Who are homeless, we dont have a place to put them, we dont have enough shelter beds, i would also like to understand better where the concentration of oversized vehicles tends to be i know like maybe along Golden Gate Park and ocean beach and there are more wooden areas where they tend to be i would like to understand more about where we find these vehicles and then the other thing i think of is that i know when people get towed if thats their home, like, how can we make sure they dont have to pay thousands of dollars, i mean, that they dont have, we dont want someone to lose their home, how do we deal with that differently, have a process for people to petition so they can get their homes back if indeed thats where theyre living. Its hard to say on this block yes or no thats in terms of the Bigger Picture policy, like, making people homeless or displacing people is not what this body wants to be doing, so how can we get there, and right now, were in a crisis around the housing situation more generally, so if we could expedite the efforts in this area and have some recommendations brought back to us so we can consider maybe based upon like where the concentration is and whatever else we know about who are parking in those vehicle, then i feel like i could make a decision about where these prohibitions should and shouldnt be, i would also be interested in knowing if theres a concern about crime whether there are any correlations with Police Reports and these vehicles because again that would also kind of help us figure out location issues, so i think we need to figure out a policy around locating these vehicles if were not assuming were not banning them out right. Thank you, director borden, i remember the first time this came to us, we did have a very detailed staff report that mr. Thornily put together, we did meet with bevin duffy, there was a lot of discussion around it perhaps it bears having a discussion like that again or maybe a one on one with staff again, it is challenging because what we have control over and what our purview is in this case, there is so much overlap with other city agencies that we dont have control and youre right, as a city, we do have a lot of challenges, the ones we have control over in this situation and what we have control over is in the scheme of things quite small. Board member, do i have a motion to approve . 10. 2e and 10. 2i . Can i have a followup if we could get, i would like the get more information as followup on this, i know last time this came up i know director reiskin, you know there was training of pcos and people who were enforcing these rules, and st vice chair mentioned, theres been work done on this difficult is issue, so i respect the process, i would like to hear an update especially on training, especially in mainbacker maiming sure the folks that this adversely affects, i mean, i do want to make sure our folks are trained as best as possible on this specific issue and i know that was an area we didnt have clarity on last time, so i would love to get more information in addition to the issues, any updates on the issues director borden raised. Thank you. If i may, madam chair i do feel that this is one of the more difficult decisions that we ever make is implementing these or following up on these requests when theyre made to us. There is it does feel like obviously decisions that were making have a much broader impact than just parking enforcement, and i think that it would be really helpful for not just us but for the community as well to hear about what systems are in place to help soften the impact of these enforcement or the enforcement of restricting commercial vehicles overnight. Every time this comes before us, we find ourselves in this awkward position and i think it would be great if we could have some kind of preparation from someone to be able to respond to this so that we can feel assured that the attention that this merits is actually being followed through, so that were not just, you know, enforcing these things and realizing the repercussions and not feel that theres anything happening as a result of it, so if its not just for us, its also for the public, people who might not really understand what programs are out there a lot of people dont know what bevin duffy is and what the programs may be so it would be great in the future when these things come to us, that we would be prepared to have someone speak to that as well, whats happening. Perhaps we can request a presentation from the appropriate office and agency. I wouldnt want to say a presentation, just because i dont know that it merits every time, but no, i aoep not saying every time, im saying as a followup, when we initially had this conversation, when we had the oversized vehicle ban, we could ask them for an update on how its going and the housing crisis ma not gotten better. The only thing i want to add, i think we need a strategy. The truth is that you ban oversized vehicles on the street and then they move to another street in which then those people come to us for a ban, so i do think we need to figure out a bigger strategy because otherwise what you keep doing is pushing people around and every new neighborhood who now is that location wants a ban, so i do feel like if we can if there is a ban, if there are plans to come up with a strategy around this or have safe areas, then i dont know where that is, but if that could come to us sooner and we could have some data about where concentrations are so we can figure it out. I feel that thats what we really need. Im not saying its not helpful to know the outreach. In general when people build whether its a homeless encampment or oversized vehicles, the minute you move people out of a location you dont change their circumstance, they just change locations. Ing thank you, thank you, directors, again, do i have a motion to approve these items e and i, do i have a second. Thank you, all in favor aye. Thank you, that pass, melody, thank you again for coming. Now were dwoing to move on to item 10. 