[reading code]. I believe the Department Representatives will go first at the department and the appellant each other 7 min. To present their case and 3 min. Of rebuttal time. Staff joe dr. Dbi. Just complaint number 201478091, the complaint was received by dbi from the Fire Department for a fire building. That was on 9 june 2014. The were violation issues. The second notice of violation on july 9, 2014 and since that time its gone through Code Enforcement. Obviously after the second notice it went through the usual process. They ccontinuance is andwhether whenever the hearing would have allowed. It ended up in a on 4 may 2016, 80sorry, the order of business was issued on the 12th of november 2014. So, were now doing with it may of 2016. It was fire damage to the link and this was actually the second fire for the building could do the fire in 2013. We also have another case in 2008 for actually, illegal construction. At this time, we have one Building Permit that was 23rd to the notice of violation. No work has taken place on the permit yet. So, the department has followed all of its processes. We believe that the water is properly issued. We would ask the board to uphold our order. Im available for any questions. President mccarthy is the water of abatement recorded already . Staff the water of a vegan is issued but it doesnt say here that was recorded. President mccarthy has been recorded yet . Staff i imagine so, yes president mccarthy is a reason why the appeal was made in november of 2014 and were getting it today . Staff the order of damon was issued in 2014. The appeal date isthe board application was filed on 11252014 but im not sure its taken until now. I dont have that information. Commissioner walker i think thats a long time. Staff yes, it is good those notes in the complaint tracking system where people are talking back and forth within apartments. The 20 way to those of violation was sent to the Attorneys Office and i noticed the owner or representative have had discussions with the City Attorney, but im not clear why its taken from 2014 until now. Maybe the representative from the property many could speak to that. Commissioner walker so this is not an appeal its a request to reverse . Staff yes commissioner walker i do of questions on our side why it was never filed in the last two years. Commissioner melgar was there residential unit was occupied . Juno would happen to the tenant . Staff i dont have information on that. Im not sure what the description was. Its a twostory residential over onestory commercial. A dry cleaner. To residential over commercial. I imagine that this building if you had fires and we dont have any broken permits to fix it i would say the building is vacant. You might hear more from the representative of the owner on that. And what the plans are. There are notes that theyre planning to demolish the building andmaybe they change their mind to fix the building can maybe build a mosque that commissioner melgar theres no occupants in the units upstairs . Staff i dont know that for certain but we did have the earlier fire so that never got and it repaired wasnt taken to zero, taken out of apple we dont have inspection history on that. Again, this is an appeal to reverse the order of abatement and provide more time to comply with the notice of violation. So, but we dont weve had a lot of asking for time on different notices of violation dating back to 2008 but we dont have any physical banning onto the building at the start. That i can find. President mccarthy okay. Testifier my name is bob milky representing the owner of the property. First of all, there were two fires. The body was occupied at the time of the first fire and the occupant left after that five. The second floor of the building was totally unusable. Ive got some pictures here that could show the conditionthe question was, at that pointthe question at that point, do we make the repairs and comply with the notice of violation or demolish good we had engineers out to several engineers, Dan Barringer was out. They strongly recommended demolition on the building. Its way beyond 50 salvageable. Not only was a fire damage it was a significant amount of termite damage and dry rot as well. The building is currently vacant and its not being used by the business. It hasnt been occupied as residents. Date it has been burned out. So, what our proposal is, we are now at the office of Community Investment infrastructure, oh cii the replacement of redevelopment because its in a whats called a triangle. This is a Redevelopment Area. Were working at redevelopment on a project of which we hope we were to meet this month, the 17th, we will meet in june the fourth the approval of this proposal and the proposal is a seven unit over commercial building. Some sick stories in height. I pictures here. This is the idea of the proposal. You can see it. The building next door, but building on innes and third was constructed just a couple years ago. New construction. So, what we are asking the board to do today is if you could hold the order of abatement, or send it back, basically we like it sent back to staff for a period a better than six months and we are requesting the assessment be held as well. We are perfectly willing today administrative cost. Thats not the point. But were in the process of building a brandnew building. We have been working part of the problem of outreach to the community and we work to the local Community Group and the supervisor in this district and so on. The project is pretty well along. We anticipate approval from oh cii for the site permit and then well go in with the demolition permits, and we hope we can do this within the next 34 months. Anticipate will be hearing with the oh cii in june or july and at that point going for demolition permit. Immediately. Therefore, we will request the could put a band on the order of abatement and so we can proceed, if there is an order on the title it makes it easier for lenders because were going to have to lend. This is a 3 million3. 