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for a much better city thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm tony robles, housing organizer with the senior & disability action collaborative. just want to come out in support of the continuance i know there are ongoing decisions in discourse about the citywide requirement you know the community wants to accept the proposal for fillmore and divisadero in addition to the citywide plan more affordable housing for people that need it household making under the area medium income namely household and individuals that are with the district are be disability action and i know pitting against one group against another is you know not healthy for the situation we're in. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is javior at leadership high school i'm representing my fellow students to show support for the continuance as supervisor president london breed the opportunity to get connected and talk with the constituents as a member of variances community i'll motivate supervisor president london breed to reach out as to the millennials who are unable to get affordable housing tonight no matter how much not enough to create together with said community and build at her community that represents their needs supervisors are meant to supervisor and represent the constituents and london breed was elected no - i urge london breed to reach out and build - doubling affordable housing thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is spencer i'm a writer artist and enterprise taking time off of work to be here to strongly support this legislation i think our hearts should be with the members of the society all the time and clearly people that need housing and a scarce supply in san francisco we should, supporting the not the water it and kicking to the curving the poorest. >> thank you afternoon my name is connor ryan a resident of san francisco for 419 years and lived in the north panhandle for 13 and support the continuance for the legislation because as it stands it is flawed if we're going to retain nothing like a difference san francisco we must have affordable housing for all but if we're going to renegotiate and start changing the rules of the game we shouldn't be negotiating on the backs of the most vulnerable and the low income people of this city so i support the continuance and support further study on this very flawed legislation thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> hello my name is david wu ichts born and raised in district 5 and still live in the district i'm here to support this continuance we need to redo the legislation as it currently exist it seeks to cut affordable housing we need to be fighting to canned to the highest level possible i'm glad to hear that supervisor president london breed is intending to meet with the community on this legislation as she has been largely absent and not engaged her own constituents so i'm looking forward to hearing if supervisor breed and the planning department in a public forum format thank you. >> thank you, mr. wu. >> next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm speaking individually for a mid townhouse parks apartments i'm a resident here since 1970 into the district i was raised there and also i'm part of safe midtown i'm in support of continuance but also to this legislation is fade and daishgd and plus overall the city of san francisco needs to stop the board of supervisors the rich and powerful getting they're way and not the low income thank you for the opportunity and have a good week thank you. >> thank you. >> supervisors thank you. i'm mark a 19 year resident of district 8 supervisor jeff sheehy so good to meet i've come to talk to i'm a hiring manager for a nonprofit 10 years and i'm trying to hire entry-level workers and those people need a place to live unfortunately, it is not very viable for them so like my friend said earlier any legislation that we can do together is probably not enough to what we need we need to turn it up to 11 and we need your help on doing that because we want to grow the economy in san francisco and that is to energy workers i came in 1997 and started at the bottom in a tax person and now a hiring manager i'm contributing to the economy we need more people to create overseeing opportunity can't just be those how folks i appreciate this and look forward to seeing you next time thank you all. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon excuse me - good afternoon. thank you for the opportunity noipdz a period of time i'm a decades-long resident of district 5 i support the continuance because i believe that the supervisor president london breed needs to take the time to reflect about the broad legislation myself i'm a middle-income mid age man in meddle managed i see my community changing not only the working-class but paper-pushers, too, and divisadero is corridor is quite diverse and a lot of minority be owned businesses and i see that sdraurgsz and a critical time for the board to look at the reality many, many of the san franciscans have been living here for the last decade this city is expensive but to cartoonville i didn't expensive i hear what will happen not only the middle aged myself but people with children thank you for the opportunity. >> thank you good afternoon supervisors. thank you for the time to speak i'm interfering our live in the excelsior district 11 lived there too years but before that over a decade on las vegas worst in an sro a graduate from usf and recently got married and want to make san francisco my home we're - and my colleagues here to demand affordable housing other than the proposal that supervisor president london breed has put forwarded we demand that those requirements are affordable to the people that live here families and the people that want to live here not affordable to developers we support this continuance and we urge that supervisors and london breed take the time along with the planning commission to reach out to the community to see what the needs of people actually are and any requirement we demand that is in addition to the citywide requirement not a proposal that takes away from the low income constituents and citizens of this city and gives it away to hire wage earns we want affordable housing more affordable housing not less thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker. >> good afternoon my name is alison i'm a parent in the fillmore i support this continuance and i hope that commissioner london breed will in fact, meet with the community during this period to uphold her promise she'll increase the highest level of affordable housing in the city not the insulting low level of unit thank you. >> hi, i'm renee a resident of district 5 for 20 years and support the continuance and hope that land use and transportation committee along with clooepd e london breed will create a legislation that works for san francisco we don't have a housing crisis we have a crisis of affordability not follow world hunger by opening up businesses and restaurant not solve the housing affordability crisis with a bunch of luxury housing thanks. >> thank you good afternoon, supervisors my name is laparoroan a senior will in the fillmore for years i would right across the street if the proposal at 650 direct examination i support the continuation very much we need to have the larger discussion about the inclusionary incentives the corridors program should match the inclusionary percentages and in fact, be higher because more density is also for the developers in addition, i sense that the i sent the supervisor an e-mail over the weekend proposing solutions regarding the ami the discussion of neighborhoods ami i think that is a way out to have have your cake and eat it too hope you give that consideration. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors my name is lisa i'm a resident of panhandle and have been for neither here nor there 3 decades i'm frustrate by today's continuance i took time off of work i'll say i support the continuance if it means we can try to improve supervisor breed legislation and i just, you know, i think there is a solution here and we need your help as members of land use and transportation and as supervisors we need our very own supervisors help because there is truly a crisis of affordability for people making one hundred or 50 thousand a year not enough housing you've heard people see is that over and over what if we came together and came up with a plan and compromised that would be something not sitting through listens and listens of people commenting and warrior and fretting thank you for the opportunity to speak with you, please move to continue the legislation and we hope we can meet with our supervisor she ran on the the promise of affordable housing and many elected her believing that and that remains to be seen thank you. >> (clapping.) >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is deirdre i live in the neighborhood and been here thirty years i support the continuance for more dialogue and hopefully, a good compromise for a win-win situation for both sides i like the idea of affordable housing especially for people that work in san francisco like our police people can our fire people and especially our educators that p they need a place to live and work in san francisco thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors testing from the penalty residents i support having for discussion with commissioner london breed and the community probably involving planning i'd like to point out that the last time that we requested a community meeting with our supervisor about this project and other projects somehow we didn't get the notice about the meeting so i'm respectfully asking the chief of staff to make sure to conclude all the people in noticing thank you. >> (clapping.) >> good afternoon, supervisors corey smith on behalf of the housing coalition. looking at the traditional numbers we know the middle-income has been - we appreciate supervisor president london breed's attempt to try to create housing for the firefighters and teachers and the emt and folks like that we fear the uncertainty and kraelgs by moving the gold post will have less affordable housing that is the goal of everybody in the chamber we support the tupgz and hope we have a final resolve that has everybody coming out with a