3 approvers commuter pilot program. And i believe director rubke will ask to accuse on this. Im requesting to be recused from 10. 3. All in favor of recusing director rubke . Aye. And all in favor of approving item 10. 3p. Do we need to take Public Comment on this . There is no Public Comment on this. Do i have a motion to approve . Yes. Do i have a second . All in favor aye. And then the last item that has been severbacker severed is aaoem 10. 7 requested by a member of the public, barry toronto. Environmental review, and im very much harmed that this does not occur that you worried about the environment with helping cab drivers stop smoking but youre not willing to help drivers serve passengers. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Toronto. Directors, does anybody require more information on this or do i have a motion to approve . Motion to approve. Do i have a second . Second. All in favor aye. Aye. Thank you, madam chair, that concludes your consent cal abasing moving on to your regular calendar, item 11, approving contract number sfmta 201531, armed and unarmed Security Services with Cypress Security to provide Security Services in the amount of 38 million 314 thousand 2008 dollars and 17 cents for an initial term of the three years with an opinion to extend the term for up to three additional years. Chris carpet, security of investigation and is enforcement, were before you today to request your approval of an armed and unarmed Security Service with Cypress Security for an option to extend for an in addition three, the contract being approximately 38. 8 million, it includes a comprehensive package which i will briefly highlight, 30 thousand 832 hours of Armed Services annually for the protection of revenue sales, collection operation and is special event 159 thousand 497 hours of unarmed Security Services annually for the protection of 11 bus and lrb divisions with the significant imbacker increase in deployment at muni metro east in anticipation of the increased workload at that division. Staffing the 24 7 Security Operations center at the Transportation Management sent e maintaining the Video Surveillance program, patrolling the subway system for 16 hours daily for the safety of our patrons and saf, supporting board president reids antigraffiti initiative that documents graffiti and uploads it to the police department, six persons deployed throughout the Transit System to check there ada compliance and of course 24 7 security, with that, im happy to take your questions. Thank you for the detail behind that because this is it is a large dollar amount that were approving so its always good to hear the background on it. The fleet protection, thats at the bus yards and the bus barns patrolling them after hours when theyre closed which i understand in the past had been an area with we were getting buses broken into, graffiti, vandalism happening. Has th s right, madam chair, prior to 2008 when cypress took over, Security Services for the mta, the previous vendor was suffering graffiti and other incidents while the vehicles were on the yards, an average of once per week, were pleased to be able to say with the current vend do weve only had two major dinsbacker incidents on the yards for six years. Thats good to hear, any questions before we go to Public Comment . We can do Public Comment first, thats fine. Thank you, madam chair. Public comment . calling speaker names . Good afternoon, my name is peter evans, a district manager with [inaudible] international, i appeared before this Commission Board before in term of a contract that was approved for Andrews International, later on as we look through the pay registers that we receive from Cypress Security, we withdraw from that actual bid and that was the last time. And the city actually requested pay rej sters the Attorneys Office that we turned over our reasoning for backing out of the first bid, we rebid it again and we worked hard and we won the actual contract again and then when we went into negotiations with the actual contracts department, we were faced with an issue that was not put in an rfp, if you put in your rfp and you say that two positions are to be unbilled for the operations position and the account manager, it should be spelled out correctly. What the rfp had said in your markup, youre only to focus on the guards and then all of the other additional employees, other positions are to be included in the actual markup, so the issues that we have at Andrews International is when i look at as i receive the letter from mr. Patel he states those two positions should not have been billed, then why sit on cypress, as i look at their contract, the two of the positions are listed. The badging clerk and then also the ada, so i ask this board to consider the facts that are rfp was not written correctly and that we studied it, we put our information together. If you say to us that 6 positions that they have here are not supposed to be billed, this is on their rfp and then you turn around and let Cypress Security do this, its a big problem. I ask the board to really consider this and i ask the board to call for a special investigation. Thank you, thank you. Brad lower. Good afternoon, my names brad lower as peter stated, when we bid on the security program, we were selected as the top bidder and entered in negotiations in good faith. However, we have some concerns with how the negotiations were handled as well as the response we received dated march 16th in response to our letter of protest about the award of Security Services, i want to focus on the inconsistencies as peter brought up, one in the rfp, it was clearly stated on page [inaudible] services that these two positions, account manager and Operations Manager were considered part of the rfp process. These positions directly followed all of the listed Security Officer positions and there was nothing that stated either of these positions were not billed until we entered into negotiations and were basically told