you have not done so press star 3 to be added to the queue. madam chair. >> thank you so much. we are happy to be here today. it was a long time coming. it's such an honor to work with you president walton and the effort with so many of you young and adult leaders that are here today. we are so excited to hear from you. i'd like to give a special thanks to tracy brown who is a leader with president walton on the effort. carolyn that started off with mike at the time. when we started this effort and with nicky who is now moved to my office continuing that work. carolyn continues that from the public service office. i'll turn it over to president walton to begin. it really makes a difference to see so many young faces in the chamber. i'd like to thank everyone part of making this a special meaning time. your leadership is extra ordinary, we extra. we can't wait to hear from you today. thank you everyone for being here this afternoon. we apologize we did run over. it allowed a opportunity for more young people to be here. most of you have been through the journey with us. even though we didn't reach closure like we wanted to in december of 2021. we are moving forward. there is a lot of positive things to report as we continue. so, i'll just start off by saying the last 20 years crime has steadily declined across the country and san francisco and san diego. this is due to new justice reforms and how we view youth. the city of san francisco has been apart of this. everyone deserves to have someone to believe in them. they are making changes err day and impacting the live of the youth. the steady decline is attributed to many of the visionary programs we launched in partnership with community agencies and various departments. i'd like to take the time to thank all of you for your work. as we know in 2019 the board of supervisors passed an ordnance to require the city to close juvenile hall. the work was moved over to the human rights commission to take the lead and worked with consultants and advisory work group to come up with a list for the board to adopt. today, you'll hear from the city department. their input on the recommendations. they have been asked to present to us how their department works with juvenile department population. they will have 5 minutes to presentment of course we'll hold questions until the end unless it's something for clarity. i'd like to thank dr. cheryl davis that close juvenile hall work group. all of our community partners and young people who have been fighting to make this happen and work towards the reforms we would like to see in san francisco. we have a lot of work to do and we didn't meet our closure date. i hope the justice reform work will move forward while we work on getting a new facility. at the end of today's meeting we will ask the department of real estate to look for facilities and opportunity for us as we talk about the closure movement. keeping in mind there are obstacles in particular with what the courts want and as we talk about having a place for young people. with that, i do want to one, again, thank the human rights commission director davis and ask her to come up and say a few words. then we'll talk about how we'll hear from the city departments for the rest of the hearing. dr. davis. >> thank you so much for this opportunity to say a few words. i'd like to thank you for your leadership and listening to community when you started this. i know some people were good to see ki today. i know they were instrument aland on the ground moving this forward. i'm great for for the process and the folks that participated. i think the challenge sitting before you now is moving it forward and how to be respectful and responsive as we figure out what happened the need should be addressed. we are talking about realtime and the fact that folks are still being funneled through what we refer to as the school to prison pipeline and elementary school. it's playing out realtime for us right now in the schools and tension that we have. the question is what are we going to do, right. so, if there is nobody being referred to juvenile hall then essentially it gets shutdown. what are the things we need to do right now. i just, i'm basically on a very personal level begging we notary to do what we have been doing because clearly that hasn't worked. we should look at what comprehensive sieve services look like. there are congress veryisations and programs funneled through departments already i have a person in mind and we spoke about the supervisor that we worked with and on the verge of being placed in a place we didn't want him to go if we didn't have the other strategies it doesn't matter if we didn't commit to doing better and different, we'll do the same thing. i'm grateful for the process and this time right here. i'm hopeful we'll acchallengely do what kneads to be done to make the change and see what we want to see happen. thank you for your courage. now let's take it to the next level. >> thank you dr. davis. as statele earlier we will hear from a few city departments playing a role in the work we will first hear from the police department lou dennant frost will answer questions. good to see everyone and ask away. >> lieutenant frost are you there? we presented the department with questions prior that i believe some answers were submitted. i can ask the questions or did you have a presentation or what you submit. >> we have answers, i can bring that upright now. so, the department has been working in conjunction with the huckberry services. there is a plan for most of the juveniles. if we didn't have a plan in place they will have to go through the system available and that's the criminal justice system. it's pretty formal. it can be problematic. we are partnering with huckberry. we are trying to funnel them to diversion to lead to more positive outcomes for the youth we are dealing with. regarding the recommendation we are reviewing charging decisions. we recognize this has an impact on the decisions and actions they deck dictate w they interact with youth. this is covered in the report. it's straightforward with no room for interpretation or additional analysis. it states robbery is the fa lonnous taking from his person or presence and accomplished by means of force. they are unable to ignore the elements of the crime at the point of contact regardless of the severity of the injury or there was no injury to the victim. those under the age of 17 or younger are prohibited. they are detained and not free to leave. they must call an attorney. the public defender hotline and must offer the youth the ability to speak with a guardian before any type of questioning can occur or conversation. they limit the information a officer to get to come up with an accusation. the department is committed to work with city partners to support to work and implement the change san san franciscs would like to see. regarding the issue of a written statement of problem able cause there are forms to the justice center that require the circumstances of the contact with the youth and behavior and conduct they justify the arrest and transport to j.j.c. included in the admission fortunately to provide during the process of the youth. this process is in place. they can only make arrests based on probable cause and they are included in a section of the admission form. we are doing that. they should implement policies to guide the immediate review of the problem probablee written by law enforcement. accomplishing this directive is not in the per view of the police department. this could be something the juvenile probation department would have to work with the district's attorney office on. i know for adults, all of our reports are shared that's not something the police department would have to implement but other city agencies to accomplish that. >> lieutenant frost, before we get into the weeds. i have a few questions and if we have follow up we'll bring those questions up as well. who has been in charge of diversion works at the police department. >> we have an executive sponsor commander walsh. he's over seeing