2 5 4 Million Dollar project were looking at. Thank you. Any questions im here for. Clerk questions . Rebuttal for each. Staff commissioners, i dont have too much to add. I did check with the planning to comment because i said earlier i could not find anyi did see some conversation regarding this new building project with the Planning Department this morning. The only semblance of any movement from their preapplication a year ago on this address but nothing since. So i just want to add that as well. Commissioner walker did you check with oh cii also . Staff sorry, no i didnt. I would not access to that. We would normally check our own permit tracking system and sometimes will reach out to planning to see if theres anything in the pipeline in regards to that. Commissioner walker thank you. Testifier the case is in oh cii. Not with city planning. Normally it would go to city planning but its because its in a Redevelopment Area acres do a yahoo cii and by the way the building is vacant. The owner of the building is he runs a dry cleaning establishment had been there for 40 years. He was to build the building and go back into business. Thats our plan. Thank you. Public comment on this item . Commissioner walker thank you all for coming in and giving us information about this. I think its been sitting around for too long. First of all, im not clear why something that has that order of abatement pending either wasnt filed or wasnt appealed at the time of the order of the recommendation of the department. Though, having it in front of us now, with what was presented, i think that it is appropriate to consider upholding the order of abatement and putting a timeframe on it for a series of events. At some point a permit needs to be applied for, maybe three months out. Something needs to start by six months were the order attaches. This is lingered for two years and im sure there were not conversations all the time so i think we need to accelerate rebuilding this, giving some support to the Property Owner as well as encouraging them to make this right. Mayor lee i would second the motion as well. I believe the fire damage we see seem to sit there and it is probably insurance and things like that. In the spirit of trying to see some progress met here, and understanding the process and funding for new application i would be in support. The problem work than i have though is three months is bubbling up in a be a enough. I dont know how long were you thinking . Commissioner walker i was thinking three months to apply for a permit because at this point a lot of the delay is because of lack of doing anything. Im convinced if theres nothing encouraging these things to be rebuilt and dealing with the violations then theres nothen they linger. It hurts the community and it just becomes an eyesore and affects everything around it. This isthis was house and its not housing anymore. To the project sponsor, if i may, let me just erect a question first. Commissioner Walkers Point you are always a good demo this building could be started the process of application for meeting the criteria . Testifier where at oh cii for what would be the site permit in the normal course of things it went to city planning and bs site permit. Which is our proposal. If they approve we will take out we will pay the fees. We will go will pay the fees and absolutely get a demolition permit as soon as we can. The building is dangerous. Its secured, but anybody going in there and its vacant we want to take it down and take a permit out. So that would be a separate line. That would be a separate path. The demolition permits . You can only get the demolition permit us to get approval the site permit. not going to be holding off on the demolition out but based on planning approval with you no. Oh cii is the one thats approving. Its totally in therejust think of oh cci errors if they were city planning. Strongly in the shop. Thats why would like to delay the water. I fully concur that the timeand we are concerned about the time, also. We want to move it along as fast as we can because we got people in Place Investors in place, to buy. Everybody is anxious to move. If we can all be order, and will pay fees or whatever, just Holding Order for because i anticipate that in june or july we been pushed back several months i oh cii. We should get approval. We in test bite will get a primal right away, demo permit and move ahead in the prospect commissioner walker my motion is to uphold the order of abatement, hold it in payments for three months pending for the application of a permit related to the project moving forward. If they dont issue it in three months, then we have the ability to modify it. Same house, same call thank you commissioner commissioner walker am i correct, City Attorney if they come back and asked for more time because the permit has [inaudible] City Attorney commissioner walker my motion is that we uphold the order of abatement, hold it in abeyance, with a threemonth clock for three months for them to secure a permit. If a permit doesnt get secured, in some way, then the case would bethe order City Attorney that it would be finalized that make sense. Staff commissioners, if you want to put the overhead on i have some photographs that have not shown you. This is the front of the building as you can see in pretty bad shape. Im not sure they have a emergency demolition order would you be a lot quicker. They say the demolished this building weve had two fires has been vacant. Might be something that we would consider for that and im not sure if theyve got down a path which is a lot quicker and that then removes the all the violations as well actually if the building is come. If it qualifies obviously have to meet the criteria for that but something thats available if they wish to pursue that. Maybe mr. Milky has done that already. Im not aware of that. Clerk thank you. I would remind the board again if the board finds the life safety hazard the property that extend the time per not to correct them, the order must say that work to correct each hazard commences in 30 days be completed within 90 days of the water and thats if you find life safety issues. Commissioner walker regarding