thumbs-up. >> it is pressing good afternoon, supervisors and first of all, let's put to rest this kind of legislation by proposing to house people are 140 ami will house teachers a reason the teachers union didn't allow that kind of argument that continuance i support it that will give london breed and the city an opportunity to turn offer a new leaf when it comes to develop this means actually advocating so for the community as opposed to to advocating for the interests of developers that is what we've seen for the last two years from london breed on this issue since the original give away this legislation seeks to address what that means during the time before the next hearing i hope is actual communication i feel for the folks that took time off from work they knew they would introduce send an e-mail to gus that is basic requirement to engage in respect dialogue i want to echo the sentiment we need a public hearing to get community input on this let's work together to insure we have had more affordable housing on divisadero and fillmore not less thank you very much. >> (clapping.) >> seeing no other members of the public public comment is closed. and thank you all for your testimony and i hope that by may first, we'll fourthed something not more hard working to do is there a motion to continue to may 1st. >> so moved. >> >> made by supervisor tang and supervisor jeff sheehy without objection that will be heard on may 1st madam clerk please read item no. 2 - item no. 2 - 170202 green building code - requirements for installation of electric vehicle chargers. >> in new buildings or those under 0 going major alterations. >> supervisor tang. >> thank you very much and thank you for your patience to all the staff that working hard on this readiness ordinance existed to talk about how we are trying to really led the charger and you push the envelope for electrical vehicle adoption what we're seeing is demand is growing in the bay area around electrical vehicles and what we need to do is so get our infrastructure ready - to set great example for the region and the rest of country lastly about before i i'm going to turn it over to the department of the environment debbie want to thank everyone that worked hard on the issue and, of course, deb reaping and others from the mayor's office (calling names) so san francisco, california hopefully one day people like me can go ahead and drive an electrical vehicle here in san francisco so with that, i'm going to turn it over to director ralph yes, ma'am e he will 101 for the major amendments and after that have to continue to the following land use and transportation committee hearing. >> thank you supervisor tang thank you to the land use and transportation committee for hearing us today, i want to start by pressing my gratitude to mayor ed lee and supervisor tang for your leadership and partnership working for what i consider to be a bold move but a move that reflects great stakeholders engagement, 234rek9 and meaningfulness when it comes to the future of electrical vehicles here in san francisco so what i'm going to do a little tag team with gary hooper we'll set the context why we need to do that now and who is at table and united states of america u i'm going to turn it over to barry that will talk about was that the ordinance structure does and the amendments to make adjustment to that framework in that ordinance so as you can see san francisco has very bold carbon dioxide goals in fact, we've pledged as a city and the supervisors signed off to reduce our co2 emissions 80 percent 0 below 1990 by 2050 the point to get where we are to percent below our 1990 levels need to set up policies today that pave the way for that achievement in the future so the way we talk about how we'll get there is with the very simple climate action zero water 50/50 percent of trips in constitutional modes they're our transit first get people out of cars walking and biking to streets and make that easy for people to ride transit parking minimums all the things we had to get to 50 and beyond one hundred a 100 percent renewal electrical for one hundred renewable and looking all the other source of energy i'll come back to that in a minute and roots how we'll heal the planet by tearing up concrete by our sidewalk ambassadors program that supervisor tang is to active on is also using our composite on land to actually increase oil fertility and skewer carbon that is one element has to do with are transportation fuel so if in 100 percent renewable energy we'll have to get off the fuel have to switch in natural from diesel to gallon that is about how to get off of gasoline vehicles and electrify the transportation system so california why now california as supervisor tang said leads the nation we're a state that totally gets the need to buy electrical vehicles and san francisco bay area lead california we have a resimply audience in the san francisco bay area our governor is very gun hoe on electrical vehicles and set very ambitious goals for the state i too said these that to meet the statewide we'll have to get off of gasoline and diesel so have many vehicles on the roads electrical vehicles they're looking ways to do it is interesting to be mandated that 22 percent of all new sales of vessels in san francisco by 205022 percent will be electric the state is setting goals and happen at the local levels what will we do in san francisco to be ready for the vengeanvessels supervisor tang that figures out out how to drive an electrical vehicle we need convenient charging with the costs of electrical vehicles down we need a birth range of the electrical vehicles and the variety of choices not everybody wants a tiny such an some people want a station wagon or a truck we need choices those are the barriers this is my favorite slide it is one thing i didn't but i want to show you we've been hearing if or from people concerned how do you know the demand is there you're asking us how do we know there as demand for the electrical vehicles well, that is a slide i saw in a presentation in norway that talked about the norwegian experience in the uptick of vehicles it is for many years it was flat until about nodding when the curve up took sdraufk so what happened been 19090 and 2010 all the things in san francisco, california we're doing it you stop there they work all the policies we put in place infrastructure incentives and hov lanes maybe not enough what happens in norway about to happen here next year that is at car companies kicked in started to give the customers a wide variety of electrical vehicles so we've been preps in california this legislation will make sure that the buildings that are built in the future are ev ready when the car companies come we know about we'll be ready to take advantage and meet those bold goals we have as a city and as a state and frankly, we're not alone not something that crazy san francisco is coming up with we have cities crossed the bay area they do it defendant their housing stock is different we're sharing information and workouting to come up to meet the needs so we've been working for a year and a half - this is the variety of people that come to the there is a motion on the table we've been working with affordable housing and residential builder and large-scale developers and contributions and the i e w to the gratitude of the department of building inspection this will be implement and able to understand that and make that work and make that feasible we've that working closely with tom hui and ron and all of them come to the table with us to bring to you a piece of policy that is meaningful that is measured that is cost effective and that will set us up for the future we want and finally i want to say that two commissioned have voted on that the building inspection commission and the commission on the environment support it unanimously you have those resolutions in usual packet we're proud of their support an indication how much effort into this piece of legislation so with that, i'm going to turn it over to my colleague barry who will go through how this works and what the amendments mean today and happy to answer questions. >> ms. raphael with the wide range of stakeholder and effected parties you k34ug9 with did that include the san francisco apartment association. >> they expressed concerns or less your intention to answer the concerns their concerns will be addressed ♪ ordinance and baraka speak about the specification of their concerns >> so you'll, recommending to the sponsor of this legislation some. >> i think we can work through the concerns and see if the amendments are needed i'm not sure we'll need to change the ordinance to address their concerns. >> okay. i look forward to hearing more. >> great. >> good afternoon members of the board show i precede. >> go ahead, please. >> so the ordinance as proposed as supervisor tang outlined was focused on flexibility and being both programmatic about the up front costs at the new construction as well as planning for the future so the core of that is a requirement that electrical service. >> sir identify yourself for the record. >> i'm barry with the department of the environment. >> so the core of the ordinance the service needs to be sized to provide for seaman's charging at 20 percent of parking spaces with that level of service be able to expand the parking using charging management stmgz systems in the future to up and including all parking spaces in the facility sthep within the building electrical distribution system the ordinance requires 10 percent of spaces your understanding as easy as possible to a charger and find a fuel credibility of 40 ams from the relevant electrical panel to the individual that parking spaces the ordinance proposed for an additional 10 percent of spaces more a conduit to up size the circuits as desired and again, provision for remaining space for capable of charging and a summary outlining it in more details in this slide a recommended amendment to the ordinance but there are summarized in the slide with the striking. >> at the risk of wasting more paper do you have a copy because those screens are ancient are completely we can't see them. >> i don't have a copy. >> the first slide that deb was showing from norway i'm sure everybody in the audience and watching that on tv can see it but the 3 of us that makes the decision can't. >> i salute you for ahsha safai paper. >> i