with ourdy our department legal council. we discussed diversion in the working group. others have weighted in and subject matter incompetency experts on juveniles and policy. as well as commander moran. a lot of times juveniles are victims. >> what's the total budget allocated to serve youth on probation or for the diversion works within the police department? >> i don't have the number for what our proportion is devoted to that. the diversion works, if we wantner with an outside agency like huckberry i'm not sure if the police department is providing those funds for huckberry. i don't have that offhand. if you could it would be great to get the information of number of staff and those dedicated to the works and what the salaries look like. that would be helpful as we go forward. my last question, in term of this, what location do the police utilize to do diversion work? do you go to huckberry house or is there space at any of your stations. where is the work taking place. >> well, transport used to take to huckberry facilities. i'm drawing a blank. >> huckberry. >> they are the police department identify youth that can be diverted and they are handled by huckberry once we have handed them off. so, we are able to due vert those we can. a after the arrest or contact happens for a violation that could be diverted. it's not just the police with huckberry but jjd and jhl as well. we have interacts that are cast yule and consent al. we have so many interacting with youth. what do you do after 5:00 p.m. >> when we have enforcement interaction with youth remain the same. it's a little bit later. we work very late hours. ser taney auto not business hours. closer to midnight. we will contact the jjc and speak to personnel and we'll give them a rundown of what the enforcement contact we have with youth is. if they are under arrest and then they will make the determination if they must be admitted into jjc or released to a parent or guardian or other responsible adult. the contacts are the same. if they are closed it rolls to the jjc once closed for the day. >> thank you, luteinant lieutenant frost. >> thank you, sir. >> we'll hear from the district attorneydistrict attorney's office. we have casey to presentment. >> perfect. >> good afternoon and thank you for having us. just going to go ahead and respond to the questions asked and then i can answer any other questions that you might have. so, to begin with the total budget allocated to our office to severing youth on probation and working with youth on probation is 1,893,000. that includes managing attorney, three assistant district attorneydistrict district attorneydistrict attorneys, one victim advocate, a d.a. investigator, and percentage of a second victim advocate who is our human trafficking advocate that works with youth that might answer the system but didn't want to learn them as human trafficking. as well as forced labor trafficking. currently, there are no no vacancies. we didn't have a contract with any other agencies for the work. i did encounter youth in the divert ingredient programs . . . >> before i start, are there any questions with regard to what i just stated? >> just a quick question you may not be answer right now. what is the entire district attorney budget? >> that is and i can not answer at this time. >> and i did find out and so there is also a question with well being advocates and if we have any with severe trauma and those of us who are in juvenile court every day can see that is 80% or higher and too often a youth is in the system without addressing those things. as a system, we also cooperate to con in late case management and it is important to recognize the mental health treatment and in the form of well beinged a voe t kas and also references the district attorney's unaccompanied children's assistance program which serves unaccompanied minor, many of which have experienced trauma in the home countries and as well as on the journey here. we partnered with stanford university to develop the art therapy program to address the trauma that the u-cap youth hold so with the bilingual kids and with regard to shared leadership, we also think that that is a good idea. san francisco is the very unique devoted to working with at-risk youth and system involved youth and have been around and many youth succeed because of the relationship with his or her case manager and sometimes people bring up the fear of duplicating services but the truth is a lot of youth coming into the courts who are actually placed and probation are very high needs and to have comprehensive services isn't nice to have but is serious so with with regard to family-based services is good and as much as possible now, we try to keep youth in the community and the youth are able to applied by the law and stay out of trouble in the community and thrive in the community. and programs like dtap have existed for many years also and have a navigator that excesses and develop case plans and the problem is that they are underrer sourced and the staff are underpaid and we really do need to re-invest in these resources. thank you. >> thank you. any questions, chair? >> thank you so much, casey. and now we will hear from our public defender's office and do have patty lee who is in the chamber and the working group. i have a power point and that my wonderful larry robert who is at the office downtown can put it on the screen. >> through the chair, you will see a button on the top right corner and click on share and click on that. >> we can see it. thank you for sponsors this and continuing this amazing, incredible journey with all of us and with folks that i see in the audience today. to what we do, the public defender units provied representation and social work advocacy to currently 330 clients youth serve and we project that approximately 400 clients in the next year with extended foster care with ab12 cases which is the largest population in the juvenile justice system and where do we serve our community? we are at the jooufshl justice center on woodside avenue and the be magic program and the director here in the western edition. and how do we al gait our budget and staff? the total budget is approximately 385,162. it is approximately 9% of the total public defender budget for magic programs and the youth defender unit and the total number of staff is 14 and we have one social worker vacancy and in the magic programs we have subcontracts and primarily flow from the bayview magic program and third street youth clinic and clinic food security is 72,250. the park and rec 131,200. and the contigo bayview co-op food security program 19, 500. to go to the more salient questions which is what do you think about the wellness advocate. and why? we have expanded our own model of holistic representation with the addition of social works and defend in court with the well being of youth and families in the communities. we know it works. we have been doing this for decade which is leads to successful outcomes resulting in more youth and diversion, restoretive justice programs and early tem nation from probation and most importantly, leading to healthy lives and families which promotes public safety. we know that the wellness model results in de-incarceration. today 11 youth in custody. this is monumental. for the past several weeks we have no girls in custody. i with will say of the 11 youth in custody, only two are public defender clients. the social work advocacy that we provide to every public defender client from the very time they touch the system until they leave the system, i believe is a major reason and we have so few public defender youth in juvenile hall today. we have been approached by community members to lead the wellness advocacy program. magic is first created in 2004 to prevent youth from entering the system. with the impact model over 100 community partners. we look forward to collaborating with you and the community to develop this concept. family based services. to me this is a no brainer and we support community-based services. one of the goals and values of the juvenile hall report is