the emergency demolition . No. If you find theres life safety issues on the property. Commissioner walker i got it commissioner konstin do have to go to planning which are approved . Testifier no. Oh cii will approve in place the planning and then ill go through building structure. Commissioner konstin how long has it been in oh cii testifier its been going on a year. Also, we are notim not familiar with the emergency demolition. Will be happy to go deleting it is believed one down we be happy to do it. Commissioner walker i mean, to that and it could be a caveat in our motion that under inspection. Because i want to provide some options for the you all. If there is, if the facts on the Ground Support and emergency demolition, if their life safety issues, i do think that we have to speed up the time frame to comply with the walls, which meanslets talk about this. It gets complicated in a motion. Clerk go ahead commissioner can i asked mr. David to come back up your and answer something good it sounded like the department did not know that the Property Owner or applicant was going to a redevelopment process staff right yes. I researched the case. I look in the tracking system thats what i look at. But i check with planning this morning not let me ask you now that you know that perhaps spell is going to the process, what would the department have done before it reached here . What that would be done at that hearing staff nothing. I think we followed are positive our Code Enforcement processes in place and thats always there. You know come i dont see anything in the notes about oh cii to be honest with you. Thats the first ive heard of it as well. Code enforcement, you always have the option of getting a case returned to staff or whatever. Because we do work with people all the time. But we did not see any movement as such on that. Oh cii, thats great. Thats good news for everyone that theyre going to move but how long is it going to take. I see notes in the file going back that they were securing permits four years ago to repair the building, to do this. Maybe something will happen again and things will fall back to the wayside. It seems like a lot of talking over the last 78 years but we still have a building that is a legal construction and part of that illegal construction has two fires did it was a dry cleaning business built without a permit so you would wonder with the mechanical system building properly because the fires . This building is a hazard and honestly, turning it down and rebuilding is great but we have not seen i can actions speak louder than words. But its great if theyre going to that process. If you want to give them time to do that, but on the third notice of violation you. Commissioner lee if the appellant submitted this to the planning from and what were the planning to come and have done . Sees that no different. I mean, it depends on the process. A demolition permit going to planning on record process without using the emergency demolition, i dont have to tell any people but the commissioners i think its through a few rear process. You see these things taking 34 years from start to finish just to get to a process where you can actually build. But i mean, im not even sure personally where i look at oh cii action. That would be great if mr. Milky had something here to present to us to show us back and forth meetings with the application, whatever process that is with oh cii. I have not seen it. His tone is that and thats great good its good news but i dont havetheres no documents in my file to show me that. Which is always better when youre standing here trying to speak to these things mr. Duffy, having been out to the building do think there are life and safety issues at that the link . Is it possible there might be a third fire and affect the buildings next door . Staff im not sure what caused the first part but the first fire happened in the building was a business and 30 sure that. Im not sure that business was there on the side. I dont think was because [inaudible] but anytime you have a building setting for several years in this condition, i would say, yes, it is that hazard. Theres deftly a life safety issue. Its honestly sitting on the street and this is a photograph i have in the file. Actually, im going to suggest we at amendment the motion. Commissioner walker i think Deputy Director wanted to talk about the process. Optic happy to call oh cii. I dont doubt they have a year sounds reasonable. According to the project sponsor is can it get he will know one way or the other whether well get approval for that we turn down in the next two months. Once they have approval for a new building the demolition we could probably issue within a few days. The problem is, we cannot issue it until the new building is approved by oh cii. They come in as a package. Commissioner walker so, what if the oh ciiwhat if they linger in their decision and we still are faced with this building. This process . Towards the motion i want to make, i want to give an option to do this separate. Director as a new building that theyre going to be structurally architectural mechanical just from dbi alone. Fire has to look at it. It also has to go to dpw, puc, good it will go up to maybe 13 stations. Each with its backlog, each with its workload. They could be in our department the next three emma four, five months provided its a good set of plans, provided a respond to comments given in a quick manner. We could probably get them out of the department in threefive months. Commissioner walker once the plan comes to us that approved by oh cii, are we able to approve the demolition so that we resolve the outstanding issues director we are. Were not allowed to issue it because the new buildingits part and parcel. Planning calls it a missing tooth. They dont want a missing tooth in the middle of the block. Things happen. Things dont get built and then youre stuck with this gap in the block. Commissioner walker we are to have a rating of two. Our City Attorney just the opposite. Im sorry, isnt that what you just said that we could act on emergency demolition . Commi