have a laptop i could loan that. >> you don't want to give me our laptop. >> we'll continue this item anyway we'll visit this again but wander we can't use our screens. >> thank you. i apologize for that. >> the the biggest substantive change striking the flexibility requirement for the 10 percent of spaces to eliminate the requirement for any conduit or full credibility for the spaces and then for all remaining spaces rather than rather than an electrical design for each parking space the ordinance will require a programmaticly installing the conduits 3 could extend the worry and adds spaces for an electrical panel for the charges and charging that and the other change suggested categories that are suggested to the ordinance is addressing a provision to the environment code that requires the owner or the homeowners association in the building to annually notify the tenants of the availability of electrical vehicle chargers they'll have the opportunity to come to terms on installing an a.d. charger if they deserve with the consideration and up front for all stakeholders it has been cost we partnered with the city of oakland and fremont to develop this proposal and have a consultant shared between the 3 cities proud the cost effective reports looking at the sensitive category of smaller development prairie affordable housing and the range of additional parking spaces of such facilities two scenarios one with 10 parking spaces and another one with 60 if you were to require that 20 percent of spaces were turnkey then or 10 spaces that will be two turn could he an $800 incredible costs you scale up to 60 parking spaces that is 12 turnkey spaces again, this is incremental costs of $10 for parking spaces one and 75 what was a number of stakeholders were careful to point out in newer and larger buildings that have a greater amount of parking a typical of housing we rarely see them in town you have a considerably more opportunity for electrical extra for transforms on the customer side of the electrical meters the run of conduit extends from the interest would individual parking spaces increases and, of course, it is going to be professional union labor to build this large property and there is a consideration there so overall cost is large for those facilities we apologize there are a number of provision for the control of costs directly address the concerns that were raised by a number of stakeholders including the apartment of association and really fall into two category one for new construction where the design of the building and the provision of electrical extra in the building you'll provide electrical infrastructure in a building but one element that can be unpretty bad e predictable in the costs the cost of upgrading the portion of grid specific for your service is something the developer can bear the cost of it but the if the utility has to make upgrades it is not related to project size so consistent with the green building code that will maintain a cap of $400 per parking space so at the same level with the existing electrical vehicle and more for residential buildings one maintaining that same cost cap the upgrade of service necessary and second the ordinance for existing buildings only applicable to a major objection this depiction has been in the green building code of projects 25 thousand expedite that includes the significant structural work and is defined in separate requirements administrative code by the department of building inspection but consistently. >> i don't know if you saw the chronicle piece with the seismic safety program for soft story buildings and the apparent rate of compliance projects but that i assume some of those projects might trigger this and have you done any thinking whether or not this will increase the costs of seismic retrofit and running into one another and our thoughts. >> a fantastic question the third criteria is for the emotion navigating in addition to the significant structural work needs to be significant alterations for mechanical or electrical and plumbing so common in a seismic retrofit project to pull the permit for the schematic retrofit and not entail that goods to the other buildings. >> there is another public goal this board has i think unanimously supported that is we're seeing it mostly in seismic retrofits that is the inclusion of accessary dwellings or unit which still would entail pulling plumbing and electrical so i think there is - we should have some i think careful thoughts about the goals if this only applies to new construction i would not be asking those but careful in 2015 the city mandated what is - if you read the article the reason we have half or appears as september is 50 percent is non-compliance not because people don't want to do something about it but the probable cause active costs at the same time, we're incentive listing the affordable housing in those projects so it should be talking to the people i'm not sure ms. raphael the people that be effected were consulted as you represented or at least that is kind of the sense i've gotten over the last 96 hours. >> precede. >> thank you, sir in in addition let's say the threshold has been crossed and cost consideration there are two or three outs with regards to the ordinance one is this ordinance alone can't trigger an upgrade to the electrical service so which will be an important consideration and discussion where you're addressing accessary dwellings to a seismic retrofit project written that will be a typical for that scale of projects to include changing the actual structure for the grid and so what this ordinance in those cases where if the amount of charging is required for new construction requires a upgrade of electrical service not within the scope the project allows to scale back for the e b charging for that to accommodate even if it means no charging the second provision where a residential project may petition to the director of the building department will constitute a hardship they can allow an be alternative pathway and third this is specifically for not exclusively for residential by residential and non-residential a finding the infeasibility because of state has requirements for excess ability when provides for electrical vehicle chasing and the existing buildings generally not been with future accessibility requirements in mind when not possible to meet the 0 possibilities we have exemption for all parking space if necessary to not cause on undue hardship. >> what does that cost for me to prove that. >> there is a professional cost similar for the cruel design as well. >> that concludes my presentation. a more detailed summary of the adjusted amendment and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> supervisor peskin if i may to our point we reached out to the apartment association as we did to all stakeholders there engagement became much more focused end of last week, we would be happy between now and next week to sit down and discuss in all the detail that is necessary to see if amendments are needed when we looked at their ask it didn't look like there were amendments needed but if there are we'll bring them to you. >> i don't want to put words in your mouth and have present of representation but i'm under the envision they're under the envision that applies to new construction and didn't release that until it popped up on the intersect thursday evening. >> i can't say whether that came from and say we're happy to more than happy to sit down and go through step by step every concern and see if, in fact, the ordinance is unnecessarily problematic. >> not only on behalf of the the apartment association but saying that on behalf of the tenants because to the extent that the city is telling those folks hey mandate retrofit and adding things those costs capitalized costs can urban design passed through and raised rents so this is a complicated formula that has my attention more than 2050. >> noted. >> thank you okay through the chair so you know certainly i did see the correspondence coming in regarding the apartment association and this is a concern you spoke to we had the significant go renovation i want to reiterate that on page 4 it talks about the definition of major alternative sf virmentd clarifies the ordinance is applicable to green building requirements since 2008 as mentioned that is already requiring the lead infiltrate or better in those buildings so i think you heard about the very exception that were made to the extent you would not be providing electrical vehicle chargers in certain situations so i will, happy to follow up with sf environment and other stakeholder in the issues they brought to us but perhaps at the time may be go to public comment and hear from the members of the public on any issued. >> i'm happy to adopt those and continue a week you'll work out it out and why not open up for public comment first speaker please. >> good afternoon, supervisors brooke with the coalition for better hours while we applaud the efforts as environmentally concerned partners in san francisco we do point to this as a failure of progress never we approached by anyone from either the st. joseph's the mayor's office by the commission about this. >> we're concerned about the issues relating to people or to folks who are doing go seismic to retrofit only those the believes and how to respect that we'd like this to be continued are biefkd whatever to put aside to have that opportunity we should have had to address this issue beforehand and never during the process were we reached out by anyone that is a failure and shouldn't be allowed to go forward without our input since the residential housing industry is a huge part of this legislation thank you. >> thank you, mr. turner. >> next speaker, please. >> game-changer supervisor peskin and members of the board i'm the director of public policy for chair point and pleased to support this legislation that has been sponsored by the mayor and supervisor tang that is the latter electrical vehicle network over 33 thousand charging ports within the - every 3 seconds a driver stops at a station and because of that be anchor point have driven many millions and active in the development of green building standards throughout california for electrical vehicle since the original statewide for a electrical vehicle or pe b readiness codes were adopted that legislation build on statewide readiness standards and supports the climate action stream by expanding assess to clean alternative infrastructure and supporting the g h g of 40 percent blow 1990 levels in 2050 that will address the long term demand for several reasons it includes the measures to accommodate the future for existing buildings undergoing the retrofits and supports others in the long term i agree with director raphael plan and simple pb are the demand is growing and california currently close to reaching ousted 25 percent of sales those are hire workplace the city of san francisco the u.s. pb sales had their highest on record and 2017 is way above pace and we'll see that pg&e projects the number of - >> sir, thank you you can submit the rest of our comments we say to diverse everybody the same amount of time thank you very much. >> i apologize. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors my name is moreen i'm the director of a nonprofit called charge across town to get supervisor katie tang into an electrical vehicle and all across california we start as a project with the san francisco indictment back in 2012 helping to promote electrical vehicles in structure in commercial and residential buildings and found we were a little too soon for the chicken and egg problem not enough demand and with the developers and landlord we refocused our efforts and focused on the consumer end our goal to educate the consumers about electrical vehicles and the technology to continue to push forward for california environmental laws as you may know and the city knows our great mayor knows san francisco is the ev adoption and awareness we ought pays the rest of country however, charging is a huge hurdle to ease adoption we hear that over and over as we talk to executors across the state here in inform 0 thirty percent of our folks live lack of charging stations and charging options as a hurdle to owning a vehicle again, we talked to homeowners and part-time dwellers 90 percent of ev charging is done at home if keeping you informed they canned plug in they'll not buy the card we're here to help to advance the adoption of ev thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hello chair peskin jed for 350 is he port this legislation and thank you for all for their work on this we do a lot of work with the bay area quality management supervisor jeff sheehy is a board member on and they actually just are approving their climate excuse me - their protection strategy for 2050 along the 7 sectors of the economy called out by ab 32 d cashing is absolutely critical of the climate protection strategy where we need to be in 2050 the cost in the presentation for 20 percent is so low compared to the cost of construction and the property values are the highest in the country housing is a big profit so much it is in the new newspaper in other cities they're the property taxes are although i actually oppose those amendments weakening this legislation no reason we need to weaken that legislation at all eventually we'll be 100 percent fossil fuel for transportation the region is moving there the bay area air quality management is pushing us there so the idea we're going slow that in some way a baffling to me we'll be 100 percent electric and some alternate fouls supervisor tang is a caution protective eerie trust for full renovation are not too loss for construction we need to get this done and currently reaching to the - >> >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm the zero mission structure project manager for the development and are you - this exists to help to accelerate - i'm here to support the readiness ordinance rapid uptick of the electrical vehicle is key to meeting governor brown's idealogy by 2050 that is coming fast on the roads about 200 and 85 thousand of them and we're not that far way of from 2025 that is critical in getting to the climatic change and the ev readiness ordinance will enhance the charging stations and there assess in the multiple unit dwellings and workplace charging that is a 92 must if we achieve that adoption and also will likely result in lower costs than for retrofitting the buildings in the future and finally you know california is a leader in emission technology and doesn't the to the environment and san francisco is on the cutting-edge so we applaud what the city is doing and encourage the adoption of this important ordinance thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners chair peskin joel koppel a part-time planning commissioner my day job it is the construction city i take care of the constitutional energy illustration we're excited to see that i want to talk about the construction portion of why this legislation is a no-brainer. >> for the future then to do it after the fact this completely makes sense our history is involved in the discussion and happy to be in full support of ordinance. >> thank you, commissioner. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon again koegd existed to be here to support in ordinance it was to make sure that san francisco adequately prepares for the vital challenges we know that lies ahead one of the gold to reduce the photo copy that means k345i7b9 new housing to make it - the data consistently shows the electrical vehicle is growing we want to acknowledge the hard work and a pleasure to work with them since last november they opt to marry their - to make sure the master and housing vendors are involved and whenever one the members has questions they were responsive and whenever a city department has a new policy proposal that impacts how the housing is in san francisco we look forward to engaging them when necessary and building this is as collaboration insures the building department's and we want to thank you for everyone involved on the issue thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. eddy executive director of right line defense a nonprofit that works onville issues at hunters point we worked with connecting bayview to the policy marking for the california public utilities commission the california energy commission to move forward to connect to all of a sudden communities this has been the taerlth of resources to make sure that community can get access to solar and energy effective and charging stations we're in support of readiness we believe that is an important policy to make electrical vehicles more affordable to the disadvantaged community and thank you to the advocates we've seen that envelopes so for purchasing or at large vehicles are increased into cool for instance, with the household with incomes excuse me - lens three hundred percent will equal to the poverty level we see incentives like the battery vehicles 7 thousand - the the infrastructure is a huge open o gallows to get an electrical vehicle that's why at california energy commission and public works continues to shift - we would like to see that happen at the local level and then like to thank supervisor katie tang and the mayor's office and the sf department of the environment for this for to create a clean job and cleaner community thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> it will supervisors i'm the fund and ceo of the services we're a san francisco based company that exclusively snauldz electrical vehicle chargers into apartment buildings we're currently in the process of construction in dozens of buildings in san francisco and i want to express our support for the ordinances and make a couple of comments to help one is according to the public california auto dealers last month 8.2 percent of all the vessels registered in san francisco were plug in so those say a tremendous number considering the population and highlight studies we've performed in with previous go legislation toe state level that had showed for every vehicle that becomes electric you're generating $10,000 a year in economic activity by eliminating gasoline $0.80 on gallons of gone that is roughly three hundred and three hundred 50 per vehicle in francis scott keys in the city and county of san francisco so currently electrical vehicles as well as equal lonely. >> thank you. >> mr. chair and supervisors i'm the director of policies for the center of sustainable energy to alert the renewable incur by renewable energy we happen to run the project that is the state program for electrical vehicles and for the infrastructure that is charging commit we'll be administering $200 million in block grant for the state to support the infrastructure i know never to go after safety and one up on numbers and many of the things i'll tell you is repeating what my colleagues said from sf environment in the position we're in with the data on all the electrical vehicle users across the state and to promote additional use it is absolutely true the logic we need to get more electrical vehicle chargers and make that infrastructure affordable and acceptable so we here to speak in strong support of this bill that is elegant and appreciate the amendments and the concerns to avoid additional costs to low income multi unit dwellers to the building residential sector and from our experience the amendments and many of the solution available in front of sf environment can provide those solutions we're all to commend this effort and thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> and any other members of the public line up to our right and my left. >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm charlie work on government affairs and i want to start off by seeing i think that ordinance makes sense for the new construction but to combat existing buildings ♪ ordinance didn't seem to makes sense we'll appreciate some effort to go biefkt the ordinance and perhaps reconsider how it effects existing buildings i think the department of the environment does great work and support them on many levels unfortunately it is just not a true statement that the managements or managers and owners of the housing are responsible and not on this ordinance the outreach is not there we you know, i watch our hearings our hearings every tuesday and >> sauce that what billed as new construction the ordinance becomes public on the agenda that was listed on thursday afternoon so we have a number of concerns i had a concern about the definition of the extent of the alteration but the bottom line in the reason the existing building is a different animal the wiring is not there the infrastructure is not there