to keep youth at home with the family where is they want to be and have the best opportunity to thrive. the program should be based in the community where the youth live, involved a voe t kas and service providers who have the lived experience similar to those of your families. to be willing to meet the youth and families and provide the individualized support. a constant refrain from the meeting is to provide flexible funding with a transformative approach to shift funding from agencies to the families and communities that we serve. and on the issue of shared leadership, i enthusiastically support this. with closing juvenile hall, we need to have systems in place and shared leadership came up frequently in the closed juvenile hall meetings and listening sessions. community-based organizations should not be at the beck and call of counselors and probation. for youth in detention, community-based programs should be permitted to work with the youth while in school and during the waking hours. cbos should have equal investment and time support and resources to work with youth in any noninstitutional home life fail that we build and have parity and pay for good quality advocates inside and more importantly outside of any institution. this is not a new concept of shared leadership in los angeles and california and across the nation hoping to close their juvenile halls and are looking at us to take the lead and i am including the audience here and forward thinking and proactive. i say let's do this right. i know we can and i know we can and we will with the incredible vision and support and effort. i am committed to working closely with you until we shut it down. >> thank you. >> just one question. just for my clarity. did you say increases with youth and the system and number will increase because of the number of use in extended foster care? >> right now we have seen a reduction in the number of youth that are leave foster care are entitled to receive ongoing benefits so that they can live excellently and many are outside of san francisco. it is a voluntary program. for, i believe, for my office, we probably have about 60 clients in extended foster care and who are vulnerable and homeless without any resource. we have been working with the courts and community partners and n funders to secure general income to follow those youth, but i want to emphasize that one of the strongest recommendations is having flexible funding to follow all the youth and families. and part of the ordinance is to reallocate gunding from budgets and the closure of juvenile hall to the community. so that we can provide that funding. >> do you feel any questions, chair ronen? >> first of all, thank you for all of your work and chairing this committee. it was a labor of love and difficult work. >> it was difficult work but committed to seeing through to the end. >> absolutely. i heard you won't retire until juvenile hall is closed. >> that is correct. so you will be seeing me around if a little while longer. >> that is a conflict of interest. we want to keep you, but i get it. so if the public defender through the manager or the office itself ran this wellness program, how many koord naytors or advocates do you think you would need to properly serve the youth. that is the good question to follow the youth from the very moment that he or she stepped in to this system. and frankly this, applies to youth on diversion as well as mentioned by the officer frost so if youth were diverted, we could have well beinged a voe t ---ed a voe t kas over the 90 program -- the advocates that serve youth in san francisco. so if we want to just focus on youth on probation and to have a wellness coordinator through magic, which is in the community, that this will make sense when we are serving 400 to 50 # o youth. we don't represent all the youth. i think it makes sense to start off with two coordinators. and the well being advocates should be in the community. in the community based programs. and it should be those programs that work directly with the youth that come to court, that conduct the home visits, that are there for crisis management and any time a night or day which is what our social work staff is available for our compliants. and they follow that youth and family throughout their involvement in the system. that is the only way it will work. you cannot abandon the youth. you cannot shuffled a voe t kas and that is a problem with the parity in pay. so there are a lot of bulletproof people who can't survive and raise a family in the city and we're asking them to really commit their lives in a very difficult job to commit your life to working with a young pen and insuring that they are safe and that their well being is protected. and not only for that youth but for the families so that is the big picture. but i would think that initially you would want to start off with two as part of the infrastructure. >> thank you. thank you so much, patty. >> thank you. >> and now we are going to hear from our department of children, youth, and their families and i know we have director maria -- >> as well as director dorsey and jasmine dawson who will be presenting. >> i will be presenting remotely. thank you so much, president walton and chair ronen for calling this hearing. although it has been a while, it is never too late to really bring all of us together in the city. and once again, my name is maria sue t director for department youth and families. dcyf has the privilege of administering the san francisco children and youth funds and we administer these dollars via our nonprofit agencies as well as to partnerships with city departments. so i actually have a slide deck that i would like to share, and i will operate my slide deck. sorry. i apologize. there you go. so once again, i am the director for the department of children, youth and families. in preparation for the presentation, we were asked to share some information about the grants that we fund. so as you can see here, we administered a lot of money in different service strategy areas that all roll up into one big service area that we call justice services area and we fund different types of different strategies that have a number of nonprofit agencies inside that provide the program. in total, we allocate almost -- well, $17.8 million. almost $18 million in funds to nonprofit agencies throughout the city. i have a number of slides here that i will not go through, but it's really to demonstrate the depth and bredst of the cbos that we fund and the type of work that they provide. as you can see, one of the categories that we fund is called cultural programming where we ask nonprofit agencies to provide services that is culturally relevant for children and youth and for the young people in the justice system. the next category is young adult court and case management. girls and young women's programming and our community assessment and referral center. the next category is detention. based services that are programs that go inside the juvenile justice center to provide services for those young people there. and then we have a category called miscellaneous that is -- and i apologize for having a category called miscellaneous, but it is -- these are very specialized services that once again support our young people within the justice system. and then we have a service area called mentorship that provides once again mentorship support and pairing caring adults with young people and that is connected or that is adjacent young people. in total of all the cbos that we just saw, they provide services at 86 -- i'm sorry, at 68 different sites throughout the city. 18 of the sites are at the public schools. one of them are at a charter school, at kip academy. 