Folsom probably should happen for this particular part of the neighborhood so before i follow up on 17th and folsom do you want to say anything about that mr. Cruz . I was going to respond to a couple things that were brought up. Sure. First of all i want to say the puc has been responsive and we are trying to meet with the community and really trying to do everything we can in balancing the overall needs of the system and the specific needs of this community. I can personally empathize because even though i dont live in San Francisco my house flooded in december and i put in a new floor and had to rip it out because of the size of the storm in december. We agree with a lot of the things that the residents said. We agree with the expansion of the Grant Program. That was the first time the city ever did Something Like this and went through one year and wide open to changing it so we agree with expansion of the program. We will work with the City Attorneys Office on how to expand that. One of the gentleman said for 15 years it was fine and now its gotten bad. That really is not a change in our system as i said earlier. Thats a change in the rain patterns and we again agree with that and trying to deal with that but have to stress that whatever we do and even if we were to spend billions of dollars when a 25 year storm hits we will flood. We cannot as a city ever invest enough money to deal with that storm. Its just not an effective use of public funds. I understand the frustration when you look at the parking lot and its not flooding and Everything Else is but the parking lot is 18 inches higher than the street and thats part of the reason why it doesnt flood, so we do recognize this. I heard someone say expand sewer capacity. We did do hydraulic analysis and basically thats what were thinking about a connector tunnel to do effectively what the gentleman was suggesting. Widening the street doesnt do that for us and we need a minimum capacity to make an impact. There is no way to widen tweet sufficiently to store 150 milliongallons and widen it to move it doesnt work because it moves it to another back up point so weve done numerous analysis. We believe we understand the technical problem. We put costs to the technical problem disps problems and need to figure do that and i love the idea about a committee. And we will do that. I clearly believe that dialogue is important. I thank you for setting up this hearing because it gives us a chance to give the Bigger Picture and the technical information. It gives the neighborhood a chance to give us specifically the things that they experience and we can share ideas. Together we do want to solve this problem. We do have some real challenges here and i dont think theyre insurmountable but somebody said you just cant take a piece of the city and say you cant live there im not there yet. I think from a policy perspective if we decide to acquire property and convert it into park or Collection System or as the gentleman said low points that maybe the best thing for the city from an overall cost perspective. I will leave that to the policy makers. Well generate the data and information and work with the community. We do sympathize. I was out there in december and walking through 2 feet of water in some of the residences so i know what they went through, and so i am sorry that were here but were are working on it. Before we go on to 17th and folsom can you Say Something to the other residents . Yes, just as stephanie is leading 17th and folsom another staff member saeed is working on that situation. Theyre complicated by the freeway work there. The woman that spoke her property is at ground zero and experienced the greatest flooding. Technically it should be easier to address than 17th and folsom and have a white paper within the two weeks of the completion of 17th and folsom and somebody referenced the sewer system failure. I take issue to that. It performed to design. The storms are beyond what we designed the system to and thats what we need to address. [inaudible] thank you very much. [inaudible] you want to come up . [inaudible] in youre going to Say Something i do want you to why are places like 18th castro for example higher than both of these areas i think. Why are the main lines feet in diameter and come to 18th and folsom and what did we decide today . Theyre 18 inches in diameterral folsom so how does that mean the infrastructure its been replaced back to the original size. Im not a plumber and maybe i am ignorant in math but thats pathetic. You have that size pipe all the way down 18th street until the corner and in a transfer box that shoots water 16 feet out of the man hole cover and floods the street because of the pipe 18 inches in diameter. Thats ridiculous. Maybe not your fault either. Mr. Cruz anything to add to that . Only i welcome the notion of a committee so we can look at the analysis. If i may to the folks that came out on the kyuga issue were certainly happy to advocate for a response and we will pass it on to your supervisor as well. I think that i appreciate that you came here to raise that issue and i am sure that you will get something not only from the puc but hopefully from your supervisor. On the 17th and folsom piece let me say that i truly feel for the residents and the reason that we wanted and the Business Owners the reason we wanted to have this hearing is this is something i have been dealing with on an yearly basis, and were happy to work with the community, to work with the puc. As the storm happens but i feel that we need to figure out a short term, midterm and longterm solution here. And i welcome the idea of a working group. And those that dont know mr. Cruz as i know. I have worked with him for years and hes a capable individual you can get and were lucky hes involved and he really cares. With that said i do think that we need to have a complete outline of what steps the city is going to take. If there is a longterm objective of 2020 thats fine if that is something that eventually will be a permanent solution but we just cant say we will wait until 2020 and thats when something will be done. We have to have a plan that call it is for specific short term and midterm action. I think having a working group makes a great deal of sense, and i am committing myself and my office carolyn who does an amazing job of putting this together and following up. Were committed to working with the puc and the community to facilitate such a working group, and i think something has basic as throwing out ideas and having a Technical Response to those idea it is because part of it i think people may not know whats been done or whats been considered and i am certainly not an expert in pipes but i can tell you that i share the frustration. I ive had issues with my sewer system in the last two months and as horrible a situation as can you have as a homeowner. When youre dealing with that is i cant explain how fully how horrible it is so i could only imagine what youve gone through. What i would like to do is to maybe create this working group, and then maybe begin a meeting working meeting with this group and maybe within a month or so, and i look forward to hearing from the community in terms how large you want it to be. We want it to be inclusive of everyone but at the same time we want to make sure that it is a working group that looks at all of the concrete options, and maybe what we can do is hold this meeting have this meeting be continued so that maybe in two, three months we can come back to see where we are with this because i dont want it to be we have this hearing and then we forget about it. I would like to come back to this in maybe three months and see where we are so that there is a concrete set up steps. What i envision to the extent, and again thats the problem with people who think they know what theyre talking about, not knowing is dangerous, but i personally feel some of the things that need to be explored besides this longterm solution of the tunnel that you talked about i do think there are properties that probably the city may need to consider taking over and even if having some sort of storage tank is not the solution that you want it to be, seems to me that what i am hearing something could actually help. Its better than what we have right now. I also want to explore the possibility of how this Grant Program can be more focused on the specific needs of each property and if there are things that we can do with each property maybe in the end that is thats a solution. I do have to say as a lawyer that it is challenging when youre talking about taxpayer money invested in individual property and i think we should do it but its legally you have to kind of be careful how you do that, but i think we have a lot of smart people here that can figure it out. And then i also think that if there are other things that that can be done that perhaps were not thinking about i mean i think we should think outside the box. I appreciate the sand bags but i agree with folks when the problem is internal to the house and its coming out of the sewer system i dont care how many sand bags you have its not going to fix it. Although i do appreciate that you have made them more available, so i think that if anyone can figure this out San Francisco can figure it out. If any part of San Francisco can figure it out certainly the good folks at 17th and folsom working with the puc can figure it out so i look forward to working with folks but now were going away and i dont want to keep supervisor mar because were going to lose quorum and i am happy to chat after the hearing so if we can continue this to the call of the chair, mr. Chairman. And seems like three months after the Community Process and do that without objection and continue to the call of the chair. Mr. Evans anymore items . No more items. Thank you very much. Thank you mr. Cruz and your staff. [gavel] p