sub metering is not there not considered the vast majority of building were built before 1970 the building i'm in was built before 1911 so a number of residents - we would request a number of amendment that didn't apply to existing buildings we'll request exceptions for seismic retrofit supervisor peskin runs as a city expense and request for the building undergoing adu that seems like a thing that is the the straw that broke the camel's back we ask you - >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker, please. >> hi supervisors i'm a property owner and probably the only one speaking today as opposed to as you sit here now the policy and i'm simply echoing the other housing speakers here today this legislation should to the extent that is mandatory should be mandatory on new construction if you with go back and alone to the building inspection hearings that was billed as addressing new construction the lack of outreach is regrettable i hope that will be corrected this week for san francisco from a perspective the upgrades electrical upgrades can go triggered from the minor changes of the building simply put in a plug in a kitchen can trigger the need to put in a new panel and pg&e started talking about new transforms before you know that it is up to one and 50 thousand cost i noted the discussion about exemptions there is a definition between the language of the digest and what is exempted and the language in the code the code is much more vague and work has to be done on that to alleviate what is talked about. >> thank you, sir anyone from the public wish to comment for public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor tang. >> thank you very much for all your comments i definitely took not and will try to circle back to address some of the concerns i did want to just reiterate i think something that mr. hopper said this legislation is not actually going to trigger or didn't apply to - we don't trigger there in ordnance your electrical upgrades the jury traerthsz are additions where the external for memorable go and electrical and or plumbing systems are proposed under your own project not through our requirement here under that e b ordinance it is something i hope is clear on pages 4 and 5 under the definition other than we not tried to hide the ball that applies to major alterations it always has been in the legislation we can talk through overseeing for today's purposes i'd like to make a motion then to adopt the amendments that we have discussed in that sf environment and continue this for one welcome back to the next land use and transportation and then we'll have our follow-up conversation in the meanwhile. >> supervisor jeff sheehy. >> without objection we will adopt the amendments and continue this item for one week and that concludes our agenda we're adjourned [gavel] good afternoon everyone. this meeting will come to order. welcome to the april 12, 2016 regular meeting of the rules committee. i am supervisor ahsha safai chair of the committee. to my right is supervisor supervisor fewer and to my left will be norman yee but he's not here yet. our clerk is derek evans. i would like to thank staff at sfgtv for staffing this meeting. mr. clerk do you have any announcements today. >> yes thank you mr. chair. please silence all electronic dwiegs. eating and drinking is not a permitted. any copies and documents should be submitted to the clerk and items will be on the april 18, 2017 board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> thank you mr. clerk. please call item number 1. >> item number 1 is a hearing considering 14 members to the park, recreation and open space advisory committee. there are 14 seats and 14 applicants. >> thank you. unless there are any initial comments from the committee let's hear from supervisor ronin's aid and to serve elisa laird-metke and reanna tong and both district 9 see thes. >> thank you supervisor. i have someone here to speak on behalf of elisa and i will speak on behalf of much rihanna. >> thank you. >> thank you so much supervisors want. i want to speak on behalf of elisa who works in oakland and wasn't able to make today's meeting but excited about the opportunity to serve the city on the prosac committee. she's a 17 year resident of san francisco and her family and herself has been long engaged in the city's park's departments. currently living in the portola she's a stanch advocate for greening and one of the founding members of the port tola urban greening committee which is a diverse stakeholder meeting that meets monthly to discuss ways that we can build upon green assets in the neighborhood and open spaces and has been a great connector between mc clairein park and other assets in the district 9 and its residents and as such she's really excited to be able to serve the city on a broader scale and is particularly committed to accessibility. she works as a --let specific term of her career is a director at the disability resource center at merit university so she's really well versed in how to bring disabled citizens of san francisco into these public spaces and so that's something she's really excited about, not only for physically disabled but also those that might not have the economic or other ability to use our public spaces as much as we would hope so i really hope that you guys approve her nomination. she's really excited to serve. >> thank you. >> thank you supervisors so on behalf of the supervisor ronin ms. tong receives the highest recommendation and a native born to chinese immigrants from hong kong and a member of the school system and use are of the parks and part of the portola neighborhood association and bring focus to low income and working class communities of color particularly immigrant communities who are often left out of the decision process so she is passion to making the area a place for people from multiple generations and different backgrounds can enjoy public open spaces, and facilities. she is also passionate about improving pedestrian safety and bicycle access and street design and will bring that focus and expertise to prosac. she's a great candidate for seat number two and she will be honored to serve. >> thank you. colleagues any questions? seeing none we will go to -- seeing no questions from the committee let's hear from the third applicant natalie dillon. is natalie here? yes, please come forward. this is for seat number 4. >> hello. i'm natalie dillon. i represent district 4. so thank you for having us here today. i think this chamber is almost as beautiful many of our parks in the city but a little bit of background on me. i was born and raise 234-d san francisco in the heart of the mission district where i grew up in the parks. it was at mission playground and their partnership with arthur ash's non-profit and where i discovered by love for tennis and grew up playing on the courts and it was a place where race, religion and gender was a place that didn't matter but who was able to get the ball across the court and the sense of community that parks brings to cities is something very important to me. so tennis and mesa college where i walked on to the stanford tennis team exceeding my childhood dreams. i majored in urban studies taking a focus in urban -- taking a focus in communities ifed design and capped off my under graduate with a thesis on spatial relationship between graffiti and crime taking a close look in san francisco where just literature hasn't been dedicated to take without take without take without -- take taking a quantitative look and i will be excited to be on the committee and contribute. >> great. thank you colleagues. any questions for natalie? >> >> seeing none we will go to the next item. thank you ms. dillon. >> thank you. >> let's hear from our fourth applicant mr. nicholas belloni. that's for seat number 5. >> close enough. >> did i say that right? you. >> you are close. hello supervisor. i am nicholas belloni as we just got through. i am going for i think it's my last appointment now even though it didn't have a date on it when the seat five get out but i think this is my last appointment for prosac. i have been a member for -- god now a while, and a lot of things i have done. i helped work on the acquisition policy and in that time since i the acquisition policy sub-committee working group, whatever we called it back then we were able to buy parks in different areas of san francisco that needed it badly. i am looking forward to what i was able to accomplish and getting parks to the city and i grew up in the richmond district and born and raised 43 years -- yes, i am 43, in the richmond district and i have had parks around me all my life, golden gate park was my background. i had the luck of play soccer on the polo fields and took my parents that sat through the games in the fog and rain and take them to see paul mccartney, one of their favorites on the fields. you know those are the things that make parks special. we get to commute, we get to be there, and congregate and sees lots and lots of great cultural stuff, be there with our families, see kids grow up and play and have a great time and that's what it makes it special for me to be on the park board so i hope you guys reappoint me. thank you. have a great day. >> thank you. any questions? seeing none we will proceed to the next applicant, our fifth applicant and the chair of prosac currently and steffen franz. will you please come forward. >> greetings supervisors. thank you for having us today. my name is steffen franz and current one of the representatives for prosac in our district and currently the chair and have been for the last year. i was originally presented by supervisor alito pier and appointed twice by supervisor farrell and served as the chair and vice chair and sat on a view subcommittees and as well as working group. i own a music distribution and parking company that represents 7700 artists and labels. >> >> 700 artists and labels and the president of the friends of lafayette park board which i have been on for eight years including during that time the extensive renovation of the park. i also am the production manager for saturdays in the mark mc clooren which i have done for the past five years and about 28 shows in district 10. i very much am a dog advocate as well, and as such my love of parks stems from the amount of time i spend in our open space. i am a passionate about parks