Departments ing this evening. Corey the Zoning Administrator and tina tam the deputy Zoning Administrator representing planning and Kevin Birmingham with the department of building inspection the guide lines as follows, turn off all phones and Electronic Devices so they will not disturb. No eatying or drinking in the hearing room. Appellates, permit hold and ares respondents begin 7 minutes to present and 3 for rebuttal. People affiliated must include comments in the 7 to 3 minute periods members not affiliated have 3 minutes to address the board and no rebuttal. For rehearing requests the parties upon given 3 minutes each with no rebuttal. Our legal assistant the warn you 30 seconds before your time is up. 3 votes are required to guarantee an appeal or to grant a rehearing q. If you have questions about a rehearing the board will electric autoaskeds e mail the board staff. Public access and participation are of importance to the board. 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We will move on to item 2. Commissioner comments and questions . Any comments or questions. Nope. We like to welcome mr. Gib ner but he is not here yet. He is in [inaudible]. He is here. John, welcome and thanks for your support during the time you are here. Thank you. Thank you. Why great. Is there Public Comment on this item . Raise your hand. Are is no Public Comment. We will move on to item 3. The adoption of the minutes before you for discussion and possible adoption are minutes of september 7 of 22 meeting. Any a motion or comments . Commissioner trasvina like to approve the minutes as presented. Do we have Public Comment to adopt the minutes. Commissioner trasvinas motion to adopt commissioner lopez. Aye. Commissioner lemberg. Aye. Politic swig. That carries 40 and minutes are adopted. Now move on to item 4. This is a rehearing and the request to rehear. Yes. Why this is rehearing 22051 at 118, 15th avenue. George tederby requesting a rehearing of 22051 decideod august 17 of 22. Upon motion by Vice President lopez the board voted deny the appeal and up heldz the notice of violation the Zoning Administrator did not use discretion and it was properly issued. The determination was restored to tederby. The Zoning Administrator in violation of planning code 174 and 75 due to the failure of completing the abate am work for the legalization of unauthorized construction work including alterations to the roof and front facade and removal the dwelling unit on second floor and fire wall in the year yard. The property is authorized for 2 family dwelling unit this is complaint and we will hear from mr. Tederby first you will have 3 minutes. Upon are these minutes recorded can i get copy of the minutes. This is video recorded. I can get copies of the minutes from last time and this time. And then also i have a question. Sir this is your time to present. Are you able to over turn Planning Department in the [inaudible]. At this point the rehearing is explains is for you to determine. Im trying to answer your question hold of at this point you are making a request to rehear the matter and you at this hearing you need to establish there is new evidence or man dest injustice. That believe im subject to manifest injustice. I wanted determine whether you had the power to not at this hearing now. Entertaining your request. Mr. Rosenberg stated a bunch of stuff and failed to mention the left time i was here i asked what is it that takes planning to get off my back after 6 years . I feel that i have been there is a misrepresentation and inequalable treatment of my property and neighbors property and several properties i show you evidence of that. I want to talk about mine at this point. Last time ms. Tammy my upon dem Zoning Administrator said, for me to satisfy plannings requirements i need approval of dbi of the facade. I did that. Also there was a 3 thousand dollars plus fine that there were no invoices. No idea of where it came from. How it started my request to get was ignored. Bite way the [inaudible] said i will take care television and i did. I got dbi to do an inspection and went out and kelly wong the [inaudible] supervisor. And i started e mailing them on the 24th. Did what you want according to the board. Figure out how to deal with had fine. You want the invoice you know. Who thes it for. I got no response the time went on and have 10 day its appeal on the 26th it turns out i paid my 150 bucks and im here. 6 days later gets an e mail work it out. And wong come become and says you know she had no idea what tina tam told you guys. She come up and says i want to be a [inaudible] ipment to keepow this indefinite fine indefinite never ending fines and penalties bite department that has nothing to do with building. I have no problem with building my permits are in in order. Plumbing paddle and appliances i know wham to do. I dont need planning on me especially since i have done everything they wanted with. Zoning administrator can tell when you she wants and have it over turned by individuals unelected bureaucrats. You know what power do you got im here to ask for justice and reconsideration of this thing and by the way, to alleviate the negotiations of fine we paid it. There is in problem with the fine. [inaudible] i have proof here i show it to you on the over here you want to see it. You can show it on the over head. Your time is up. Thank you. Yea. Would you like to see that. I have done when