37cbo sites throughout the city and 13 other facilities. and that includes the juvenile justice center, the county jail, and public housing. within all of those nonprofit agencies that i just displayed, they have 29 subcontractors, so for example, one could have a lead agency that has multiple partners underneath them. life cart is a lead agency with multiple partners underneath them. and in this fiscal year, fiscal year 21-22, our cbos projected to serve over 3,000 youth in their grants. anded a of april, this year, there were 2,000 young people that were served and that entered into our data system. please know that cbos have a month lag in the cbos entering data into our system. if you want to know more and have more information about any of the cbos, we have a very detailed list of all of our cbos, the performance measures as well as the data on our website. and we were also asked for our opinions on some of the recommend dagss that were in the report. first recommendation was for the family-based services. and i will say, of course, i fully support having more services for our families. currently dcys and juvenile probation are funding a pilot project that is a community-based, licensed foster family agency program. the agency we are working with is called alternative family services and they provide emergency and long-term placements for youth ordered to out of home placements by the courts and there are a total of 7 licensed and intensive foster care beds available for our san francisco youth and the pilot project. pretty soon, dcyf will be release the rfp to expand the justice involved young people and families. the types of services we will be included in the rfp will be to support families navigating and provide family treatment and family wellness activities with support parents and teens. the other questions that we were asked to comment on was the family advocate. it is difficult to navigate through the difficult system. and however, and with a well being advocate could be, should be, can look like and we questioned about the feasibility and the role and responsibility of the well being advocate. in the report, it talked about having the advocates be available 24/7. and it talks about training around restoration and healing. and the ability to establish clear lines of authority which we fully support but ramping up into that will take time and take a lot of resources. and it talks about access to flexible funding. in terms of dcfy, we fund our cbos and the flexibility of the funds would look like. and then, of course, there are the other components about committees and trainings and establishing agreements and data sharing which we fully accept and agree with to insure that the cbos involved in juvenile justice involved and have access within this system. and finally we were asked about shared leadership. i am all about bringing and creating the larger table and bringing more people to the table. so with deep commitment to advancing equity and healing family trauma, partner, educational institutions. we prioritize children and youth, transition age youth and family's voices in setting funding priorities and building our knowledge and presence in neighborhoods across the equity framework. that concludes my presentation. i am available for questions. >> thank you so much, director. do you have any questions, chair ronen? >> i do have a couple of questions. and with the $18 million, roughly $18 million investment, do you feel the breakdown from 0 to 17 and 18 to 24? >> yes, i do. with the split. and so how much of the 18 goes to 0-17 and goes to 18-24? >> yes, we do. i can share that with you and the seven license beds for foster care, are we at capacity? >> i am going to ask our deputy director of community partnership to answer that question for me. >> we are not at capacity. that pilot began in september, but we are not at capacity. >> got it. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. with the team and we have chief miller here and to have the advancement of the slides. so thank you. and i was laughing on the way here because i know last time we were here for this, you heard a lot from me. and we talked about state laws and regulations and processes and so many slides and so today you actually asked me to present on a few things. it kind of balances nicely and i appreciate it. i want to say something i started with last time and it is touched on and patty mentioned it. every time we come together to talk about this, we should start by acknowledging how far things have come and how much good work happens here already. and not even just in the last two decades and we have a strong network of community support and are trying to activate a lot of the work that is in the spirit of the report and i will go to the first slide. i only have four. and so my first thing that i was asked to present on just quickly is where we are in the way of asking for some funding to support the design of the building to collectively imagine what that might be. and we are feeling the desire for urgency however it can look and we wanted to make sure we didn't miss an opportunity and probation did butt in the capital consultant to start working with all of us on figuring out what we could do and this is a mouthful. i am not going to read it. i did try to highlight the pieces of it that are critical and this goes into the capital budget ask of the city and the capital planning committee met on monday and they are advancing this in the process of the 500,000. and i want to note a few things about it. one is that it is not tied to a specific address, right? and the second thing is that it is written to be really consistent with the spirit of the legislation and the things that we heard during the work group process. as i mentioned, the consultant which can mean a lot of things here is about an architect who can both edge case us on the best thinking in the field and this is not probation making up the member in the vacuum and none of us are architects or planers and this is in coordination with the city administrator's office that we came up with this figure. next slide please. so we were asked today just to provide some company tear on the three concepts that other folks have been touching on. i will start with the wellness advocate and also called a well being advocate in some conversations and it is the topic of many convictions over the last few months. we have been in the conversations and the one thing that we can all agree on is we don't have agreement now on what that role is. and that there is still work to be done to flesh it out. so what i know to be true is that we are hearing from young people and their families that there is something missing and that is taking time and detail to do it. and i did list that probation things are centers from beginning to end and the first contact of the case managers working in the community with the people and i want to note that it is important to us that these are decisions and full-time decisions that this is not an ancillary function or job for them. we look forward to be in the conversations and at the table and i want to note over the last few months juvenile probation has been working together in some work groups to flesh out ways to collaborate better including groups of people with young person and family and really working differently to support them. and we have been holding a place for the well being advocate in that space and not really kind of assigning the roles or getting into the details on it. so we will decide it and moving on to family based services, so kind of like with wellness advocate, family-based services can do a lot of ways to support the young people involved in our system. and this is in the juvenile hall process. and for those who heard me present on the djj closure work, you heard me say this also came up as a need over and over in the process and the committee that san francisco has to figure out how to handle the closure of djj and came up over 50 times as a gap in the separate body. the good piece of that is they decide how to prioritize funding coming from the state to support our young people as a result of djj closing. maria sue totally stow my thunder and it and aiming for a june 1 release of request for proposals to put more funding into the community to do a whole range of family support. so there is not an arbitrary distinction on who merits additional family support and who doesn't. and final