and open space and would like to continue my service on prosac for another term. >> thank you. colleagues any questions? seeing none let's hear from the sixth applicant mr. mark scheuer. thank you. please come forward. >> hi. i am definitely what you would call a park freak. i have been in a san francisco park literally almost every day of my life and in sunset district and park side square and when i discovered basketball i graduated to sunset gym. as an adult i have been involved with friends of those park for 17 years and was the president for ten years. i am -- i really believe that parks make a big difference in the quality of life for everybody and the thing i love about san francisco parks that you can go for free and there are so many things to do in parks and recreation centers. while i was on prosac for four, five years i served on the failing playgrounds committee and i also helped shaped strategic plan. i would like to continue on prosac to ensure that san franciscans have a free place to go every day of their life. thank you. >> thank you. colleagues any questions? seeing none let's go to the seventh applicant, mr. robert brust for seat number 8. >> thank you supervisors. >> if you could pull the mic up. there you go. >> yes, sir. so i am a resident of district 8 since 2008. i am founder of did lores park works, one of the several friends organizations for dolores park since 2009 and currently the chair. i am also a member of the san francisco parks alliance, proud husband and a proud pug dog owner. i am coming up on about three and a half years. i am reappointed to prosac hopefully, and i am very proud of the work i have done, our committee has done over the past three and a half years and i would like to just highlight three. we helped with the writings and promotion of prop b which i am sure you know of. one of our primarily responsibilities on prosac is acquisitions as people have already touched on and our work on the strategic plan, rec and park department strategic plan. so in prop b i think you're bottom with but let me go over it quickly. i think the most important part of the legislation it recognized the department and our city parks need for a predictable level of funding so they could properly staff and plan as we went forward. also one of the key things and this is something i think new for the department and not the city overall rec and park is required to have an equity component and their strategic plan as they go forward, and we were very, very happy to see that was included in the legislation and now as we're working with the parks department they're doing an excellent job. it was really easy for us to require them to do this, but the real job i think is now up to the department and us to watch as they implement this legislation. acquisitions -- i'm going just it to touch on two. both were a little hard because we were spending a lot of money. francisco park which used to be the fracisco water reservoir i believe it is going to be one of the grand jewels of the city, and what is going to be very interesting about this it's now it's going to be community funded. the neighbors have gotten together. they have pledged $25 million for constructing the park into a reservoir, the reservoir into a park and $150,000 every year thereafter. they have also agreed to a cooperative relationship with the parks department where the parks department will agree and the franciscan park conservatory who is set up to manage the money will also agree agree on a funding and a maintenance plan. the other which i think is the 11th street natoma plot which i think you saw yesterday at the full board and hopefully agreed to purchase. another large sum of money, almost $10 million, which we feel because of its location in a high need area and a growing urban core it is really worth the expenditure of money and finally the strategic plan which p ro sac is required to review and approve. we were able with this plan to oversee the equity components, things that we really care about like the maintenance of the trees and the park rangers which have been severely underfunded for many years, so we thank you for this opportunity. >> thank you. colleagues any questions? seeing none we can hear from the eighth applicant mr. anthony cuadro. for seat number 10. please proceed. >> thank you supervisor. good morning -- afternoon supervisors. supervisor yee. my name is anthony cuadro. i have been on the task -- on the prosac committee for six years and appointed by supervisor elsbernd and reappointed by supervisor yee and i grew up in san francisco and district 7 in forest hill and pretty much played in the parks my entire life and grew up by jp murphy playground and in the summer and played in little league baseball by park and rec and basketball at sunset rec center all throughout my child and have been an advocate for parks ever since. i have enjoyed my five place years on the committee and going for the final appointment before i term out. to highlight i have worked on the failing playgrounds task force with my colleague mark. we worked with several groups from within the city, from the boys and girls club, to other stakeholders to design that program and really use bond fonds to -- funds to refurbish play structures not up to suitability for children and we're very proud of the work with that. we used equity metrics that were used for the first time that we designed with within that group and applied to other projects and i am looking forward to continuing our work on that so thank you. >> thank you. any questions? seeing none thank you. we'll go on to the next applicant, our ninth applicant, ms. maya rodgers for seat number 12. thank you ms. rogers. please come forward. >> hi everybody. thank you for having me. my name is maya rodgers. i'm a native of bay view hunters point in district 10, co-founder of parks 92104 and social worker at heart. being a member of prosac and now second vice chair has been rewarding in many scbais positioned me to translate the often misunderstood governmental language for the people of district 10. i appreciate the opportunity. i am excited to continue this work if appointed. thank you. >> thank you. any questions colleagues? seeing none we will hear from our tenth applicant, ms. wendy aragon for seat number 13. please proceed. >> good afternoon supervisors. my name is wendy aragon and i am applying for seat 13 for district 1. i am really happy to be nominated by supervisor sandra lee fewer as well as an environmental justice organization that advocates for immigrant families and low income families. i grew up low income and grew up in apartments and townhouses and no open spaces and we had green pristine lawns that were not child friendly and every day we would walk a mile to our local park and without that we haven't have a place to be and be active and go to the "y" and play soft ball and essential for us growing up and i want all to have access to parks like that. to me equity is a huge issue. i am the chair for the public utilities commission citizens advisory committee where i have been working with the southeast community facilities commission and partners to ensure we build a new center for the southeast community that will have open space and be family friendly. i have been committed to environmental justice. i went to san francisco state where i was an urban studies major and focused on open space and land use. so i am really excited to be part of this committee and i hope i can make a big difference and hope to work with my colleagues in neighborhoods where they have concerns about their parks. thank you. >> thank you. colleagues any questions? seeing none we will proceed to hear from our 11th applicant mr. richard rothman for seat 14. please proceed. >> good afternoon supervisor. my name is richard rothman and i am asking to be reappointed to represent district 1 on prosac i am a richmond district resident and grew up in the district across the street from cabrillo playground and half a block from golden gate park and i moved back into my childhood house about ten years ago. i feel my role on prosac is to act as a liaison between the supervisor's office, rec and park and the residents. i want to help improve the dog parks and maybe have more dog parks to the richmond district area, and i am also concerned about people getting access to the park, and i think rec and park and mta should set up a safe routes to park program. it's not only being safe in the park but it's also walking safely to the park, and i currently serve as first five's chair helping set the agenda and i think our highlights of our input in prop b in working on the metrics to ensure that all areas of the city are equally treated, and input into the strategic plan. i really enjoy working because i feel that the rec and park staff while always not agreeing with us at least listens to our suggestions and the other thing that's important to me being on prosac and while most people think of rec and park as open space they also have a lot of cultural resources such as bridges and buildings and i am especially interested in the murals in coit tower and beach chalet and the one i have been working on, the building closed since 2000 is the building at the zoo and working with rec park and zoo and the art commission we're moving ahead and the only way you can see what the murals are i have a photo show just starting on display in supervisor fewer and supervisor tang's office and one can see what the beautiful murals are and why this building needs to be opened again to the public, so i ask for your -- to be reappointed to prosac. thank you. >> thank you mr. rothman. colleagues any questions? seeing none let's go to our 12th applicant, mr. jorell corpus for seat number 16. mr. corpus please proceed. >> my name is jor rel and i would like to thank -- the district supervisors especially supervisor peskin for his nomination for me -- >> can you put the mic closer to your mouth because we're having a hard time hearing. >> i would like to thank supervisor peskin for his appointment to be part of the prosac community. i was born and raised in chinatown north beach. i have previous experience restoring estuaries and the presidio, specifically kritionz chrissy field and part of the million man march and basically youth engagement with the neighborhood kids teaching basic seeds in propagation. excuse me. but pretty