that we needed to remove the cost of these two positions which would have impacted our bid by about 150 thousand plus on an annual basis. In the response to our letter of protest, mr. Patel referenced a short sentence in section 3 which says not to include Security Officer pay rate ins overhead and markup, mr. Patel claims from that sentence we should have known that all other positions should have been an overhead and not billed directly. My question is why would the burden be on the vendor to figure out from a sentence that says whatnot to do to understand what to do when it could have been very clearly stated in the rfp where to bill, what to bill and whatnot to bill to include an overhead so as we respect our competitor, we respect cypress as a strong competitor in the field, we respect the folks thank you, mr. Lower. Kessler buti is the last speaker. Kefner, im here to thank the staff for all their hard work in these extensive deliberation, its been a long process for them and we also thank the sfmta for the opportunity to provide service again and we ao f been honored to do that for the last six years, i want to give recognition to the three local Business Enterprises that will be working with us, this contract requires 20 of the services to be provided by lbes because they are only doing the unarmed component of it it probably represents almost 35 of the actual labor hours to be provided here and weve made a decision that the community and the sfmta would best be served by dividing that very extensive amount of work amongst three highly qualified lbes and we were pleased we were selected for that process, with that, im here to answer any questions you may have and other than that, we thank you for the opportunity. Could you come back up, i believe mr. Heinicke had a question. My understanding is and klek me if im wrong i aoep not trying to be flippant about this, the first time this contract went out, andrews bid won the bid, and then our friends from cypress and others said theres no way they can complete this contract on the bid theyve committed, it doesnt make sense economically, i asked my friends from andrews who represented themselves very well here today is that the case and we were told, no we can make this contract work, we asked our friends from the union, do you have a position on this, they said, we respect both cypress and andrews, well work with whichever one, whoever has the contract they didnt take a position. We asked staff maybe you directly, i wont put you on the hot seat, i think it was, is this contract going to work, all the assurances were given and then it turned out they couldnt make the contract work on the numbers and they withdraw it. Now, our friend from cypress refrain framed the phrase i told you so today, so i wanted to make sure he was in a position to say i told you so is that the history that led and then cypress who was the incumbent bid on this and our feeling is that they have theyve provided good service, so i hear from the crowd that may not be true and i think its important we set the record straight. I did mean that as a question because i think we all want to understand the history that led us here between the two companies. I think thats accurate after the ifb was issued last summer, we andrews had been identified as you noted accurately as the winner of the ifb, we came before this boater, sought and obtained your approval to go forward with with the full board four minutes before we were schedule today go before the finance committee, andrews withdraw their bid and we extend ted cypress contract for this rfp. Regardless of that situation, an crews is a respected companies in the dountbacker country, its our responsibility to get the best tax dollar for our best folks and while they presented eloquently and politely, i do get the sense that theres an undercurrent that theyre saying they werent treated fairly and that cypress knew that these positions could be billed and they didnt know it. I assume its safe to say there was no how will you say sort of discomfort or displeasure with andrews and that from your view, they were treated fairly is this a material difference . No, i dont think that thats accurate either. I think that and one of the things if i may, it was a little puzzling to us when we initially received the rfp, cypress compiled with our instructions with a bid struck khu, andrews did not, we gave them an opportunity to make a correction, then when we entered into negotiations, we encountered this communication, we vacated our with andrews because we could not arrive at a deal that was consistent with what our available funding is. When we started negotiations with cypress, cypress seemed to understand the terms that were put into the rfp, so their proposals to us were consistent with what we were looking for specifically, that the two positions in question were not include as line items but were built into the overhead of the actual cost structure. Okay. I think i understand that. Director, do you have a question . No. Director, any other questions . Do i have a motion to approve . Yes. Do i have a second . Second. All in favor aye. Aye. Motion passes, thank you. Director item 12 discussion and vote pursuant to administrative code section 67. 10 as to whether to conduct a closed session. A motion to move into closed section. Directors, theyre coming back into open session, well wait a moment for sfgtv. Alright. Item 13 announcement of closed session, mta bedaubed of direct toser went and discussed the harrington case, the board settled the matter, directors, it would be appropriate to disclose or not disclose the information discussed. Do i have a motion . All in favor to not disclosed. That concludes the information before you today. Meeting adjourned. meeting is adjourned . Thanks. I example the first thing to point out is the first word is camp tlargz to be bugs and dirt and so long as you can get past that part in place is pretty awesome. Youre going to get to our cabin and why is it so sm