slide. so we were asked to comment on the shared leadership and is an incredibly important principle and that can look a lot of different ways and drill down on what we think we mean by it and there is a continuum from are we planning the schedule and programming in the hall together to are we making decisions on staffing and structure at the highest levels. so with the areas not that it is legible but as an important reminder to all of us that is page 53 that is a question and to incorporate into the report and a list of the kind of things we have to think about to do shared leadership in a custodial setting and think about what shared leadership looks like in a community setting. my own commission and our president is a great example of that. and to me is how do we leverage what we have and to minimize duplication and what structures need to be created in the community and in the way we work together. a lot of work to be done so really enthusiastic and take the time to do it right. there are two two questions and interested in hearing this through the project process and i haven't necessarily gotten a response to this and that we are spending in certain ways. i would love to hear what the thoughts are about that and what ideas are in place and is something we haven't heard about. and what i can say is that what we have been trying to do is look hard at new funding coming in and the up iffeding in the budget to increasingly use them to go to probation and other kind of state money that is folded into the budget that we have discretion on how we use and more of that over the years have been used to fund the personnel costs and to hold that to use more freely for the priorities that we are interested in here. and this is the great example to add that money to the state money that is coming down and do more for our sfam familys is one way to handle it. i will note that the same request for proposal will also fund more credible manager life coaches to work with our young people. >> what are your thoughts a what about we can do about the courts? to get them more actively supportive and to think about working with this in a way where we can be successful so any idea or strategies there? and it is a complicated issue and a delicate issue for me to speak about the court. they are a state agency. they have their own cannon of ethics. when we talk about within the justice system and a number of us has the monthly meeting and to talk about how to do the work better there and actively engaged in figuring things out. that is a tougher nut to crack and i will share one of the questions and the liberty of last week with a meeting to talk about warrants and collectively put together warrants that is a specific part of the closed juvenile hall recommendations to work with them to activate that now. >> any questions? >> chair ronen. >> i think i will save them for the project process. i certainly have been discussing one of the major objectives of our legislation. and this is proved to be challenging. and it's proved to be even more challenging that we could have imagined given the district state rules regarding a physical building. i am very excited about this ask for an architect because i think being able to envision and imagine without necessarily an address but with visuals to say this is what we could provide to youth that have to be in the secure setting. and to push us toward and to close juvenile hall. and just want to ask you a couple of questions about that. so capital planning is moving that in in the process. does that mean it will b available if all goes well for this coming fiscal year? >> we asked for it for the fiscal year and are in the budget with tex expertise of creating a secure but not institutional setting? so to go to bud and i think that is the process and we would be at the table. and so i think naming specific architects is a tough thing going down the path of that and doing the building of spaces and including other california counties and has been part of the the design of the current hall with so much of the conversation on educating me on the aspects of the current hall that he would never design today. and we talk about how much that hall isn't that old. he was just so clear on things that absolutely would be done differently in any place today. and the need and desire for architect who is do that work right to situate something in. and it is what existed and to find the right expectation. >> moving forward to close juvenile hall which i am excited about the potential of the wellness advocate and more family-based services and shared leadership and i want that hall closed. this year the plan is to fund a community to come up with that address. and is there work planned to continue to try to find an address where this potential so that is one place and i am not aware of where real estate might be and looking at that with this point in time and the design contract is to identify a cost of building and is hard for leadership to make the decisions without knowing the respective costs and that is to help generate that conversation. >> thank you, chief miller. last but not at least we have the department of public health and you have the floor. >> hi. thank you. anna from dph is going to be advancing my slide. we will wait for those to pop up. >> i didn't want to mispronounce your name. >> thank you. as the director. >> thank you, chair ronen and president walton for having us committed to serving the youth and families. next slide. >> through the chair -- >> i am working on advancing the slide. >> no worries. there we go. this is to give a robust system of care and many levels of care and programming within each of the levels and the overall budget is about just under $90 million and about 65% of that is estimated to go to contracted providers in the community. any program could end up serving a youth in the juvenile justice system and could be linked to services along this tier and continuum, but the presentation we are focussing on today and the questions we are answer have to do with programs targeting and invested and investing in juvenile justice populations. we will first part with our clinic and give an overview of the contract providers and answer the questions you have for us about the recommendations. next slide. special programs for youth or s.p.y. is the 24/7 comprehensive medical and behavioral services inside of juvenile hall and is staffed by a multidisciplinary team to culturally relevant and accessful health care services. and services are provided with title 15 of the california standards. next slide. >> as you know, there have been declines in census over the years and especially during covid and with the juvenile justice perform and the acuity of youth behavioral health needs is high. and youth in custody with a position shared that is with the linkage and the next annual census. next slide. in terms of the budget, we had 33fte and are at 17 and 6.12 of which is vacant. and close to 2.5 million budget is tied to dps positions would need to be reallocated and the budget is tied to the position to be reallocated within dph and continued with the noninstitutional place of detention. next slide. this is really hard to see but this outlines a lot of the contract provideers and juvenile justice services and mental health and there is 3.75 million and flexible funding and a little over 100 thousand dollars of which is j.p.d. work order. these are approximate numbers because the fiscal year aren't certified and you can see there what is in the contract and how many served this year so far. the board had questions on if we provide any mental health beds for use on probation in the system and probation involves youth and j.p.d. youth and all have access to the 23 hour crisis stabilization and the diversion program and provide the linkages to in-patient psychiatric hospital beds. in term of residential beds, juvenile proomegas departments and makes the placements and contracts to provide mental health services in the settings and similar to the catholic chair tis and 8 beds with staffing shortages