much -- yeah, i look forward to this appointment bridging the gap between our community and visitors of our park. i work across the street from washington square and yeah thank you. >> thank you mr. corpus. colleagues any questions? seeing none let's move to the next applicant ms. jame weil for seat number 18. >> thank you supervisors. my name is jame weil and i have represented district 6 on prosac since 2014. it's been exciting to work with other open space advocates from all over the city and i am honored that supervisor kim has renominated me so we can continue working together for the existing green space and create some more whenever we can. i live in mid-market which is the densest and open space deprived part of the city and working closely with park and rec staff and supervisor kim to identify potential acquisition sites so we can create some green space before it's all gone. it's been a long and arduous process but you will hear from us hopefully next week about our first acquisition on 11th street and hopefully one shortly thereafter. i represent several constituencies in the city and a homeowner and spanish speaker and kids that have used park and rec especially camp mather and working with park and rec staff i am impressed with the hard work and dedication and striving for program excellence. senior staff closely collaborates with the citizen representatives of prosac seeking and heeding our advice on policy and program and i am proud of our contributions to the programs my other colleagues have mentioned, the strategic plan especially the equity metric, the failing playground renovation fund, the new deltas soccer team in kieser stadium which is fabulous if you haven't been there already and fun working with people all over the city and visiting parks that exist in other districts that i didn't know existed and we try to visit each other's parks and understand what is going on in the districts and my district has identified as the highest priority for acquisition and maintain the poor little pathetic parks that we have and my colleagues have been extremely supportive. i have lived all over the country and committed to spending the rest of my time in the city and the best it could be but one sentiment. housing without open space is not healthy and we cannot build the high rise towers in mid-market with creating thousands of new units for families of all income without providing open space for them. it's really foley to let the developers create our open space as po, po, -- privately owned public space because they will put it where they want, on the roof, a dark corner and internal courtyards and it's not really open to the public. we need our park and rec staff to decide where the parks and the commitment and unfortunately it's expensive to acquire the open space in mid-market but we need the supervisors to back them and prosac and thank you for your time. >> thank you. any questions? seeing none we'll go to the last and final applicant, 14th applicant, ms. theresa factora for seat number 22. >> hi. good afternoon. my name is theresa factora. i'm a 20 year resident of district 11 where my husband and i have raised our two children. my children have benefited greatly from the parks and not just the open space parks but the programs as well that park and recreation provided for our kids. i live near john mclaren park and crocker and in the middle of both parks as well as my kids benefit from the parks i see the challenges on a daily basis of the parks and i just love the opportunity to serve the families in our community so those kids can have the same benefits that my kids have enjoyed for the past 15 years. thank you. >> thank you. any questions? seeing none we can move to public comment if there's any members of the public that would like to testify on item number 1 please come forward. speakers have two minutes and say your name and speak directly into the microphone. you may leave a copy of the documents with the clerk for the official file but line up to the right over there and if there's two people we can proceed. >> hi. i am program director for urban habitat. i oversee the boards and commissions' leadership institute which is a program designed to support and train people of color and low income folks to serve on regional and local commissions and boards, and wendy aragon is a fellow in our current cohort and so i am here to expression our enthusiastic bid for her. one thing about wendy i watched her enter into deep policy conversations and hold different opinions and perspectives togethers and also be move the group forward. she's empathetic. she's isn't afraid to identify commonalities and work using those as a foundation for moving forward. i am really excited about her bid and i believe that her commitment and service on the san francisco puc, cac has demonstrated her dedication to the city, her dedication to equity, to being accountable and a coalition builder. thank you. >> thank you. ms. ferry -- mr. fernandez. >> good afternoon. i am a people oh nicer and demanding economic rights and san francisco premier organization and we advocate for communities of color in san francisco. representation of different decision making processes. as chair of the sfpuc ms. argon has been a fundamental part of our campaign and increase affordable housing at the balboa reservoir and we're confident her commitment to making advisory spaces accessible, receptive, representative and equitable spaces will transfer right over to prosac so we fully support her nomination and ask that you move forward with her appointment with a recommendation of supervisor fewer. thank you very much. >> great thank you. are there any members of the public wishing to testify on this item? seeing none. public comment is now closed. [gavel] any additional comments colleagues or since there wasn't any comments any comments? >> no. >> i would like to -- oh go go ahead supervisor yee. >> i want to thank each of you for serving on this committee. my involvement with this committee was in the peripheral many decades -- several decades ago connected with the chinatown park and rec committee there and i know the role that you can play for our communities especially the community of color because many of those areas the opportunity for open space is just not there, so again i want to appreciate each one of you and the public that came out to support you. >> thank you. >> i will go ahead and make a motion. >> do you want to make the motion? >> i just wanted to make one short comment. i wanted to say quickly i really appreciate all the people coming out today. oftentimes people don't take seriously advisory committees but it's great to see this level of commitment. i know you all play an important role as being the eyes and ears out on the ground for rec and park commission, rec and park staff working effectively as you said on acquisitions and identifying opportunities to expand. i would like to say the issue of equity is really important, not only for underserved communities but communities that have the highest concentration of children in the city. i think this is an important role that prosac plays in making san francisco family friendly and selfishly i would like to see my appointment of ms. fact torah and ms. rogers and have the highest concentration of children and under the age of 18 and all the work and i appreciate you coming out today. colleagues can i explain a motion? >> yes, i would also like to say -- -- >> yes, please. >> thank you for coming out today and volunteering for being on this committee, and i will just say from my two appointments wendy aragon and richard rothman i am looking for a lot of collaboration with our district because i've got a lot of big ideas for golden gate park so roll up your sleeves and let's get to work and also you nick since you live in the neighborhood and it's great. sometimes on the committees we never meet personally so it's nice that you're here today and to meet all of you and see old friends again. great. so i think supervisor yee you wanted to make a motion. >> i will go ahead and make a motion to recommend or -- >> yeah, recommend. >> recommend that all 14 applicants to their appropriate seats with a positive recommendation to the board. >> second that. >> and just a friendly would be to the supervisorial nominations to the park, recreation and open space advisory committee with the full board positive recommendation. >> yes. >> great. seeing no objections the item is moved. [gavel] congratulations everyone. thank you for your service. [applause] >> thank you. >> mr. clerk please call item number 2. >> item number 2 is a hearing consider appointing four members on the commission on the aging advisory council. there are four seats and four applicants. >> great. thank you mr. clerk. unless there are initial comments from the committee let's hear from the first applicant ms. juliet rothman. is juliet here. great thank you. >> hi. thank you for having me here today. my name is juliet rothman and i live in district 3. i have lived there for 19 years. prior to that i lived in new york and maryland and the dc area and worked in those areas as well. i have worked as a social worker in the field of aging for 50 years, and i've had two different phases to my work. i worked in district practice direct practice and longs term care and counseling and consulting and multi-disciplinary planning and intergenerational work as well. >> >> i served on ethics committees and advisory councils, worked for the melt pull sclerosis society and had experience with hospice and their ethical issues. because of the ethical issues i encountered in long-term care and decision making and i went back to school as a mature student at 50 and got a ph.d in philosophy especiallying in ethical issues and life support decision making and after which i began teaching and taught at catholic university in the national school of social service for eight years before moving here and my areas of particular interest have been practice, cultural competence, aging, disability and death and bereavement. i moved here thinking i would retire but ended up teaching in cal for 15 years and the school of social west and public health again similar courses. we also -- i was very involved in initiating a course in multi-disciplinary coordination of services among various professional schools. i recently published a book