you wanted. I would like to make you comfortable and like to see the can upon we seat receipt on the over head. Here is my job card. There is the 2016 ends 4103 the permit and violation. Here is the sign off. Right there. Showing that this building well is the facade. Applies with this picture. There is the picture. That is upon the proof to approval. There is the picture. Belling inspector say its complies. It did. And i never get off the hook. When will this ends . Why do i have to deal with planning when they are different from building. We will hear from planning we have a question from commissioner lemberg. And ms. Rosenberg the other things you mentioned those are bureaucratic mumbo jumbo. Im a physician you are attorneys everybody has their lingo planning has their own lingo. Thank you. Then and there mr. Lemberg has a question and i will. Thank you. I do, mr. What you are presenting that is now. The filing. You are body the public go to for justice and you have the power to do something about it for the public who has no accomplice to go other than the courts. When you make a determination i, as a public individual node to do this and that and i accomplished the goals and i did my part and im not let off the hook how can they make the rowels and change and you have no power . You can do it or cant do it. You know. The question is not whether we have the ability to do it, we do that is fantastic that does in the answer my question what are you presenting to us that is new . What is new is that the facade was signed off by dbi. And the fine was paid in total. And if you checked the e mails from kelly wong the supervisor in the [inaudible] code enforce am part i can read it if you like or put it up. It say we will not let you off the hook until dbi gives you clearance. And may be we will do it or may be we will not. Or fine you more. No receipts or invoices. Follow up question. You paid the fine and dbi signed off on the property what are you attempting to have reheard . I want a manifest injustice. You as a body told me the rules i followed them. Okay. Last time i was here. Tin an tam has 2 masters and knows how to talk the talk. Do this. And you are fine. And then the next thing is the issue. Noninvoiced bilge of over 3 thousand dollars. And rather than discuss that knowing there was no response for me to the chief Zoning Administrator tegs and mrs. Wong or ms. Wong. We paid it. To be done with temperature her response is, you paid the first part but dont know how much more tell be. I can read it to you it is crazy. The president come out on memorial day saying half of america is his enemy. Crazy times. You know. Like. [inaudible]. It is like. [inaudible] lets stay on the subject you answered his question. Yes. Thank you. Mr. Trasvina. Doctor, i hear your frustration loud and clear. I can speak for my colleagues we hear your frustration. It is not we have members of the public it is disappointing you feel you have to be back here but you do. My question is whether you want us to undo any of the actions we took the left timure were here or whether you are simply seek nothing frustration. A way for the department or departments to respond to the actions you have taken since the time. No response. At all. Until 6 days after my attempts to address these issues with the appropriate individuals in planning. And only after i made this appeal request this they responded. And responded with no change. In the like you know deputy Zoning Administrator tam said you node to do this you did it you are fine. You are good to do. We are done. If you could try again and answer attempt to answer my question a different way. Is there an action this body took you want changed. Yes. What is that . I would like you to reconsider your denial of my initial appeal. And take my evidence as good enough and determined that i have done my required duties under this and it over and no open ended fine scheme that would go on forever. You know i dont understand. You know how up expect people tom plan to develop in this town and do good. I have your question answered. Thank you. We will try one more time. All right. We left here work hard together. We accomplished what i thought was a goal and correct me if im wrong that you would go to dbi and give you a sign off. Did dbi give you a sign off. Yes. Then, and im comfortable that i agree with you. Okay. Then that sign all according to planning was all they needed to if you paid the fine, according to tina tam. Yes. Cording to what i heard. You got a good memory. I try a little bit. And according to planning you get the sign off you pay the fine. We are done. Thats what i heard. Thats how i understand it. That the question is you want mow to ask planning is are we done yet . Thats it. Thank you. Simple. Thank you very much. Okay. Well hear from Planning Department. Thank you. Good teaching president swig, Vice President lopez and the board im tina tam deputy Zoning Administrator. This is i rehearing request for the appeal of a notice of violation and pent decisions that issued to the Property Owner at 1182120, 15th avenue. It was issued on june 30, 2022. The appellate is one of the ordinance of the property and the appeal was heard on august 17th. You may recall the board voted denight appeal. Despite the appellates belief he has not satisfied the requirements necessary to abate the violation. The violation is for ill willing work for the exterior and