available. and as already noted by dr. maria sue, there is beds they have obtained at alternative family services which is one of the contractors that provides mental health services. next slide. so for the recommendations that you had us focus on, d.p.h. is most closely connected to the family-based services but will touch on each of these and is outside the direct purview and it seems to be a lot to understand about this role. however, it is our belief thatted a voe t kas and system navigators are needed to navigate complex systems. this is distinct from behavioral health clinicians and coordinators for youth and families that are xekt kekted to intensive services and introducing other individuals in their lives they need to develop a relationship with and coordinate around could be overwhelming. we have want to be mindful of that and the well beinged a voe t kas would be in the process is not to over-assess the youth and hope this can facilitate connections for youth to services that might not be connected to services especially to the hubs for linkage to care. in terms of family-based services we share the goal of building out robust prevention and family focused services and hire a leadership position in the system within the special mental health system and oversight and evaluation of prevention and parenting supports across san francisco. and focuses on reform efforts for families. the ffpsa and juvenile department to support prevention services and dps and vision is a partnership in this to work closely around the implementation plan guided by the state. in terms of the shared leadership this is more within the purview of j.p.d. and the other systems to comment on. and the contracted ccbo providers. and the scope of the leadership and provision around cbos in terms of our role versus their role in running the 24/7 medical and behavioral detention center. that is all i've got. i do have just one question and you talked about work orders so is that from or two? >> from. thank you, dr. maria sue. >> i don't have any questions. >> thank you so much. i do want to appreciate the departments that did present this afternoon and thank you for being here and stick around after late start. and now i believe we are at time for public comment. and to approach the podium and we are at two minutes on hold. wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted. if you would like to speak vant done so already, press star 3. thank you so much. >> i am too old. i have been what going on about the accountability with the different departments, there is no sense of urgency. to talk about police and to see the community-based person and how long do we need to talk about that? and maybe you develop a dashboard reasoned a seen in the community before they are in the system. i am begging you to take that role. it is like over 60 million and we have very few kids in the system and 290 kids in the system. and 100 are from out of county. 70 aren't even on probation. they are on ab12 and i can't tell you how many are over 18. we can do this. we have the money to do everything everyone is talking about. we need you to help us do this and how did this happen? suddenly we know we are going to build a building at ygc. talk about having a building and place where people have emotional trauma associated with it. how did that >> thank you. again, folks, we are at two minutes. i an i i apologize if i have to cut you off. let's take the next commenter please. >> right. >> i am a community organize we are the young women's center. and when we get us at that frustrated and and got to be doing something better and with the work on the next problem and the next and the next. and what does it look like and with that system and criminalizes our youth and to be a part of change. so this is important to understand us as adults as guidance and role models and when we are mad at the problems or don't know why it isn't working out with this particular youth to ask yourself, am i doing my best? can i do something bet sner we can. we can all push ourselves to be best and if not best, better than best. that is not the time to critique a youth but to critique ourselves. so that we can appropriate ourselves to the lies and yes, with the guidance and youth and feeling and every day of our lives to be getting the attention they need. and as the youth and community members, it is our job to be supporting the self-determination and put the youth in the positions and that the youth sit at the seats of power and how do we choose the diversion and reinforce that into our own lives and own hands? to not hire resources that are rightful to us and to be transparent and not criminalize us and to u humanize our struggles. and with the from different institutions and around california that is a good majority of my life. living with life long trauma from effects of dealing with societal and the socioeconomic issues that are rooted and led by soulless entities like a police department. i am also of self-determination and to help me in the personal growth and the way to impact others and to earn a degree and to go back into the communities and do this work. i am also the example of what this means that someone having access to resources and with the lived experience node to be at the center and to make the decisions and evolve in how you conduct yourself as a from that land that is led by the people most impacted by et with the programs doing the work and the millions of dollars and you need to come from healing restoration and the rise center with a diversion program called restore and get involved in the youth and their life and teaching them accountability and restoration and connecting them to the resource. >> thank you so much for your community. >> next speaker please. >> hello. i am the youth engagement coordinator from this prament in district 10 and 11 and a student at san francisco state university. i support every demand by the young women's freedom center and in solidarity with those most impacted. trading in 100-bed facilities for one with 30 is not the end of incarceration and the city will be looking to fill the beds in return for profit. you have failed to include, uplift, and consider those most impacted by incarceration and the process did not consider the youth and leadership from demanding a place in this process that replaces the file file with alternative publicity, transparency and accountability. this is the first time participating in person throughout the entire process. granted, the pandemic played a part and they didn't attempt to make this access to to luxury of time away from work and family and no access to the internet. think about the difference between reforms and transformation of systems. this replaces wit a facility that has a historical track record of abuse and maintains bars on the win dose. where is the conversation of prevention? and the average number of people during the pandemic was less than 20. the recommendations are reforms that keep children locked away with no agency and with the reservation and the two people do not represent an entire population from juvenile incars nation and not filled throughout the sur racings of the work group to develop this plan made in a rush and moving forward, we need to be bolder and don't just include youth and family. >> folk, if we can have a single line going this way. >> thank you so much. are there any members of the public who would like to speak? just approach the podium. and i wanted to say a few thicks. one is we have a new way and if you look at the 11 youth in the hole today, four are committed. that leaves seven youth in the and are youth awaiting replacement and the numbers shrink and dignity and humanely. and 7 is a number we can work with, people. the other thing i want to go back to is the main reason we are all here is because we aren't allowed to use cbos we were already paying. jpd was not making any referrals to cbos and people were upset, justifiably. and $11 million going to agencies we couldn't spend. if we don't get youth connected from the moment they are cbos, it is