on grandparenting and i am writing my second addition of a disability textbook now so now i am retired from teaching at cal and i am doing a lot of writing and painting and enjoying the city that i waited so many years to come to live in. i am very involved with aquatic park senior center. i serve on team lead which is their advisory council and i initiated their art gallery which has been very successful. i chair that also. i belong to san francisco village and co-chair a neighborhood circle there and mentor city arts and technology high school students as well. in thinking about the needs of san francisco's aging i just wanted to recognize that 19% of the people that live in san francisco are seniors, and that number is expected to rise, particularly the oldest seniors are expected to assume a larger portion of the population. because that will be a large increase it is most likely that they will have more special needs. they will have chronic illness, dementia, mobility, and self care el limitations and 33% also on have disabilities and a lot have multiple disabilities and happens often in older age and 6.4% of the population of san francisco are non seniors disabled people as well which makes the work of the council extra important. in thinking about the work that i hope to be doing on the council i think that as an elder now myself i am very aware that elders and people with disabilities face many problems. one of them tends to be invisibility. along with that is discrimination and bias. we are a very youth oriented society and older people are often on the side lines. there is a real need for meaningful and productive activity and social engagement and respect and creativity among the older population in san francisco. elders need to feel they're a part of the world around them and that they are fully engaged in the city and all of its activities. i think this is kind of a two way street, elders feel a need to contribute but they also have a lot to offer. elders have something that younger people don't have much of and that is time. they have time to do all kinds of projects and work with all kinds of people. they have wisdom. they have knowledge. they have experience and they have patience. all things that are a lot of value to the broader community. they can be great role models and they can be wonderful mentors as well, so i think it's kind of a two way win-win situation. elders need to take a more active role in the city and the city has much to gain from the added participation of elders so i would like to help integrate elders more completely into the life of our city. i'm also of course interested in developing and exploring services for this population. i have three immediate goals if i am appointed to the council. first of all i would like to learn more thoroughly about the needs and services of the eldarely and disabled population in district 3. secondly i am particularly interested in working with senior centers throughout the city and visiting the sites and helping them to coordinate services and develop programs to meet the needs of all seniors and people with disabilities all over the city, and thirdly i am particularly interested in looking exploring disability accommodations and services. i travel a lot and everywhere they go i look at urban planning and disability and how the city plans for accommodations for people with disabilities and would very much like to be involved with that with san francisco. thank you very much. >> thank you ms. rothman. it's wonderful. it's great to have someone with such tremendous experience to the table. colleagues any questions? supervisor yee. >> just curious. you can answer it or somebody else, but in regards to the [inaudible] advisory committee that will go through a planning process is the cac involved in that at all? >> i'm sorry. i didn't understand. . >> daas has received funding for the dignity fund and they're going through a planning process so are the cac members involved with that? >> i have attended meetings but i haven't served on the committee as well so far so i'm not aware of any involvement. i believe daas has its own advisory committee but i am certainly hoping there is a lot of coordination between the two. >> thank you. and i hope so too because it seems like -- at least that you and ms. rousseau who i know could offer many things to the group. >> thank you very much. >> >> thank you colleagues. any other questions for ms. rothman? >> i just have a comment and i want to say thank you. in my district the senior population is large and a growing population and actually some of the most lowest income group in my district and so i am also looking to organize the senior population in my neighborhood with our senior centers and senior services to come up with a couple of major projects that would benefit the whole senior community in the richmond district. >> wonderful. that's absolutely -- >> yeah, i think just a brief statistic that is 25% of the seniors in my district live 200% below the federal poverty guidelines so i think and with you know number 45 coming in and threatening to cut some of the senior services i am very concerned so i hope we can work together. thanks. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you supervisor fewer. colleagues any other questions? seeing none let's proceed to our next applicant, second applicant, ms. catherine rose russo. >> good morning, good afternoon i say this. i am cathy ru sso. i live in district -- sunset, district 7. i have i am a senior, definitely a senior for some years. i started out life in california. i'm a native californian in monterey county area on a farm and artichoke center of the world and watsonville and you knew everyone around the area and what was going on in their home. i was an elementary teacher for years and then bake a social worker and i did. >> >> i did work in san francisco with the program giving -- helping people having workers in their home, an aid to help them with things, and a nurse and i were in an office and again it was in sunset where i live, and we would evaluate the requests. send an aid in and supervise and i learned one thing when you first meet you're talking to people it sounds like they're really telling you what the situation is, but boy you better wait and find out. when you really get into it there can be some major changes in something like that. i also worked as a social worker in a acute care hospital in alameda county with people of all ages but that meant no matter the age we had psyche, surgery, everything. we were the hospital for the area, and when you worked to find homes -- place to live, place to get care you're looking at their total situation and the family situation. when i got ready to kind of retire i was getting near 70's i wanted to keep working but not a 40 hour week and seemed to me i was interested working with seniors and it's the senior programs that hire people who don't work a full 40 hour week. you can kind of adjust into it. they're more flexible than many other programs so i came back to the university here. got my masters in greon tolg feeling that would get me a job. now, i worked with foster -- program first -- a federal program and helping seniors who wanted to return to work who had been home for many years so we had to help them define what they want, look for a job, maybe get more training, make connections. wow, it was a real experience with the different services for seniors, how people look at them, and how they themselves handle themselves. then i worked at foster grandparent senior companions and worked with low income seniors from the city, foster grandparents. we put them with schools where they would work with a teacher with a class or senior companions. we worked with senior centers where they would go in and help with the teacher, so that was of course working with them and the community resources was interesting, and you always learn more, but i also working with them learned a lot about the retirement homes and places in the city, and how they vary in what they do for people. i worked -- let's see. when i retired i got involved in of course activities, but this advisory council is an important one for me because i care about what goes on in my area but when you're working with a group of peoplure our seniors, who gives them the services? who is evaluating what is there? how are we judging and getting to them? these are the people working directly with the seniors and how do they do it? and we keep aware of what is available, what is on, what is going on, and we look at the rules coming down and how to do it, and what should we be involved in? now, i am the advisory own's rep on coalition of agencies serving the elderly in this case. case is made up of persons in charge of programs for seniors. they run the senior centers and other programs for seniors, and to hear what they're concerned about, what they see is happening and their feeling is important, and i can take something back to case with it. i go to their meeting. i'm not a voting member but i go to all their meetings and interact and they're an excellent, excellent program but it's so important to know what they're doing and another program i work with is coalition of agency serving, you know, -- i work with the -- >> ms. rousseau can you wrap up in one minute so we give everyone equal time. if you have a couple more minutes i am happy to hear it. >> they always wait seniors to be faster than we are but you're right. >> i don't want to be rude. >> you're not being rude. you are just keeping the thing going. i really enjoy what we're doing. it's challenging at times as we try to figure out what is happening and to make our recommendations to the different programs but we work at it and i'm the representative to tac and tac is the one -- we meet in -- you know as all of the reps from all of the associations in california and we meet quarterly. we are meeting in may, our next quarter. and we talk about what is going on. our last meeting we were hearing that they were concerned about cuts to funding for seniors but they weren't certain yet exactly where they were going to be and what they were going to be and you really can't find it and do something about it until you identify it so i am really interested going back next month and finding out what they decided is the area

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