interior of the building. To date the corrective permit filed in upon 2016 has yet been fully inspected or deemed complete. I understand that the owner did call for an inspection after the appeal hearing, he requests that the inspection be only of the front facade. On august 23 of 22 on the day of the inspection the inspector was not provided access to the interior of the building. Of such the inspector did not inspect the inside or reminder scope of work under the corrective permit there is no indication of when the correct ever work will be completed or when the permit can become final. And the enforcement case in planning remains open. The Planning Department asked the board deny the rehearing request on the basis there is no manifest injustice no new information or different facts if such facts and circumstances were known at the time of the august 17th hearing they would have affected the outcome of the hearing there is in fine or penalties assessed on the property at this time. What he is referring to is staff time and material. To recover the work we have done to continue to track and work with the owner and the dbi ensuring well is progress in abating a violation. That concludes my report. I have a couple questions. Well is no new information and there is no according to associated with the hearing that we had, i dont siemens fest injustice. Now that we have may be my fellow commissioners will agree with me. But from my heart of hearts i gotta satisfy my own curiosity. Okay. When we left here i recall that dbi was going to inspect and the focus of that inspection from when i heard and i did not review the entire case im going from memory this we walked out saying dbi will inspect. I agree. And there is a focus on the windows and the emphasis that i recall is not on the interior. That does not mean anything. But that is what i recall is the focus on windows. If my recollection is incorrect that is where my memories come back. So i recalled dbi. And so i will stick with when we agreed to which is dbi will do an inspection they will come up with whatever the sponsor needs to get done and you will close the issue . With regard to the fees. Im hearing they are not penalties. Thank you very much. For this information. They are not penalties they are not fines. Correct something yes. They are staff time. Is there a possibility so that and this has nothing with the case in whether we are going to move this rehear this. I stated my point of view at this point. Just for my information for to help the psyche of the satisfaction of our customer who is a member of the citizenry of San Francisco, is there an invoice backum staff time that you can provide him, please. To give you satisfaction that his 3 thousand dollars is actually going can reconcile to staff time and hours, please. Can that be done . Please . Yes. Thank you for the question. My recollection of the hearing on august 17th the inspection should take place for the corrective per mitted that corrective permit covers a lot of scope of work and i think julie was. Clear what. I will not argue with the different types illegal done that needses to be inspected the window is one aspect of the permit. And in terms of the billing invoice we do have an invoice for all the charges required everybody in Planning Department are required to count for every 15 of minutes we spends on a case and happy to print that out for him. I appreciate you probably do, i appreciate that you will make that available to the gentlemen so that at least the satisfaction will be able to reconcile his payment. Thank you for the clarification of the inspection and i hope the inspection is done quickly and that you are able to resolve your issues. Thank you. Thank you. We will hear from the department of building inspection. Good evening president swig and the board. We did do called out for site inspection to look at the front facade of the building performance sorry. Um on august 23rd. And it does conform to the drawings. We did not inspect anything inside the building. He has the valid permits to complete the work. Upon once he is ready to complete we will inspect. What do you need. Are you done . Yes what do you need the project experience to ask you and what time will, space do you need to get your inspections done after hearing what you are about to tell mow he needs to tell you. He needs to complete the project. Clear inspections and the electric, plumbing and fire signed off andy wool final the job. Thank you very much. I have it clarity on that. Okay. Thank you. Is there Public Comment on this item. Raise your hand. Okay. I dont see Public Comment. Commissioner this is matter is submitted. Commissioners, i made my point i see no new evidence i see frustration that is not part of the deal. I dont siemens fest injustice i see the inability you lack communication the inability of 2 parties to have i Clear Communication with each other what i teamed do is open the communication, be clear what the project experience has to tell dbi and get in return i hope that was clear. And resolves the issue of the payment. With regard to the issue at hand which is rehearing i see no new information and i dont siemens fest injustice unless anybody else does i like to make that motion to deny the request for a rehearing on that basis. Commissioner trasvina wants to weigh inform i want to agree and associate myself with the comments and perspective that presiden