hard toed know this they can do this so with the hearing and different exposure and have never had a case manager. use what we currently have and then look at the surveys and whether or not it would work out. >> thank you for having this meeting. we have spent hours in meetings with you, separate from you all, and all by ourselves as well. through covid, with the weekly for two hours technically, but more like four hours actually every week. and then doing a lot of side stuff. we have made a lot of the recommendations that have shown up and have come from folks in the jjpa. we are dedicated and passionate group of people in this process and we are not going to go away and we fundamentally support all the things that were asked today about wellnessed a voe t kas and there is a lot of confusion and there is a lot to be worked out and at a base level we are supportive of the process and with family oriented services and are supportive of shared leadership for the obvious reasons and that they are apparent to having conversations with the community. i want to echo the request from others about holding people accountable to what this looks like and how we move this forward to completion. >> is there any other member who is would like to speak? we're going to move on to the remote public call-in line. we have six listeners on the line with three in the cue. if you could unmute the first caller please. hello, caller. you are on the line. >> hello? >> welcome. >> can you hear me now? >> yes. and i am watching it on tv and does my time start? >> yes, ma'am, go ahead. >> okay, great. let me mute it. sorry. and with the yearing and the young people who spoke at the beginning and the service providers who have worked for hours to come up with a plan to close juvenile hall. i am here to say that i am a service provider myself. i am nancy hernandez. i have been a high school speecher in san francisco for many years and work with the youth organizations that i see represented. all of us have been pushing to close juvenile hall. to see a proposal for half a million dollars to ask for planning is exactly off the macintoshing. to close juvenile hall and shut it down. this pandemic has showed us that all of us can pivot. and i think that every time nonprofits are pulled up and shown on a screen as if the jobs could not be deployed to do other things is misleading. every one of us is a nonprofit worker with a bazaillion different things and if there are a small number of youth or large number, we want to shut down this system of incarceration and provide services for young people to develop into the leaders that you saw in front of you today. thank you for hearing me. >> thank you so much. let's take the next caller please. >> so supervisors, the first thing i want to say is that juvenile hall with incarceration started in incarceration as to go away. but i was reading a newspaper a newspaper about laguna honda and to removing the elderly from laguna honda so that they can use and and trajectory to tear down so to tear down and put it in writing. and your incarceration at juvenile hall and with that type of what we call restorative justice. i don't trust it, supervisors. nor do i trust the city authorities. they always have a hidden agenda. that they wrote and created a curriculum with the restoretive justice model to heal themselves. thank you so much. >> we have one speaker left in the queue. if you are part of the five that are listening and have not spoken and would like to, press star 3 and indicate to us that you would like to speak. otherwise we will take the last caller. >> good evening, supervisors. i am a staff attorney at the youth law center. thank you for this hearing and your continued commitment for closing juvenile hall. we want to add a couple of comments. first t department's revision pertaining to youth should be coordinated with this process and incorporate the principles and recommendations of the working group report. it makes no sense for this to be disconnect and should be rooted in community, able to serve youth and family and continue beyond any system contact. and finally, we have heard in the past that regulations and the ability to re-imagine what the detention could look like. there is an opportunity right now to influence the regulations if state agency is undertaking the revision process. san francisco should be actively engaged in the revision of the regulations and advocate for changes that allow us to fulfill the vision of the closure of juvenile hall. thank you. >> thank you so much for your comments. we have one more caller that popped up in the queue. let's take the last caller, please. >> hello, everyone. i am the deputy director at the center on juvenile and criminal justice and the co-chair of the juvenile justice providers association. thank you, president walton and supervisor ronen for moving this work forward. i recognize that they are coming here today with different viewpoints and different perspectives, but so long as we stay focused on what is best for our youth and truly listen to what the young people have to offer and i was a skeptic but that is wrong. this is about change and as a community member and a cbo representative, we are ready to engage in the hard conversations to start the shared leadership today and the youth facility. we are ready to do this now. we have planned an planned an talk and talked and are very eager and ready to implement this change now. please let's begin the work. let's start the change today. thank you. >> thank you so much for your comments. we have another caller that popped up in the queue. let's take that caller please. >> hello, you are on the line. welcome. >> i have a quick comment and i have been attending this meeting and something that i wanted to point out is that with the society and planning and designing and talking about the access and the juvenile hall shut down. so building this new facility and will move it back instead of moving forward. a lot of time the voices are not being heard. we need a place where we as young people can go and get the impact on the feedback and how this process is moving. and i just don't have a place that can i go myself and share my ideas. but besides this, to have with two minutes and cut us. if this is taking too long and seven youth and four of them open and now only one. why is it taking so long? and and so we are in there and with the trau that that we have and with this moving forward. >> thank you so much for your comments. madam chair, that completes the queue. >> thank you. public comment is closed [gavel] >> thank you so much, chair ronen. i do want to first start off by thanking everyone who showed up today both in person and everyone listening virtually. i do want to remind everyone about the fight we had together in 2019. it is important for us not to lose site and how hard that fight was and how we all had to come together to win what we achieved. because sometimes when you win, you can get to a point where you verth what you are all fighting for and we came together for the singular focus of shutting down juvenile hall and providing an opportunity for our young people and if you remember during that climate, there was a bigger divide between the board of supervisors and the executive branch and there was a bigger divide between community, jpd and the leadership of the juvenile probation department and we hadden an extremely, extremely positive goal to hit and that fight is not over. the only way to get across the finish line is to remember the space that we were in at that time. one of the reasons we haven't moved forward all the recommendations is the fact that we want to allow for more youth voices and continue the conversations with the joout and with providers and continue those conversations with community but of course, we also have to make sure that we do take some concrete steps forward. we do have a report and some things in the report are definitely things that are working that have put us in it place where we are down to 11 as we move forward in the position to shut down juvenile hall and if it were not for some of the obstacles with the courts, there are things to do to snap a finger and achieve a lot of what we want to and there is real obstacles and what the court wills allow us to do an those are just facts. with that said, we will continue to work with the department of real estate to look for property and i am supportive of chief miller's request in the budget and the work around design. we have met with the department of youth and families and the rfps and the work going out to support and address the young people in providing them opportunities that didn't exist before. asking and calling for everyone that worked together to put together a plan as advocate and that terminology is not something that we are stuck on, but most certainly that there is someone one place and family coordinations and for our young people and we will have to, of course, get more specific on what that is and drill down on that. and also asking j.p.d. and come back with the collaborative leadership models to be implemented as we continue this work. there are a lot of recommendations and i want to commend the working group for putting in the time and as you listen to young voice, there are some things that definitely accurate. we were stalled in some of the work because of the pandemic which is very real. not to make excuses because you all know we are about getting things down, supervisor ronen and i and supervisor haney at the time and the rest of my 10 colleagues who supported this, we worked hard to move fast and quickly as we could to get to this point. and so by no means are we going to abandon the work now. i do want us all to remember when we were working together on all cylinders on the same page, that is how we were able to move this work and we're going to stay in that place and be at that place. when we have disagreements, we got to continue to fight through and remember what the common focus is and that is to shut down all and we will get that done. last thing i will say is we do have so many other cities that are looking at this work and so we have to be successful to let our young people succeed. we will continue to do this work and i am proud of what has happened and what what we have done, but most certainly we have not crossed the finish line yet. i want to thank everyone br for being here and your work. sorry t last thing i will say is i will be asking to -- i will be making a motion to continue this to the call of the chair. >> great. i, too, want to start by saying that it was very inspired by the comments of the youth. i just keep thinking to myself, gosh f we set a million dollars per youth when that youth was young, when before they had to grow up in poverty and in a neighborhood where they witnessed violence, eating nonnutritious food, going to a school where it was impossible to concentrate because they were hungry and didn't have a safe place to sleep at night. and then we would have prevented that youth from ever entering the system in the first place. and sadly we have a system and we are living in a country where over time we de-invested in the basic human dignity and well being of youth and families of the country and is linked to systemic racism, which is interlinked in every system that exists in society. and so it's not an accident that you see that the majority of kids that come into contact with the criminal justice system are black and brown. that is related to systemic racism which is related to poverty and which is related to a system that makes no sense p. and it takes youth to come up here and say this makes no sense. why are we building another building with bars on the windows, right? and meredith who called in made the good point that we have a moment in time where we can work with the state lawmakers who have bound our hands and put the handcuffs on us locally to think about something even more transformational than just shutting down juvenile hall. i am really looking forward to getting this group together and thinking one of our co-sponsors of this original legislation, supervisor matt haney s now an assembly member. and can we all work together to unbound our hands through state legislation so we can be even more creative and more transformational. that is number one and i appreciate that comment. number two, i, again, want to appreciate chief miller. i do think there is something about imagining and putting on paper and seeing images of what's possible and what's different that with youth voice from the center of the process. i think we need a process where we have youth getting together with the architect and go through a participating process of designing what would feel truly different and transformational for them. and so i want to really put some real effort around that process so that it's not -- it doesn't take forever and there is the urgency that the president of the juvenile probation commission seeks along with all of us that we need to put boundaries around things otherwise they go on and on and on. and so when president walton and i and supervisor haney at the time put the december deadline, we knew it was urgent. [please stand by] same time as we are, you know, trying to make it obsolete. i keep thinking to myself, gosh it would be so fun to have the kids, you know, tear down the bars in juvenile hall. what are we going to do with that old space, too? let's use it productively and revolutionize the space. how can we use it so it really, you know, is -- it's next use can be something liberating instead of repressive. there is a lot to do and thankfully the number of youth that are being locked up are -- there are so few of them. thank goodness. and let's get it down to zero. and then we can think more creatively. so there's lots to do. yes, we'll continue this item to the call of the chair and then work together to come up with some clear timelines for next steps. but, you know, as long as president walton and i are here, we're not letting go of this, not for a second. we've got a lot to do and little time. and we can't let a single youth stay behind bars a day longer than forced by the state to keep them behind bars. so with that, madame clerk, could we have a roll call vote on president walton's motion? >> yes, as a matter of housecleaning, if we can make a motion to excuse supervisor melgar and safai from the meeting. on that motion. >> supervisor walton: aye. >> supervisor ronen: aye. >> you have two ayes. >> supervisor walton: aye. >> supervisor ronen: aye. >> you have two ayes. >> passes unanimously. do we have any other items on the agenda. >> that completes the agenda. >> the meeting is adjourned. >> chinatown battleground is something i have always wanted to do because we have never had the chinese americans in the military. our history goes back all the way to 1861 to afghanistan. the exhibition is two-parts. one is a visual history which is told through the banners. then basically what i wanted to do was make sure that people understood that every one of these objects tell a story. for example, my uncle was one of two chinese american pilots during world war ii. they come planed they were giving baggy men's coveralls to wear. we have a veteran of the war. now what is notable is that he is the first and only chinese american prisoner of war. we have the met kit. that was the only thing he has for water, rice and soup. he carried for over four and a half years in captivity as prisoner of war. this exhibition is a first base undertaking. also important and i want to take away the big picture that the chinese americans have been involved in united states military since the civil war, over 150 years. we have given service to the country, blood, sweat, tears and sacrifice for a long time. our story of chinese americans are part of the mainstream. chinese american history is american history that is the take away i want to come off with, especially the younger generation. >> good morning. the meeting will come to order. welcome to the thursday, may 26, 2022 meeting of the public services and neighborhood services committee. i am gordon mar joined by members